Conducting voter registration drives in local cemeteries?
Hey, wait a second...
First, Althouse fell to second place in the Weblog Awards polls. The next thing we know, Ann's in the Windy City, having nebulous secret "discussions" about "politics". I think we can all see where this is going.
Frontera Grill has gone down hill and there is an absurd wait. You want Alinea. It's 14 courses. Day-of reservations are impossibly. But tell them you are a famous blogger.
More plausibly, MK Is consistently the best restaurant in town. Gibson's is good for Chicago-ness. Both are close by.
There is a little Italian dive called Papa Milano at the corner of State and Oak (I believe). It's about three blocks from the Sofitel. It's going out of business after 50 years thanks to high-rise construction. I highly recommend it.
Topolobampo (the sister restaurant next door to Frontera Grill) is consistently named one of the best Mexican restaurants in the country. The NYT called it "the most elegant and serious Mexican restaurant in the country."
I've never had a great meal at Frontera Grill (I think there's much better food of that type for much less in some of the city neighborhoods), but Topolo blows me away every time. It's certainly more expensive than Frontera, but it's far and away worth the additional price. I really don't know why anyone would still eat at Frontera if they've eaten next door.
Yeah, I am here with Jonah Goldberg and a bunch of other conservatives... talking about conservatism. If you've ever really wanted proof that your humble blogger is not particularly conservative, you should see me in this context!
Thanks, Karl. If I ever get up to Chicago, I'll keep Topolobampo in mind. But, I have to admit, I'm quite partial to the hole-in-the-wall variety of Mexican food found all over the place in San Antonio. It would have to be a pretty good taco plate to prompt me to spend a pretty penny on it.
I have never quite understood why you were considered conservative. I remember your post about who you were going to vote for in 2004. You gave Kerry much more credit than did any real conservative I know.
But that analysis is what convinced me that you were one of the few real moderates I see anymore. For almost everyone else, it seems like their decisions were much more cut and dried: one candidate was ok/good and the other horrible.
One more food suggestion, if I may: Garrett's Popcorn. Surely no one who loves caramel corn will disagree with me on that...
I was at Frontera Grill 2 weeks ago today, and the mahi-mahi was delicious. Our margaritas were near-perfect. We waited only a few minutes for a seat, although it was a Thursday.
Seven Machos: if there is usually an "absurd wait," it would seem many people disagree with you about the "Frontera Grill has gone down hill" idea.
I second the nomination for Garrett's popcorn. Even better: get a half-and-half mix of their cheese popcorn and caramel corn. Your fingers will be discolored, but your tummy will love it.
There was a pic of Siskel and Ebert getting their popcorn at Garrett's in the shop. That was a million years ago, so I don't know if they still have that photo up. But those guys know/knew their popcorn.
Ann Althouse said... "I am here with Jonah Goldberg and a bunch of other conservatives... talking about conservatism. If you've ever really wanted proof that your humble blogger is not particularly conservative, you should see me in this context!"
Ah, but I suppose the crucial question must be: are you open to persuasion on the point? ;)
Yeah, I am here with Jonah Goldberg and a bunch of other conservatives... talking about conservatism. If you've ever really wanted proof that your humble blogger is not particularly conservative, you should see me in this context!
Wouldn't it be better proof if you weren't an invited speaker at a conference for conservatives? It seems like the context actually makes you look more conservative. Or did you simply mean that you look 'not particularly conservative' in the context of people selected for their conservativism?
Then why does she attend their conferences? Most people who are not conservatives don't attend conservative conferences. At any rate, I'm at a loss as to how being invited to conservative conference reinforces Ann's non-conservative status.
Clearly, conservatives and liberals and moderates should never interact with each other. They should especially avoid meeting in person, socially, where you must deal with people as people, not as arguers or opponents.
In this way, bitterness and rancor and misunderstand can be maximized, and little in the way of good, workable law can be created.
This is a Liberty Fund conference, where the idea is to invite a diverse group of people -- 16 of us -- to sit around a table talking about a set of readings. There's a discussion leader and there's no audience. There are no presentations or prepared remarks. We just gab about the readings, in 6 sessions, each an hour and a half long. And we eat meals together and hang out in a hospitality room at the hotel. It's really cool.
Simon: The subject is "Frank S. Meyer and the Fusion of Freedom and Tradition," that is the fusion of the libertarianism and conservatism. The main book is Meyer's "In Defense of Freedom." There are lots of articles on the subject as well, about 450 pages of reading.
I attended because I was invited by someone I respect, was interested in the other attendees, and I wanted to learn about the subject. I wasn't trying to prove anything about my politics.
I'm faintly ashamed to say I've never read it, but from the Amazon reviews, it looks interesting.
"I wasn't trying to prove anything about my politics."
It seems that the only people who think that you were are the people who decided some time ago that they know all about your politics... In any event, merely to read conservative thought is not to be persuaded by it. It's a good start, though.;)
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Are you at Loyola?
Let me know if you need any restaurant recommendations...I live/work a few blocks from there.
If you have free time, check out the Christkindlmarket in Daley plaza (on Washington between Clark & Dearborn, 11am to 8pm daily).
-kd
That's the best picture I've seen here.
Hanging out with political movers and shakers in smoky back rooms?
Conducting voter registration drives in local cemeteries?
Jes' kiddin.
It is a great pic. What's the cool old building? I used to live there--I should know! Although I didn't ever look at the city from that angle.
*chuckles*
Something about 'Chicago' and 'politics,' hey Rowena?
OKay. I finally figured out where Ann Althouse is. The view here is south. I'd say the name of the hotel, but I worry about the stalkers.
7Machos,
I guessed in the other photo thread, and AA confirmed it. I didn't think she'd be concerned, as we played "Guess the Hotel" during her trip out west.
-kd
Well then. It's the Sofitel. Still working on the room number. ;]
Conducting voter registration drives in local cemeteries?
Hey, wait a second...
First, Althouse fell to second place in the Weblog Awards polls. The next thing we know, Ann's in the Windy City, having nebulous secret "discussions" about "politics". I think we can all see where this is going.
Jonah Goldberg just flew to Chicago for a conference. Hmmm.
Ah, Chicago. Love that town. If you get a chance, grab a bite to eat at Frontera Grill, especially if you like Mexican food.
Mexican food? In Chicago? As a native San Antonian, the thought intrigues me.
Frontera Grill has gone down hill and there is an absurd wait. You want Alinea. It's 14 courses. Day-of reservations are impossibly. But tell them you are a famous blogger.
More plausibly, MK Is consistently the best restaurant in town. Gibson's is good for Chicago-ness. Both are close by.
There is a little Italian dive called Papa Milano at the corner of State and Oak (I believe). It's about three blocks from the Sofitel. It's going out of business after 50 years thanks to high-rise construction. I highly recommend it.
Topolobampo (the sister restaurant next door to Frontera Grill) is consistently named one of the best Mexican restaurants in the country. The NYT called it "the most elegant and serious Mexican restaurant in the country."
I've never had a great meal at Frontera Grill (I think there's much better food of that type for much less in some of the city neighborhoods), but Topolo blows me away every time. It's certainly more expensive than Frontera, but it's far and away worth the additional price. I really don't know why anyone would still eat at Frontera if they've eaten next door.
-kd
Karl -- Topolobombo is better but I'm telling you, Frontera/Topolobombo have gone down hill. MK!
Yeah, I am here with Jonah Goldberg and a bunch of other conservatives... talking about conservatism. If you've ever really wanted proof that your humble blogger is not particularly conservative, you should see me in this context!
Yes, MK is quite good, but, it's no Le Français or even Les Nomades.
I wasn't ignoring it; it just didn't seem on point. I was replying to Albatross' intrigue re: good Mexican cuisine in Chicago.
-kd
Les Nomades! Always a delicious, incredible treat. I always forget that place.
Thanks, Karl. If I ever get up to Chicago, I'll keep Topolobampo in mind. But, I have to admit, I'm quite partial to the hole-in-the-wall variety of Mexican food found all over the place in San Antonio. It would have to be a pretty good taco plate to prompt me to spend a pretty penny on it.
I'm here at a conference... the theme is political.
What? I'm sure when you get close to any group of people, the theme becomes...avoidance.
..by the way, a tenured law professor in her late fifties really should know a bit more about hair colour.
Ann,
I have never quite understood why you were considered conservative. I remember your post about who you were going to vote for in 2004. You gave Kerry much more credit than did any real conservative I know.
But that analysis is what convinced me that you were one of the few real moderates I see anymore. For almost everyone else, it seems like their decisions were much more cut and dried: one candidate was ok/good and the other horrible.
So, Chicago is a city.
Vitality, urbanity, cosmopolitanism, culture, opportunity, wealth, intrigue.
Remind me why people don't like cities? What's not to love?
They're the center of the world. No yeoman farmer for me. I'm sure Jefferson's spinning in his grave but screw him.
One more food suggestion, if I may: Garrett's Popcorn. Surely no one who loves caramel corn will disagree with me on that...
I was at Frontera Grill 2 weeks ago today, and the mahi-mahi was delicious. Our margaritas were near-perfect. We waited only a few minutes for a seat, although it was a Thursday.
Seven Machos: if there is usually an "absurd wait," it would seem many people disagree with you about the "Frontera Grill has gone down hill" idea.
I second the nomination for Garrett's popcorn. Even better: get a half-and-half mix of their cheese popcorn and caramel corn. Your fingers will be discolored, but your tummy will love it.
There was a pic of Siskel and Ebert getting their popcorn at Garrett's in the shop. That was a million years ago, so I don't know if they still have that photo up. But those guys know/knew their popcorn.
Ann Althouse said...
"I am here with Jonah Goldberg and a bunch of other conservatives... talking about conservatism. If you've ever really wanted proof that your humble blogger is not particularly conservative, you should see me in this context!"
Ah, but I suppose the crucial question must be: are you open to persuasion on the point? ;)
Yeah, I am here with Jonah Goldberg and a bunch of other conservatives... talking about conservatism. If you've ever really wanted proof that your humble blogger is not particularly conservative, you should see me in this context!
Wouldn't it be better proof if you weren't an invited speaker at a conference for conservatives? It seems like the context actually makes you look more conservative. Or did you simply mean that you look 'not particularly conservative' in the context of people selected for their conservativism?
Careful with that Garrett's corn. There must be crack in it. Very addicting.
I thought that was Jimmy's corn.
Neil,
Maybe I missed something. Where was it said that Ann was an invited speaker at this conference, rather than just an attendee?
Neil:
I'll say it slowly. She meant:
If. You. Look. At. Actual. (And. Self-Described.) Conservatives. She's. Not. One.
Matt: A wait at the restaurant can be an inverse predictor of the quality of the food. A wait for reservations is a different story.
Where was it said that Ann was an invited speaker at this conference, rather than just an attendee?
Well, she wrote that she was talking about conservativism, not listening to people talk about conservativism.
If. You. Look. At. Actual. (And. Self-Described.) Conservatives. She's. Not. One.
Then why does she attend their conferences? Most people who are not conservatives don't attend conservative conferences. At any rate, I'm at a loss as to how being invited to conservative conference reinforces Ann's non-conservative status.
Clearly, conservatives and liberals and moderates should never interact with each other. They should especially avoid meeting in person, socially, where you must deal with people as people, not as arguers or opponents.
In this way, bitterness and rancor and misunderstand can be maximized, and little in the way of good, workable law can be created.
That's awesome, Neil.
This is a Liberty Fund conference, where the idea is to invite a diverse group of people -- 16 of us -- to sit around a table talking about a set of readings. There's a discussion leader and there's no audience. There are no presentations or prepared remarks. We just gab about the readings, in 6 sessions, each an hour and a half long. And we eat meals together and hang out in a hospitality room at the hotel. It's really cool.
Ann - what were the readings?
Simon: The subject is "Frank S. Meyer and the Fusion of Freedom and Tradition," that is the fusion of the libertarianism and conservatism. The main book is Meyer's "In Defense of Freedom." There are lots of articles on the subject as well, about 450 pages of reading.
I attended because I was invited by someone I respect, was interested in the other attendees, and I wanted to learn about the subject. I wasn't trying to prove anything about my politics.
I'm faintly ashamed to say I've never read it, but from the Amazon reviews, it looks interesting.
"I wasn't trying to prove anything about my politics."
It seems that the only people who think that you were are the people who decided some time ago that they know all about your politics... In any event, merely to read conservative thought is not to be persuaded by it. It's a good start, though.;)
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