So said somebody about Ron DeSantis — I'm reading that in some unedifying NYT essay — but I just wanted to say: Isn't that an apt description of everyone who's won the presidency in the last 60 years?
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"... he apparently has no core beliefs other than the unshakable conviction that he should sit in the Oval Office."
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A lot of other core convictions beside sitting in the oval office include making a lot of money to support a lavish post-presidency lifestyle, getting invited to really fancy celebrity parties, setting up a dynasty for other family members to also sit in the oval office.
Yes, and after only reading the headline; I thought it was about Biden.
No, cynical person, it's not.
President doesn't pay well for the talent it needs, except for any corruption of course.
Can you think of any Mr. Smith goes to Washington type who has been president in the last hundred years?
Well it’s certainly been true of Joseph Biden.
No. We'll exclude Ford who only won one vote. Although all elected presidents changed their positions, I think they all had core beliefs, even the ones I didn't support.
Reagan was the last president with a cognizable set of core beliefs.
Also amazingly true of Hillary Clinton.
Eugene McCarthy called Ronald Reagan, "...the only man since Harry Truman who won't confuse the job with the man."
"core beliefs". Sounds like the mark of some hack who thinks that formulas are more important than looking at issues.
"Isn't that an apt description of everyone who's won the presidency in the last 60 years?"
No. Reagan was different.
But what's it gonna be, progs: DeSantis has no core beliefs, or he has rabid core beliefs that make him the next Hitler?
Semantic stasis... change. #HateLovesAbortion
And that's a BAD thing? Belief has slaughtered endless millions.
God forbid when faced with a problem any President should look to solve problems without checking the Party Handbook.
That's a hanging curve that's hittable above or below the Mendoza line.
1. Project much?
2. it worked in 2020.
3. ...you say that like it's a bad thing.
Last 62 years.
Even if he says the only reason he’s running is because he’s in no way involved with the current administration, that would seem a winning strategy.
He could literally shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and his poll numbers would go up..
Fortunately for anyone on Fifth Avenue he wouldn’t be caught dead on Fifth Avenue…
Well, you get my point…
Isn't that an apt description of everyone who's won the presidency in the last 60 years?
And at least one who lost the presidency in 2016!
If you are going to assert no President in the last 60 years had any "core beliefs" whatsoever outside of holding office, how can you be so sure about the previous 60 years? Or any time frame in American history?
"We disagree with this man's core beliefs; therefore they do not exist. QED."
Isn't that an apt description of everyone who's won the presidency in the last 60 years?
No.
It only seems that way when you can't understand what that person is trying to do.
Some people do not make much of an effort to understand other people.
He must be stopped.
He will be the worst thing since Reagan, Bush, Trump and of course Hitler.
"Isn't that an apt description of everyone who's won the presidency in the last 60 years?"
No. "No core beliefs"? That's a pretty high bar.
I think "Lack of core beliefs" pretty much describes Bush I, Nixon, Ford, LBJ, JFK, and Obama. I don't think it describes Reagan or Bush II. George Bush really believed in all that globalist, make the world safe for Democracy crap, in his 2nd inaugeral. And he REALLY believes in open borders and Amnesty. He was still pushing it in 2021. And Reagan really believed in fighting the evil empire.
Tell me about the core beliefs of the Current Occupant.
Eisenhower said a president needed two qualities. He needed a "fire in the belly" and he needed to "be able to ride the horse." Slo Joe's fire is dwindling and he has has long since fallen off.
No- not at all.
It’s a core goal, to sit in the Oval Office.
Beliefs are not goals.
Given the “source” is the NYTs, though… totally understandable.
That was exactly my thought, Ann. I might exempt Ike and push it back to 110 years. I might also give Reagan a 50% exemption. Or less.
Bill Clinton is the Kong of this one. Such extraordinary political gifts who achieved power and had no idea what he wanted to do with it.
Just imagine Joe Biden’s thought bubble.
Quick--name some of Dopey Joe's core beliefs!
I would not say that is a fair description. He believes in personal choice (including parental rights) within a framework of public order. He's been very consistent, pragmatic and effective. I always know where he's going to come down on an issue and I always feel he understands the arguments of people who disagree.
60 years takes us back to Goldwater who certainly did have core principles. While I think Lyndon Johnson was a terrible person and a bad president, I think he did have a core principal that the government should control the economy and help the poor. Nixon resigned rather than tear the country apart. Carter believed in a moral foreign policy - which was principled if not useful. Reagan certainly had core principles. GHW Bush is the only politician I know of who lost office by voting for the Voting Rights Act on principal. Both he and his son suffered for treating their opposition as if they were operating in good faith as a matter of principle. I'll give you Clinton, Gore, Dole, Obama, Kerry, McCain and Biden as lacking core principles. Romney's got them but they're wrong (see Carter). Trump is such an odd fellow, I'm not sure.
"But what's it gonna be, progs: DeSantis has no core beliefs, or he has rabid core beliefs that make him the next Hitler?"
Either, as necessary to carry the narrative.
I meant to include JFK.
And not Ford, who never *won* the presidency.
I can't/won't read the NYT (it ONCE was a great newspaper), so I don't know if the person who made that slur of DeSantis offered any support for it. From a distance (NC) I saw a FL Governor who was willing to defy the Federal Establishment about Covid and adopted policies for his State that didn't make the epidemic worse and caused less collateral damage than the policies followed by many other States. I've lived in both NY and FL, and given a choice between the two I'd have picked FL to live in during the pandemic.
"Quick--name some of Dopey Joe's core beliefs!"
He strongly believes in getting his 10%.
"That's a hanging curve that's hittable above or below the Mendoza line."
That is an example of inside baseball I will hold and cherish. I can only assume that this shows that the Mendoza line is non-causal for the level of Hittability.
he apparently has no core beliefs other than the unshakable conviction that he should sit in the Oval Office.""
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just like Putin thinks to occupy Kremlin for life.
in future every R is Putin
Well, after Obama and especially after Biden, I have an unshakeable core belief that no Democrat should ever be allowed into the Oval Office except as a visitor or a janitor.
I can’t seem to find the quote now, but I recollect someone saying that folksy Jimmy Carter would “tear your arm off” if you got between him and the White House.
Not fer nothin, Donald Trump became president because of his interests in trade and immigration. He was a successful citizen that actually wanted to give back to his beloved country. I didn’t see that in 2016, but crimies, how anybody hasn’t figured that out by now is to their shame. So he’s a douchebag? Who cares? Evil
People. That’s who.
Bill Clinton is the Kong of this one. Such extraordinary political gifts who achieved power and had no idea what he wanted to do with it.
He wanted to score some ladies, didn't seem to particularly care what policies were enacted under his watch.
Yes, please tell us all about Joe Biden's "core beliefs".
Without checking wikipedia (which has it right, but only barely), who coined the phrase "Mendoza Line"?
"Isn't that an apt description of everyone who's won the presidency in the last 60 years?"
In a word: Yes.
"Donald Trump became president because of his interests in trade and immigration. He was a successful citizen that actually wanted to give back to his beloved country."
Boy, he saw you comin' for a country mile!
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But what's it gonna be, progs: DeSantis has no core beliefs, or he has rabid core beliefs that make him the next Hitler?
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Silly boy. It is going to be BOTH.
No, Reagan had a true north star. Review his speech for Goldwater in 1964.
You should have done a poll with the headline and no other information, then ask who they were talking about. My first thought was Biden, then I thought Trump, then I thought Hillary, but then I read DeSantis before I could include Obama and others. Reagan had a core set of beliefs. Everyone else of the last 50 years? Not so much.
Can someone tell me why we should believe someone published in the NYT about DeSantis' core beliefs or lack thereof?
The Left in the US has one core belief: all power should go to us.
As such, they're not capable of recognizing a core belief in anyone else, and would lie about it if they did see one.
I'll entertain offers for claims about Democrats actual "core beliefs", if someone wants to offer any.
Here's what appears to be one of Ron's core beliefs: that parents, not public employees, are and should be the ultimate deciders about their children, and that in any conflict between parents and public employees, absent criminal behavior by the parents, the parents should always win
I note the Left hates this belief. But that doesn't make it not exist
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