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That's a tough one to parse out. What is missing that would make it definitely seduction?
Women obviously shouldn't be teaching children. They're worse than Roman Catholic priests!
Sounds like Cartman and Ms. Choksondik
Looking at her photograph, I think her name should be Marlena "Wafer-Thin" Mints.
"They're worse than Roman Catholic priests!"That's a minority opinion - 5% maybe.
Abused not seduced
Your kid is more likely to be molested by a union teacher than a Catholic priest.Especially if it's a horny lame kid.
Seduction implies the desire is like a boulder on top of a hill that only needs a push to get going, then rolls on it's own. I'd say 8-10years old is right about where that boulder shows up.
Even beyond the mental issues required to molest children, who performs oral sex on someone who says there's something wrong with his penis?And by the way, the term seduced is used in reference to another person. So Althouse is testing whether we follow links as a follow up to her realization we don't watch video.
DFW Metroplex are ruling the weird school news this week (the viral "Teach Me" video rant and now this). Go team!
How about "stuffing her face?"
Btw If you drive into O'hare airport you will pass Bessie Coleman Drive. Bessie was a black aviatrix who was thrown from her stunt plane and fell two thousand feet to her death. Of course Butch O'Hare was a WWII hero who was shot down during the war. I wonder if jittery fliers would be more jittery knowing this.
Mints was arrested and charged with one count of aggravated sexual assault of a child and two counts of improper relationship with students.That was funny to me... I don't know what exactly. Palladians comment is giving me a hint.
The 13-year-old reportedly said he had a problem with his penis, to which she said she "needed to see it" and asked him to come into her class.Telling investigators he thought it would be alright as she was his sex-ed teacher, he exposed himself — which is when Mints allegedly performed oral sex.Problem solved.
bagoh20 said...Seduction implies the desire is like a boulder on top of a hill that only needs a push to get going, then rolls on it's own. I'd say 8-10years old is right about where that boulder shows up.More like 13, unless the kid eats oysters with every meal.
Mints breath had a pleasant aroma, and her technique was slightly nutty reminiscent of my breaststrokes from earlier that morning at the school Olympic swimming pool.
"Teacher Of The Year" from The One World crowd. Pointless sex to cow the masses.
Do schools normally hire "sex-ed" teachers?
You know what?Rape is not funny... is it?I get the feeling this is one of those things we are going to be called to task over.
Did every guy look at her picture, and THEN take a position?We men are so shallow.
No, seduced is not appropriate.
The idea of a cop at every school was branded as 'armed camp' tactics by 'gun control' advocates... and yet, the idea of sex education to minors is somehow... uplifting.sorry.
Does "seduce" in this context imply a communication between equals?
rcocean said...Did every guy look at her picture, and THEN take a position?We men are so shallow.5/10/13, 10:14 PMUm. I did.However, it does, at least somewhat, go both ways. If I were to flirt with a woman at work, there is a decent chance that she would take offense and report me to HR. But, if I looked like and had the smile of George Clooney, there is a better chance that she would swoon for me.I am not complaining. Not looking like George Clooney makes being faithful that much easier!
Did every guy look at her picture, and THEN take a position?There isn't much room to maneuver.
Did every guy look at her picture, and THEN take a position?I would choose top. I like to be able to breathe.
My first thought was, "Well, that's why we have eyelids."But, yes, abused not seduced and that is based 90% on her appearance.
Re: "But, yes, abused not seduced and that is based 90% on her appearance."But what about the other 20 percent?
But what about the other 20 percent?Depends on whether she's a math teacher.
I love the word "aviatrix". We need more words like that in English. To me, it just sings "sexy wings".
A 31 years old sex predator raped a 13 years old boy.
A 31 years old sex predator raped a 13 years old boy.Absolutely. He might think it's no big deal, so I hope someone can convince him that actually his life has been devastated and he wIlll need many years of intensive and expensive therapy before he can make even a partial recovery from this horror.
Did she really think the kid wouldn't brag? Not a very bright teacher in a public school. They set the bar lower and lower every day.
Judging by the photo.....the kid should be charged with indecent exposure.All kidding aside, something tells me that there may be several more "victims".
Maybe she was seduced, maybe this 13-year-old has figured out yet another way to get what most teenage boys would want.
Is Mrs. Mints related to Honey Boo Boo's mother?
"All kidding aside, something tells me that there may be several more "victims"."Who wants to volunteer to be next victim?
Seriously, folks, what the h*ll else did you expect? Just having the position elevates sexual activity to a normal part of the school day. Why do you think he texted her at first? Because he had a question of a sexual nature and had been told she was an authority figure who would answer any questions he had on the subjectOnce he was alone with her, 13 and loaded with hormones? Pretty much all of my 8th grade class (at least the male portion) would have jumped at the chance. Rape? It is to laugh.
My guess is that she is a Democrat who watches two and a half men.
wiki says this " deliberately enticing a person, to lead astray" so from that point of view yes. in my mind seduction always has an element of inequality to the relationship...sometimes a willingly forced sort of inequality... eg. that hussy seduced me...wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
If it was a male teacher and a female student, we wouldn't be making jokes.Seriously to a 13 year old 'tween' a 31 year old woman is an old hag.
Seduced? No. Perpetrated? Indeed.Jail time, and lots of it would be appropriate, that might giver her pause before her next crime.Trey
"Why do you think he texted her at first? "Why did he have her cell phone number?
The news video mentioned this happened at the school's "praying room." What the heck is that? She read it as "preying" anyway.
My goodness is she a hideous pig.By the way, when is any Democrat going to acknowledge that there is a nationwide, systemic problem of teachers sexually assaulting students in our nation's public schools?Because as a student you're about 10,000 times more likely to be sexually assaulted than shot, and Democrats are all for the children and stuff, right?
Blogger rcocean said... Did every guy look at her picture, and THEN take a position? We men are so shallow. 5/10/13, 10:14 PM__________________________________You caught me with my pants down...metaphorically speaking that is.
Have a son, relative, or friend who has his "manhood" examined by a fat, useless, public school teacher now facing criminal charges?Thank a union.
It is astonishing how many female teachers sexually abuse underage boys, it seems like every week there is another one caught. Since the consequences are so severe for the teacher (bye bye teaching career, hello felony, probable jail time, and lifetime status as a sexual offender), I guess most of the offenders are pretty obsessed with underage boys to take such a crazy risk.Maybe we should be testing teachers to try to screen out the perps.
Sexual Assault of a 13 YO boy; joke worthy or just to be dismissed. The War on Boys continues, with posters here explaining away a sexual assault by claiming he wanted it, that every boy just naturally wants a blowjob from a fat pig of a teacher twice their age. All boys are just hot little sluts and should be violated by an adult at the soonest opportunity. They like it.Nevermind that to boys of 13, 31 years and fat is an OLD FAT LADY.When it happens to your child, come tell us how great it was. Especially if you have a girl child. She's 13, he was 31? She wanted it. Girls like sex. There's no victim there.
"Especially if you have a girl child. She's 13, he was 31? She wanted it. Girls like sex. There's no victim there."I was having a conversation with an older relative, and basically that is how 'back in the day' they defended the crime. "She lead him on."How could a victim come forward, knowing that she would be blamed?
Absolutely. He might think it's no big deal, so I hope someone can convince him that actually his life has been devastated and he wIlll need many years of intensive and expensive therapy before he can make even a partial recovery from this horror.When did we decide that sex is the worst thing that can happen to a kid? Why is sex criminalized? Can we no longer distinguish between shouldn't have done that and teachers shouldn't have sex with kids so we'll fire her and something that deserves prison time? What is more difficult for this kid to overcome--sex with his teacher or the very public insistence that something awful happened to him?Ill-considered sex should not call for prison time. Nor should it land the teacher--and the boy--on national news. And don't get me started on the sex offender registry.
The reasons to take up homeschooling just keep rolling in.
When did we decide that sex is the worst thing that can happen to a kid? Why is sex criminalized?You have got to be fucking kidding me.They haven't criminalized sex; they have criminalized rape and sexual assault. If you don't think a 31 YO fat old lady sexually assaulting a 13 YO boy is a crime, well what a sad sick person you are.
Tell me Marie, are you one of those child fuckers that is trying to get the age of consent lowered to 13 so you can have sexual access to them? I can think of no other reason you hold the views you do.
watches two and a half menYeah.....that show went to hell after Charlie Sheen was fired.
If you don't think a 31 YO fat old lady sexually assaulting a 13 YO boy is a crime, well what a sad sick person you are.If it were a 31 y/o Victoria's Secret model, would it still be sexual assault? Or is it assault only if the kid is embarrassed to admit it later? It is possible that it was sexual assault. It is also possible that it was just a blowjob. I don't have any idea; I wasn't there. But the age and weight of the teacher don't determine what it is.
Can we no longer distinguish between shouldn't have done that and teachers shouldn't have sex with kids so we'll fire her and something that deserves prison time? Oh look, NAMBLA has shown up!Yeah, pedo's!!!
It is possible that it was sexual assault. It is also possible that it was just a blowjob.Um, you should look up "sexual assault" and get back to us.Are you really this fucking dumb or just having fun today?
Tell me Marie, are you one of those child fuckers that is trying to get the age of consent lowered to 13 so you can have sexual access to them? Did the current age of consent prevent this woman from having "sexual access" to this boy?
Marie wrote: "It is also possible that it was just a blowjob."No that is not possible, this was a minor that was assaulted. He was below the age of consent, this violates the laws we have that prohibit adults from having sex with minors. Consent is not an issue.Marie, are you really that ignorant of our laws?And most people, boys and girls, who are perpetrated in this manner live a life of sexual difficulty. The difficulties range from difficulty having consensual sex, what we call frigidity, to difficulties having indiscriminate sex that causes them repetitive problems at work and in relationships, we call this sexual addiction.But really, Marie, are these concepts so foreign and new to you?Trey
Adults should not be having sex with children nor did I ever say it should be acceptable. I assume that everyone is appalled by what happened. If we are worried about how the blowjob affects this boy, I am suggesting that the public uproar is more damaging to him than the act itself was.
It is also possible that it was just a blowjobThat is creepy.
Marie's blog:http://handbasketnotes.blogspot.com/Her husband was caught with child porn on his computer and is now in deep trouble with the law.
Trey, I am more aware of sexual addiction and its effects than anyone ought to be.I am also well aware of the laws.Thanks for asking.
That is creepy.Yeah, I should walk back my too-casual attitude there but I was thinking of how a kid might see it. This woman and her activities only came to light after one of the students bragged about what happened.
If it were a 31 y/o Victoria's Secret model, would it still be sexual assault?Not as far as I'm concerned. I'd welcome that, and decline similar servicing from that hideous cow of a teacher.You see, Marie, that involves consent, the absence of which is what defines sexual assault.
Marie,Your attitude is not just too casual, you are just flat out wrong, way wrong. You should study the negative psychological impacts of abusing children sexually before making any more comments on the sexual abuse of children.
One thing leads to another. That's what sex is wired to do.
She went for his "manhood" like a Great White Shark goes after a seal. I dunno--I don't think that this is the first time it happened with this woman.
Nevermind that to boys of 13, 31 years and fat is an OLD FAT LADY.Yes....but an OLD FAT LADY that gives blow jobs.
Marie wrote: "If we are worried about how the blowjob affects this boy, I am suggesting that the public uproar is more damaging to him than the act itself was."Oh, sorry I misunderstood. Please forgive me.The research on the matter shows that it is not the act alone that predicts how damaging perpetration is, but how the relationships between the parties mitigate or increase the trauma. The worst relational configuration is if the victim has a positive relationship with the perpetrator, significant others have a positive view of and relationship with the perp, and significant others have a negative view of/relationship with the victim.The best outcomes reverse those relationships. So the honest answer to your question is, well it depends! If the victim takes the negative reactions of the public as supportive, it helps. If he feels shame thinking that people know who he is and blame him or think he is a doofus, then it hurts.And again, sorry for misunderstanding where you were coming from. Trey
so NOT hot for teacher.
It is true that a minuscule minority of homosexual priests abused young adolescent boys. The fact that the numbers are so small is no excuse. One is too many.But many, many, many more are abused every year by unionized teachers. It happens so often that most times it doesn't even make the papers. It only is an issue because it is a woman. Otherwise it would be business as usual for public education.
Again...the Catholic Church has a problem with molestation.NOT public schools.Remember that always.
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