Some top U.S. officials at the time had privately expressed misgivings that the measure could damage relations with Mexico.... Another concern was that the designations could make it easier for migrants to win U.S. asylum by claiming they were fleeing terrorism. Some analysts have said the terrorism designations could expose asylum seekers who pay cartels to be smuggled to the possibility of prosecution or being barred from the U.S....
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"During Trump's 2017-2021 presidency, he considered terrorism designations for cartels but ultimately shelved the plans."
But now: "US declares Tren de Aragua, other cartels are global terrorist organizations" (Reuters)
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Publicly, we are being told that our special forces will train Mexico's special forces. That does not seem like a good idea. I do not trust the Mexican army, either as an army or as individuals, not to share this training with the cartels and have it used against us.
OTOH, if we said we were sending in special forces to clear out the cartels, it would be a slap in Mexico's face and they would be forced to react, say no, fight us and so on.
So perhaps, we are sending in special forces to clear out the cartels but saying that it is to provide training.
I hope it is more like the latter than the former.
John Henry
Crap, I think I activated italics
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"So perhaps, we are sending in special forces to clear out the cartels but saying that it is to provide training."
Like in Viet Nam.
It does appear that italics are on, but I'm not so sure it is anything you did. Blogger is menopausal.
Looks like we're on italics font. The Strange world of internet fonts and highlights.
Read yesterday that we are flying drones to locate and track cartel members and fentanyl mills but they are “unarmed”.
Haha.
These entities are flooding our country with deadly hard drugs, corrupting our law enforcement and trafficking in/flooding our country with illegal immigrants.
If that isn’t fomenting terror what is it?
hmmm
straighten up
Oh, no! Hope this time it works
Hmm
or
YAY!!!
It appears that Althouse is a fontist. Or perhaps an Italiphobe.
Send in the Marines and smash the cartel’s dope factories. Why have they been allowed to poison hundreds of thousands of ‘Muricans without any consequences? I don’t recall FJB ever mentioning the fentanyl traffic.
Interested Bystander said...
Send in the Marines and smash the cartel’s dope factories.
And wind up having to step in and run Mexico when the government collapses? Are you kidding me?
I am not happy with the terrorism designation . . . for anything. Terrorism and hate crime. Can we please get rid of both of those?
Wasn’t it right about then that laws became stupid?
The html tag to undo italics requires a lower case "i" but the spell check turns it into an upper case I. So you have to go back and switch the letter to lower case.
"And wind up having to step in and run Mexico when the government collapses?"
52nd state.
What Trump does is face facts. He is facing facts in Ukraine, and like it or not, and I don't like it, he may well be facing facts in Gaza, and he is facing facts with the cartels.
So we heard from a commenter here that he once worked on a USAID "agricultural" project, and the whole thing was a front to get trainloads of sulfuric acid to the cartels, which need it to process coca paste into cocaine.
So there's that, because, you know, the cartels can't afford to buy sulfuric acid on their own.
"the terrorism designations could expose asylum seekers who pay cartels to be smuggled to the possibility of prosecution ...."
Cue the 'minority women and children hardest hit' stories. This'll be a fine training ground for the spec-ops folks, and I suspect a proving ground for drone surveillance and new warfare.
Some top U.S. officials at the time
Some unelected bureaucrats who support the Democratic Party is how that should be interpreted.
Easy solution for these cartels: just sell your product online under the guise of being libertarians and maybe Musk or Barron will convince Trump that you’re “based” and to give you a pardon like he gave the founder of Silk Road.
Again with fucking MSM anonymous sources. Who knows if these people are really "Top Officials". The "Top" of what? More likely they're just people who go to cocktail parties with the Reporter.
And oh nooes. " Might Damage our relations with Mexico" - Oh my God, anything but that! Save from that. "Foreign Relations" are a two-way street, and I assume that if Mexico is being a bad neighbor an letting Drug cartels into the USA, then our relations weren't that great to begin with."
The biggest value here I think is that we can go after the money flow. It’s isn’t about kinetic options as much.
^^ The issue here being that most of these groups were already subject to US sanctions under its counternarcotics authorities, so many of these consequences already attached. The main driver is the criminal penalty if funding to the cartels can be linked to a specific act of lethal violence. Under federal law for 'material support' that becomes a life sentence.
RCOCEAN II said...
Again with fucking MSM anonymous sources. Who knows if these people are really "Top Officials". The "Top" of what?
Well, you know they view us as a “bottom”.
Trump ended Obama's Spring in Iraq with a well placed missile to the Iranian back... black hole.. whore h/t NAACP. We have more at stake with the progress of George "Fentanyl" Floyd syndrome, American Civil Liberties Unburdened, and excess murder, rape, and other criminal enterprises prosecuted through [catastrophic] [anthropogenic] immigration reform.
The kakistocracy is melting and the kleptocracy is braying: we're still viable, don't abort us. Here's to mitigating progress at both ends of the bridge and throughout, and sequestering liberal license that is a first-order forcing of climate change.
#HateLovesAbortion
"If that isn’t fomenting terror what is it?"
I don't know but it would be best to stop formatting terror with the use of italics and bold.
Some people start bleeding out the eyes.
Cartel members will be using terrorist bathrooms now.
Not sure what Mexico has to do with tren de aragua, but if it keeps more people from illegally crossing our border.
“I don't know but it would be best to stop formatting terror with the use of italics and bold.”
Don’t blame that infamia on me, Sunny Jim.
Some analysts have said the terrorism designations could expose asylum seekers who pay cartels to be smuggled to the possibility of prosecution or being barred from the U.S.
What about the good, DOGE fearing, US Government officials who funneled money to NGO's who then paid that money to the cartels either directly or indirectly to bring illegal aliens to the US. Are any of those individuals subject to prosecution as well?
They were human trafficking at least and now they'd be funding terrorist organizations, it seems to me. Can they be charged retroactively for the terrorism part?
Biden partisan lecturing us on pardons.
Rich/Sockpuppet is still angry that Laken Riley won't date him.
Of course she can't now because of the people he's mad Trump is going after...
“I don't know but it would be best to stop formatting terror with the use of italics and bold.”
The italic wars are fun.
It always goes like this;
Someone uses italics.
Then some variation of:
“Help”
“Sorry”
“How do I stop this?”
And then usually 3 comment deleted’s.
It makes me laugh every time.
"Some analysts have said the terrorism designations could expose asylum seekers who pay cartels to be smuggled to the possibility of prosecution or being barred from the U.S."
Sounds like an excellent way to de-incentivize people giving money to the cartels. I wonder if it will decrease the number of people coming through Mexico from Asia or the Middle East. It might tip the "is it worth it?" scale over to the negative.
Oh, it could be the US military wants something for our drones to target.
With 'Reply', there was no need to italicize.
I'm just saying.
Wondering what this means for crypto. Is anti-terror legislation more stringent than standard AML legislation? What if Trump meme coins became basis for prescribed trade?
Publicly, we are being told that our special forces will train Mexico's special forces. That does not seem like a good idea. I do not trust the Mexican army, either as an army or as individuals, not to share this training with the cartels and have it used against us.
I agree. But President Trump owes President Sheinbaum a chance to demonstrate that her government can do their job in getting rid of these folks and the facilities. I suspect that the CIA will give her a look at the drone evidence of the location of 2 or 3 fentanyl labs and see what she does about it. If the Mexican army immediately attacks and wipes out those labs and collects the bodies present, alive or dead, then the CIA can show her 2 or 3 more.
However, if the evidence shows the lab inventory and people scattering, then the US has what it needs to take more direct action without the involvement of the Mexican government.
I'm all for it.
- Krumhorn
Seyla Benhabib ponders Hannah Arendt's failure to distinguish regressive political action like January 6th from emancipatory political action presumably to come against Trump. The always amusing contrast being between that and obvious lifelong deep reading in feminism, political science, Marx. Live convocation.
If we stop the importation of fentanyl and its traffic, what do we do with all the strung-out addicts itching for their fix? Even if we fix the supply problem, there's still a demand problem.
Some analysts have said the terrorism designations could expose asylum seekers who pay cartels to be smuggled to the possibility of prosecution or being barred from the U.S....
Well, that's going to play hell with the cartels' business model.
The html tag to undo italics requires a lower case "i"…
No it doesn't. Html tags are insensitive to the case of the tag.
The solution (or at least amelioration) for the italics issue is proofread. If you don't proofread anything else, proofread to make sure the italics and boldface tags are properly opened and closed.
People can't spell properly. What makes you think anyone can proofread?
There is precedence-In fact, there are claims that a US Special Forces sniper shot Pablo Escobar in '93. At the very least, US Military and Civilian Law Enforcement Agencies assisted the Columbians in finding him.
But! But!
We were told by the left for the last 4 years that domestic terorrism was WAAaaaaay worse! Way worse than 9-11, worse than WWII, worse than the Babylonian Captivity (except that happened to Israelis, so that's ok according to Democrats), worse than Krakatoa, worse than the death of Baldur.
So time to focus on domestic terorrists.
Like Antifa.
CAIR
AAUP
The goverment unions.
Do we really not have other ways of keeping out members of criminal cabals and combinations? Haven't we just come out of a period of loosely defining terrorism, and haven't we seen the consequences?
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