१५ ऑक्टोबर, २०२१

"The difference between is that Carter was a bumbling fool. Biden is destroying this country on purpose."

That's the most-responded-to comment at a WaPo column by Marc A. Thiessen called "It’s the 1970s all over again, and Joe Biden is the new Jimmy Carter." 

That commenter says: "The headline for this piece is all wrong. Biden is nothing like Carter. He is much much worse. He is trying to make this country into a socialist communist place." 

From the column: 
Biden’s energy policy is not only hostile, it is incoherent.... Under Trump, the United States became an energy superpower.... In just a few short months, [Biden] has brought us back to where we were in the Carter years — pleading with a foreign oil cartel to increase production rather than increasing production ourselves. 
During the 1970s, when America was locked in a twilight struggle with Soviet communism, what did the left demand? Nuclear disarmament. It took the election of a new president, Ronald Reagan, who launched a massive nuclear buildup, to secure our position as the world’s preeminent nuclear superpower and win the Cold War. 
Well today, America has become the world’s preeminent energy superpower. And what is the left demanding? Energy disarmament....

The most liked comment over there is: 

As usual, republicans think it's cool to insult a man for being a decent human being. 

IF the US had listened to President Carter and taken modest steps to reduce our energy consumption we NEVER would have been involved in conflicts in the middle east to protect wealthy oil producing nations to preserve our oil supply. 

WE could have owned the solar panel and wind turbine industry. 

WE could have helped keep greenhouse gases lower. 

WE could have thriving green energy jobs. 

Remember when Reagan removed the solar panels from the WH rooftop? It was one of the first things he did. 

Subsidizing big oil was more important than being a decent human being.

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Owen म्हणाले...

One screen. Two movies.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

Of course that’s the most liked comment . It’s pure fantasy. Childish dreaming of the world as it would if only those dastardly Republicans would play along.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

As usual, republicans think it's cool to insult a man for being a decent human being.

One can be a decent human being and still be competent at one’s job. Based on information I have seen since the Reagan years, I question Jimmy Carter’s alleged decency. But there is no question that he was absolutely incompetent as President, and wildly in over his head. One need only look at his response to the Soviet invasion of of Afghanistan. Who did he punish? America’s young athletes, by pulling the US out of the Olympic Games of 1980. Our young athletes lost everything they had worked and sacrificed for, all for an empty gesture that bothered the Soviet Union hardly at all.

Also for the record, in the 21st century there is no such thing as a Democrat who is a decent human being. Zero. None. Maybe Manchin on one of his better days. Or Sinema on a good day. As more and more information leaks out about the case of the father dragged out of the Loudoun school board meeting the worse the Democrats come off. The Loudoun school officials told him to his face that there had never been a case of a trans female abusing the privilege of using the girls’ rest rooms, even though there was a police report and confirmation via a rape kit. I infer that you, Althouse, are adopting your favored “cruel neutrality” stance on biological males using the girls’ rest rooms — well you are cruel, indeed, if you are willing to overlook a raped teenager — anally raped — in support of feminist Intersectionality, or whatever other worthless excuse you offer for not standing up to the insanity that is the 21st century Democrat Party.

rastajenk म्हणाले...

I have yet to see any evidence that F. Joe Biden is a decent human being.

RMc म्हणाले...

"Remember when Reagan removed the solar panels from the WH rooftop? It was one of the first things he did."

Nope. Reagan removed them in 1986 because of a roof leak and decided not to reinstall them.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

@RMc, the Democrats believe that “it was one of the first things he did” and so it must be. The world must conform to their belief system, not the other way around.

mishu म्हणाले...

One need only look at his response to the Soviet invasion of of Afghanistan.

It's worse than the reaction. The Carter Administration provoked the Soviets into invading Afghanistan thanks to its national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski. Sure that invasion put economic stress on the Soviet Union but it was eventually going to collapse anyway. All it did was puff up the egos of some muslims like bin Laden and, next thing you know, there were two big holes in the ground where skyscrapers once stood.

wendybar म्हणाले...

rastajenk said...
I have yet to see any evidence that F. Joe Biden is a decent human being.

10/15/21, 6:16 AM

Hear!! Hear!! There are PLENTY of real life stories of Trump helping people out. For example... It's too bad people like Jennifer Hudson doesn't stick up for the guy who took her family in and gave them a place to live after some of her family members got murdered. Would JOE do that?? I can list others, but this is a well known woman. https://www.today.com/popculture/trump-takes-jennifer-hudson-family-wbna27667541

Seamus म्हणाले...

"Also for the record, in the 21st century there is no such thing as a Democrat who is a decent human being. Zero. None. Maybe Manchin on one of his better days. Or Sinema on a good day."

Tulsi Gabbard seems like a decent human being.

But yeah, run of the mill Dems like Schumer, Pelosi, Durbin, Harris, etc. seem like they were pulled from the "psychopath" file at Central Casting.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

Did Carter have a Brandon to Let's Go?

MountainMan म्हणाले...

US energy consumption per dollar of GDP has been steadily declining for over 30 years and will continue to do so.

To tie back to your later post on the "hyper-educated" this is a good example of someone lacking information that can be easily obtained in about 60 seconds with a simple internet search. US also about the only country in the world that has significantly reduced CO2 emissions.

Achilles म्हणाले...

"As usual, republicans think it's cool to insult a man for being a decent human being. IF the US had listened to President Carter and taken modest steps to reduce our energy consumption we NEVER would have been involved in conflicts in the middle east to protect wealthy oil producing nations to preserve our oil supply. WE could have owned the solar panel and wind turbine industry. WE could have helped keep greenhouse gases lower. WE could have thriving green energy jobs. Remember when Reagan removed the solar panels from the WH rooftop? It was one of the first things he did. Subsidizing big oil was more important than being a decent human being."


Democrats are all just stupid people.

Wince म्हणाले...

Remember when Reagan removed the solar panels from the WH rooftop? It was one of the first things he did.

If I remember correctly, it was 1986 (near the end of Reagan's term) and those were solar hot water panels, a technology junked and used basically nowhere today.

michaele म्हणाले...

For me, one of the biggest differences between Carter and Biden as president is the I never had concerns that Carter was suffering from diminished mental capacity. With Biden, we have a behind the scenes committee acting as president and they trot him out to read from the giant teleprompter that is placed in front of him. Frankly, as a service to the American people, the media should show wide shots which include it when he's standing at the podium and making pronouncement to the American people. No wonder he turns and walks away so quickly from the press nowadays without taking any questions. When the words aren't on the screen, we see they sure aren't in his head.

Another old lawyer म्हणाले...

I doubt Biden has sufficient mental competency to have the agency to make decisions where we could tell if he was a decent human being.

Regardless, whoever is making the decisions in the White House is neither competent nor decent.

gilbar म्हणाले...

i just finished a(nother)book about the cold war. And the author mentions that Carter's people
a)realized the arms race was driving the USSR to bankruptcy
b) THEREFORE, determined that it was IMPERATIVE that we agree to arms limitation treaties
c) BECAUSE, If we didn't; the USSR would collapse, and that would be 'un-stabilizing'

Democrats see a problem, then see a solution... Then work HARD to eliminate the solution

michaele म्हणाले...

For me, one of the biggest differences between Carter and Biden as president is that I never had concerns that Carter was suffering from diminished mental capacity. With Biden, we have a behind the scenes committee acting as president and they trot him out to read from the giant teleprompter that is placed in front of him. Frankly, as a service to the American people, the media should show wide shots which include it when he's standing at the podium and making pronouncement to the American people. No wonder he turns and walks away so quickly from the press nowadays without taking any questions. When the words aren't on the screen, we see they sure aren't in his head.

Leland म्हणाले...

With Carter, we only protected the wealthy monarchs of oil producing nations while starting the tradition of leaving Americans in country to be held hostage.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Big Mike said...
the Loudoun school officials told him to his face that there had never been a case...


To be fair; the school officials told him THEY had NO RECORD of a case
Which was true. The school officials had made a point, of NOT logging such things.
The Police had records; but school officials were working Very Hard at being blissfully ignorant

Howard म्हणाले...

Sure the inflation economy was a bitch but everyday life was awesome in the late '70s. Like I said yesterday malaise lives in the heart of the week sister complaining class.

This week of New England indigenous peoples summer has been spectacular. The water was back up to 70° at Walden last night wetsuits not required.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

Carter’s decency is as suspect as Biden’s, though his kids turned out OK. But he was widely despised in Georgia, and it’s hard to understand how he wormed his way to the top of the Democrats, setting Republican stupor aside. In retrospect, Carter’s affection for Marxist dictators reveals someone far more radical and self-absorbed than people realized at the time. He was the first warning we had of a post-Kennedy Democratic Party (LBJ was a one off, thank God) that essentially despises America and desires centralized power and control.

Anyone know the percentage of power use generated by those White House solar panels? Probably about as much as the percentage of food generated by Michelle Obama’s “garden.” And, one might add, the percentage of time new daddy Buttigeig has put into solving our dire supply chain issues.

Do women in high ranking political jobs who actually carried and gave birth to a baby get three months of paid maternity leave? If so, could they afford the optics of actually taking it?

Kevin म्हणाले...

Nope. Reagan removed them in 1986 because of a roof leak and decided not to reinstall them.

So Carter put up solar panels without first installing a new roof.

That sounds like the Democrats.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"The difference between is that Carter was a bumbling fool. Biden is destroying this country on purpose."

We have a winner.

For the moment, Dems still face a dilemma: defend their destruction by saying the U.S. is so evil it deserves destruction, or appeal to "moderate" voters by presenting their destruction as really benefitting the country "we" love.

sphilben म्हणाले...

Carter's "solar panels" were not energy producing panels, they were hot water making panels. Or, lukewarm water making panels. So they are not really in the same league as today's electricity producing solar panels.

And it wasn't "one of the first things he did." (One of the first things he did was get Carter's Iran hostages back.) He took office in 1981, the panels came down (to do roof fixing) in 1986.

Mike Sylwester म्हणाले...

I doubt that President Reagan ever had anything at all to do with any solar panels on the White House roof.

mikee म्हणाले...

Carter had his problems, but he knew when to abandon all touchy feely pretension for his own welfare. Biden couldn't protect himself or his canoe from an angry rabbit using both paddles and the 82nd Airborne.

mccullough म्हणाले...

Most solar panels are Made in China.

That’s why a lot of politicians push for them.

MikeR म्हणाले...

"The most liked comment..." Followed by a lot of statements whose only problem is that they aren't true.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Carter was well-meaning and actually had Foreign policy beliefs based on principles. People forget he was a DC outsider, and people like Ted Kennedy hated his guts. ABC News ran nightly updates on the Iranian hostage crisis, which means they didn't like Carter either. Biden on the other hand is the ultimate swamp creature. He blows off the press, doesn't answer questions, and the Press says "Ok, master".

The Democrat party of 1976-1980 would never have nominated Joe Biden. Now, its completly full of sheep like libtards.

Temujin म्हणाले...

I love this comment: "WE could have owned the solar panel and wind turbine industry."

You still can! No one else has figured it out since Jimmy Carter's days. That's 44 years ago. Back then, solar was too expensive, materials to make them rare and hard to get, replacement and what to do with the chemicals from the panels, a problem. Move forward to today- we have the same problems.

And here's the fun part: Wind Turbines are even less efficient, and will require even more drastic steps to deal with the waste of old blades and turbines. And cost-wise, both are still less productive means of power than any fossil fuel. They cost more and produce less.

Anyway...I'm just tilting at windmills here.

Chris-2-4 म्हणाले...

You know, it's become popular to joke that the staff is pumping Joe Biden UP with drugs so that he can function in public.

But what if their pumping him DOWN with drugs so they can control everything?

#BoomMindBlown

hombre म्हणाले...

Carter meant well. Can anybody argue that QuidProJoe means anything? He is a doddering old grifter whose strings are being pulled by recycled Obots, Bernie Bros. and other moonbats. There is no actual legitimate governance occurring just a relentless push toward the misery that opens the door to communism, featuring open borders, inflation, energy shortages, supply chain interruptions and a protracted pandemic and it’s incidental repression. Manufactured political optics by the leftmediaswine keep his ignoramus base in line while normals marvel at the insanity.

Meanwhile, Republicans solicit our money offering the hope that enough will be left over after their own grifting to overcome Democrat voter fraud and that a Republican takeover will stop the leftist avalanche. Trump understood. They don’t!

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

I don't trust politicians who are forever talking about their own decency. Politicians have to make difficult decisions, that will please and benefit some people and displease and disadvantage other people. That responsibility ought to make politicians more modest.

When I hear too much about somebody's fundamental decency, I can't help thinking that they are trying to cover up what they are actually doing, and I'd rather trust people who did the best they could without telling us about how righteous and moral they are.

I also don't go in for the loves America/hates and wants to destroy America thing, either. Carter came out of an earlier age when patriotism was taken for granted. And he did take it for granted and didn't give it much thought. He said what politicians were expected to say back then and even felt what people were expected to feel back then, but how much difference did that make in his policies.

Politics today takes place on a different plane (or maybe a different planet) than ordinary love of country and desire for the well-being of one's fellow citizens. So I don't think Biden is consciously trying to destroy the country. Biden's team takes the country's continued existence and its position in the world for granted and tries to impose an agenda of their own on it. Do they "mean well"? Does it really matter if they do?

Big Mike म्हणाले...

WE could have helped keep greenhouse gases lower.

Serious question. Can anyone name any other country that reduced greenhouse gas emissions as much as the US did under Donald Trump?

Michelle Dulak Thomson म्हणाले...

I have come round to the view that Carter wasn't so bad a President, given the hand he was dealt. (Not a bad ex-President either, apart from his incessant harping on the Israeli-Palestinian situation.) Withdrawing Americans from the 1980 Olympics sucked for the athletes, yes (the USSR did the same in 1984, and I don't remember anyone here complaining about the injustice to their athletes). He brokered that decent-ish Sadat/Begin deal, and it's hardly his fault that the usual Muslim crazies killed Sadat over it.

The economy was in terrible shape when he got it, largely thanks to Nixon, who inaugurated the EPA and instituted wage and price controls and so forth. I'm not sure what any new President is supposed to do when presented with an existing "command economy," and Carter's choices were no worse than anyone else's would have been.

On foreign policy, he might be faulted for paying zero attention to Cambodia -- except that everyone was paying zero attention to Cambodia, just as everyone in the Clinton years paid zero attention to Rwanda until the carnage was all safely over. I am not sure how Reagan would've done better; indeed, I can't recall Cambodia even being an issue in the 1980 campaign. We had a lot of other stuff to worry about.

But whoever up above said this spoke truly: Carter got stuff wrong, but Biden is deliberately getting stuff wrong, and a dismaying amount of that is stuff he's undoing purely because Trump did it. For a "fundamentally decent man," he sure does spend a lot of time operating out of naked spite. Assuming, of course, that he's doing the operating.

gadfly म्हणाले...

Let me pick on just one of Mark Thiessen's poor suppositions:

"Gas prices have risen $1 a gallon since Joe Biden’s election, while crude oil prices have doubled since November to $83 per barrel. . . . Biden has made clear his intention to tax and regulate the fossil fuel industry out of existence."

​But as Investopedia points out, unlike most commodities priced for all consumers worldwide, "oil prices are not determined entirely by supply, demand, and market sentiment toward the physical product. Rather, supply, demand, and sentiment toward oil futures contracts, which are traded heavily by speculators, play a dominant role in price determination. Cyclical trends in the commodities market may also play a role. Regardless of how the price is ultimately determined, based on its use in fuels and countless consumer goods, it appears that oil will continue to be in high demand for the foreseeable future."

Obviously, Biden has not raised fossil fuel taxes at all in his nine months in office and it likely will matter little or not at all whether he does or does not. Let me remind you that when Trump significantly boosted consumer prices through his nutsy tariff war, nary a bad word was spoken by the GOP.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

Carter meant well? Carter was taking on the bad people in Congress?

Have any of you ever read his eight autobiographies? I did. Have at, you fools.

We won’t even discuss how many tax dollars were spent to publish his several tomes of excreable poetry.

Drago म्हणाले...
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Drago म्हणाले...

Tina Trent: "Carter’s decency is as suspect as Biden’s, though his kids turned out OK. But he was widely despised in Georgia, and it’s hard to understand how he wormed his way to the top of the Democrats, setting Republican stupor aside."

He was pre-selected to be "the man" by the dem insiders who wanted someone viewed as the opposite of Nixon as well as someone who who would help the dem insiders wrest control of the dem party back from the radicals who changed the rules that paved the way for McGovern in 1972. Recall that Gary Hartpence was McGovern's campaign manager.

In 1976, this was actually a solid "inside/outside" strategy.

A southern, moderate Christian who would be juxtaposed against a President who was appointed, not elected, to fill that slot after a resignation in disgrace of the previous President and the 1972 electorate rejection of the radical McGovern wing of the dems.

It was a whirlwind media "op" and it worked like a charm as the usual media suspects all got on board with the selection and played Carter up. Thus, the No Name Governor from GA sweeps in out of nowhere and rolls to the dem nomination after an early and then sustained media blitz.

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

Fernandinande said...
Did Carter have a Brandon to Let's Go?


No, but he had a Cotter to Welcome Back.

Drago म्हणाले...

The Poor Man's LLR Chuck gadfly: "Obviously, Biden has not raised fossil fuel taxes at all in his nine months in office and it likely will matter little or not at all whether he does or does not. Let me remind you that when Trump significantly boosted consumer prices through his nutsy tariff war, nary a bad word was spoken by the GOP."

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

LLR Chuck and Howard: There is no inflation

The Poor Man's LLR Chuck gadfly: There is inflation but its not Biden's fault

Jen Psaki (just today): There is inflation and its a good thing.

Ron Klain (just yesterday): There is inflation but its only a problem for the wealthy!

You lefties really should get together and develop a little consistency with your lies.

अनामित म्हणाले...

I don't trust politicians who are forever talking about their own decency.


“The louder he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons.”

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

Thanks, Drago. All true, according to older Georgia lobbyists I know and researching the Carter Center. Bunch of thugs making excuses for other thugs. It’s the SPLC of presidential libraries.

Even though I culturally feel like a grumpy 72 year old man most of the time, what I mainly remember of the Carter presidency was having to wear a really embarrassing colonial outfit to accept some award at the Montgomery Wards by the Hudson River. And the printed toilet paper which seemed inappropriate, to say the least.

Georgia was another world, another galaxy away. Who were these people? Why all the stuff about peanuts? And his sister was really weird.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Lurker21 म्हणाले...

The difference between the Carter years and today is that there wasn't as much anti-elitism -- or as much elitism -- as there is today. There was some anti-elitism on the left: radicals angry at the CIA, the FBI, and the military industrial complex, Naderites campaigning against Big Oil and the auto companies, blue collar Democrats griping about the bosses. There was also a growing anti-elitism on the right, as seen in the Nixon and Reagan campaigns. But there wasn't an alliance of big business, Wall Street, the news media, Hollywood, tech companies, bureaucrats, liberals, the intelligence agencies, radicals, and the Democratic Part. Anti-elitism was muted because elitism was more muted and the elites were more divided between the two parties.

Carter could claim to be more representative of the country than middle class Joe from Scranton because the country was more united in the Seventies and because he had spent less time in Washington DC. America was a more egalitarian country and a more ethnically and culturally homogeneous country in Carter's day. It was also both more and less meritocratic country. More meritocratic in that people believed they were starting from more or less the same starting point -- at least in the majority population. Less meritocratic because there wasn't this desperate struggle to climb up the ladder or stay on top of it. Middle class was good enough for most people and that hadn't changed yet.

So when people talk about Carter loving the country and Biden wanting to destroy it what I think they are saying is that elites and anti-elite sentiment are stronger today. Elites and their supporters are more united and have their own vision for the country now. However much conservatives railed at Walter Cronkite in the 1970s for being an elitist, liberals could point to all the corporate executives who supported Nixon or Reagan. Today the liberal media and the universities are in the same boat as the large corporations and the surveillance state and where they are going isn't necessarily where most Americans would like to go.

ElPresidenteCastro म्हणाले...

Jimmy Carter increased the chocolate ration to 25g per week.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Obviously, Biden has not raised fossil fuel taxes at all in his nine months in office and it likely will matter little or not at all whether he does or does not

Now talk about drilling leases on federal lands; and approvals for fracking and pipelines.