"Donald Trump’s retention of documents marked classified at his Mar-a-Lago resort has aggravating factors that might support his criminal prosecution unlike the discovery of some documents also marked classified stored at Joe Biden’s former institute from his time as vice-president, legal experts said."
I'm reading "In the case of the classified documents, it’s more serious for Trump than Biden" — in The Guardian — and laughing.
The aggravating factor in the case of Donald Trump is that he's Donald Trump.
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९२ टिप्पण्या:
I admire that you can laugh. The injustice takes over for me and I get angry instead. The whole thing is not worth my outrage, so thank you for your sangfroid.
It is not the aggravating factor that as President he had authority to declassify the documents as he claimed, because that would mean the story is over.
Why no FBI raid at Delaware?
I love it that he had classified documents that involved Ukraine during his time he was peddling influence there with his son, Hunter as go between and bagman.
Storage facilities are a factor, as well. Mar-a-Lago has a SCIF and a cadre of Secret Service agents. Joe’s Chinese-funded think tank does not.
There was a very interesting article not too long ago that detailed the subversion of the once independent and even lovable Grauniad to another clearinghouse for intelligence community disinformation, like the Washington Post and the New York Times.
Ann is not going to fall for the banana in the tailpipe…
Not to worry they still have Trumps tax return prosecution to fall back on…
Four legs good, two legs bad!
Creepy Joe good, Orange Man bad!
Of course the local news this AM emphasized that, although this is a serious matter (see Trump), the Biden Administration is cooperating - no, fully cooperating - with the investigation.
Nothing to see, just move along ... except for how Trump can be dragged into this too, if only for comparison purposes.
One of the two had the right to declassify documents when they were taken, and one did not. And that is certainly aggravating to those that wish to prosecute (or should I say persecute) him.
They left out the Vice Presidents do not have declassification power and Presidents do part, dinnt they?
Projection is strong on the left. This would make a great Sci-Fi movie akin to The Matrix...reality is but the shared dream of Schumer-Schiff-Pelosi-Biden-AOC-Omar-Clyburn.
Grade school lefty defense for everything they've done wrong: "I know you are but what am I?"
Baghdad Bob: We have a job for you anytime you ask.
It was stupid coverage in Trump's case in the first place. Hypocrisy isn't news but a normal part of life, and here it's taking away the right focus.
They make up the aggravating factors.
They ignored the one aggravating factor that counts.
None of Trump's 'marked classified' are actually classified.
All of Biden's classified documents are classified.
Trump was President WHO has the pqwer to declassify. Hillary and Joe didn't. Trump got raided. Hillary didn't, and Biden won't. Justice in America is for Just US Progressives. This country is fucked up.
Well, he IS aggravating. That much is true.
So much typing. So much blindness. Such INTERESTING times.
It really is funny.
The Palace Guard is in overdrive.
This is crazy. Neither Trump nor Biden ever lost their security clearance. What they know in their heads from just being President is a far greater security risk bs classified document. If they wanted to commit espionage or treason they dont need dome over stamped memo to do it.
Add to the fact that Biden is POTUS and has access to whatever he wants. He can order copies sent to his current office of whatever they found at his old office.
These incidents prove that the inmates run the asylum. No fan of either man but the hysteria over Trump and the whataboutism over Biden should be ridiculed.
Every time I see the phrase “documents marked classified,” I picture the Ministry of Magic, where the markings might magically disappear if the documents are unclassified. As though “marked classified” is synonymous with “classified.”
Why don’t they just say “classified”? Oh, right. Because they don’t know if they are classified, so they just dishonestly impute it. Make it their readers’ fault if the documents turn out not to be classified.
It’s different when they do it.
Like it’s no longer “the end of democracy” different.
And the world laughs with you...
They left off the most important aggravating factor: A President has the power to de-classify at will. Oh, sorry, that one points in the wrong direction, irrelevant.
Has anyone ever been convicted of a crime where the burden of proof is on him, to prove that he didn't do something that he could easily have done that would have made it not a crime at all, at any time over a period of time?
“ The aggravating factor in the case of Donald Trump is that he's Donald Trump.”
This. And only this.
So tired of these word-whores offering their worn-out wares.
In the case of The Guardian, nothing is serious.
"Whataboutism" is a lefty shibboleth, it's a tell that you have taken sides. Joe Biden did not have the almost absolute right of declassification when he purloined the documents, which incidentally, had to do with Ukraine, where, as we all know, though some of us refuse to admit, he was up to his neck in graft.
There is zero evidence that any documents found at Mar a Lago had anything to do with proven graft.
Dave Begley said...
It really is funny.
What is funny is the Never Trumpers that want Trump prosecuted and removed from the ballot for any reason because they know they can't beat him in an election.
I worked for years with "classified" materials in the military. Here's a little secret about such things: The amount of sheer useless crap that qualifies as "classified" is mind-numbing.
Say, for example, that I use the classified side of the military computer network. Which is kept under lock and key, and treated like the high holy font of all knowledge. Wanna know something "interesting" about that? There's a ton of stuff on that network, which is automatically "classified", which is open-source and available over on the other, unclassified part of the network. It's there for convenience, while you're doing research. Yet, any work product from that research remains classified until someone who is authorized declassifies it.
And, some of the most useless crap imaginable gets classified. Say someone asks me to verify clearances for a list of people... I go into my vault, produce that document on one of the classified computers on the classified network inside that vault, and then I'm screwed 'cos that list is now, by virtue of where I did the work, classified. You can't take that file off the network and then put it into an unclassified computer to print. You often wind up having to air-gap the whole thing and have two computers working, one where you're producing the unclassified document and then another classified one where the information is that you're verifying.
The rules are arcane, an entirely nuts, from some perspective. The volume of essentially meaningless information that winds up classified because of those rules is insane, which in turn leads to a lot of problems with "leakage" because that mass alone becomes a reason people don't pay attention to the rules.
We're not even getting into cases where they classify documents in order to keep them out of the public eye. There's stuff that I've seen that was produced from entirely unclassified open sources like newspapers and so forth, but the resultant document had "secret" slapped on it. The only possible reason I could imagine them doing that was because they didn't want people knowing that the questions had been asked in the first place. Either that, or there was some flim-flammery going on with regards to copyright...
So, when you hear these idiots railing about "classified documents were found", be aware that said classified document could represent something as inane as a digest of news reports from the New York Times that was produced because some idjit asked an intel analyst "Hey, what does the New York Times publish and editorialize on this issue?"
I had three-four filing cabinets full of "classified documents" when I ran a brigade-level intel shop. Out of all that mass of paper, I'd honestly have to say that only a tiny fraction was really worth classifying, things like the current Operations Order for whatever our deployed sub-units were doing in Afghanistan or Iraq. The rest was just stuff I had to keep on hand and retain for set periods of time. Huge time-waster; you had to screen everything and then dispose of it on set schedules.
I have to say that the biggest disappointment of having that job was the sheer boring waste of time that the classified documents represented. Most of those file cabinets and hard drives could have been shredded without any repercussion, whatsoever, but because they'd once been classified, they were always classified. Declassifying documents is a bloody nightmare to get done, and you're really better off keeping them all on hand, and then shredding them when the "freshness date" on the retention requirements passes.
The aggravating factor is that Trump can be used to remind the deplorables who's boss. As Trump rightly said, it's not about me, it's about you. So, much as I dislike the guy, let's keep in mind that it's about us. Our overlords mean to lord it over us, everywhere, all the time.
If only someone could come up with an explanation for why Joe "the son of a bitch was fired" Biden might want to hold onto classified info re Ukraine....
The real humor is after reading the silly article, you then get a bonus delusional fan-fiction chaser that they hope will convince you to fund them. It's all the more pathetic because the first part of the fiction is a suggestion that Musk will fail and lose all his money; while here they are literally begging for money.
Every narrative against Donald Trump can be boiled down to "How Dare He!". The ultimate HDH was beating Hillary. It was pre-ordained.
That phrase sums up #45. Trump was totally “an aggravating factor” in the DC mafia’s long rule over us. Which is why he is so popular. But that is aggravating too.
Trump does have an aggravating personality.
Contrast that with the warm personality of Joe Biden who has been outrageously making things up out of thin air, starting well before he reached his dotage.
wheres the NYT link?
Theres always a NYT link.
my day is ruined
"Add to the fact that Biden is POTUS and has access to whatever he wants. He can order copies sent to his current office of whatever they found at his old office."
BUTTTTT...Biden WAS NOT President when he stole them. He was VP. He didn't have the power to take them UNLESS Saint Obama gave them to him...which would put Saint Obama in quite the pickle considering what he claimed about Trump.
Never worry- Gadfly will be along shortly to explain it all for us deplorables.
Agreed Ann, Trump is always his own aggravating factor.
Trump can be aggravating; that is certainly true. The rest is pure bullshit on steroids.
Brian said...
Every narrative against Donald Trump can be boiled down to "How Dare He!". The ultimate HDH was beating Hillary. It was pre-ordained.
It doesn't get talked about anymore but here's the thing...I had a hard time understanding the shocked looks on the top Democrats strategists that night.They're the one's who were supposed to have rune the numbers and known before the counting begun. I assumed it was just arrogance but with a bit of history I've come to believe they had the fraud machine in place and firmly believed the fix was in. The Pennsylvania and Virginia and Arizona counting machines were supposed to have it wrapped up but they failed.
They didn't let it happen the next time...
Never mind that a two-year probe conducted by Robert Mueller proved Democrats’ ‘Russian collusion’ conspiracy theory not to be true. Never mind that the recent release of Trump’s tax returns also showed it not to be true.
Now, even the Washington Post is saying it’s not true!
When Mueller came up empty-handed in 2019, disappointed Democrats still insisted that Russia had used trolls or bots on social media to steer the election toward Trump. Yet, the Washington Post’s Tim Starks reported on Monday (emphasis added), “Russian influence operations on Twitter in the 2016 presidential election reached relatively few users, most of whom were highly partisan Republicans, and the Russian accounts had no measurable impact in changing minds or influencing voter behavior, according to a study out this morning.”
Notice too that all the investigations are on ice right now.
Waiting for the election season to gear up.
@takirks
1000% this. Can confirm. I once saw a compartmentalized USAR 3953 for 10,000 gallon bottles of 409 cleaner.
My first thought was, "so that's what they did with all the VX." Singes the nostrils it does.
All the MSM reportage I've read and seen takes the trouble to detail how Biden's offense is different and less culpable than that of Trump's. I wonder how much blatant bias the MSM will have to engage in before reasonable people, even left leaning people, say enough. Quite a bit more apparently.
"There are differences in what happened. Well, we all know that Trump is a liar and a thief. It’s not that big a jump to say he obstructed and he lied. We don’t think Biden is a liar and a thief, so we give him the benefit of the doubt." -- Joy Behar
Trump is the scapegoat the political establishment loads with its own sins and casts out or sacrifices to preserve its own privileges. Lately, Nixon is beginning to look a little like that is well.
"- wilful mishandling of classified information,
- vast quantities of classified information to support an inference of misconduct,
- disloyalty to the United States and
- obstruction."
Now do Hillary's secret private, to avoid the law server.
YES
YES
no
YES
"Comey: but no evil intent"
President Donald J Trump continues ( by along shot ) to be the most law abiding president in my lifetime. And that is NOT hyperbole.
I no longer believe any story that has "experts say" in the sub-head.
When Mueller came up empty-handed in 2019, disappointed Democrats still insisted that Russia had used trolls or bots on social media to steer the election toward Trump.
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Yet, somehow, the FBI and other agencies pressuring social media to censor any debate over COVID or any discussion of the hunter Biden laptop is supposed to not have had any affect whatsoever.
I'm still stuck on the Penn Biden Center. Who knew a 'think tank' could be named after someone known for his lack of intellect?
Anyway- now we know the Penn Biden Center has been well funded, to the tune of millions of dollars by the Chinese, who told Biden way back when...that they could be like the Clinton Foundation, but without the fundraising needs. (the Chinese could bankroll the entire thing). Good to have friends in China. And Ukraine. And Iran??
It's interesting that the classified docs are regarding China, Iran, and Ukraine. Also interesting that Biden spent his last days as Veep flying over to Ukraine. No one does that. Especially then. Ukraine was nothing. A corrupt government with nothing of interest to the US...except for Joe, Hunter, and Jim Biden. They had an interest in a gas company there. And Joe went there, as his last act as Veep, to get the prosecutor investigating Hunter, removed via threats from the US. He was misrepresenting the USA and threatening Ukraine with loss of funding (back then) if they didn't remove that prosecutor. And we've all seen his pompous recount of that visit.
NO ONE as Veep visits a low priority country in their last weeks. Even the Ukrainian press was confused by all the attention they were getting.
And now we've sent BILLIONS of dollars and arms to that corrupt government, telling ourselves that we're weakening Russia by doing it. Really? I suspect we're paying back Ukraine for Biden's grift on that gas company. And who gets weakened by this? Russia was already weak. They are in the last throes of an aging oligarchy. A drunk and aging nation where the young clamor to leave. We weakened ourselves with all of this. Spent billions that we do not have, and now another generation further down the road is in hock before they are born. We seriously depleted our own weapon stocks. No problem for Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, etc. and the politicians they pay. And as the war we have paid for continues to drag on, there are the unforeseen circumstances that await us.
We don't know what Trump may have taken. But we do know there is so much staring at all of us from Biden's corrupt recent past and present. And all of the 'everybody does it' I'm now hearing from the press is glaringly short of answering the questions. That the Biden team suddenly decided to open this locked cabinet and- Voila!- found these docs, just after the House turned Republican, smells of trying to diffuse what they hoped would never come out.
It's out now. Let's all have a look, shall we?
Mike Cernovich's take:
"Biden’s lawyers found supposed classified documents and alerted DOJ. Sure thing. [wink wink meme]
The regime wants Trump to run, not to become a martyr by being indicted.
Muddying the water by finding Biden had classified docs gives DOJ a way out from its psycho blue anon base.
Just like our base wants Biden impeached, lmao a non starter, blue anon wants Trump indicted. A disaster for the regime but cable news and twitter demands it. Solution is say Biden had them too, have IG draw up new guidelines, and say going forward no more ooopsies allowed."
Trump is always wrong. What Trump does is always worse. If you think the MSM is ever going to get off that, you're wrong.
As Biden being impeached. The House should impeach him for failing to secure the border. In any case, the R's need to retaliate, or the D's will keep absuing the process every time there is a D House, and an R President. Of course, that's too absract for Conservatives, who pride themselves on being good losers. "We may lose, but we don't stoop to their level" they proudly announce.
Well, go ahead and lose then!
Broadly, the Department of Justice has typically pursued prosecutions when cases have involved a combination of four factors: wilful mishandling of classified information, vast quantities of classified information to support an inference of misconduct, disloyalty to the United States and obstruction. The criminal investigation into Trump touches on at least two of those elements – obstruction, where a person conceals documents with an intent to impede a government agency, and the volume of classified materials at Mar-a-Lago – unlike the Biden case, which appears to touch on none.
The Justice Department has stated it believes Trump kept the documents as mementos and not for disloyal purposes. The volume of documents Trump kept is unlikely to trigger prosecution because as president he had access to a wide range of classified material. That leaves obstruction as the sole avenue for criminal prosecution.
I know how Trumps files got to Florida and WHY HE THOUGHT it was ok.
What was the process and thinking for Biden?
Did he walk out of a meeting in a SCIF after putting the docs (multiple different meetings) in his briefcase?
did some staffer walk into the OEOB with TS/SCI and forget the docs?
I don't see any plausible reason Biden or a Staffer could take these docs, post VP
We seriously depleted our own weapon stocks. No problem for Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, etc. and the politicians they pay. And as the war we have paid for continues to drag on, there are the unforeseen circumstances that await us.
There is some evidence that Russia is winning and we are being lied to in order to continue the money flow to whoever is on the other end of this caper. I expect that senior politicians of both parties are at the end of the money stream.
Another distinction - Trump's documents were packaged and sent to Mar-A-Lago by the good folks at the National Archive. No one knows how the Biden docs got to the "locked closet," but it is confirmed that they were not sent by the National Archives.
"In the case of absolutely anything, it’s more serious for Trump than for anyone else on the planet, especially Democrats"
Fixed.
I doubt that either trove of classified documents included procurement of seltzer water, or whatever.
The difference seem to be in actions once documents became known. Seemingly Biden's minions found them and turned them over to proper custodians and kept their mouths shut (keeping quiet is correct, BTW). Clearly Trump and his minions kept trying to hide and obfuscate after being caught, and they are still at it.
But, as will be pointed out below, how the hell do I know, I wasn't there.
I'm with Michael K on this. No one should trust anything that we are hearing from the Security State on Ukraine. It might be true, but it also might be false. We can be sure that it supports the Security State agenda, which usually does not include peace.
Is it really in the interests of you and me to spend billions to bleed Russia white? It is not the USSR any more. What about the Europeans? Where are they? The Ukraine is their front yard. They are rich, too. Why don't they step up further?
Our power structures yearn for the days of the Cold War. But that was settled in the 1980s. What has happened since is the product a failure by successive US administrations and the Europeans to integrate Russia into Europe. Ukraine is a plaything for both Russia and the US. Obama was a captive of the the three-letter agencies because of his inexperience (see JFK and the Bay of Pigs invasion). Trump was a fool to stumble into Ukraine with that telephone call when he knew nothing about what was going on there. The Bidens are bought and paid-for. The Iraq War/Afghanistan was a revelation. Twenty years of futility with no goals.
Hillary Clinton had classified information in her possession on a private server, I understand there are normally classified documents among Obama's 11 million document library. Donald Trump had normally classified documents in his possession and now we learn Biden had classified documents in his post VP office. The locution parsing here is deliberate because at the time the documents were collected, both Obama and Trump, as POTUS, could declassify anything they wanted. Neither Hillary Clinton nor Biden had that power.
Gee, I thought an aggravating factor is that Trump through his lawyers denied under oath having records in response to a grand jury subpoena, necessitating the later search.
Poor Trump. A career criminal since the 80s and he has yet to spend one day behind bars. Even I almost feel sorry for the guy.
Did we miss the ACTUAL reasons for tRump's case being more serious? Or are we just happy to throw red meat to the MAGAt grumble?
Four Factors: wilful mishandling of classified information, vast quantities of classified information to support an inference of misconduct, disloyalty to the United States and obstruction.
Amadeus 48 -- "What has happened since is the product a failure by successive US administrations and the Europeans to integrate Russia into Europe." Assuming you are correct, is that a justification for Russia's invasion? Is that a reason for us to do nothing now? The stability of Europe is critical for the U.S. interests economic and otherwise. I recall that the last two World Wars started in Europe. A stable Europe means we can focus more of our attention on China. And if we allow Russia to eat up Ukraine and take control of its vast resources, do you really think they will stop there? Russia is the biggest country in the world but for them it is never enough for them.
The only way for Russia to learn to live peacefully with the free world is for them to lose this war. That's my opinion anyway.
Look.. The Facts of the Matter Are:
a) Trump is NOT a democrat (or, a RINO).. That means He is an Enemy of the Party
b) Biden, and Hilary! and Sandy whatshisname were ALL members of the Party (high ranking members!)
This Means, that ANYTHING (and Every Thing) that Trump did, was ILLEGAL and TREASONOUS!!!
And that ANYTHING (Every Thing) that Biden and Hilary! did was COMPLETELY Above board.
It is a Crime, against the State; to be against the democrat party.. ALL KNOW THIS.
LONG LIVE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!! LONG LIVE THE DEEP STATE!!! LONG LIVE BIG BROTHER!
jim5301 said...
The only way for Russia to learn to live peacefully with the free world is for them to lose this war.
So... What's going to happen then; when they Don't lose?
Specifically; what would 'lose' mean?
The aggravating factor is..Truuuuuuummmmmmpppppp!!!!
AA takes pride in her careful exegesis of writings and statements she happens across, but then has huge blind spot for Trump, whose Truth Social reactions today confirm what is plain as can be: He's a nutter.
Neither Trump nor Biden would be prosecuted in a million years for happening to have classified docs found in their possession after leaving office. If Trump is prosecuted that would not be the charge. It's AA who is laughable in her unique treatment of Trump. Has and would never vote for him but treats him like lovable Scamp.
I also had a Top Secret/Special Access Program clearance for several projects. In some projects, we could downgrade documents to unclassified status as long as two subject matter experts agreed and filled out the proper forms. We could write CDs with the documents, but the documents had to be plain text or jpgs. No Word, Excel or Powerpoint files because text could be hidden with the proper formatting.
For other programs, downgrading was forbidden and no CDs could be written. Anything electronic content brought into the program spaces could never be removed.
Cell phones were forbidden, even turned off phones because of the possibility that the microphones could be turned on without the owner ever knowing that. Lockers were provided to store the phones while we were in the program areas. Even so, sometimes people would forget, and bring phones in. Bring a phone in could either be an infraction if there was no data spill or a violation if there was a data spill.
Hillary Clinton had an obligation to protect classified information. She didn't give a damn. It's unclear if she ever attended the training for handling classified information. She deliberately spilled classified data, which at minimum is gross negligence and is prosecutable, despite what James Comey said. She didn't directly hand over data to our adversaries, but her carelessness had the same effect. You can bet the Chinese and Russians had malware on her homebrew server. A server deliberately setup to evade the public records act.
The difference seem to be in actions once documents became known. Seemingly Biden's minions found them and turned them over to proper custodians and kept their mouths shut (keeping quiet is correct, BTW). Clearly Trump and his minions kept trying to hide and obfuscate after being caught, and they are still at it.
Not sure whether this is factually the case or not, but the people trying to distinguish between Trump and Biden seem to be arguing that the actual taking of classified documents is okay, so long as one is contrite and cooperative once they get caught. Pretty sure that is not how the law is actually written.
The difference seem to be in actions once documents became known. Seemingly Biden's minions found them and turned them over to proper custodians and kept their mouths shut (keeping quiet is correct, BTW). Clearly Trump and his minions kept trying to hide and obfuscate after being caught, and they are still at it.
Not sure whether this is factually the case or not, but the people trying to distinguish between Trump and Biden seem to be arguing that the actual taking of classified documents is okay, so long as one is contrite and cooperative once they get caught. Pretty sure that is not how the law is actually written.
Imagine how things would be if we had a squalid, squanderous, dishonest ruling class. It's actually pretty easy to imagine that, isn't it? Not much of a stretch at all.
Maybe it's always been this way, and I'm just one of the slow learners.
So, following a multitremester cover-up by the resources of record, The Guardian is braying that President Obama is responsible for Vice President Biden's betrayals and bribes.
Feel free to provide an example, quote, link or anything to support your SOP drive-by postings, rendering.
Again, rules for all or rules for none. Not rules for some.
If you leftists insist on rules for some? You will get rules for none.
And you won't like it.
But you'll deserve it.
I doubt that Joe Biden really wants to prosecute Donald Trump in the documents case. For one, even a small risk of losing the case is too great, as it would exponentially increase the aggravating factor that is Donald Trump. But Biden has delegated that decision to other people who are getting a lot of pressure to do it. So he sent his lawyers out to find some classified documents in his own possession from his previous stint as Vice President. What a clever way to release the pressure.
Readering said...
"Neither Trump nor Biden would be prosecuted in a million years for happening to have classified docs found in their possession after leaving office. If Trump is prosecuted that would not be the charge. It's AA who is laughable in her unique treatment of Trump. Has and would never vote for him but treats him like lovable Scamp."
So far he is a lovable scamp. Because everything that you have done to confound him has blown up in your face. He is the only only arch villain who hasn't done anything, well, vile. I think what you have is an emotional distaste for Trump. No matter what he does it will never be to your liking. But our nations grandpa, who you voted for, can commit any manner of fuck ups and you're just fine with that.
Kepp in mind. This war in Ukraine was promoted by Biden, not Trump. All this expense, destruction and misery is on you.
“Has and would never vote for him but treats him like lovable Scamp.”
Trump still needs people who will still see him as a lovable nutter. Don’t know if that is accurate in Althouse’s case, but it does seem to dismiss any seriousness of Trump’s misconduct.
Lucky Thing for Biden, that there No Law against democrats misusing classified docs
Biden aides find another batch of classified documents at different location: report
“I don’t know what’s in the documents,” the president said..
"I don't even know what's in my pockets... Hell; I don't know if i had breakfast this morning."
"You had Grape Nuts and Toast.. They were good." Said Dr Jill Biden, the President's caretaker.
"Oh, that's right" said the President, "I Always have Grape Nuts.. And they tell me, i Always like them."
Jim at: "If you leftists insist on rules for some? You will get rules for none."
If you leftists and GOPe-ers insist on rules for some? You will get rules for none.
FIFY
More classified documents found.
Indict!
Readering: "Neither Trump nor Biden would be prosecuted in a million years for happening to have classified docs found in their possession after leaving office. If Trump is prosecuted that would not be the charge."
You moron lefties were screaming with one voice that not only should Trump be arrested for those documents that he legally possessed, unlike your god-hero Biden, but that Trump should literally be EXECUTED for treason!
Or is this the day when the gaslighting reverses and you buffoons begin to claim that you never made a big deal about those documents at all in the same way you pretend to never have pushed russia collusion lies and never really considered the Hillary/FBI Hoax Dossier all that important?
Joe Biden will say "That's not mine! I don't know how those doc got in my pants! I borrowed these pants from my best bud, Barrack. Those docs must be his!"
The Guardian? Now isn't that special!
Good Lord!
The Trump hating lefties here are simply living in the same fantasy world as Joe Biden.
The Mar a Lago raid was a combination of harassment and trying to find something incriminating. That backfired, but Trump's favorability ratings did not go up. People were more upset with the FBI/Stasi fascist state under Biden.
The Dems need Trump to run because he cannot win in 2024. That's why they pulled off the Biden classified documents caper. It is to give Trump a better chance of running because DeSantis scares them.
THere's a double standard in DC and everyone knows it. DC Juries will hang any republican and let any Democrat go for the slightest of reasons. The Federal Judges are stacked with partisan Demcorats. The DoJ, except for a thin layer at the top during an R Presidental adminsitration is 90 percent Democrat. We assumed the FBI was "Conservative" until TRump came along, now we know its like the rest of the DOJ.
So, Garland doesn't have send down orders to go after Republicans and leave the D's alone. The lower level DOJ/FBI does that on their own. Plus, the Republican Senators are complete wussies interested only in pleasing the big Donors. They never fight back or say anything. Or if they do, its a feeble effort that goes nowhere.
"Penn has received more than $50 million from anonymous Chinese donors...Were those donors peering at the classified documents, the national secrets, that Joe Biden had been stashing at the fake think tank that Penn set up for him?" - Tucker Carlson
Just to be clear, there is a request memorialized on Hunter's laptop to cut a set of keys for a Chinese "businessman" to have access to the office where the documents, containing classified information relating to China was kept.
I agree with everything takirks said about classification. However, sometimes looking at seemingly unrelated open information can reveal a very hidden piece of TS/SCI information. Requires connecting dots, abd requires realizing the dots can connected.
I had a theory about something, and found myself nect to an colonel who had a TS/SCI clearance. Explained my theory to him. He didn't even acknowledge hearing it. Just continued talking about our previous subject of conversation as if I had never said anything. After a sudden eye blink and visble head jerk. Confirmed I was right. I was retired from active duty by then, and my theory was based on dates and dot connections, all in newspapers, magazines, and on the internet.
"The Trump hating lefties here are simply living in the same fantasy world as Joe Biden."
The world where they shit in a toilet rather than in a diaper?
The dullard weighs in:
Trump still needs people who will still see him as a lovable nutter. Don’t know if that is accurate in Althouse’s case, but it does seem to dismiss any seriousness of Trump’s misconduct.
Trump's "misconduct" seems to be defeating Hillary and withstanding all the left's attempts to find something illegal in his life. He was a good president in spite of all you ankle biters. Now you got your senile Potemkin President and the country is going to shit, rapidly.
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