May 21, 2006

Tommy Thompson and "the three little T's."

It's funny that a guy with the initials TT -- does he drive a TT? -- seized upon the rhetorical device of "the three little T's" to denounce Governor Doyle:
Thompson, [gubernatorial candidate Mark] Green and Milwaukee County Executive Scott Walker, who bowed out of the race earlier this spring, heaped scorn on a governor they characterized as a tool of the state teachers union, the trial lawyers and tribal gambling interests ("the three little T's," Thompson called them).

"We believe in the big T that trumps all those other Ts. That's you, the taxpayer," Thompson said. "This T is going to spend my summer and fall making sure you taxpayers know that."...

Green accused Doyle of "selling out" the state to special interests by vetoing legislation that would have limited corporate liability, opposing expansion of Milwaukee's school choice program and fighting legislative oversight of tribal gambling compacts.
Unfortunately, Green seems to be a hardcore social conservative. He favors making abortion illegal except to save a woman's life.

22 comments:

Troy said...

I've always laughed at the irony of those who accuse pro-lifers of being single-issue voters. It would be interesting to find a good lib dem who just happened to be anti-abortion and see what happens -- today -- not back when Casey was active. The fact that that almost seems an impossibility speaks volumes about the Dem. Party.

Would you vote for (or seriously consider it) Green if he's the best candidate? I'm sincerely curious, since I don't think you'd be a single-issue voter.

Dad29 said...

"Unfortunately..."??

Really.

MadisonMan said...

It's hard to vote for someone who tells a child pregnant by a rapist to just tough it out and have the kid.

Green also smells of DeLay to me.

Mary said...

Is abortion necessarily a single issue, Troy?

Or does it say something bigger about who makes decisions, and the role and size of government?

Troy said...

Nice bit of sophistry Mary. Abortion involves many "issues". Water is wet.

I'm not the one who's saying it's a single issue. I made the observation that pro-lifers are often tagged (not by Ann) -- pejoratively -- as single issue voters. Ann made the comment that Green seemed like an otherwise acceptable candidate except he was pro-life. Question to Ann... I am sincerely curious. It's not quite the level of nude walks (Chris triggered bad health club flashbacks!), but nonetheless I'm curious.

Ann Althouse said...

Mary said..."Is abortion necessarily a single issue, Troy?"

Good point. I think such an extreme position on abortion suggests all sorts of other positions that I disagree with. Note that the final paragraph of my post has two sentences. The second sentence is presented as evidence of the statement in the first sentence.

My assumption is that I can't trust Green. I don't like Doyle either.

Ann Althouse said...

Troy: What's the question? Would I vote for Green is he's the "best candidate"? Obviously, I'll vote for whoever I think is the best candidate. Do you mean do I think someone who's antiabortion could ever be the best candidate? The answer to that question is yes.

CB said...

As a law student and a judicial clerk, I should probably know this, but what the heck does "trial lawyer" mean? I've always assumed it's a completely dishonest and meaningless term, like "organized religion."

Must...resist...debating...abortion...

Ann Althouse said...

CB: It refers to personal injury lawyers. It's what they call themselves too, so it's not just a pejorative, though it's often used as if it is.

Ann Althouse said...

On the plaintiff's side.

Bissage said...

Ann and CB: True. But "trial lawyer" is also used in contradistinction to "litigator," in which case it is roughly synonymous to "barrister."

In some firms, litigators work the case until it goes to trial (if it must) whereupon the file is handed off to a trial lawyer (usually a partner) who then works his or her special magic.

CB said...

Ann,
I knew that trial lawyer meant personal injury plaintiff's lawyer; it's the use of the word "trial" in this context that I don't understand. It's especially strange these days when PI lawyers particularly seem to be interested in settlement (i.e., avoiding trial)

I just had 2 verification words in a row that were literally unreadable--the first had a zigzag that could have been WV or VW or IMI and the second had one that could have been inm or inin or mm or min--grr.

Ann Althouse said...

Bissage: That's not how I've seen the 2 terms used. It has more to do with the type of client and the side you're on.

CB said...

bissage,
I knew that law firms did that--that's what's been confusing me.

CB said...

Ann,
That's exactly what I've thought was strange: there are lawyers who specialize in doing trial work, and there are lawyers who are called trial lawyers, but they're not the same thing.

Ann Althouse said...

CB: Well, it's the person's capacity to fight that makes you want to avoid a fight with him.

Re verification words: if you can't read it, just hit publish, and you'll get a different one. I just reject them until I get one that's easy to see.

Bissage said...

Ann: Yes. I'm agreeing with you. My point is that there is another (obscure) usage.

CB: I think it stems from pi lawyers' general tendency to see themselves as champions of the little guy. For example, many pi lawyers also practice criminal defense, and not just because the clents are the same.

Many of these lawyers see themselves as David's who won't run from a fight. In this sense, to call one's self a "trial lawyer" is to think of one's self as a gladiator in the ring. It is an honorific and a threat: "You'd better pay my demand because I'm not afraid to try this case. I'm a trial lawyer."

P.S. The foregoing is merely descriptive, not snarky. I worked for a pi guy who said this about himself, almost word for word. And he was the nicest guy I ever met. And a good lawyer. And he settled a lot of cases.

Bissage said...

Oops. Look's like Ann beat me to it. Oh, well.

Ross said...

A good lib dem who just happens tp be anti-abortion? Funny, a new Casey is active: www.bobcaseyforpa.com. So much for your impossibility.

And my trusted assistant Mr. Google informs me of this:

"The Quinnipiac Polling Institute earlier this month found Casey leads Santorum by 49 percent to 36 percent."

displaced ched head said...

'UNFORTUNATELY" that is your insight into the candidates position on a human life?
I guess Green smells of Delay as Doyle smells of Jefferson.
Sophistry thy name is this blog. Lawyers fawning all over each other; trying to define the definition of is. Wow, how about another post on American Idol, better yet The Dixie Twits are on Letterman tomorrow night blog that. Its all the same to me, law, lawyers, t.v., pretentious dinner parties. Give me a break.

MadisonMan said...

I guess Green smells of Delay as Doyle smells of Jefferson.

Thomas Jefferson? Jefferson County?

I do think the Republican Party erred in nominating Green. Seemingly all the Legislative leaders of the TT era have been imprisoned on various corruption charges, and now the Republicans offer up someone tied up with corruption in DC and Texas? Anything Doyle has done is flying below radar at the moment. Granted, this is on the west side of Madison. Maybe my relatives in Waukesha County hear something else.

Anyway, for a voter fatigued by scandal (again), Green is not a breath of fresh air.

buck turgidson said...

That's funny... Green has a far bigger albatross around his neck then trial lawyers and tribal money. He's got the Abramoff stench all through his campaign. And Tommy is a chicken--his poll numbers told him that he did not have a slam dunk and he pulled out. Now he's talking as if he's going to run for Senate against Kohl. Right! On what record? As ex-governor who was too chicken to try it again? Or as a Bush-Cheney toady? Tommy, we hardly knew yah!