February 14, 2006

The "persistent Lloyd Dobler fetish."

Women love Lloyd Dobler:
Sasha Johnson, 29, a Washington TV producer [says:] "Lloyd Dobler ruined men forever. I can't take total credit for this, an ex-boyfriend said this to me once. He contended that Lloyd Dobler's boombox moment became the pinnacle of romance -- the standard that no man could ever meet no matter how hard he tried. I've always loved Lloyd Dobler and have grown to appreciate him more as the years have gone on . . . the guy in high school that no woman wanted but ultimately now the kind of man we want to marry.

"He had that right mix of self-assuredness, sensitivity and geekiness. He was willing to make an insanely bold gesture to get the woman of his dreams back -- something every woman wishes could happen to her."

Shawna Shepherd, 28, an associate TV producer, agrees. "I am always on the hunt for the Lloyd Dobler type. Unfortunately the ones I've dated so far pale in comparison to the Hollywood character," she says. "Sure they were quirky, and the mix tapes award-winning -- I still listen to them -- but a shower and a treat to dinner every now and then would have been nice, too. And let's face it, if a guy stood outside with a boombox playing music outside my window, I'd be unimpressed and slightly freaked out."

27 comments:

Steve Barton said...

Is Lloyd Dobler a robot? I hadn't heard that before.

Ann Althouse said...

He's the hot new robot we've all been waiting for.

reader_iam said...

In many ways, though not in terms of career aimlessness, my husband is a Lloyd Dobler. (Really! I had a number of friends, including males ones, make that exact comparison when we started dating.)It took until my '30s to find him, but worth the wait.

XWL said...

Damn you Cameron Crowe for your writing and direction, damn you John Cusack for your acting, and damn you Ione Skye for being so attractive back in the day when we attended the same junior high and had lockers near each other that I never had the courage to even utter a word to you.

(oh, and damn me for being so durn shy back then)

Also

Does the Dobler-bot come with the more modern iPod with iBoom, or does he rock it old school with the massive boom box?

ModNewt said...

Don't get me wrong; I really liked the movie, but doesn't this fall under the category of fantasy? I mean I'm in love with Jessica Rabbit, but I don't run around trying to find her equal.

The movie barely hints at the fact that Lloyd is not her intellectual equal and that might well doom the relationship.

jeff said...

I went through my 20s with girls telling me that I'd make a wonderful husband/father someday.

For some reason none of them wanted to date me though. I figure it was the slime factor - I didn't have enough of it.

Finally found a sane woman when I was 34... married her 9 months later.

I've liked a lot of the roles that John Cusack has played - Grosse Pointe Blank is probably my favorite, followed closely by Say Anything.

Ruth Anne Adams said...

Re: robotics--"Kickboxing. Sport of the future."

Re: career aimlessness-- "I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that."

The word of the Lloyd.

Thanks be to God.

Gaius Arbo said...

A friend helps you move. A real friend helps you move a body.

Tibore said...

Modnewt, if you find a real life Jessica Rabbit, I want to see the pictures!

They don't have to be risque; I don't give a damn if she's wearing a potato sack, just take a photo!

Jacques Cuze said...

True facts: Oliver Barrett was based on Al Gore and Tommy Lee Jones, Lloyd Dobler was based on me.

Harkonnendog said...

If Lloyd Dober tries to shoot you and misses he was actually aiming at a terrorist 11 miles away- and he killed him.

Jennifer said...

Must be a generational thing! Lloyd Dobler seemed to me to be kind of a geeky, semi-greasy, not really a man type of man. But, I was only 13 when that came out. So what did I know? :)

Wade_Garrett said...

Roger Ebert once wrote that not every man wants to be James Bond, but every boy does. I've always like that. Similarly, I've always thought that not every woman loves Lloyd Dobler, but every girl does.

I would have expected more women to grow out of their love of Lloyd Dobler, the way that every man of a certain age fell in love with Phoebe Cates in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, but eventually moved on.

Interesting, the character that John Cusack played in High Fidelity hated Genesis and Peter Gabriel. When I heard that I couldn't believe my ears.

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Aspasia M. said...

I never quite understood the Lloyd Dobler thing. I probably was too old when I first saw the video to get into the boom box serenade.

Sippican,

Well, if my husband had proposed to me in a gorrilla suit we would have needed to talk.

Instead, he proposed at the restaurant Le Francais near Chicago. It was very romantic.

Jennifer said...

Well, if my husband had proposed to me in a gorrilla suit we would have needed to talk.

Heh, heh. And I was going to tell Sippican that if my husband had been moved to rent an entire island to stand on the beach in a leather stetson and bare feet to propose, I would not have complained.

Johnny Nucleo said...

Terry said: "Roger Ebert once wrote that not every man wants to be James Bond, but every boy does. I've always like that. Similarly, I've always thought that not every woman loves Lloyd Dobler, but every girl does."

If I may add: Women say they want a Lloyd Dobler, but they really want a domesticated James Bond.

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Finn Kristiansen said...

I don't buy anything women say about what they supposedly want, cause it's all a bunch of disinformation and confusion. What they say they want, and what they accept or go after, always conflict.

I would be married already if anything women said was even half true.

(DONT JUDGE ME!!!!!!! I'm not bitter)

L. Ron Halfelven said...

True facts: Oliver Barrett was based on Al Gore and Tommy Lee Jones, Lloyd Dobler was based on me.

Who can forget the scene where they're walking across the parking lot of the 7-11 and Lloyd starts telling Diane over and over how the glass was broken by the incompetence of the evil Bush administration and demanding to know why she, as class valedictorian, isn't doing more to alert people to the incompetence of the evil Bush administration?

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Freeman Hunt said...

So people are really into Lloyd Dobler? Maybe I don't remember "Say Anything" very well. I don't remember finding him attractive.

Aspasia M. said...

I think Lloyd Dobler is on the cover of Lisa Simpson's copy of "Non-Threatening Boys Magazine" this month.

heh! I think this sums it up.

I don't buy anything women say about what they supposedly want, cause it's all a bunch of disinformation and confusion. What they say they want, and what they accept or go after, always conflict.

Finn,

This is what women want - You say to your girl:

"Your hair looks great! Let's go get cheesecake!"**

Works every time. Mr. Geoduck can vouch for this.

Seriously, every husband/boyfriend on this list should try it tonight.

(**suggested by Jennifer Cruise.)

somross said...

I'm a little old for Lloyd Dobler, but I've watched the film numerous times with my daughter, born in 1980. We both love the film - and it's so good because John Cusack is so totally invested in the role. He's seems so real!

Crank said...

This was one of those romantic comedies I saw in the theater . . . alone. Which is sad.

Cusack has pretty well perfected, in multiple roles, the guy a lot of us thought we were when we got nowhere with girls/women. Which is why it's so ironic to hear girls/women finding his characters attractive after all.