September 22, 2011

Althouse posits the Anti-Scott Walker religion.

At last night's a Federalist Society event at the University of Wisconsin Law School. I'm talking about Establishment Clause law with Prof. Patrick Garry of the University of South Dakota School of Law:

56 comments:

Meade said...

I don't want to form a religion over it, but I would like to build a monument to Scott Walker.

Meade said...

Just down the square from Heg.

X said...

when we see the white smoke coming from Noodle's chimney, we'll know garage has been elected pope.

Brennan said...

A religion it is.

Tommorrow I will practice the ritual of walking into a union shop to tell them why I am taking my business to a non-union shop.

My penance will be the pace at which I have to run off their property.

Amen.

ndspinelli said...

That's interesting body language professor.

Triangle Man said...

@Brennan

Just as long as you are aware that the running will do nothing to influence your body weight.

David said...

So is the whole discussion available?

Was it a debate or a discussion?

Scott M said...

we'll know garage has been elected pope

That's not what they'll call it or how they'll spell it. It will rhyme with stoop.

garage mahal said...

I don't hear any elected Republicans defending Walker in the state, that can't be a good sign for Walker. Felony violations of state campaign finance laws and money laundering from donors is pretty hard to defend. Wonder what else is coming down the pike? I keep hearing something Blago-riffic. But I don't want to get ahead of myself, we'll just have to wait and see!

Quayle said...

I don't want to get ahead of myself, we'll just have to wait and see!

Fortunately, it is the voting public that are behind Walker and against public sector unions.

Or are the lefties preparing millions of ethics and criminal charges against the citizens that vote?

Is that what you're waiting to see?

Meade said...

Please oh please, garage, by all means, keep getting ahead of yourself.

AllenS said...

Felony violations of state campaign finance laws and money laundering from donors is pretty hard to defend.

Where did you come up with that shit?

Fred4Pres said...

I am not sure I want to pray to Scott Walker, but am willing to send him my prayers that someone else looks out for him.

But Ann's suggestion of a anti Scott Walker religion raises an issue...

Ann, if you never read it, you really should read American Gods. Wisconsin is in it a lot, and it is an entertaining book.

garage mahal said...

Where did you come up with that shit?

I didn't come up with it. You just need to leave this blog to hear about it.

One Walker campaign contributor, William Gardner, president and chief executive officer of Wisconsin & Southern Railroad, has already pled guilty to felony violations of Wisconsin campaign law in April of 2011. Gardner tried to convince prosecutors that his $60,000 in illegal contributions, which he funneled through staff and girlfriends, was an innocent mistake, except he had done the same thing the previous year. It is unclear if the lastest probe is related to Gardner case.

Link

ErnieG said...

The ScottWalkerists will have to get in line behind the Gaeaists and the Warmenistas if they want to be recognized as a religion.

Scott M said...

and it is an entertaining book

While I generally love Neil G., American Gods only really got going on the slopes of the Tennessee mountains. Long, cold slog up until then.

EDH said...

I loved Althouse's demeanor delivering her "what if" about the different religions that would crop up.

The way she spoke out the side of her mouth with sarcasm, eventually almost mumbling to herself, reminded me of the stereotypical skeptical TV housewife from down the street or over the fence who won't buy into the latest fad product.

Fred4Pres said...

Scott M, I thought of it as a collection of short stories with a unifying theme.

Scott M said...

I thought of it as a collection of short stories with a unifying theme.

It's been a while, but wasn't it a single narrative about one of Odin's sons learning who he was with a backdrop of old gods vs new gods?

Curious George said...

I love seeing garage grasping at straws as his core life beliefs are swirling in the bowl.

The "money laundering" he decribes of course is not "money laundering" at all. And it has nothing to do with Walker. Although his link tries to tie it to the existing investigations, there is none. ZERO. It also doesn't tell you these facts:

It was done by a campaign donor, and Walker's campaign returned the money.

Probation is an appropriate sentence in this criminal case because Gardner cooperated fully with investigators and accepted responsibility for his wrongful actions, Landgraf said.

There was "no indication of any pay for play" offer of access to Walker and no evidence that Walker campaign staff members were complicit in the illegal contribution scheme, Landgraf said.

Landgarf is a Democratic Milwaukee County Assistant District Attorney.

Yawn.

traditionalguy said...

When a George Kaiser delivers $500,000 in campaign donations to Barack Obama and gets his $500,000,000 never to be repaid "loan" in return that is a crime.

But the practice of bundling together a large number of donors giving the capped donation amount from themselves and their wives is such a long settled practice that only a Democrat out for blood would try busting someone for it.

Those bundles of donation checks from many individuals are not given for nothing, but are always given for under the table quid pro quos.

Robert said...

Slouching is unseemly. Do your listeners the courtesy of presenting yourself as if you care to be there.

Fred4Pres said...

Scott M. there is supposedly a movie in the works for American Gods. I hope they can pull it off.

Supposedly there is a movie in the works for The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. I am sure someone could errect some monument for Heinlienism.

Henry said...

The anti-monument religion will need a space to put its fulcrums and levers with which to topple other monuments.

Not so far-fetched. Look up iconoclasm.

Scott M said...

I am sure someone could errect some monument for Heinlienism.

The first attempt to bring RH to the big screen was a gawdawful abortion.

garage mahal said...

Although his link tries to tie it to the existing investigations, there is none. ZERO. It also doesn't tell you these facts:

Gardner's felony conviction was part of the John Doe investigation, Einstein.

Joe said...

(The Uncredentialed, Crypto Jew)
The first attempt to bring RH to the big screen was a gawdawful abortion

You forget the SHOWER SCENE…..

madAsHell said...

Ya' know....if this law prof gig doesn't work out...you might consider stand-up comedy. You might have the timing.

Trooper York said...

Ndspinelli has it right. That is some body language right there.

I think that is what you call your snotty bored syndrome. Just sayn'

Scott M said...

You forget the SHOWER SCENE

You're completely correct. I had the entire experience removed with electroshock therapy.

Richard Dolan said...

"the anti-Scott Walker religion."

A fine example of language taking a holiday. Like the usage of most words, 'religion' can get a little vague when used at the periphery of its normal context. Lawyers do this all the time, taking words (concepts) and playing against their usual uses/meanings. A typical trope is looking for logical rules governing the meaning of the word -- in order to be a 'religion,' a social practice must exhibit the following qualities .... Language doesn't really work that way -- it has its own logic but not of the 'law of the excluded middle' sort. Law is the opposite, and while it swims in a sea of words, thrives on the opposite approach. It's as if the law were stuck in the language-model at the heart of the Tractatus, while life as it's lived embodies the language-model of the Philosophical Investigations.

There is endless trouble arising from that contradiction but it has the upside of keeping law school, to say nothing of the business of lawyering, endlessly amusing for those who enjoy the game.

Fred4Pres said...

How about a song?

Joe said...

(The Uncredentialed, Crypto Jew)
You forget the SHOWER SCENE

You're completely correct. I had the entire experience removed with electroshock therapy


You poor man, that was worth the price of admission, alone…excuse me, I’ll be in my bunk.

Overall it was DOOMED, you cannot make Starship Troopers in the 1990’s and make it work. After 911, possibly, but not in the 1990’s. The book is one of my favourites, at least the opening sequences…the only better opening is Harrison’s The Stainless Steel Rat “…he squashed very nicely, thank you.”

PaulV said...

Garage thinks if he shuts his eyes and prays hard enough to the anti-Walker goddess his dreams will come true.

PaulV said...

I do not remember shower scene from Destination Moon or his other early movies.
Destination Moon (story (from the book Rocket Ship Galileo), screenplay, technical advisor), 1950 IMDb (Retro Hugo Award, 1951)
Tom Corbett, Space Cadet, 1950, (from the book Space Cadet) IMDb
Project Moonbase, 1953 IMDb
The Brain Eaters, 1959, (from the book The Puppet Masters, uncredited, sued by Heinlein) IMDb
Uchu no Senshi (Japanese) (TV Series based on Starship Troopers) (1988)
Red Planet, TV mini-series (from the book), 1994 IMDb
The Puppet Masters (film), film (from the book), 1994 IMDb
Starship Troopers, film very loosely based on the book, 1997 IMDb
Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles, TV series (based on the movie, which was loosely based on the book Starship Troopers), 1999 IMDb

Scott M said...

Overall it was DOOMED, you cannot make Starship Troopers in the 1990’s and make it work.

I disagree. You start by not letting Verhoeven anywhere near it. The CGI was young, but it was definitely do-able. Jurassic Park came out years prior. Expensive? Sure, but there was a huge built in audience.

They would have had to Hollywood up the ending a bit, maybe, but still...

Michael said...

Garage: Comrade, even if Walker is convicted of theft, rape and trespass the unions are not coming back. Sorry, but there will be no rewind. The former members will keep their money and negotiate for themselves.

Joe said...

(The Uncredentialed, Crypto Jew)


It’s not the SFx, it’s the zeitgeist of the book and the zeitgeist of the 1990’s. SST is an EARNEST book…the 1990’s were the time of “irony”, and a supremely UNEARNEST time. You can’t take an earnest book and make an unearnest movie of it, OR make money by making an EARNEST movie of it. That’s why I said, possibly after 9/11, but not during Monica Lewinski. I’ll grant Verhoeven didn’t help, one little bit.

I missed the “powered armour”…I know you can’t have the Mobile Infantry in their “Gorilla Suits” and tell who we’re supposed to pull for and who dies, tragically, but the beauty of the Troopers was the Armour….I mean Johnny Rico was carry a TACTICAL NUCLEAR Missile Launcher, for Yhwh’s sake…I mean he “pops” off a .5 Kt weapon on the Skinny Starport….or water treatment plant…or something…hey, it’s a nuclear weapon who cares what’s your target, it’s AWESOME!

edutcher said...

Madame, if that little clip is any indication of how you run things, I'd love to take one of your classes. I like a prof who makes the troops think, but can keep it loose.

Turning it back to the idea that people form any religion just to get into the monument business is sometimes how things work and a nice insight into the unintended consequences thing.

PS The "sign-up sheet" line was too good.

garage mahal said...

Garage: Comrade, even if Walker is convicted of theft, rape and trespass the unions are not coming back.

Most Democrats are spineless, but not Wisconsin Democrats. They will need majorities to do it, but it's not real difficult to do. It turns out Archer, who's house was just raided, was one of the chief architects of writing that union busting bill, and other odious legislation. Curious to see what was on her hard drive.

E.M. Davis said...

Professor, please step away from the Gill Sans.

Scott M said...

and other odious legislation

Is forcing the state, ie the people, to be responsible for collecting the union's dues not odious in your opinion, GM?

Bushman of the Kohlrabi said...

o·di·ous/ˈōdēəs/

Anything that prevents public tax dollars from being funneled directly to the DNC.

Astro said...

EDH said:
The way she spoke out the side of her mouth with sarcasm, eventually almost mumbling to herself...

I think she was channeling Bob Hope, the master of the corner-of-the-mouth wisecrack.

Lincolntf said...

AGW is a better example of a nouveau "Religion", but I can see anti-Walkerism gaining a foothold among the fanatics. If one is willing to issue death threats, attack infidels and ban opposing viewpoints, as we know the Mad Libs are, then they've already reached the commitment level held by fanatical Muslims.

Christopher in MA said...

"I don't hear any elected Republicans defending Walker in the state."

I was going to snark about garage's hearing being impacted by the location of his head, but I won't. I am, however, going to mark this post as his Pauline Kael moment.

garage mahal said...

Anything that prevents public tax dollars from being funneled directly to the DNC.

I was thinking more of the 39 civil servant jobs Walker made political appointments. We're seeing fallout from that already.

chickenlittle said...

..other odious legislation.

Odic legislation would be more at eye level.

E.M. Davis said...

Curious to see what was on her hard drive.

pr0n!

purplepenquin said...

PaulV beat me to it: Destination Moon was Heinlein's first movie. :D

The reason Starship Troopers was so bad is 'cause it didn't start out as Heinlein's story. Someone else was shopping a script about space-soldiers fighting space-bugs, and it was pointed out to him that it was kinda-sorta similar to that book. So he acquired the rights to Heinlein's classic tale, thus making the movie more marketable, and added a couple pages to his script.

ken in sc said...

Starship Troopers is a pretty good movie if you ignore the Nazi uniforms and other obvious propaganda. I have a copy on vhs which I view from time to time. Actually, it makes me feel more friendly toward fascists than I used to.

Scott M said...

Starship Troopers is a pretty good movie

Blasphemer.

PoNyman said...

David said...
So is the whole discussion available?

Was it a debate or a discussion?


Yes, will this be available?

Ann Althouse said...

"Yes, will this be available?"

Wait for the movie version. On Netflix.

MikeinAppalachia said...

"It turns out Archer, who's house was just raided, was one of the chief architects of writing that union busting bill, and other odious legislation."

So now we know the reason for the raid?

Mitochondri-Allie said...

http://www.thewheelerreport.com/releases/June11/0628/0628affidavit.pdf

The affidavit of Cynthia Archer, that was withdrawn, very strange.