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So come on Roesch, Alpha, and Garage...get with the program!
First up...constitutional amendment removing recall elections. Second, all protestors in the capital have to wear shoes at all times.
If there is a recall against him next year, all he has to do is say what he just said. But in shorter pieces.Who are you gonna want in charge? That guy or the vuvuzela dorks?
Walker says in the clip that other states will be next. Will Indiana or Ohio be one of the mid-western states targeted next by Big Labor?Exclusive remote coverage of those events sounds like a job for New Meadia. _____________wv = yenished: Hey, I think that's what's happened to the dollar.
Did he say, "Suck it, hippies!"? Because that would have been funny.
"First up...constitutional amendment removing recall elections."Not totally in favor of that - would be in favor of a higher threshold for the disgruntled losers to obtain. There has to be a way to get rid of crooks. This bogus trying to get rid of someone you disagree with after they won an election is childish at best. Both sides
Will Indiana or Ohio be one of the mid-western states targeted next by Big Labor we have here in Ohio, the Unions got on the ballot to give them back their collective bargaining "rights"http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/08/03/138957665/voters-set-to-decide-whether-ohios-union-changes-take-effect
Wisconsonians... Is Illinois your whipping boy or what!!!! :-)
Why he sounded so... so... reasonable.I thought he was a raving lunatic.
How does last night affect a Walker recall? Will Democrats continue to push it, or will they cut their losses and focus on the legislative races?
As a property owner in both WI and IL, I'm pleased to see at least one of them sober up.
Lance - DKos already has a post up lauding the result as a big win for the left and vowing to forge forward, hoping for more such "wins". So, no, I'm not expecting them to face reality. Why start now?
sonicfrog said...Wisconsonians... Is Illinois your whipping boy or what!!!! :-)FIP!
If the Wisconsin economy is doing well in 2012, and the national economy isn't, that could be a drag on Obama's efforts to take Wisconsin.
Mike,obama can expect a large amount of votes from Milwaukee and Madison, irregardless of how Wisconsin is doing economically. Not to mention the large amount of votes he'll receive from teachers and professors. Hey!
irregardless****BUZZER****(only because someone in my family does it to me)
Ah ha! I see that irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements.I'll try not to use it again, irregardless that it sounds like I know some big words.
Is Walker the mad man who chokes the women?Wisconsin gets so confusing.
Trad guy said: Is Walker the mad man who chokes the women?No, Walker is the anti-debt man walking.
"There has to be a way to get rid of crooks."Why not rely on the way that we have in the federal Constitution? Each house has the power to expel members, with a supermajority vote. Executive branch officials are removed through impeachment and trial, a 2-house process. These are much better safeguards, and the avoid all the fund-raising.
@Allen S"Not to mention the large amount of votes he'll receive from the dead, non-resident students, teachers and professors."FIFY
"(only because someone in my family does it to me)"Only one? You are lucky. I've got 5 of them that ding me for it.
"(only because someone in my family does it to me)"And don't get me started on "inflammable".
I say we start a recall of Governor Walker for this winter. It will cost Big Labor $27,000,000 and Mr. Walker will win. This is what democracy looks like.
Good speech. You could also point out that the outsiders who came in brought income in. They didn't sleep in tents. And, they had to eat. At least two meals a day. Heck, even Starbucks sold more coffee!And, yes. Wisconsin is in GREAT SHAPE. Walker's got no need to change horses.And, he's so local! I can't imagine his voice isn't a comfort. Schools will start soon. Kids will be happy. And, parents, even happier.I think that's why there's so much school stuff that goes on sale in August. It's like Christmas. But, here, you're buying kids sox. Pencils. Pencil cases. Parents are overjoyed, already.As to politics? You know nothing's changed! It looks like November's win, all over again.And, America learned people VOTE in large numbers. Even in August. When, in the past, people ignored politics. And, politicians kept thinking that Americans only begin to pay attention to politics after Labor Day.Good Show.Good tactics met an onslaught from out of state. And, that made cash registers jingle.Did politicians learn anything new?
"irregardless****BUZZER****"Interesting. How exactly did the word 'regardless' morph into 'irregardless'?Must have some relationship to the Havahd pause.wv - thlov
And don't get me started on "inflammable".Okay. But don't get ME started on "decimate". I saw at least two headlines about Wall Street over the past couple of days to the tune of "Investors Decimated".So...apparently, the Italians showed up and killed every 10th investor.
I really must object to the goofy face that YouTube displays for the still. This is despicable manipulation of public perceptions by Google computer commies. They might as well put crazy eyes on him too.
The union was hoping he would apologize, announce his shame, and commit sepuku on TV. Sadly for them, that did not happen.
Another irritation.Its not the 'democratic' party, its the 'democrat' party.I hear this one constantly and I invariably shout 'NO! ITS DEMOCRAT PARTY, ASSHOLE!' at my radio or TV set.Nothing democratic AT ALL about them.NOTHING.
I agree about the misuse of "decimate" but don't understand the problem with "inflammable". Probably just because I hear/read one misused more than the other.How about the use of "literally" when they mean "figuratively"?
Mr Walker comes across as an adult who was hired to do a job. Not play games. As much as I like Tommy Thompson, I don't think Wisconsin has had a professional in the office for decades.
" agree about the misuse of "decimate" but don't understand the problem with "inflammable"""Inflammable" means likely to burst into flames, but some people might make the mistake of reading the prefix "in-" to mean not. Therefore the word "flammable" was invented to paint on various things that might burst into flames. It's not worth being correct at the cost of the potential mistake. Both words mean the same thing.
Nothing democratic AT ALL about them.As long as they have superdelegates, it's the party of aristocracy.
Old dead eyes doesn't mention that unemployment actually increased and our neighbor Minnesota had a greater job increase. It is too soon chicken, and too much can happen in the next year for me to join the Walker Program.
"Lance said...How does last night affect a Walker recall? Will Democrats continue to push it, or will they cut their losses and focus on the legislative races?"I say no. Obama will need that union money for his own failed effort, and also cannot risk another loss (and it surely will be) in the run-up.
"Inflammable" means likely to burst into flames, but some people might make the mistake of reading the prefix "in-" to mean not."That's the thing about the english language. It's not always consistent.The prefix 'in-' is used as a modifier to mean 'not' in most cases (i.e. 'voluntary' and 'involuntary').So it is relatively easy to see why one might make this mistake. It might not make sense to everyone that 'inflammable' and 'flammable' mean basically the same thing.It does make more sense if you point out that the root/relation of 'inflammable' may be 'inflame' (v.)
invisible = visible?At the very least, the "in" seems superfluous.
Can anyone watch that terrifying video and NOT equate Walker with Hitler?!?!
garage is about ready to combust.
Superior shit roeschie is withholding his support for "old dead eyes." All is lost.
@Chuck66"Mr Walker comes across as an adult who was hired to do a job. Not play games."Yes.And more adults are needed to replace the life-sucking troglodytes that exist at our expense in statehouses and DC alike.Mr. Walker is quite refreshing.
Superior shit roeschie is withholding his support for "old dead eyes." All is lost.He could be talking about Patty Murray-Keep Hope ALIVE!!1!
"roesch-voltaire said...Old dead eyes doesn't mention that unemployment actually increased and our neighbor Minnesota had a greater job increase. It is too soon chicken, and too much can happen in the next year for me to join the Walker Program."Source? Because Gov. Dayton said " "Even though Minnesota is relatively better off, our employment growth has been relatively stagnant." He said that today.
This guy is clearly a nut.
I've always like the instruction: "if you read a sentence with the word 'quite' in it, you will find that it is quite unnecessary"
This guy is clearly a nut.I don't know why, given what everyone has said upthread all day, but for some reason, this hit me just right. I started laughing and, frankly, haven't stopped yet.Clearly, when I'm driving home tonight from this stupid client meet-and-greet (free booze and food), I'll think of it and start laughing all over again.
...still chuckling...WV - "playmyte" - a microscopic skin eater's best friend.
@Roesch: our neighbor Minnesota had a greater job increase.That is a statistical artifact caused by all the laid-off do-nothing government slugs going back on the public teat after the Minnesota shutdown. You are either ignorant or mendacious.http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minnesota-government-shutdown-added-to-national-gloom-over-government-jobs-in-july/2011/08/05/gIQAFjHywI_story.htmlHalf of all REAL jobs created in the country in June were in Wisconsin, thanks to the Walker Program.http://legis.wisconsin.gov/senate/moulton/pressreleases/Pages/Moulton-Wisconsin%20Accounts%20for%20Half%20of%20New%20US%20Jobs%20in%20June.aspx
A good politician looks for crowds. Even in restaurants. We he knows how to go from table to table and shakes everybody's hand.Walker's got the wind to his back.And, he's also got real power ... as set forth by what a governor can really, really do.Again, I remember learning about Tommy Thompson. From a mom. Who came with her younger son to a Certamin. Held that time at my son's high school.We were just sitting, all together, in the teacher's room. Noshing. And, talking. When she told the story of her older son. GREAT STUDENT! But didn't make Harvard's cut. Didn't make Stanford's. Or Berkeley's. And, went to Wisconsin. When she got a call from her previously very depressed son ... on Halloween. Telling her he was at the Governor's mansion ... in Wisconsin. Because Tommy Thompson came to campus and invited a few lonely kids back up to his digs.Kid was hungry. And, given permission to go into the kitchen. And, check out what was there to eat.Mom said to me, can you imagine any governor in California doing this?To find the real "menches" ... you need to leave California. And, trudge to a school in America's "Mid West."Who knew? I leared something new that day, that I didn't forget.
You know, this mother didn't say this refrigerator was stuffed with cheese.There was a good array of food, inside.And, one really, really, really wise politician!I'll bet Walker is also a mensh.
Oy. If people use time lines for dates, my son graduated high school in June 1997.
TOTAL RECALL!!!Too late?
"Not to mention the large amount of votes he'll receive from the dead, non-resident students, teachers and professors."I was at a bar in LaCrosse last night, not realizing that the Democrat Election Party was in an attached conference room. One of the ladies from the event asked me if I had voted. When I explained that I didn't live in the district, she said that was no problem: she'd drive me to the polls and I could vote as her husband who was out of town.
Ann, I found this at Walter Mead's blog spot: http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/Scott Walker Planned Wisconsin Fair Riots?from Walter Mead by Walter Russell MeadWho says Americans can’t think outside the box anymore?A self described “former economic adviser” to the Mayor of Oakland (not the current Governor of California for whom some moonbeams are too moonbatty to hire) argues that the Wisconsin State Fair mini-riot was a plot by Scott Walker. Noam Chomsky watch out — the competition is gaining on you. My contention, based on that and other examples that could fill a book, is that Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker was, in some way, behind that so-called Black Youth Attack and worked to benefit from it. It didn’t just happen. Stay tuned.
Here's the problem for Democrats: there are plenty of prog groups more than willing to spend time and effort rounding up signatures for a Walker recall. But then what? Do Democrats really want to commit the resources necessary to un-elect Walker? What happens if the signatures get collected but Democrats decide to not commit resources to the actual recall election, how will it look to let Walker have an easy win?Seems to me the state party needs to make a quick decision one way or the other.
A net gain of only 2 seats?If the unions are going to buy Wisconsin back, they're going to have to come up with more than $30 mil.
Every time I hear him speak I expect "red meat" for wingers. He never delivers.Instead; he repeats his clear plan to cut government expenses and fix the budget. And he anticipates improving Wisconsin's economy.I like that.
When will it be appropriate to quote Shakespeare as regards the democratic/labor protests in Wisconsin:full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
In a previous post, I heard the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel called a "conservative" paper. I lived in Milwakee from 1960-1983 and I used to love the conservative morning Sentinel, and hated the liberal Journal. Then the Journal bought the Sentinel, and I stopped reading it. Fast forward to today. What a freaking coincidence that the "conservative" MJS prints an editorial relatively favorable to the effect that Walker's budget is having around the state, and they wait until the day after the recall elections, isn't it?Sky Isn't FallingConservative, my *ss.
Curious old dead eyes can't match this:ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) – Minnesota’s unemployment rate remained relatively steady again in June after adding 13,200 jobs.Link: http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/07/21/13200-jobs-added-in-june-in-minnesota/
RV-Did you know that Minnesota has had a lower unemployment rate-compared to Wisconsin since about- 1977?See if this graph loads for you:Unemployment rate Wisconsin vs. MinnesotaMinnesota should appear in the red.
Then do you see that anomaly where Wisconsin's unemployment gets significantly higher than it usually trends when in comparison to Wisconsin's....about the 2005-2010 time frame?That would be Tim Pawlenty Republican in Minnesota vs. Doyle Democrat in Wisconsin-you could say that the current Minnesota inherited a pretty good situation from Pawlenty-right?(particularly if you wrote speeches for Obama)You know what you should do-you should write up an ad campaign for-Pawlenty!
Ga!I did a typo and haven't been able to correct it...Minnesota has had a lower unemployment rate when compared to Wisconsin since-1997.
The unions spent 40 million in this state and sent in tons of people. Great - we want money and visitors. And next year another banner year is predicted for union spending and union visitors in Wisconsin. A new tourist attraction called Walkerville has been built in Madison quite cheaply, complete with authentic songs and dancing and its own costume drama, "People Rising". Excellent. Walker and the Republicans promised better times and they have delivered. Just hope the unions never figure out the way Wisconsin is scamming them.
"How does last night affect a Walker recall? Will Democrats continue to push it, or will they cut their losses and focus on the legislative races?"Both are right. Some bunch of Dems will doubtless try the recall. However, I'd bet most of their best prospects, like Feingold, will find somewhere else to be during any more recalls.
@sorepaw"Its not the 'democratic' party, its the 'democrat' party."Democratic" is the adjectival form."Right.Score one for the 'republicanic' party.
It seems the majority of Democratic talking points only work if you never hear anything their target has ever said.
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