March 11, 2013

"It is a crime that officially does not exist, because it’s not on the books."

Said the Rev. Eugene Rivers of the Youth Violence Reduction Task Force.

30 comments:

William said...

I just hope that people keep this in perspective and don't lose sight of the fact that Forest Whittaker was wrongly accused of shoplifting.

Pogo said...

Paging Mr. Coates.

Bob_R said...

So in Boston it's not a crime to be an accessory to "beatings, robberies, kidnappings and torture?" Who knew?

edutcher said...

In Baaston???

How can this be?

All the black people there are elegant, degreed aristocrats.

Ann Althouse said...

You're seeing a racial theme, but what about the gender politics. Look at the quote at the end of that article, also from Rivers: "The black community must take the lead in defending their own daughters... And ultimately, at the end of the day, it’s the fathers, the shepherds, the leaders, who have to take responsibility for this and engage it.”

Pogo said...

It's tough to be a preacher man, when the Devil sells a much shinier product.

Beta Rube said...

If Republicans ran the inner cities of this country and the school districts that serve them this would actually be news.

50 years and trillions of dollars later, and the only answer on the left for the insanity and dysfunction is more money and more programs. The wretched living conditions of America's blighted urban areas have become a massive cash cow for the Democrats and their unionista pals. Don't expect change anytime soon.

Pogo said...

Notably, the pastor does not describe sin here, or that it's immoral, but only that it is a 'dangerous game', like mountain biking in the snow.

john said...
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john said...

I think Natalie Wood was going to be a setup girl. But she couldn't sing.

Mitchell the Bat said...

They have setup girls in Washington D.C., as well.

Just ask Marion Barry.

sydney said...

Is it a crime to seduce someone for money? Forcing someone to seduce another person would be, I think, but if you choose to accept money to seduce someone, where's the crime? It isn't really prostitution. It's not right, but it's not criminal.

Lyle said...

Sadly, there aren't enough fathers around to take responsibility.


Erich said...

When I saw the blog post title, I would have sworn it was a reference to Diane Feinstein's recent comment that it is legal to hunt humans using large capacity magazines.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypHaYAv_EEw

edutcher said...

Ann Althouse said...

You're seeing a racial theme, but what about the gender politics.

OK, they're playing the femme fatale, right out of a James Bond movie.

What they forget is that characters like Fiona Volpi and Fatima Blush ended up as roadkill. Tiffany Case was lucky.

The real issue, as Ann points out, is, "And ultimately, at the end of the day, it’s the fathers ... who have to take responsibility for this and engage it.", but where are the fathers?

LarsPorsena said...

"..
The real issue, as Ann points out, is, "And ultimately, at the end of the day, it’s the fathers ... who have to take responsibility for this and engage it.", but where are the fathers?"

Why the fathers? Why not the mothers?

Crunchy Frog said...

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Jeff Teal said...

First criminal conspiracy with all manner of predicate crimes.Second with 70 0/0 unwed mommies where do you think the daddies are?

prairie wind said...

Sadly, there aren't enough fathers around to take responsibility.

Funny. You put most of the neighborhood guys in prison for non-violent crimes, they come out with "felon" on their foreheads leaving them with little chance to get a decent job, you make it illegal for them to live with their families if the families are in federal housing which they might be since most of the family income disappeared when Dad went to prison...and yeah, the dads disappear back into a life of crime after prison gave them a graduate degree in crime.

And the war on drugs grinds on, with no noticeable effect on the supply of illegal drugs or on the addiction rate.

Marshal said...

sydney said...
Is it a crime to seduce someone for money? Forcing someone to seduce another person would be, I think, but if you choose to accept money to seduce someone, where's the crime? It isn't really prostitution. It's not right, but it's not criminal.


Those in question are committing a crime by executing an overt act in furtherance of a criminal conspiracy - presuming they understand their information is being used to plan attacks. There seems to be some dispute near the end of the article about whether this is always the case, but it clearly is the case sometimes.

The disconnect is describing their involvement in violent crime and then blaming it on others, as if what they're doing is a prank and only men are accountable for their actions.

n.n said...
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Rob said...

Girls have a right to participate in thug life too. Lean in.

n.n said...

Lyle:

That's because our dysfunctional society has deemed it profitable to marginalize and eviscerate men in all their traditional roles, including fatherhood.

Men have in turn met the challenge and are becoming the stereotype manufactured to discredit them as fathers, guardians, and human beings.

This too is a thread in the dysfunctional convergence.

The salient point, however, is that targeting is selective. This is accomplished through elevating some men (or women), while destroying others.

Cedarford said...

sydney said...
Is it a crime to seduce someone for money? Forcing someone to seduce another person would be, I think, but if you choose to accept money to seduce someone, where's the crime? It isn't really prostitution.

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Sure it's prostitution. You are paying the young black 'ho not to give her ass up to you, but to someone else and for info on the "seduction".
Preacher's right too, on the danger. The black 'ho is a paid snitch and if found out - in real danger of a going away gang rape present over several days....or turned over to the gangs own "female auxiliary" members to fuck up or cap ...(the in-house 'hos that are often as violent and barbaric as the male gang members). Or killed by the "had" gang member to ensure she ends up unmissed in several garbage bags in a landfill or body tossed in a remote location...

Gangs need to defend themselves from the threat of infiltrating snitches paid by cops or rival gangs. With all vigor.
It's Survival.


wyo sis said...

Prostitution. Extortion. Murder. All crimes on the books.

Bruce Hayden said...

Why the fathers? Why not the mothers?

Because the mothers are as innocent as pure driven snow. Never mind that they (most likely intentionally) had those kids out of wedlock, and thus raised them in fatherless families. They are women, and so cannot have any culpability.

Funny. You put most of the neighborhood guys in prison for non-violent crimes, they come out with "felon" on their foreheads leaving them with little chance to get a decent job, you make it illegal for them to live with their families if the families are in federal housing which they might be since most of the family income disappeared when Dad went to prison...and yeah, the dads disappear back into a life of crime after prison gave them a graduate degree in crime.

They commit plenty of violent crimes too - one thing that this gun grab by the Dems has pointed out is how lob sided the gun violence statistics are from a racial point of view. Blacks are far more likely to murder, and be murder victims, than whites, and if you exclude a handful of inner cities around this country, our overall murder rates don't look all that bad, in comparsion to, say, Europe. And, of course, it isn't just murder, but most violent crime, as well as drug related crimes, and, esp. non-pot drug offenses. Sure, selling heroin on the street may be somewhat victimless, but do you really want the guys doing that out of prison?

There is a lot of whining about the number of blacks in prison. But, much of that is because poor inner city black males tend to be much less law abiding than middle class whites. And, of course, the big reaosn for the problem was the attempt to legitimize and fund single motherhood through a massively failed attempt at progressive social engineering. Yes, there are a lot of poor black males in prison, but the answer is not to let them out, but rather, to end this failed attempt at social engineering.

prairie wind said...

They commit plenty of violent crimes too - one thing that this gun grab by the Dems has pointed out is how lob sided the gun violence statistics are from a racial point of view.

True. I think that comes of a gang culture and the gang culture comes of a illegal drug industry that is the best chance to earn a living (I changed that from "decent money") for felons.

Yes, there are a lot of poor black males in prison, but the answer is not to let them out...

Do you think all those people in prison really deserve to be there? Is incarceration the best way to deal with non-violent crimes? Do you think it is better for our nation to have all those people in prison and come out hopeless?

My answers are No, No, and No. That comes of a direct exposure to the inner workings of our justice system. It looks different from inside the meatgrinder.

John said...

Doesn't anyone else get bothered by this blather?

“It is a crime that officially does not exist, because it’s not on the books,”

How can anything be a "crime" if there is no law against it? (not on the books)

It is certainly wrong and reprehensible behavior. As some have pointed out there may be laws against it.

But for anyone to say something can be a "crime" without being against the law is disgusting to me. It eats at the very heart of our legal system and the concept of law.

John Henry

FleetUSA said...

Member of a gang, aiding and abetting in the commission of a crime, prostitution, etc.

But when they get arrested they could also be targets of other gang molls inside.

Nichevo said...

Why, Cedarford, from the way you talk, anyone would think you actually *knew* a black person.