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I hope you're rooting at your son's home. That place looks like it may do good takeout, but it's no place to sit and relax for a couple of hours.
Watching somewhere else, but in public. Good view of a big screen. Others here are rooting for the Giants, though.
Meh, after the 49ers miracle victory yesterday I can't get too excited about this.
Suggestion: Go home up US281, thence to I44 and up that way. Slower, but some nice country to look at, and I'll wave as you go by if I spot you.Regards,Ric
How the fuck is that not a goddamn fumble?
After the game gotta go to Taylor Texas for some a' that Louie Mueller BBQ. The brisket is to die for. Just up the road a piece from Austin.
@curious The rule must be that when that happens its not a fumble. The officials saw what we saw, so you need to adjust your conception of the rule. = lawprofs style analysis.
How the fuck is that not a goddamn fumble?The play was over the instant his knee touched. Then he lost the ball.Obvious 'no fumble' call.
I'm rooting for the Pack now. Dammit.
I'm rooting for the Pack, simply because their winning is in the order of things. It's the correct thing to happen. They are the better team, even though at this moment in time the Giants may have the more interesting story. The pack is better and deserve to win, well, it they play like it.(Though they have had some terrible setbacks of late.)
Hi, Beth. We were rooting for the Saints yesterday.
"Ann Althouse said...@curious The rule must be that when that happens its not a fumble. The officials saw what we saw, so you need to adjust your conception of the rule. = lawprofs style analysis." Nope. Not as issue of rules. Issue of judgement."campy said...How the fuck is that not a goddamn fumble?The play was over the instant his knee touched. Then he lost the ball.Obvious 'no fumble' call."Ball was clearly out before the knee touched. Both announcers, and the former Exec for NFL officials called it a fumble. Outside of Packer fans...except those that have self honesty...everyone else it America, excpet that ref, knew it was a fumble.
Giants playing well. Packers not so much.It's not a fumble unless the refs call it a fumble (fortunately for the Packers.)
I hope the Packers win, but they don't seem to be peaking at the right moment this year. We'll see.
As a fully satiated Pats fan, I say... kinda looked like a fumble to me.
Giants are peaking this week. Packers peaked in... November. Bummer. SF vs NY, Balt vs NE. Who Cares.wv: extude. The Pack are extuding the ball
Awful.I guess this year, it's all about the D.Similar to the San Fran game.
"Hi, Beth. We were rooting for the Saints yesterday."Ha ha. More the reason for me root for the Giants. I want my Niners to play the NFC Championship game at the 'Stick.We have a defense that breaks players.
"I guess this year, it's all about the D.Similar to the San Fran game."Indeed so. Sleeping on the 'Niners = a trip home, out of the playoffs.
Yeah, but I'm not quite sure you can say NO slept on the niners. If you watch Saints games, they always start slow. And have turnovers. San Francisco - where the west coast plays like the east coast. New England - now there's a west coast offense.
And I'm still so p.o'ed about the Saints losing that if NY wins (what is HAPPENING in our universe??), then I hope they schlack the Niners.Sorry.
Thanks, Ann. There's a nice overlap in Saints-Packer fandom, at least among my circle. It makes for some awkward football parties a couple of times a year, but all in good fun. And it means I get brats and summer sausage and good beer at least once a season. In fact, two of the folks at our house last night are from Madison.
I've done all the parsing of that game that I can stand to do, but I'll say this: if our D coach heads to St. Louis, as rumored, I won't be too upset.
You can tell by their hats they all root for the same team at the 12 cone café.
So Brees and Rogers can go fishing together, eh.10 down with 8 to go.yuck.Nice onside kick call, Packers. (Remember that?)
Grant fumbles.Game over.
Beth, he was really good when he was in Washington. Something happened, maybe he rested on his laurels.But this game right here, she's over.Too bad for the Pack. Really too bad. I wonder what else is on.
Giants coming to the 'Stick; 'Niners going to host the NFC Championship Game.We have unfinished business with the Giants from the 1990 NFC Championship Game. The bill will be collected.
HT said..."And I'm still so p.o'ed about the Saints losing that if NY wins (what is HAPPENING in our universe??), then I hope they schlack the Niners."Not gonna happen.Our defense breaks players.
Damn I knew the Giants were hot but I hate NY and hate when they win. I am now rooting for a Harbaugh vs. Harbaugh Super Bowl.
PS: It's shellack. Like the Giants are doing to the Packers.
49ers hosting the Giants for the NFC title, is this the 1980s????
Tim:I loved it when they knocked out the NO running back early in the game.
"I am now rooting for a Harbaugh vs. Harbaugh Super Bowl."Yes, that would be epic. And, given that Alex Smith very likely won't have the chance to beat Michael Vick, Matthew Stafford, Eli Manning, Roethlisberger, Brees, Rogers and Brady this year, it might was well be Har-bowl II, with the 'Niners winning the rematch.Can't wait. 'Niners winning again; all we need is Obama to be defeated, and much of the order of the universe will have been restored.We'll all be happier for it.
Cheesehead suicide watch.
Only the refs are keeping GB in this game.
How does a cheesehead commit suicide?
Oh well, at least WI has Ms. America.It was a good year for the Packers.Losing the offensive coordinator this week has hurt more than was probably talked about.
Jay - what happened to the offensive coordinator? Take a college head coach job?
15-1. One and done. Suck it Packers.
Joe Namath goes 4 for 4 in his playoff predictions! See here.Go Niners!!!
Oh, it's another session of inscrutable conversation about multi-millionaires in tight pants chasing after a ball. Me? I tend to chase balls in pairs, preferably when they're inside the tight pants.
AJ, his son drowned.
"AJ Lynch said...Jay - what happened to the offensive coordinator? Take a college head coach job?"His son drown. But he was at the game. And his son was found dead only 5 days ago so with the Packers bye they had plenty of time to prep. The Packers simply got their ass handed to them. Their defense sucks.
Sports and partisan politics both interest me not at all, and for the same reasons.Teams never made any sense to me.
"His son drown. But he was at the game. And his son was found dead only 5 days ago..."A good encapsulation of what's loathsome about professional sports.Drowned sons, coaches molesting little boys- none of it gets in the way of chasing the little ball around!
It has been reported (somewhere)the Packers are favored to win next years Super Bowl.
May even go undefeated.
I commisserate with Packer fans. As a lifelong 49er fan I've been through this 1-and-done thing where the 49ers were 14-2, 13-3 and go beat BADly at home in the div. playoff. The one that comes to mind the most is the 1987 team. They were 13-2 that year and the Vikings beat the 49ers by something close to today's blowout and making Steve Young crawl at one point. But from that humiliation followed back to back Super Bowl victories in '88 and '89. You never know how things will go in pro sports. Today humiliation, tomorrow crowing glory.
Palladian - the NFL is a $10 billion/year industry. It's hardly just a game. Does Apple shut down the iPhone plant when an employee's son dies?
Discount double choke.
"As a lifelong 49er fan I've been through this 1-and-done thing where the 49ers were 14-2, 13-3 and go beat BADly at home in the div. playoff."Yep. I remember that Viking game, and Anthony Carter shredding the secondary. Awful.But that was then.This year's 'Niners aren't going to let that happen.It was an AMAZING day at the 'Stick yesterday - sea of red, standing throughout the game - and Smith earns redemption.So, for the NFC Championship? The 'Niners beat a better team in the Saints yesterday. Should be great fun.Who's got it better than us?Noooo-body!
One of the great survival characteristics of the dog is that most dogs can transfer their intense allegiance from one human to another if the first human disappears.Go Patriots!!!
It is difficult to catch a pass if you have one hand clutching your throat ... a malady prevalent among the Packer receivers today.
Anti-Recalls gods are smiling
Lambeau Leap off the ledge.
Bwahahahahahahahaha suckaz!!! Been trying to get on all eve to brag on my once and future World Champeen Noo Yawk Jints© just in case Troop was unavailable, but I see I must content myself with postbrag. Go Giants Go! Also I see the Packis seem to think that games are won with late hits and junk play. As Olivier said to Hoffman, why don't you try acting (like football players, or like men), it's much easier.As for how lawprofs think, Althouse, if true, they should be beaten with rods (ideally three-foot rebar) till they stop thinking that way. Just sayin'.
I will struggle mightily if it's Harbaugh vs. Harbaugh. Can't stand either. May have to root for Ol' Red Face .... that would be the Basset hound coaching the Giants.
That is a real tragedy what happened to the coach's son. It had to affect the Packers a little even if he coached today. I remember my brother coached his Pop Warner team the morning after our mother died. Soldiering on after personal stuff like that takes a lot of guts. I couldn't do it.
15-1. One and done. Suck it Packers.Good thing they didn't come in 16-0. Imagine all that pressure!
Only thing worse than a sore loser is a sore winnner.Packers did not play well - much of it the Giants and much was poor execution.Some improvement on defense and better hands on the offense (yes, I'm looking at you Jermichael) will put us back in the playoffs next year.
The four remaining teams are from Leftist Enclaves.
At least you Wisc[aaa]nsiners should be happy to know that there was a bar in Bellevue WA that was in your corner.Nothing personal, and only because of my contrarian-hipsterness, but I was the only one for the Giants! Snatch.
"Some improvement on defense"Considering that your defense sucked all year long, that seems like an understatement.P.S.Palladian,Football is a manly pursuit. It's like golf. Hunting and gathering balls is as close as most of us get to the real thing nowadays.Damn you grocery store!
The Niners game yesterday was an instant classic. When Smith ran in the TD with 2:11 left I was screaming at him to fall down in bounds at the one. Then they could've done a few meaningless snaps and Akers could've kicked the winning FG as time ran out. Instead they made it much more interesting, to say the least.
AJ Lynch said..."Tim: I loved it when they knocked out the NO running back early in the game."Indeed so. Like I said, my team's defense breaks players.Breaks them.This isn't Bill Walsh's 49ERs team - except for the well-coached, play-60, come-from behind with epic, game-winning, clutch TD passes in the waning seconds part...lol!Who's got it better than us?Nooo-body!'Niner nation sounds off.
Speaking of 3:16, Tebow must've been 3 for 16 in passing at some point yesterday. You could buy 3 beers for $16 at the Patriots game. I think the Broncos stopped the Patriots on 3 out of 16 possessions. Tom Brady probably threw for 316 more yards than Tebow yesterday.
"When Smith ran in the TD with 2:11 left I was screaming at him to fall down in bounds at the one."I get it, but that was never gonna happen.Instant classic; instant redemption.Alex Smith made himself this year, and yesterday especially, a 'Niner quarterback. That play, and his game-winning, clutch throw from the 14 with nine seconds left to VD will never be forgotten by the Faithful. Epic day - ranks up there with The Catch against the Cowboys 30 years ago, Catch II fifteen years ago (damn near the same spot, too) against the Packers, and the Garcia-led comeback against the Giants in the '02 wild-card game.It's shaping up as '81 did. Unbelievable.PS: Saints fans at the 'Stick were very classy, start to finish. Probably the classiest fans of visiting teams that I can recall, ever. Steelers fans are really good too. Raiders fans are the worst. Cowboys, Giants, Eagles and Packers fans are pretty damned obnoxious. They all think their teams perfected football. Insufferable.PPS: My team's defense breaks players. Just breaks them. Just so you know.
PB & J - Our defense sucked but that proves the point that a little improvement will make us dangerous again next year.it's actually the same defense that helped us win the superbowl last year and had the most INT's this year and was the difference when we beat NewYork a few weeks ago (pick 6 for Clay Matthews).I think they need 2 things (I'm just a fan andhave no professional training ):1) Consistent pass rush 2) Better fundamental tackling - we gave up lots of big plays this year because of this. Example - Hakeem Nicks is a beast. You can't tackle him with a one shoulder.
The season is over. Time to move on to other things.As for the Packers...the smart thing to do would be to fire defensive coordinator Dom Capers.And re-sign Donald Driver.
Devastated by the Packers loss, Jon Huntsman just quit the GOP Presidential Race and will endorse Mitt Romney.
WTF hit me?Was I out for long?Still in shock.Well, and this doesn't amount to consolation, but SF looked mighty yesterday and New England looked fine too, so maybe this was destined to happen sooner or a little later. I don't care anymore, except to say that any team with a murderous thug like Ray Lewis should not proceed into the Superbowl. I think the Patriots will take care of that business. That is all.
ALH, you're right; the Packers aren't far off. Defensively they've got issues, but Starks or Grant don't scare anyone running the ball either. I think opposing teams focused on stopping the pass the second half of the year. Rogers was their most effective runner.And Haz, yes, they'll probably fire the def. coordinator as that's the easy fall guy, but what about the personnel? Pack fans made much hay about how great Ted Thompson has done, but clearly his success has been on one side of the ball. What says he about his defensive drafts and acquisitions?
McCarthy's timeout at the end of the first half that let the Giants take a ten point lead to the locker room was a turning point. And suddenly Driver was the only end that could catch, what's up with that? The week of rest? The defense was surprisingly capable, the special teams, apart from the failed onside kicks, was adequate, and the officiating favored the home team... I didn't expect the Pack to go all the way, but I didn't anticipate them ending the season in a burst of dropped passes and fumbles...
I'm a Broncos fan Ah feeelll yur pain(But must admit, have never liked the Packers...except for when they lost to the Broncos in the Super Bowl.)
Phil said- "But must admit, have never liked the Packers...except for when they lost to the Broncos in the Super Bowl"And I'm pretty much the opposite - always liked the Broncos but HATED them for a two year period after they beat us in the SB. I'm over it now. Kind of. Except I still see Elway spinning thru the air for a first down when I close my eyes at night.
I still see Elway spinning thru the air for a first down when I close my eyes at night.Oh yeah! That was a most excellent day of gratification for Broncos fans
You missed your chance for Dublin Dr. Pepper. But go to Torchy's anyway.
I have to admit, I was severely rooting against the Packers in that 1997 Super Bowl. I never cared for Elway, but I was rooting for him hard.
"PS: Saints fans at the 'Stick were very classy, start to finish. Probably the classiest fans of visiting teams that I can recall, ever."Tim, that's nice to hear.
pbAndjFellowRepublican said... "Palladian,Football is a manly pursuit. It's like golf. Hunting and gathering balls is as close as most of us get to the real thing nowadays"As someone who has actually hunted, and butchered (well, assisted with butchering) meat, I recommend it over watching football on T.V. It engages the senses, lets you experience the quiet and sublimity of Nature, gets you some fresh air, and possibly nets you some delicious grouse in the process.I will say two good things about football: it seems to spur genial conversation here among people who are usually arguing about even stupider things like politics, and some of those round, muscular asses really do look good in the tight stretch pants.
I am always delighted whenever I meet people from New Orleans as I travel. They are among the most sociable people on earth, together with the Spaniards and a couple of other groups of Southerners.Great people.
"You missed your chance for Dublin Dr. Pepper."We all missed our chance, damn it. The corporate goons at Snapple killed them. May they rot in Hell.
My 9 y/o son was crushed by the result. He never became interested in football until the playoffs last year, so he had almost no experience with the Packers losing. Contrasts remarkably with my own experience at that age.
Patrick - I can empathize. When I was 13 I was absolutely devastated when the 49ers lost to Giants 15-13 in the 1990 NFC title game. I was disconsolate for months.
I live in Austin too (but I am working in Korea) You are obviously in south or central Austin, but there are some good places up in the north part of town too. The Noble Pig restaurant (sandwiches) cure all their meat and you can get a pastrami duck sandwich that is great. Ditto on pork ones too.Hope you get to Lockhart south of town for some REAL barbeque from Kruze Market or Smittys
Too many dropped passes and 3 turnovers - not the bakery type - and the Pack will be joining you at the cafe', unfortunately.wv - flogi
100% spot on. But not exactly what they were thinking.
"When I was 13 I was absolutely devastated when the 49ers lost to Giants 15-13 in the 1990 NFC title game. I was disconsolate for months."I still resent Bill Parcells, Leonard Marshall and Matt Bahr, although they played as well as they could. It's time to pay the bill.
A grim weekend for me, I was backing the Tebows, Texans over the thuggish Ravens, and the Pack. I lived many years in Alaska, where the Packers are beloved for playing in the snow and ice. I watched the games with my NY-loving buddy, the bet was that after loss, I had to throw my cheesehead to the floor, and kick it through the house....
the Pack got dismantled. Their 2 touchdowns were solely due to bad calls by the refs.
ummm, Tim, I think that bill got paid in full in 2003:http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recaps/20030105/nygsfo.html
Might want to check out San Marcos, New Braunfels, and San Antonio while you are in central Texas. San Marcos is the home of Texas State U which has the beautiful spring fed San Marcos river running through campus. Nice U to teach at in semi retirement. When it gets hot in summer, time to tourist elsewhere.New Braunfels has the Guadalupe River running through it. Great river for canoeing. There is a great park, iirc Landau park, that has the Comal river originating in a big spring. Gruene has Grist Mill (a converted grist mill), a cool place to eat with lots of outdoor decks. Next to that is an old time Texas dance hall that is a lot of fun. There are also lots of shops with interesting stuff that Althouse might enjoy.San Antonio has the river walk, which women typically enjoy quite a bit. Pretty with lots of shopping and places to eat. Alamo is there also, of course. There are some other old well preserved Spanish missions that are awesome. San Antonio also has a great, big park with a river running through it that is great to walk in.
Ann, consider this your engraved invitation to jump aboard the Patriots bandwagon. All are welcome.
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