May 2, 2013

"Rapper Danny Brown received oral sex on stage during concert 'without his consent.'"

"Brown, 32, is on tour with fellow rapper Kitty Pryde. On Wednesday she penned an angry letter about the incident, expressing her outrage at what she considered sexual assault."

Here's Pryde's letter. Excerpt
I’m mad that a person thought it was okay to pull another person’s pants down during their performance in front of about 700 other people. I’m mad that a person thought it was a good idea to perform a sex act on another person without their consent. I’m mad that nobody made her leave. I’m mad that Danny had to actually wonder what he was supposed to do at that point. I’m mad that when I went home and said I had no respect for that girl, I was attacked for being a “slut-shamer” (after literally leading a girl to his hotel room at 3AM at her request) and, even more outrageously, for being jealous of the girl who sucked his dick. I’m mad that when two dudes pulled my pants down onstage, other people got mad too, but when it happened to Danny the initial reaction was like one big high-five. I’m mad that people are treating "The Thing" like it’s some legendary event. I’m mad that even though they know exactly who the girl is, nobody in the media will even talk to her. I’m mad that I get a bunch of emails a day asking me to talk about my best friend’s “misogyny” and “classless behavior”, from people who have heard only rumors and seen only one very blurry and inconclusive iPhone photo.
Pryde is an excellent writer, embedded in a fascinating social context, extracting some interesting ideas worth talking about. I'd never heard of Danny Brown, and I'm not familiar with the ambiance at rap concerts, but I'd like to understand why "Danny had to actually wonder what he was supposed to do." He was in front of an audience, playing a part, seeming to be someone hypersexual, perhaps, up for anything. Maybe it was hard to figure out whether to drop the facade and reveal his vulnerability. Pryde notes that an effort to stop the girl might have been interpreted as violence against her. There would be photos of him pushing her.
So what was Danny supposed to do, other than back away, which he did? And if he had figured out a way to gently push the girl off him immediately without looking like he was smacking her in the face, he’s faced with attacks on his masculinity by every douchebro in the building. Yo dude, you don’t want your dick sucked, bro? Are you gay? Haha you’re gay you don’t want girls to suck your dick haha gay dude bro man swag! And that’s a rapper’s literal nightmare.

52 comments:

CEO-MMP said...

Hey guess what!??!?! She had some dude say he (on her facebook page) that he wanted to rape and marry her! And she wrote a blog post about it!



It's an amazing thematic dovetail around here!

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/the-internet-is-scary

madAsHell said...

Blow job??

Otay!!

LarsPorsena said...

So had did his performance climax?

Tim said...

See: "First World Problem, Ghetto-Culture Edition."

EDH said...

Hey, what's brutha to do?

Rob said...

I guess the option of shouting, "Security!" never occurred to him. Nobody dast blame this man.

Methadras said...

This is the 21st century equivalent of Ozzy biting the head off a bat... or was it a pigeon... or a dove... or a reindeer... fuck, I can't remember anymore...

AprilApple said...

Bill Clinton is the gift that keeps on giving.

James said...

>.gay dude bro man swag<<

*scratches head*

furious_a said...

When I was a young rapper the women back then weren't much interested in oral sex...

...at least, that's what they told me.

James said...

I gotta ask...does it matter that the girl "perpetrator" is white?

Shanna said...

I guess the option of shouting, "Security!" never occurred to him.

That's what I was thinking. Isn't security supposed to keep people off the stage for any reason? For safety?

If not, then you should put in a protocol with your security people before hand that is very clear on what is allowed and not allowed, as far as audience participation goes.

Colonel Angus said...

So what was Danny supposed to do...

Lie back and think of Detroit.

YoungHegelian said...

"Uh-oh, fellatio!"

CEO-MMP said...

Besides, if he did shove her away he could always say "bitch bit my dick" or "naw man dat ho 2 ugly to be on my dick".

I'm not sure gay is the first thing that would be brought up.

Sam L. said...

Didn't know what he should do? I do: He should have asked the audience to vote on it!

HA said...

At least nobody got shot. With actual bullets, I mean.

Nomennovum said...

Was she at least blowing him to the beat? Or is she a typical white chick with no rhythm?

Lyssa said...

I’m mad that when I went home and said I had no respect for that girl, I was attacked for being a “slut-shamer” (after literally leading a girl to his hotel room at 3AM at her request) and, even more outrageously, for being jealous of the girl who sucked his dick.

I hate the passive voice. *Who* called her a jealous slut shamer?

Glad to see some pushback for the "slut shame" thing, though. Feminism gives us the stupidest retorts.

What does Danny think of all of this?

Richard Dolan said...

"Pryde is an excellent writer ..."

Oh? A matter of taste, I suppose.

As for the substance, it all sounds like the Theatre of the Ineffectual Rapper to me, especially since it's the sort of thing that his rapping seems to involve.

Mitchell the Bat said...

If he had his pants on backwards it never would have happened.

YoungHegelian said...

The things I miss by only going to classical concerts!

I'd love to see the following:

"Last night's performance by violinist Romain Lieber & the Chicago Philharmonic of the Beethoven Violin Concerto in D had to be stopped when 2 minutes into the final Rondo, Mr. Lieber, the soloist, was assaulted by a young lady from the audience who tried to perform fellatio on Mr. Lieber in mid-performance.

'I've had some strange things happen to me on stage, but this takes the cake!' said Mr. Lieber after the incident. 'Do you know how difficult it is to keep count in a difficult work like the Beethoven when someone's trying to perform oral sex on you? You just have no idea!'

The culprit, identified as Ms Courtney Pigget-Smith, said she was just overcome with emotion. "I love the Beethoven, and he's such a hunk. I just combined the two passions into one, that's all. He's so good with those fingers of his. Imagine what else he can do with them!"

Charges have not yet been filed.

jacksonjay said...


Kinda reminds me of those sluts who exit the vehicle without their underpants!

Danny who?

Kitty who?

Althouse to the rescue!

glenn said...

And they put Chuck Berry in jail?

Jay said...

Yo dude, you don’t want your dick sucked, bro? Are you gay? Haha you’re gay you don’t want girls to suck your dick haha gay dude bro man swag!

---Said Jason Collins' fiance, more than once...

Colonel Angus said...

Pryde is an excellent writer,..

Really? I thought it had a rather Dr. Seuss tone to it but opinions vary.

Tim said...

AprilApple said...

"Bill Clinton is the gift that keeps on giving."

If it had been Nina Burleigh and Bill Clinton, everyone would be applauding.

SteveR said...

Robert Plant had the decency to go back stage during the drum solo.

edutcher said...

Payback, she really is a bitch.

alan markus said...

One of my favorite scenes from Police Academy - Commissioner speaking at a press conference and there's someone lurking under the podium:

Police Academy - "Good Speech"

Methadras said...

CEO-MMP said...

Besides, if he did shove her away he could always say "bitch bit my dick" or "naw man dat ho 2 ugly to be on my dick".

I'm not sure gay is the first thing that would be brought up.


Well, not unless he played mediocre NBA basketball...

Rob said...

The most endearing thing about Pryde's letter is that the tidbit about Pryde leading a girl to Brown's door at 3 AM appears to be included in Pryde's defense! No slut-shamer, she. I'm convinced: Pryde's no prude.

Shawn L. said...

At first I thought this was faux outrage. But as I read, it was more about standing up where he was socially checkmated to act.

Okay, it was my second thought.

My first thought was about how this ties into Mutant Hysteria. (Either Kitty Pryde is a stage name, or her parents were comic geeks)

sydney said...

I saw a photograph of the act. He had his hand behind her head pulling her forward. He didn't seem all that put off by it.

Seeing Red said...

Poor boy, what could he do? Ummm, turn around?

William said...

Not the kind of moral dilemna I have ever had to struggle with.....I think the procreative purpose of sex has become largely obsolete and vestigal. Sex is strictly recreational. Sometimes an art form, and sometimes not. It's a leisure time activity somewhere between bowling and ballet.......The good news about this is that however decadent sex gets, it doesn't really matter. If ballet artists perform in bowling shoes, it subverts their art, but it doesn't subvert civilization..... Sex is now a pointless flywheel that traps and expels the energy of our civilization rather than a drive shaft that takes us to our destination.

gerry said...

"Pryde is an excellent writer, embedded in a fascinating social context"

You're kidding, right?

Astro said...

So, what happens at the next concert to top that?
Two girls?
Girl on girl?
Doggie style?

MayBee said...

I wonder if she wrote that herself.

carrie said...

This is where society is heading and I bet this type of public behavior will be normalized in just a few years. How sad.

carrie said...

This is where society is heading and I bet this type of public behavior will be normalized in just a few years. How sad.

CJinPA said...

And that’s a rapper’s literal nightmare.

No, "Here, play this instrument" is a rapper's nighmare.

Icepick said...

I’m mad that Danny had to actually wonder what he was supposed to do at that point.

Um, he didn't really have to wonder what to do at that point. Jeez, what a life: free blow jobs while you work!

Icepick said...

That's what I was thinking. Isn't security supposed to keep people off the stage for any reason? For safety?

Yeah, but once she's one him, then what?!

Youngblood said...

Pryde isn't a terrible writer, but the ideas she's "extracting" are bullshit.

First, let's get the facts straight: A young woman climbed up on stage, undid Brown's fly, took his cock out, and started blowing him. He continued to rap while holding her head and thrusting into her mouth for a portion of the song (without missing a beat). Apparently, he then thought better of the whole thing and pulled away. After the incident, he bragged to the media.

The incident and the fallout put Pryde in an uncomfortable position. She has had a very public crush on Brown for a while now, and she has hitched her star to his by touring with him. At the same time, she's a fairly bright college-educated feminist whose brand of "nerd rap" (Teehee! I rap about writing my boyfriend's name on my binder! Isn't that, like, so ironic and hip in a genre that isn't known for that sort of thing?) appeals to young women who are pretty much like her.

Until Brown started pumping his cock into a fan's mouth on stage and bragging about it, Pryde was able to pretend that his hyper-sexualized persona was, like her own, an ironic pose. It was how she could justify having a crush on and touring with this guy.

So now, she has to find a way to blame this, not on Brown, but on the girl who "raped" him as well as "douchebros" (the contemporary term for "jocks") in the audience that alternative geek-culture artists like Pryde loathe.

I think the fact that she invokes the "douchebros" in her twisted-logic defense of Brown is most telling. Irony-saturated college musicians like Pryde hate jocks because they don't "get" the music, they don't "get" the irony, and they don't "get" how clever and superior artists like Pryde and (in her view, Brown) are.

But if Brown's the kind of guy who raps constantly about fucking, lets a fan suck his cock on stage, and brags about it afterwards... Maybe she's the one who doesn't "get" it and the hated douchebros actually do.

Can't have that now, can we?

cubanbob said...

That guy is so ugly I'm amazed that he is even be able to masturbate never mind get blown in public. As for the woman, identify her and show her face, that way she suffers for the crime of terminal stupidity with aggravated ugliness.

Youngblood said...

Here's an eyewitness account from this site (with fairly work safe picture):

"Okay so this is how it all went down I was near the front row and all night Danny had been going up to the crowd and having random girls touch his dick through his pants. Then this girl in front of me starts flashing him and he goes up to her and grabs her tits. Then all of a sudden gets up close pulls his shirt up a little and she start blowing him. Then I’m behind her and I start getting pushed against her by the crowd shifting. It horrible and i hope you guys will be donating to my future therapy sessions but also i came back with a story. He rapped the entire time during too.

Uh huh. Yeah. Rape. That's the ticket.

Youngblood said...

And, finally, here's Brown in an interview describing how he got a handjob on stage (and bragging, just like he did after this incident, that he didn't even stop rapping). He also explains how, if a woman has no interest in fucking him, he kicks them to the curb.

Yeah, this poor guy was backed into a corner and raped by jocks and their expectations of hyper-sexualized hip hop artists.

Please.

gerry said...

And, above all, remember that the C in Rap is silent.

Bartender Cabbie said...

money shot?

MCD said...

I don't get out much. Probably just as well.

miracle said...

I admit it. This is what I want to know.


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