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"If you read his speech and listen to it carefully, much of it is thinly-veiled innuendo calling us white supremacists, calling us racists, calling us every name in the book, calling us people who don't tell the truth."

Said Rand Paul on Fox News last night, quoted in "Power Up: Unity in Washington will be harder than Biden makes it sound" (WaPo)("Some Republicans such as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) even trashed Biden's speech itself, which was widely-lauded for its appeals for Americans to set aside their political differences and work together for a better country"). 

If I had a little more time at the moment, I'd go through the speech line by line and look for every phrase that can be interpreted as saying that Rand Paul and whoever he thinks of as "us" are white supremacists, racists, liars, or whatever other names might be in that book. 


ADDED: Here's Rand Paul's Fox News segment with the "thinly-veiled innuendo" charge:

 

Paul cites a particular line in the speech: "And we must reject the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated and even manufactured." According to Paul, the "gist" of what Biden was saying there is that his political opponents manufacture and manipulate the truth.

AND: Without yet going through the comments to see your suggestions, I have read the speech to look for what can be characterized as the "thinly-veiled innuendo" Paul was talking about. Here's what I found:
And now arise a political extremism, white supremacy, domestic terrorism that we must confront and we will defeat.

Literally, Biden is not calling anyone a white supremacist, a racist,  a domestic terrorist, or a political extremist. He identifies the quality — extremism, supremacy, terrorism — and vows to fight the abstractions, not the actual people. These things don't exist without people, and yet, it's clever, because who wants to say That's me? Rand Paul's "us" can't say That's about us unless they cop to being racists, white supremacists, or domestic terrorists. 

Uniting to fight the foes we face: anger, resentment and hatred, extremism, lawlessness, violence, disease, joblessness, and hopelessness.

I note the use of the word "fight," the word that Trump was denounced for using in his January 6th speech. Trump stands accused of — impeached for — inciting an insurrection for saying, "We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore." 

But Biden says "fight" — "fight the foes." And yet his "foes" are not human beings. His foes are abstractions: "anger, resentment and hatred, extremism, lawlessness, violence, disease, joblessness, and hopelessness." 

Is he really referring to people? You can't have any of those things without people, and some of those things come from within people and characterize those people as The Other, most notably the first 4 things on that list: anger, resentment, hatred, extremism. And yet Biden did not say the angry, resentful people are foes. He takes a hate-the-sin-love-the-sinner position. 

But there's no expression of love for these angry, resentful people. And I don't get the sense that he means to say all anger is wrong and needs to be stamped out. He expressed support for the racial justice movement, and it certainly involves a great deal of expression of anger —  anger, resentment, hatred, extremism. Those angry people are respected in their anger. Their anger is justified. So anger per se is not the foe.

We can deliver racial justice and we can make America once again, the leading force for good in the world.

He almost said "Make America great again." 

I know speaking of unity can sound to some like a foolish fantasy these days. I know the forces that divide us are deep and they are real. But I also know they are not new. Our history has been a constant struggle between the American ideal, that we all are created equal, and the harsh ugly reality that racism, nativism, fear, demonization have long torn us apart.

Again, the literal attack is on the abstraction: "racism, nativism, fear, demonization." But these are things that only exist within human beings. So it is a thinly-veiled attack on racists, nativists, fear-mongers, and demonizers. And, again, who wants to say That sounds like you're talking about me

Well, Rand Paul does. It's hard to admit, but Biden will get away with demonizing his opponents if no one admits it. Obviously, a small set of Americans will openly take on the label of "racist" or "nativist," but Paul isn't talking about them. He's saying, I believe, that Biden is stoking hostility that is aimed at the millions of Americans who agreed with the Trump policies that Trump's opponents have denounced as racist. 

Let’s begin to listen to one another again, hear one another, see one another, show respect to one another. Politics doesn’t have to be a raging fire, destroying everything in its path. Every disagreement doesn’t have to be a cause for total war. And we must reject the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated and even manufactured.

I included that because Paul himself cited that line. I observe that Trump himself continually denounced "the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated and even manufactured." But Trump didn't pontificate about unity at the same time. Trump forthrightly attacked his foes. 

It's important to acknowledge that Biden doesn't demand that his opponents shut up entirely:

To all those who did not support us, let me say this. Hear me out as we move forward. Take a measure of me and my heart. If you still disagree, so be it....

You can keep fighting, but fight within a system of good order:

That’s America, the right to dissent peaceably within the guard rails of our Republic is perhaps this nation’s greatest strength. Yet hear me clearly, disagreement must not lead to disunion.... 

 No insurrection, please. 

 [T]he answer is not to turn inward, to retreat into competing factions, distrusting those who don’t look like you or worship the way you do, or don’t get their news from the same sources you do. We must end this uncivil war that pits red against blue, rural versus urban, conservative versus liberal… 

I need to give this my tag "civility bullshit," because I think that means now that my side has the power, let's be nice. Your side did not play nice when it was out of power. Did you ever tell your people to stand down when it was not in your political interest?

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And let me quote one more thing, because I want to quote an annotation that appears in The Washington Post's copy of the speech transcript. From the speech:

There is truth, and there are lies — lies told for power and for profit, and each of us has a duty and a responsibility as citizens, as Americans, and especially as leaders, leaders who have pledged to honor our Constitution and protect our nation to defend the truth and defeat the lies.

The WaPo annotation:

This is one of the prominent features of Biden's speech: While calling for unity, an acknowledgment that some of his opponents aren't on the level and that their influence must be dealt with. Biden didn't use his speech to call out individuals who purveyed the theory that his win wasn't legitimate, but he seems to recognize that, without addressing the proliferation of falsehoods, his agenda will be difficult to enact. For a man who emphasizes conciliation, it was certainly a notable choice. 

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rehajm म्हणाले...

set aside their political differences and work together for a better country

This feels plagiarized.

rehajm म्हणाले...

...and reading the rubble left from the 'election' it would seem black and brown people didn't go for all the race baiting- that's why they had to cook the numbers. Yet they still plow ahead with the white supremacy scam.

Makes for a moral angle to justify the poundings to come I suppose...

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

Heather Mac Donald

Words of Division


"Cloaked in an appeal to unity, President Biden’s inaugural speech hit all the expected themes of racial resentment and blame."
...
"This characterization of America’s worsening racism is not just factually ungrounded, it is also a tasteless rhetorical move in an inaugural address. Reflexive invocations of “systemic racism” and “white supremacy” have become the Tourette’s Syndrome of left-wing professors and activists. They are au courant, shallow terms of the moment, lacking depth or weight."

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

I mean, just the first paragraph implies that Republicans are NOT democracy, and that you can only have Democracy under people like Biden. It's very clearly saying, "you didn't have Democracy the last four years."

Paragraph 4 doesn't even try to whisper it: "A cry that can’t be any more desperate or any more clear, and now arise a political extremism, white supremacy, domestic terrorism that we must confront and we will defeat."

It is good to know Lincoln is a good guy again, since Biden is quoting him.

Jeff Brokaw म्हणाले...

I look forward to the results of your efforts, but for me, Rand Paul is one of the very few in DC whose word I trust implicitly — I’ll bet you will find several examples supporting his contention.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

But, what do you expect from the guy who accused Mitt Romney of wanting to re-enslave America's population?

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"Our history has been a constant struggle between the American ideal, that we all are created equal, and the harsh ugly reality that racism, nativism, fear, demonization have long torn us apart."

-- My God, it's like whoever wrote Biden's speech took samples from "speeches fictional dictators made in B-grade movies/TV Series." I half expect an "I am America" in there.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Why won’t President Biden disavow white supremacy?

Jeff Brokaw म्हणाले...

In the post-Clinton era, when has *any* Democrat ever *not* used a public speaking opportunity to vilify and divide? That’s their schtick, and it works on 40% of the population, because they already agree with it.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"And here we stand just days after a riotous mob thought they could use violence to silence the will of the people, to stop the work of our democracy, to drive us from this sacred ground. It did not happen. It will never happen. Not today, not tomorrow, not ever, not ever."

-- "The riotous mobs that burn down police stations and courthouses though. That can happen, and I'll pay your bail."

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"Recent weeks and months, I’ve taught us a painful lesson. There is truth, and there are lies. Lies toll for power and for profit, and each of us has a duty and a responsibility as citizens,"

-- Also, this is some real lazy proofreading on the transcript. Just look at those sentences.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Check out the (short) derb item "Who Is a White Supremacist?" and see the problem is first of all that it doesn't mean anything. It lumps a lot of benign stuff onto something hated that no longer exists.

Who Is a White Supremacist?

Like arguments about power, they're defeated by making them required to say precisely what they're talking about.

If you go on for or against it without doing that, you're part of the problem.

David Begley म्हणाले...

I read the speech; didn’t watch it. Rand is right.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"But the answer is not to turn inward, to retreat into competing factions, distrusting those who don’t look like you or worship the way you do, or don’t get their news from the same sources you do. We must end this uncivil war that pits red against blue, rural versus urban, conservative versus liberal."

-- Note. Nowhere in Biden's speech has he actually criticized Democrat calls for violence; lies about Russia hacking the election, etc. He has never once implied that the Blue team needs to do anything. The Red team is the one that has been anti-Democracy, that embraces hatred, etc.

I get what Paul is saying now after having read this. This is the sort of speech a dictator in the making makes to get people to turn informer and make blacklists.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"We will repair our alliances and engage with the rural once again, not to meet yesterday’s challenges, but today’s and tomorrow’s challenges."

-- This proofreader/editor/transcriptionist, whoever, is the worst.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"widely-lauded for its appeals for Americans to set aside their political differences"

I.e., approved by progs for telling everyone to submit to the prog regime.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

There were fine people at the inauguration, but you've got to find a way to talk to them. At least I assume they're fine people.

Undermining how they talk about themselves seems like one way to start.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"And my first act as president, I’d like to ask you to join me in a moment of silent prayer to remember all those who we lost this past year to the pandemic, those 400,000 fellow Americans: moms, dads, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, friends, neighbors, and coworkers. We’ll honor them by becoming the people and the nation we know we can and should be. So I ask you, let’s say a silent prayer for those who’ve lost their lives and those left behind and for our country."

-- Wave that bloody shirt. I wonder how many fewer would have died if you'd called for unity at the start instead of undermining Trump and getting in the way of Operation Warp Speed and politicizing treatments.

Jeff Weimer म्हणाले...

When they say "set aside our political differences and work together," they mean you racist, nativist, domestic terrorist Republicans abandon you goals and do what you're told.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"Thinking not of power, but of possibilities. Not of personal interest, but the public good and together we shall write an American story of hope, not fear, of unity not division, of light not darkness. "

-- Yeah. He just essentially called Republicans and anyone who disagrees with him the forces of darkness. Real uniter there.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Amen. Folks, this is a time of testing. We face an attack on our democracy and untruth. A raging virus, growing inequity, the sting of systemic racism, a climate in crisis, America’s role in the world. Any one of these would be enough to challenge us in profound ways.

You go with your cruel neutrality Ann.

May it always comfort you.

Joe Biden is also really stupid. The transcript of his speech makes that clear.

Danno म्हणाले...

A "my way or the highway" approach isn't exactly an offer to work together in compromise or to allow the states freedom to choose different options than the mob in DC.

For example, it's gonna be cold up there in Madison in the winter after they shut down all of the natural gas pipelines in their frenzy to show their green bonafides.

Jeff Brokaw म्हणाले...

The thing is, another 40% of the country has learned to dismiss every word out of every Democrat’s mouth as lies.

It fools only that *other* 40%.

It’s a credibility issue. Trust is gone, and nearly impossible to earn back.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

Paul might have undersold how despicable Biden's speech was if you listened to it as someone who doesn't agree with the man. I definitely feel as though politics is going to get uglier for anyone who thought dissent was Patriotic.

Jeff Weimer म्हणाले...

@Matt Sablan -

They absolutely believe they are pure and right and everything is the fault of the other side.

Achilles म्हणाले...

The enemies in Biden's speech, the threats, are all people who disagree with his policies.

He calls them racists twice.

Declares they cause disunity and division repeatedly.

Yeah fuck right off.

Anyone who wants to "unify" with Joe Biden is an enemy of me.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

Biden doesn't just (claim to) hate white people, he hates women too.

Abigail Shrier
"On day 1, Biden unilaterally eviscerates women's sports. Any educational institution that receives federal funding must admit biologically-male athletes to women's teams, women's scholarships, etc."

wendybar म्हणाले...

If you didn't vote for Biden...You AIN'T black!!!

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

There’s not even implied sincerity in Biden’s speechifying. He illustrates perfectly the progressive habit of using language to evoke emotion instead of thought, and the overwhelming stench in EVERY Biden speech comes from the heavy insistence on racial resentment as motivation for everything. His mumbling executive order “speech” was a cold blooded temper tantrum also larded down with racialism resentment to the point he promised to use racism as basis for furthering the “emergency” atmosphere Democrats have stoked over the last year, assuring us he will not let up on this progressive insanity they like to call “equities” because it almost sounds like equality when you mumble. But the ones in on the con know equites are the exact opposite of striving for equality under the law.

WE HAVE BEEN WARNED from Day 1. Ignore puppet Joe’s words at your peril.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

Trust is gone, and nearly impossible to earn back.

Video, or it didn't happen!

hawkeyedjb म्हणाले...

Sickening, depraved filth read by a demented old man who doesn't know or care what he's reading. Bullshit written by hate-mongers and stuffed into the mouth of a senescent laughingstock.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

An attack on democrats will look like an attack on women, for a reason.

Althouse's protective shield is, "well, that's not me" standoffishness. She's not going to attack women.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

Now, I might be overreacting to how negative Biden's speech is. But, that's because I tend to read things said by people who accuse me of wanting to enslave people and being a Nazi with the idea in mind that they think I want to enslave people and am a Nazi.

Temujin म्हणाले...

"widely-lauded"

Yes, his speech was widely lauded by the same people who will be lauding everything he does right down to taking a crap. He's a Democrat. The media are all Party members. It's like listening to Pravda tell us how wonderful Putin's horse riding is. Or Xinhua News Agency tell us how Xi has a higher IQ than any living world leader. (like our press did with Obama). By the way, they are already well into lauding Dr. Jill for bringing fashion and style back to Washington DC. Again, we just had the most beautiful First Lady in history leave. An actual international model. They panned her for four years. Now a schlumpy faux professor comes along and...Zowee! Fashion City!

There are 27,000+ troops in DC. Razor wire on 12' reinforced fences. National Guardsmen at state capitols from coast to coast. All because of a few crazies who stormed the US Capitol. And those crazies were from both sides of the aisle. They are creating a new fiction, a new narrative. White people on the loose.

Meanwhile, the cities across the US burned all summer with approval, many protestors lauded for their sense of 'justice'. Businesses were looted or burned down. People lost their livelihoods. Portland and Seattle still have nightly riots and protests, including last night. People cannot walk in the streets of any of our cities. Chicago is a mess. Baltimore, Portland, Seattle, LA, San Francisco, Milwaukee. Name the city, then name the Party.

And Biden's team is already working on redefining what is and who is a White Supremacist and how to remove them from society. The word 'Unity' is also being redefined.

The next few years will redefine the word 'Orwellian'.

wendybar म्हणाले...

None so gullible, as those who refuse to see....

JPS म्हणाले...

Ben Shapiro put it nicely:

"I'll be interested to see whether Biden means 'unity' as in 'we can share some baseline common values and then disagree' or 'shut up you're ruining all the unity.'"

Whatever President Biden does, that second is exactly how the lefties I know best will interpret it. I know better than to ask if they're all cool with the slew of executive orders, because of course it's cool when the good guys do it. It's scary and dictatorial when the bad guys do it.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

hawkeyedjb said… Bullshit written by hate-mongers and stuffed into the mouth of a senescent laughingstock.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said… His mumbling executive order “speech” was a cold blooded temper tantrum also larded down with racialism resentment to the point he promised to use racism as basis for furthering the “emergency” atmosphere

I’m not buying that Harris will be President in a few months. Biden will say whatever words are put in his mouth by his handlers. He a ventriloquist dummy for Susan Rice. I would guess they’re gonna keep this guy propped up as long as he can speak without drooling.

dreams म्हणाले...

Rand Paul is a very sensible person, I can't think of anything he has ever said that I disagree with and he's represented Ky well. He'd be a good president but that will never happen.

Antiantifa म्हणाले...

Matt Sablan said, "Now, I might be overreacting to how negative Biden's speech is. But, that's because I tend to read things said by people who accuse me of wanting to enslave people and being a Nazi with the idea in mind that they think I want to enslave people and am a Nazi."

That is absolutely right. Context matters with a speech like this. I did read the transcript, and it is entirely possible to read the parts Senator Paul objected to as a condemnation of the White Supremacists who have been out and about lately and of liars like HRC, who cooked up the Russia collusion narrative and continues to promote it four years later. There is no context offered in the speech after all, for who the liars are Biden is decrying.

But then, Biden himself was part of that WH meeting with Obama that decided to promote, investigate and prosecute people involved in what they knew to be a hoax, so, no, I don't believe that is what he meant. I'm afraid Rand Paul is probably right. The bad actors Biden called out, while not specified in most cases, are meant to be interpreted as bad actors on the right.

And, because the press and Antifa and BLM and Schumer and the rest of the Left's agitation machine will quiet down, it will be hard to ignore the impression that if you want peace, you must elect Democrats, which is one way to read this speech.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Biden is being disinformative.

wendybar म्हणाले...

How many people have died of Corona Virus on Joe Bidens clock already, or does that all disappear now that the new Regressive "God" was selected??

MayBee म्हणाले...

What will happen if GOP and Trump reporters decide to call themselves "The Resistance" for the next four years? I'm guessing it won't be welcome like it has been the past 4 years.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

He illustrates perfectly the progressive habit of using language to evoke emotion instead of thought,

I've been told that there is nothing wrong with this, that emotion and feelings are every bit as valid as rational thought in decision making.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

What will happen if GOP and Trump reporters decide to call themselves "The Resistance" for the next four years? I'm guessing it won't be welcome like it has been the past 4 years.

The MSM and the Democrats have already decided that we are the resistance, and they intend to wipe us out. It will be done in the name of eradicating White Supremacy.

Merny11 म्हणाले...

Anyone know which retailers in addition to Kohl’s that have dropped the My Pillow products?
Already threw out my Kohls card and let them know I did.

Inga म्हणाले...

An American Carnage!

Unknown म्हणाले...

Nothing says unity and healing like "Our history has been a constant struggle between the American ideal that we all are created equal and the harsh, ugly reality that racism, nativism, fear, demonization have long torn us apart.”

अनामित म्हणाले...

Wow this was a very bad post. Biased and just not true. I was expecting a lot more from alt house. Maybe one of the worst blogs I have ever read. Check out my blog @christianbeckerblog.

Milo Minderbinder म्हणाले...

"And what happens if conservatives resist having their voices suppressed and repressed? Well that’s a problem that requires a solution. And as Herbert Marcuse explains:

[The solution] may require apparently undemocratic means…

"I will leave it to the reader to ponder what sort of “undemocratic means” might be justified to solve the problem of conservative thought, opinion, word, action, or being.

"For now, let us put to the rest this notion of Leftist “hypocrisy.” When the Left condemns the violence in DC and praises the violence in #BLM rallies, the Left isn’t being hypocritical. It’s being authentic to its values.

"And when the Left openly says that their values require that they silence those who disagree by whatever means are necessary — and when the means to do so are now readily available — you ignore those values at your peril."

Alexander Macris, Contemplations on the Tree of Woe, 8 Jan 2021

Unknown म्हणाले...

Im seriously upset with this post. Your posts are all bias and a bunch of lies. Jesus wouldnt approve of your teaching. If you wanna read a real blog check out @Bens Bible Blog. Trump 2020

Gahrie म्हणाले...

"Thinking not of power, but of possibilities. Not of personal interest, but the public good

Who doesn't believe that Joe Biden and the rest of his family will be much richer in four years than they are today? And that the country will be much more fucked up than it is today?

Big Mike म्हणाले...

I'd do something like my post "The 7 most violence-inciting statements in Donald Trump's speech to the crowd on January 6th." Maybe later.

You won’t. “Later” is not going to happen. You are already terrified that Dr. Paul (he is a real doctor, BTW, and one who regularly donates his time and surgical services in poor areas of the world such as Haiti) will turn out to be right and your Madison milieu will turn out to be wrong.

roesch/voltaire म्हणाले...

Rand Paul makes Biden depictions broader then they were. Biden has read the FBI report stating the greatest threat to America come from domestic terrorist such as neo Nazi groups, Proud Boys etc; this by no means represents the majority of Trump voters nor does Biden suggest that is the case. Unfortunately there does seem to be a strong element of white backlash based on misinformation and the insecurity of a more diverse nation that could, for example, elect a black Senator from Georgia, but hopefully as the economy picks up for middle class and blue collar workers this sentiment will lessen..

Calypso Facto म्हणाले...

Biden's speech incited a riot in Portland last night. When does the impeachment begin? Because that's how it works, right?

alfromchgo म्हणाले...

By his followers ye shall know him.

Ben Rhodes last night:
"Ben Rhodes calls for there to be "years" of a firm and brutal "detox" of "lies" and "hate" from the entire right side of the aisle in America and that it must be done through the use of "national security" and "Homeland Security" officials."

Gonna need some more "good German lawyers" to administer this.

narciso म्हणाले...

He was a Soviet tool in the Cold war what did you expect.

J. Farmer म्हणाले...

"Unity" is a complete pipedream. Mutual antipathy for the other side is precisely what drives partisan politics in America today. What "shared values" could possibly unite the country?

iowan2 म्हणाले...

We face an attack on our democracy and untruth. A raging virus, growing inequity,

I notice equity has replaced equality. Look it up. leftist do NOT want equality.

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

Biden was the attack dog for the Dems in the Senate his entire career.

See his performance in the Clarence Thomas hearings and the Waco incineration hearings.

Sally327 म्हणाले...

Biden could have tapped his speech out in Klingon using spoons and a tambourine and it would have been "widely lauded".

By whom exactly, who knows, who cares, it doesn't matter. Senator Paul's reaction is just dust in the wind.

Paco Wové म्हणाले...

"you can only have Democracy under people like Biden"

It seems pretty clear that for Democrats and their friends, "democracy" just means "the process by which Democrats gain power". Democrats aren't in power? Then you don't have Democracy!

wendybar म्हणाले...

NOW the left is worried about extremists when they ignored it when Rand Paul was beat up by an extreme whack job in his neighborhood, unprovoked, and Steve Scalise got shot, whilst other Republicans were hiding and scared for their own lives by a Bernie Bro who shot up the Republican side of a Congressional baseball game. THERE was the REAL terror, and terrorists...but CRICKETS. Spare us the crocodile tears, because they don't really care...they just held themselves a grand party hidden behind walls, whilst we peons pay for it, and get forced to stay in our houses so we are super spreaders....

tim maguire म्हणाले...

I didn't listen to Biden's speech, but on history alone I can confidently predict that his calls for unity were just calls for everybody who isn't fully in line with left-wing thinking to drop their opposition and come over to his side. I know this because that is always what they mean by "working together." They always mean "shut up and fall in line."

rehajm म्हणाले...

I'll be giving him a chance

-Ann 1/20/2021

You already gave him a chance. It didn't work out

If you're still giving him a chance you're giving him another chance. Like with Joe and third grade...

I Callahan म्हणाले...

Biden has read the FBI report stating the greatest threat to America come from domestic terrorist such as neo Nazi groups, Proud Boys etc.

The FBI can create such a report; it doesn't make it true. It's not, but any objective measure. It's a flat-out lie. I suspect both you and Biden know that, and that you're both gaslighting.

this by no means represents the majority of Trump voters nor does Biden suggest that is the case.

Oh I believe he very much thinks that, or wants people to believe that's the case. It isn't Proud Boys and neo Nazi groups that are being threatened with censure; that happened years ago. It's regular Trump voters or people who spoke out in favor of Trump who are now being hounded out of their jobs, torn up on social media, and the like.

Unfortunately there does seem to be a strong element of white backlash based on misinformation and the insecurity of a more diverse nation that could, for example, elect a black Senator from Georgia

No misinformation at all. It's not about "white backlash" - that's just another gaslighting chickenshit term. It's about the fact that the American culture itself is being attacked and erased by people that view this country as a horrible place that must be changed into something it was never meant to be. That's most certainly happening, and no amount of flowery words is going to change that.

but hopefully as the economy picks up for middle class and blue collar workers this sentiment will lessen..

This is just pure nonsense. Blue collar workers were doing fine under Trump until Covid hit, when DEMOCRAT governors shut down their states and killed the economy while it was chugging along. The Chamber of Commerce and Big Business want cheap labor, so they'll back another trade agreement of some sort that will kill jobs for the middle class and blue collar workers. Trump was the only president in several generations to try to address that.

You are flat-out looney-tunes, RV. Not a shred of what you typed has anything resembling what's actually happening out there. Do better.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"this by no means represents the majority of Trump voters nor does Biden suggest that is the case."

-- That's ridiculous. Biden thinks that Mitt Romney wanted to re-enslave Americans. He had no problem calling Republicans who wanted a thorough review of evidence of potential voting irregularities Nazis (even though I don't believe in the vote switching theory, I still want to know why so many USBs were lost, why Republican poll watchers were turned away, and the general incompetence like Sticky Gate in New York that confused the result of the one election there happened.)

There is no reason to assume Biden is moderate in his accusations against Republicans or thinks that there is only a minority of "white supremacists" among the Republican ranks.

Giving him the benefit of the doubt here requires you to willfully ignore everything he has said and done in recent memory.

wendybar म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Unknown म्हणाले...

Need a new meme, 'Nothing says unity and healing like'

Greg Hlatky म्हणाले...

Biden has read the FBI report stating the greatest threat to America come from domestic terrorist such as neo Nazi groups, Proud Boys etc

Sort of like when J. Edgar Hoover ignored and denied Mafia activity in the 40s and 50s.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

I like Rand Paul. He is probably one of the few who isn't on the take.


Tommy Duncan म्हणाले...

Biden calls for unity by pointing out our faults and differences. Of course, he can't appeal to the things we hold in common because he doesn't believe such things exist.

My neighbor and I talked yesterday while leaning on our snow shovels at the end of my driveway. The comments were something like: "Here we are. White men. Trump voters. Gun owners. Living in rural America. We're now domestic terrorists."

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The left lost their minds over Trump because if put in huge kink in their grift.

That's why Hillary is losing her mind again and desperately yammering on about Russia and a 9/11 commission.

Donald Trump didn't need insider grift. The Clintons, do.

Calling everyone who disagrees with the collective left "a racist" works for the corrupt left. Dummies buy it.

iowan2 म्हणाले...

Biden has read the FBI report stating the greatest threat to America come from domestic terrorist such as neo Nazi groups, Proud Boys etc;

The exact same FBI, so politicized it fabricated from nothingness a counter intelligence investigation against President Trump, his campaign and the Trump transition team for conspiring with Russia.
We know FBI Special Agent Joe Pientka was ordered to stand down in is defined job description of vetting the accuracy of the Steele dossier. He was reassigned to get him out of the way. We have known this since 2018 from Senate hearings, that were immediately sealed, with the approval of Republicans.
Just a coincidence that all investigations into Senator Burr's insider stock trading has
been recently cancelled by the DoJ, Tues, Jan 19,2020. Just a coincidence.

gadfly your appeals to authority, require, you know, an actual authority.

In short, the FBI is a corrupt leftist political driven organization.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The FBI will never look into Biden family corruption - because the FBI is corrupt too.
It's all insider grift and mob - all the time.

Using the bully horn and hollywood to spread mis-information works.

rehajm म्हणाले...

I like Rand Paul. He is probably one of the few who isn't on the take.

As a kid I never encountered another kid dreaming about one day growing up and playing for the Washington Generals but somehow fate brought all those kids together in the Senate GOP.

320Busdriver म्हणाले...

Amazon is absolutely evil. I despise everything they represent.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/why-did-amazon-wait-until-bidens-inauguration-to-offer-help-with-vaccine-distribution

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

If you dare question the obvious shenanigans and PROBABLE fraud that took place to drag this old man across the finish like you are a WHITE SUPREMACIST.

mandrewa म्हणाले...

"Conservatives CANNOT be teachers, police officers, doctors, lawyers, coaches, or bosses. It's
constitutionally unfair to others who are subjected to the conservative's deranged judgement.
Conservatives can do menial work, until they are ready to join the human race."


That's a quote from Bill Palmer of Palmer Report, which is a popular blog according to Wikipedia.
And the "Palmer Report has been quoted by both the Washington Post and USA today as a political blogger
and analyst,"
also according to Wikipedia.

I imagine we are going to get only a few speeches from Joe Biden, so it's important to look closely
at each one. But this is the context.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Rand Paul makes Biden depictions broader then they were. Biden has read the FBI report stating the greatest threat to America come from domestic terrorist such as neo Nazi groups, Proud Boys etc; this by no means represents the majority of Trump voters nor does Biden suggest that is the case. Unfortunately there does seem to be a strong element of white backlash based on misinformation and the insecurity of a more diverse nation that could, for example, elect a black Senator from Georgia, but hopefully as the economy picks up for middle class and blue collar workers this sentiment will lessen..”

Excellent observation. If the average Trumpist isn’t an extremist, racist, or insurrectionist, why are they taking what Biden said personally? I never took any Antifa/BLM criticism personally because I didn’t agree with their tactics, nor the call to defund the police.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"If the average Trumpist isn’t an extremist, racist, or insurrectionist, why are they taking what Biden said personally?"

-- Because Biden DOES think they are. We know this because he considers Mitt Romney a radical who wants to enslave Americans and thinks Ted Cruz is a Nazi.

Biden is a small, angry man.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

If the average Trumpist isn’t an extremist, racist, or insurrectionist, why are they taking what Biden said personally?

Because you guys are already drawing up lists and talking about re-education camps. And we already know you are willing to persecute us publicly and punish us for what you perceive our thoughts to be.

J2 म्हणाले...

Merny11

Bed Bath & Beyond

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

the greatest threat to America come from domestic terrorist such as neo Nazi groups

What a foolish thing to write and I don't believe that even you believe this crap. If you believe your fellow Americans mean to do more harm to you and this country than the ChiComs then Joe's your man, because he is also demented and deficient mentally, which one would have to be to believe such tripe. Now, should you try to refocus your small mind on domestic matters then I simply point to the last twelve months of American history, and let us tally up the death and destruction coast to coast and it is quite clear by using factual metrics to determine that so-called "anti-fascists" and "anti-racists" have caused 92% of riot deaths and destroyed cities and actually engaged police and federal agents in battle, including violating the Geneva Convention by shining lasers into the cops' eyes and attempting to burn down a federal courthouse.

How many people have the Proud Boys killed? What are their names?

Leland म्हणाले...

Who cares about speeches, what is important is action. Already Biden has screwed Texas by cancelling Keystone XL. Now that Canadian tar sands oil will flow to refineries in Washington State and Chicago. And Biden promises to support Russia, China, and Iran by banning fracking, thus raising the price of oil even higher, and making the West more reliant on those afore mentioned countries. Fortunately, those countries lack expertise and resources to efficiently develop their oil fields, so that means high paying jobs for those that have such expertise.

It hasn't even been 24 hours.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

Nothing personal in my posts at all Inga. Stop projecting.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Because you guys are already drawing up lists and talking about re-education camps. And we already know you are willing to persecute us publicly and punish us for what you perceive our thoughts to be.”

Gahrie, why do you always sound as if you’re on the verge of some sort of hysterical break?

rehajm म्हणाले...

According to Paul, the "gist" of what Biden was saying there is that his political opponents manufacture and manipulate the truth.

Another example of accusing the right of a thing the left is doing, only now it is pointless to point it out.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Rand Paul is right. The Big Tech "independent fact checkers" aren't independent. And they are not interested in facts. It's ALL Democrat propaganda. We're in a lot of trouble here. Settle in. Keep your head down.

Greg Hlatky म्हणाले...

If the average Trumpist isn’t an extremist, racist, or insurrectionist, why are they taking what Biden said personally?

If the Left says something reasonable, they're lying.

If the Left says something extreme, they're telling the truth.

Anything they say that sounds insane today will be policy tomorrow.

Drago म्हणाले...

Russia Collusion Dead Ender Truther Inga:
Gahrie, why do you always sound as if you’re on the verge of some sort of hysterical break?"

Carter Page, Russian spy or no?

Inga म्हणाले...

“Because Biden DOES think they are. We know this because he considers Mitt Romney a radical who wants to enslave Americans and thinks Ted Cruz is a Nazi.”

Another guy who sounds like he’s having some sort of hysterical break. As a matter of fact, quite a few of you are falling into yet another conspiracy theory, that the “left” is out to get you. Buy more guns, beans and rice, eh? Same reaction as when Obama won the Presidency.

Left Bank of the Charles म्हणाले...

Looks like Rand Paul is manufacturing the thinly veiled innuendo of which he speaks.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"Rand Paul makes Biden depictions broader then they were.”

Now look at “Very fine people on both sides.”

There are tons of examples of you guys using dishonest “broadening” of Trump’s words to score points.

f the average Trumpist isn’t an extremist, racist, or insurrectionist, why are they taking what Biden said personally?

Maybe because we have been dishonestly accused of racism for four years?

Francisco D म्हणाले...

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...There’s not even implied sincerity in Biden’s speechifying. He illustrates perfectly the progressive habit of using language to evoke emotion instead of thought, and the overwhelming stench in EVERY Biden speech comes from the heavy insistence on racial resentment as motivation for everything.

It is not just Biden's speech. It is the go to play for Democrats, especially White ones. They create racial resentment in order to say they are the ones that will heal racial conflict.

Drago म्हणाले...

Russia Collusion Dead Ender Truther Inga: "Excellent observation. If the average Trumpist isn’t an extremist, racist, or insurrectionist, why are they taking what Biden said personally? I never took any Antifa/BLM criticism personally because I didn’t agree with their tactics, nor the call to defund the police."

Tsk tsk tsk.

According to entire left/LLR-left, as of about June or July antifa became something that doesnt even exist at all beyond status of a myth.

So now the question must be pised to The Very Very Forgetful Inga: How can a "myth" have "tactics"?

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Gahrie, why do you always sound as if you’re on the verge of some sort of hysterical break?

The Left has shown me it works.

Francisco D म्हणाले...

Our Resident Idiot is a typical White suburban liberal Democrat who is scared of Black people and projects that onto others.

It is a pitiful and rather primitive defense mechanism and the Democrats have been taking advantage of it for the past 50 years.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

All democrat crime, lies and grift = "It's all Lies!"

Michael K म्हणाले...

hopefully as the economy picks up for middle class and blue collar workers this sentiment will lessen..

Pretty funny R/V. Remember "Summer of Recovery?" All six of them? None was real.

Let's see how the economy does for the people not in the rentier class.

Temujin म्हणाले...

"...why are they taking what Biden said personally? I never took any Antifa/BLM criticism personally because I didn’t agree with their tactics, nor the call to defund the police."

Here's your answer Inga. It's because we've been called Nazis, Fascists, and White Supremacists for years. We have been chased out of speaking engagements at too many universities to count. We are not allowed to be hired into universities and, by chance, if we do sneak in, we are refused tenure. We have book deals taken away from publishers. We have (had?) one network that would even attempt to present a balanced view of things, and that network is constantly excoriated for showing the conservative view of things. Or, just telling the truth- such as in the fake Russia Collusion or Hunter Biden cases when the entire media complex was all in on the Big Lies. And as we speak, CNN and NBC are trying to get that network removed, shut down, or just shut up.

We watch as our schools burn books under the watchful eyes of the Left gatekeepers. As the curricula of those schools remove the classics because 'White Men' and replace them with mediocre fill-ins because 'diversity'. Or just remove Western Civ entirely to replace with Victim Studies.

If we question anything- from Covid shut downs or mask use to Global Warming/Cooling/Climate Change, we are not just 'deniers', but should be shut up, taken away, and never heard from again.

I could write a list that goes on for a day. But the Left has never been open to an actual discussion. Attacks are the only discussion from the Left. As we've seen so much, heard so much, and continue to see what's unfolding in front of us, you bet we take seriously and personally what Biden and his people say. The amazing thing is that you don't as well.

My entire life I heard how those on Left were the overseers of free speech, of equality of opportunity, of anti-fascism. What we have seen is our 'friends' on the Left looking to shut us down, censor our thoughts, or words- written or spoken. And the fascists? They are all on the Left. From Antifa to BLM to the leaders in academia and the press only too anxious to shut down any discourse.

After years of the Left changing the meaning of words and parading around podiums giving national speeches, spouting bullshit with nice sounding phrases that have zero meaning or sincerity to them (think: Barack Obama), we've learned to understand what you mean by words like 'Unity'. 'Equity'. 'Diversity'. 'Hope & Change'.

They are not what we used to think they meant. Unity- to the Left, means conformity. Submission. Think like us and we'll have unity. Think differently and you will find you no longer have a job, or a business, or the ability to write or speak in public, or a news source that is allowed.

The Left has been the scourge of humanity for over 100 years. I see no change in that. So, yeah- I take Biden's words personally. At best he's a shill.

Rick म्हणाले...

Every disagreement doesn’t have to be a cause for total war. And we must reject the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated and even manufactured.


The inclusion of "manufactured" is interesting. Do you suppose Joe is referring to the left's claim more than 1 in 5 women on campus are sexually assaulted during a 4 year term, a rate greater than anywhere else in the world including countries experiencing civil war? Could he be referring to Elizabeth Warren's propaganda opus claiming half of all American personal bankruptcies are due to medical bills?

These claims were the result of the left's corrupting academia and government (the "studies" were supported by government grants) from advancing our understanding of reality to manufacturing fraudulent data points to support the left's legislative agenda. Since reality does not support their agenda they've created their own. The left's media allies use this propaganda to drive hysteria which their allied politicians use to justify their legislation.

Somehow I doubt Joe or any leftist has any desire to limit the manufacture of "facts".

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Ignore @fuck and @finga as request by our gracious host. Add that @feadering idiot too.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Russia Russia Inag, who voted for a Russian agent, is here to lecture us on the crap she swallows whole.

Jaq म्हणाले...

It’s amazing how you guys are so capable of finding the nuance in Biden’s nasty “I. won, shut up!” speech but had zero ability to do so with Trump. It’s almost as if you guys have been manipulated by the cabal that controls everything you see and read. Nah!

Fuck this, you guys did successfully steal the presidency and there is nothing I can do about it except find a way to live outside of your power.

Lyle म्हणाले...

He made allusions to the Civil War and took some lines from Lincoln. For example he alluded to blue versus read, which alludes to blue versus gray. The Democrats see themselves as Unionists and Republicans as Confederates. This is pretty clear to me. Did his speech denounce his Democrat colleagues calling half of America terrorists or white supremacists?

He needs to give a speech where he expressly calls people who voted for Trump not white supremacists and terrorists. There will be no unity until he does that.

MountainMan म्हणाले...

"If the average Trumpist isn’t an extremist, racist, or insurrectionist, why are they taking what Biden said personally?"

I am not an extremist, racist, or insurrectionist and I am probably about as average as a Trump voter could be. Why take it personally? Because people like Ben Rhodes, John Brennan, and others have been all over cable news and Twitter threatening me, that's why. Their propaganda campaign has even turned members of my own family against me. And all I did was vote for the person who I knew was the better candidate.

This is not the American i grew up in nor the one I want for my grandchildren. But people like you and the people you vote for are the ones that are destroying it. Trump did not want me dead.

Drago म्हणाले...

Schizoid Inga: "Another guy who sounds like he’s having some sort of hysterical break."

Inga now officially peddling the idea that Joe Biden, captured on video saying to a black church audience that Romney was "going to put you all back in chains" is now a conspiracy theory.

This is similar to her now claiming that her 5+ years of pushing Russia Russia Russia Collusion never happened at all.

Which is similar to her claiming democraticals in the State Legislatures openly pushing legislation for post-birth abortion was also a conspiracy theory.

Which is similar to how Inga claimed the accusation Hillary paid for the hoax dossier was a conspiracy theory.

See a pattern?

Anyone?

Bueller? Bueller?

Rick म्हणाले...

Inga said...
“Because Biden DOES think they are. We know this because he considers Mitt Romney a radical who wants to enslave Americans and thinks Ted Cruz is a Nazi.”

Another guy who sounds like he’s having some sort of hysterical break


It's revealing left wingers respond to seeing Biden's hysteria cited conclude the people who point it out are hysterics rather than Biden. It shows no information can crack their cultish devotion to Dems and left wingers.

Inga म्हणाले...

“The Left has been the scourge of humanity for over 100 years. I see no change in that. So, yeah- I take Biden's words personally. At best he's a shill.”

No, extremists are the scourge of humanity. If you’re not an extremist, don’t defend their agenda.

walter म्हणाले...

Does all the Harris/Biden inaugural genuflecting before that racist Lincoln piss of the folks trying to remove his statue on Bascom Hill?
MAGA: Make Abraham Great Again!

Jaq म्हणाले...

Biden was in the meeting that manufactured the Russia hoax. Biden was in a meeting with the Ukrainians who manufactured the “black ledger” that the Democrats used to get Manafort.

BIden is one of the worlds foremost insiders on the manufacture of fake news. After killing Keystone, banning new fracking, and announcing that we are going to used gender equality and climate propaganda as measures for the impact of policies, I expect he will lose the House, and we can impeach him and not allow him to present a defense, same as the Democrats never allowed Trump to present a defense.

The whole impeachment was to cover up Biden’s Ukrainian corruption and he lectures us on “fake news."

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Not sure why so many people are so very anti (actual doctor) Paul.

He is famously anti-war and anti-spending.

And he's nothing if not smart.

Not exactly 'Mr. Personality' and he has questionable hair, but that's not what I look for in a politician.

Mark O म्हणाले...

Two weeks after the January 6 "insurrection" some continue to argue that Trump intended to incite a riot at the Capitol.

Except, Trump had nothing to gain from a riot that day. It was the day scheduled for the Senate publicly to debate the irregularities in the vote. It was literally Trump's last chance to force transparency in those states.

Obviously, a riot would slow or end the debate and could be used (as it has) as a symbol of Trump's dangerousness. Putting aside all the evidence that Antifa, BLM and others instigated the riot, asking who would benefit from the riot suggests heavily that the Left had every reason and Trump had none.


Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Day one and Joe is still our dumbest president.

And Hillary Clinton will never be president, so we've got that going for us...

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

I woke up this Am thinking about Comey.

Perhaps Trump should not have fired him. Perhaps Comey was the least worst at the FBI. Comey did, after all, actually attempt to look into Clinton's illegal private server. Perhaps Trump was manipulated into firing Comey - and really that was a mistake. Trump was given bad advise from insiders who wished him harm. Couple that with Trumps' own mis-steps (like giving Jeff Sessions his job) and the swamp draining that needed to happen never materialized.

Inga म्हणाले...

And if you’re not an extremist, stop the hysterical projections. You’ll wear yourselves out before 4 years passes.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"Except, Trump had nothing to gain from a riot that day."

A rational thought. Too bad rationality is undervalued these days.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

I agree with Inga that quoting what progressives say does make one sound hysterical, when taken out of context, which is the only way Inga takes our words ever (watch it happen!). She should contemplate WHY that is so.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"Another guy who sounds like he’s having some sort of hysterical break. As a matter of fact, quite a few of you are falling into yet another conspiracy theory, that the “left” is out to get you. Buy more guns, beans and rice, eh? Same reaction as when Obama won the Presidency."

-- I'm probably one of the calmest people here. It's not my fault you've forgotten that Biden maliciously smeared Mitt Romney as a wanna-be slaver: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-put-yall-back-in-chains/ , but, since I remember that Biden thinks even the most moderate of conservatives is akin to a rabid, Confederate Southern slaver, then yes. I reasonably consider that he may not consider even people who were not pro-Trump, like myself, but moderately to conservative as potential racist Nazis as well.

Remember: I don't own a gun because I don't know how to use one. If you're going to smear me, you can at least bother to remember things about me prior to making accusations.

Greg The Class Traitor म्हणाले...

"Some Republicans such as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) even trashed Biden's speech itself, which was widely-lauded for its appeals for Americans to set aside their political differences and work together for a better country"

That would be because some Republicans aren't idiots.

Joe* showed us how he's going to "set aside [our] political differences" by, as one of his first acts as President*, killing President Trump's "1776 Project" to celebrate America.

You want us to "set aside [our] political differences"? You go first.

dd म्हणाले...

"We can make America, once again, the leading force for good in the world.

I know speaking of unity can sound to some like a foolish fantasy.

I know the forces that divide us are deep and they are real.

But I also know they are not new.

Our history has been a constant struggle between the American ideal that we are all created equal and the harsh, ugly reality that racism, nativism, fear, and demonization have long torn us apart.

The battle is perennial.

Victory is never assured.

Through the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War, 9/11, through struggle, sacrifice, and setbacks, our “better angels” have always prevailed."

This quote is saying that our current divide isn't new. We have long had racist,nativists.... In other words, the Trump supports are racism, nativism and fear mongering that is dividing us isn't new.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"And if you’re not an extremist, stop the hysterical projections."

-- The sort of thinking that leads to: "If you're innocent, you have nothing to hide, so let the police search your house, your person, your emails, and detain you until they're satisfied."

I'm not an extremist; my projections are not hysterical. I *believe* Biden when he says his opponents are Nazis and accuses his other opponents of wanting to enslave people. If you're telling me I shouldn't believe Biden... well, that creates its own problems, doesn't it?

Spiros Pappas म्हणाले...

Dissent is still possible? Not in the public spaces patrolled by 30,000 soldiers and not on the internet.

rehajm म्हणाले...

You want us to "set aside [our] political differences"? You go first.

Worth a repeat.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Why take it personally? Because people like Ben Rhodes, John Brennan, and others have been all over cable news and Twitter threatening me, that's why. Their propaganda campaign has even turned members of my own family against me. And all I did was vote for the person who I knew was the better candidate.”

So Ben Rhodes and John Brennan were a huge influence to your family, eh? Did you ever consider it was Trump’s own actions that turned your family off? Maybe they were horrified that you supported a man like Trump. Just a guess.

Cassandra म्हणाले...

"And my first act as president, I’d like to ask you to join me in a moment of silent prayer to remember all those who we lost this past year to the pandemic, those 400,000 fellow Americans: moms, dads, husbands, wives, sons, daughters, friends, neighbors, and coworkers.

Enough with the gendered language already! I love how it's perfectly wholesome and 'return to decency/normalcy-ish' for Biden and Pelosi ("'a wife, a mother, a grandmother, a daughter') to appeal to bigoted and outdated gender tropes, yet we need special rules to forbid the wrong people from using them, lest we encourage Oldthink or Wrongthink. It's this kind of absurdity that makes people distrust their professed desire to get back to the very same 'normality' they keep telling us is irredeemably racist/built on a foundation of institutional white supremacy!

Which is it? Was the 'old normal' a good thing that we need to get back to? Or a shameful stain we need to scrub out of the very fabric of our culture and country?

I'm so confused...

Biden's speech reminded me of Obama's rhetoric: there's a right side of history (theirs), and if you're not onboard, you're in the way. As Hillary is wont to remind us, you can't - and shouldn't try to - compromise with people who want to destroy everything you hold sacred.

We're going to have to find a way to live together peaceably. That's going to be difficult if only one side of the conversation is allowed, and disagreement = disunity.

Jaq म्हणाले...

?If you’re not an extremist, don’t defend their agenda.”

This is more cult leader rhetoric. Another thought stopping clishe with a heaving dollop of gaslighting. Who defines “their agenda”? What if they believed in mom and apple pie?

You guys smeared the Natiional Guard and started a purge of soldiers who so much as displayed a Gadsden Flag, accusing them of being “insurrectionists,” while defending Antifa’s throwing of explosives into a Federal courthouse.

The fact is that the number of “insurrectionists” involved in the Capitol thing is tiny, and there is plenty of indication that there was a lot of false flag stuff going on, and a small admixture of the mentally ill.

Is it a “lie” that PA elections are crooked? The FBI doesn’t think so:

Ozzie did not follow the judge’s advice, and the following year, 1980, he explained to undercover FBI agents delivering him a $50,000 bribe that “money talks in this business, and bullshit walks.” When video emerged he was expelled from Congress — the first congressman expelled since the Civil War—and went to prison. When Ozzie got out, he appears to have gone right back to work, and in July 2020 was charged with bribing a Philadelphia elections judge to stuff ballots for his candidates.

Three of those candidates, who have not been identified, now sit on the Philadelphia Court of Common Pleas. Judges on this court have already denied the Trump campaign’s ballot-watchers access, providing crucial unsupervised time to ward vote counters before a successful appeal at a higher cour


https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/06/american-hustle-party-insiders-tell-the-true-story-of-how-philadelphia-elections-work/

Oh yeah, a mobbed up guy. who is the brother of this election fraud specialist sits on the PA Supreme Court

This isn’t “fake news,” this is the reality of PA politics and to say so may make people angry, but the truth can never be defined as “incitement” unless you are living in a totalitarian society.

Rick म्हणाले...

Inga said...
And if you’re not an extremist, stop the hysterical projections.


Citing what Biden actually said is "hysterical projection". This is why left wingers are useless. They make claims completely contradicted by facts but simply don't care. Lies in service to their political ends are simply what they do. Right or wrong is simply irrelevant. Their belief set is whatever supports the political requirements of the moment.

The most absurd thing though is these people incapable of recognizing the first bit of reality lecture others on facts and conspiracy theories. What ridiculous people.

Iman म्हणाले...

Rand Paul makes Biden depictions broader then they were. Biden has read the FBI report stating the greatest threat to America come from domestic terrorist such as neo Nazi groups, Proud Boys etc; this by no means represents the majority of Trump voters nor does Biden suggest that is the case.

I look back fondly on the days when the worst thing the current clownshow FBI did was dress in women’s’ clothing.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Spreading lies and mis-information is only OK with the left do it.

Clinton: I would love to see if Trump 'was talking to Putin the day that the insurgents invaded our Capitol'

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

Here's one of the most interesting things: I am literally a great target for Democrats. I'm socially liberal (pro-gay marriage, agree with Clinton's "safe, legal, rare" stance on abortion.) I'm economically conservative, but so were some Blue Dogs. I dislike extremism, and I'm not a big fan of Trump. I believe that there should be a better immigration system; I am the quintessential Republican squish. I am lined up to have been a "Biden Republican." I live near DC; my work puts me in the Team Blue demographics.

But people like Biden can't even get me on board, probably because despite being the sort of RINO that will be called a cuck, I'm still called an extremist and accused of being hysterical by the left. The right will insult me and thumb their noses at me; the left has put other people like me on blacklists and support deplatforming people who think like me. If I ever have to pick a side, it's going to be relatively easy.

Inga म्हणाले...

“I'm not an extremist; my projections are not hysterical. I *believe* Biden when he says his opponents are Nazis and accuses his other opponents of wanting to enslave people. If you're telling me I shouldn't believe Biden... well, that creates its own problems, doesn't it?”

So why are you assuming Biden meant you, the average Trump supporter? Maybe he really meant what he said, that Nazis are opponents. I think you are placing yourself in the camp of extremists that Biden was speaking of. If you aren’t an extremist, why are you doing this? I think so many of you are confused, too many years of being a Trump cultist maybe? Time to cut the cord.

narciso म्हणाले...

Rhodes was a fiction writer, who broke bread with the Castro bros, and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, Brennan, was a literal American communist party voter, and practically an hezbollah partisan in the company,

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"So why are you assuming Biden meant you, the average Trump supporter?"

-- Do you consider Mitt Romney an average Trump supporter?

Jaq म्हणाले...

"Biden's speech itself, which was widely-lauded...”

By his lickspittle press.

Drago म्हणाले...

MS: "-- Do you consider Mitt Romney an average Trump supporter?"

Careful. Given Inga's track record in about 5 minutes she will be claiming Mitt Romney doesnt exist!

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"Maybe he really meant what he said, that Nazis are opponents."

-- He has previously referred to Ted Cruz as a Nazi, likening him to Goebbels. Do you consider Ted Cruz a Nazi?

Rick म्हणाले...

Inga said...
So why are you assuming Biden meant you, the average Trump supporter? Maybe he really meant what he said, that Nazis are opponents.


Note her lie that Biden was referring to Nazis. In fact it was a campaign speech criticizing Republicans during the Mitt Romney / Obama campaign. This is who he referred to.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"I think you are placing yourself in the camp of extremists that Biden was speaking of. If you aren’t an extremist, why are you doing this?"

-- Exactly the sort of McCarthyist, "The only reason you won't denounce the people on my list is if you too are a Communist," or Fascist, "Well, the only reason you wouldn't inform is if you too were an enemy of the state," thinking that American philosophy and political theory should reject. This is the sort of thinking that got Japanese internment camps: "If you aren't a spy, why should you care if you're interned?"

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"In fact it was a campaign speech criticizing Republicans during the Mitt Romney / Obama campaign. This is who he referred to."

-- Technically, the slavery comment was Mitt Romney; the Nazi comment targeted Ted Cruz.

Mark म्हणाले...

What Rand said was abundantly obvious to anyone with a fair mind who watched the speech.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Do you consider Mitt Romney an average Trump supporter?”

Strange how Mitt Romney supported voting for Biden. Sort of makes your assertion fall apart.

hawkeyedjb म्हणाले...

" ...there does seem to be a strong element of white backlash based on misinformation and the insecurity of a more diverse nation..."

Where is this "strong element" found? Where can we observe this "insecurity?" This is projection, or observation from a single data point. Why do leftists insist that Americans are so vicious and racist? Is it because they observe themselves, their friends, and draw conclusions?

You might as well look on the Antifa/BLM riots and imagine that most Americans are violent, anti-American thugs. Plenty of data points for that observation. Here's an idea: let's take the most objectionable traits of a small subgroup and impugn anyone remotely associated, however indirectly, with that subgroup. Conclusion: Democrats are violent, race-obsessed lunatics. I had some Democrat friends, until I discovered that!

Chuck म्हणाले...

An unaddressed part of this blog post is that Senator Paul's appearance was on the hour of Fox News that has been recently taken away from Martha MacCallum, and for which Fox is still apparently seeking a new formula. The interim host of the moment is Brian Kilmeade, one of the Trump-adoring hosts from the AM show, Fox & Friends. Fox is transitioning real news hours to "viewpoint" hours. In a naked attempt to grasp back Trump-loving viewers from OAN and Newsmax.

Disgusting. Oh, and this, too; deplorable.

Rick म्हणाले...

Technically, the slavery comment was Mitt Romney;

He referred to "they". It was all Republicans not just Mitt.

I'm Not Sure म्हणाले...

"widely-lauded for its appeals for Americans to set aside their political differences and work together for a better country"

Heh. Biden (and the rest of the left) is four years late to that party. Up until yesterday (and even still, in some places), the left's singular goal has been to tear this country apart. Work together? Go fuck yourself.

Drago म्हणाले...

Crazy Inga also called the under oath testimony of Christopher Steele, where he admitted how full of crap he was about everything, a conspiracy theory!

The best part about that story?

Inga claimed it never happened because Christopher Steele provided his testimony via deposition and not in a London courtroom!!!

LOLOLOLOL

Inga demanded to see pictures of Steele walking into a courtroom otherwise in her strange world it never happened!

Classic Inga.

Classic.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

“Do you consider Mitt Romney an average Trump supporter?”

Strange how Mitt Romney supported voting for Biden. Sort of makes your assertion fall apart.

-- I feel... I feel as though the trap that was laid for you didn't register.

The reason I think Biden thinks all Republicans are extremists is because he said Mitt Romney -- who you just acknowledged is a Republican who supported Biden -- wanted to re-enslave black Americans. Which is my entire point: I believe Biden thinks all Republicans are extremists because even the LEAST extreme Republican he treats as the most extreme.

You do understand the logic going on here, right?

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"Maybe he really meant what he said, that Nazis are opponents."

DBI* strikes again.

There are no actual Nazis, bless your heart. They were dealt with in 1945.

Those would be neo-Nazis, and there are damned few of them, half of whom that are undercover FBI agents.

Just go the fuck away. This is the least racist country on earth.

Why else are all the brown people on earth trying to get here?

*Dim Bulb Inga

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

J. Farmer said...

"Unity" is a complete pipedream.

The term "Unity", when coming out of Jesus Joe's pie hole, has been redefined to be "my way or the highway".

Jaq म्हणाले...

"So why are you assuming Biden meant you, the average Trump supporter? “

Setting aside the fact that you guys used exactly the same kinds of assumptions to paint Trump as an irredeemable racist when there is zero evidence that this was ever true, maybe it’s because the press has been painting the hundreds of thousands of people who went to DC to show their support for an examination of the election results in a court of law as “insurrectionists.”

Anybody who questions whether the elections were fair and honest, despite the fact that there is mounds of evidence that they were not is an “insurrectionist” Demcocrats wanted to get Congresspeople who objected to the electoral vote counts booted for Congress despite the fact that Democrats have objected to those same counts the last three times that a Republican was elected.

The stories about Hunter Biden’s laptop are still suppressed and anybody who mentions them is accused of being a Russian agent or a traitor. There is plenty of evidence in the public domain, and was before the crackhead even forgot about his laptop at that shop that the Bidens are corrupt.

Now the laptop guy’s business has been destroyed and he has been accused of being a hacker and a Russian agent.

So maybe Inag, you guys should narrow the focus of your rhetoric instead of engaging in this gaslighting campaign. LOL, I kid, I kid, gaslighting is what you guys specialize in.

Rick म्हणाले...

Inga said...
“Do you consider Mitt Romney an average Trump supporter?”

Strange how Mitt Romney supported voting for Biden. Sort of makes your assertion fall apart.


How revealing. That Biden's slavery accusation included Romney destroys her own pretense that claim was directed only at extremists but has no effect on the criticisms. She manages to conclude the exact opposite because reality simply isn't relevant to her.

s'opihjerdt म्हणाले...

SPOCK: You yourself have stated the need for unity of authority on this planet. We agree.
OXMYX: Yeah, but I got to be the unity.

Howard म्हणाले...

I was told by you people that only dogs here dog whistling.

Drago म्हणाले...

Question: Why would a banned commenter from Michigan who poses as a conservative while pushing leftist policy and politicians and has a history of violent postings against women and children as well as racist rants against black conservatives still continue to show up day after day in order to post more drivel from his child sexual grooming comrades?

A psychological case study in the making.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

BTW, NPR is reporting this morning that Dr. Faucci and the CDC have suddenly realized that COVID may be peaking in the US. I'm figuring it will all be over by March.

And just like that, Jesus Joe cured COVID!

narciso म्हणाले...

this sdba drone, (yugoslav secret police) has been known to take up every single lie, it's the way it works first ustache are the only ones who need to fear, then rank and file catholics, and then everybody else, it was djilas the yugoslav dissident that came up with 'the new class' after all, not the Russians,

In Soviet Russia, it was only the Czarist, White Russians, Mensheviks, Trotskyites then everyone else,

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"Fox is transitioning real news hours to "viewpoint" hours."

Ha! So what CNN and MSNBC et al do 24/7?

So stupid. How do you remember to breathe?

Nonapod म्हणाले...

True healing and reunification would require that both sides honestly self reflect, understand and openly admit their own failings, and be willing to truly understand the otherside's positions without demonizing them or insulting them. So far I don't see any real evidence of these things occuring. And I'm highly doubtful that Biden and the rest of the current leadership have either the desire or capability do what is required to heal this country.

For my part, I bear no ill will toward most of the Biden voters as well as the general lumpenprole the make up the Democrat's base. I honestly don't believe that most of them are bad people, just a little foolish. And I'm a little frustrated with them at times.

I reserve my hatred for those in power, those who rule us with some pretense of moral superiority, as well as their enablers in the media. For them, a divided populace can be useful, even necessary. To push forward their agenda they need crisises. They need to agitate one group against another. They need to antagonize, inflame, and demonize one group to convince the rest that there needs to be new laws, new legislation to address the problems they themselves have created.

Unfortunately at this point, the larger mainstream group of people can't quite see this. They're too disctracted or mislead.

Inga म्हणाले...

“There are no actual Nazis, bless your heart. They were dealt with in 1945.”

I used the term “Nazis” because that is the term Matt Sablan and others have used, dumbass. I would not use the term Nazis. I would say white supremacists.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Here are a couple of questions for Inga:

Do you consider anybody who believes the elections were likely rigged for Biden an “insurrectionist”?

Do you consider anybody who believes sincerely that the Hunter BIden laptop demonstrates irrefutably that the Bidens are corrupt a traitor?

narciso म्हणाले...


a view from someone who has been across the pond,

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/01/i-watched-bidens-inauguration-first-hand-katie-hopkins/

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.

Fritz म्हणाले...

According to John Brennan, Biden “Nominees and Appointees Are Moving in Laser-Like Fashion” To Target and “Root-Out” Political Opposition, Including Libertarians

Video at link. And yes, he does say it, and it's not a slip of the tongue.

Wince म्हणाले...

Trump "punched up and across" toward competing elites.

Biden punches down.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Tim in Vermont

Inag still thinks Russia stole the 2016 election. But that one is OK.

Rick म्हणाले...

Matt Sablan said...
"In fact it was a campaign speech criticizing Republicans during the Mitt Romney / Obama campaign. This is who he referred to."

-- Technically, the slavery comment was Mitt Romney; the Nazi comment targeted Ted Cruz.


This is not my error, it's hers. She's pretending the slavery comment was made about Nazis rather than Republicans.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"I would say white supremacists."

DBI,

There are more proud and 'out' black supremacists than white ones.

Start with the Congressional Black Caucus.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"Say that "the election was stolen" anywhere near me, and you're going to get called on it.”

Why don’t you then show my how the story I posted above about how the elections are fixed in PA is fale? That would be a good way to call me on it! Why don’t you show me that the PA Supreme Court judge mentioned in the story is not the brother of a mobster convicted of ballot stuffing? That would be a good first step.

Inga म्हणाले...

Until Trumpists can see their way out of their cultist ideas, like the election being stolen (and other Trump and Q fantasies) they aren’t going to move forward. If they insist on being left behind while the rest of us move forward...oh well, so sad for them.

MayBee म्हणाले...

If you want a place in American civic life, you can only say the 2000, 2004, and 2016 elections were stolen.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

HALE: Proctor, if she is innocent the court…

PROCTOR: If she is innocent! Why do you never wonder if Parris be innocent, or Abigail? Is the accuser always holy now? Were they born this morning as clean as God‘s fingers? I‘ll tell you what‘s walking Salem—vengeance is walking Salem. We are what we always were in Salem, but now the little crazy children are jangling the keys of the kingdom, and common vengeance writes the law! This warrant‘s vengeance; I will not give my wife to vengeance!

-- A reading of the Crucible might be helpful for those who see extremism in cautious moderation, even if that cautious moderation means not agreeing with the majority.

Howard म्हणाले...

I feel your pain... and it's delicious.

Wince म्हणाले...

Potemkin Inauguration.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"If they insist on being left behind while the rest of us move forward...oh well, so sad for them."

This sounds so commie.

"Move forward into our glorious future, with a hammer in one hand and a sickle in the other, comrades."

I can just see you wearing the state uniform with the little red kerchief.

Drago म्हणाले...

Howard: "I was told by you people that only dogs here dog whistling."

Its not a dog whistle and hundreds of the democratical minions are running around and making it even more explicit, as are the policies being pushed.

Howard's time would be better spent getting Inga back on the "antifa is a myth" reservation since our Very Very Forgetful Inga slipped up this morning in referring to "antifa tactics", which is an impossibility if antifa is just a myth.

Good luck trying to narrative-ly corral that loose cannon Howard. You've got your work cut out for you.

Even worse for Howard is that the other "wrench in the lefty rhetorical gears", LLR-lefty Chuck (who supports underage sexual groomers) popped in trying to help Howards cause.

Yikes!

What a morning for Howard.

Pro-marxist LLR-lefty Chuck better ve grateful that an armed Howard is not standing behind him otherwise Chucky would be immediately fragged.

Kevin म्हणाले...

Shorter Biden: If you're white, we'll tell you what you can do for your country. If you're not, we'll tell you what your country can do for you.

Calypso Facto म्हणाले...

And right on cue, John Brennan comes out to clarify that, by "extremists" in "insurgency movements" that must be quashed with "laser-like focus" from the US secret police, he means ... Libertarians.

Rand Paul now on notice, no dissent will be harbored.

walter म्हणाले...

"What the fucking fuck" C__.
YOU don't belong on this blog.
I know no one else wants you, but still.

Inga म्हणाले...

“She's pretending the slavery comment was made about Nazis rather than Republicans.”

I’m speaking of Biden’s inauguration speech. I’m not concerned about what Matt Sablan is trying to prove with his reference to Mitt Romney. Romney supported voting for Biden. If Romney had taken Biden the same way Matt Sablan did, he wouldn’t have encouraged Americans to vote for Biden.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"like the election being stolen” - Inag

So you can’t refute the story that the FBI has convicted a guy of ballot stuffing in PA and that his brother is a PA Supreme Court judge either then can you? The story that mentions that the judges who were elected via this illegal ballot stuffing, per the FBI, still sit on the courts in PA and we don’t even know if these are the judges who rejected requests to monitor the ballot counting in PA?

I didn’t think so. Instead you use cult though stopping techniques to avoid thinking about it yourself.

Spiros Pappas म्हणाले...

"Anybody who seriously maintains that the 2020 presidential election was "stolen" has no place in American civic life."

At least 68% of eligible voters voted nationwide. In some states like Oklahoma, only 55% voted. In other states voter participation hit 80%. This is odd. No way fraud occurred on election day at the polls. But something is off about the mail in votes.
We need a random survey of the mail in voters to make sure that these people actually voted. Check their signatures too.

Kevin म्हणाले...

Uniting to fight the foes we face: anger, resentment and hatred, extremism, lawlessness, violence, disease, joblessness, and hopelessness.

Joe has shown you the crimes.

The party of unity will show him the men.

Howard म्हणाले...

Just wait Inga, they are going to blast libtards to the moon. They are the macho testosterone fueled real men with all the guns who do all the work. Any day now TO THE MOON. They tried going Galt, but all the top capitalism successful people are libtards. The My Pillow guy doesn't cut ice, apparently.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Brennan is a psychopath and a criminal.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"nga slipped up this morning in referring to "antifa tactics", “

Antifa has turned on Biden. If you thing about the Hitler Stalin pact and what happened in the US left as soon as Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, it all makes sense. History is very enlightening.

Matt Sablan म्हणाले...

"I’m speaking of Biden’s inauguration speech. I’m not concerned about what Matt Sablan is trying to prove with his reference to Mitt Romney. Romney supported voting for Biden. If Romney had taken Biden the same way Matt Sablan did, he wouldn’t have encouraged Americans to vote for Biden."

-- In essence, once again, history started anew for Democrats, and things said years ago aren't important.

I honestly believe that, given the current tenor, there is a good chance Democrats reading the Crucible might root FOR Abigail and Danforth in their zealous search for witches.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

hundreds of people signed sworn affidavits that they witnesses election fraud.

They must all be lying.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Antifa wants Bernie.

tcrosse म्हणाले...

Every year at the opening of Parliament the Queen reads a speech which was written by the Prime Minister and his cabinet. Nobody expects Her Majesty to actually believe a word of it. Biden's speech is the same sort of thing. he is the figurehead of a "constitutional" monarchy.

Drago म्हणाले...

Russia Collusion Dead Ender Truther Inga: "Until Trumpists can see their way out of their cultist ideas, like the election being stolen (and other Trump and Q fantasies)"

Morgan Freeman Narrator Voice: Inga neglected to mention that she fervently believes Putin installed Trump as President in 2016 by changing vote totals, that Kavanaugh led a rape gang for 2 years, that Trump has been a long time russian spy and money launderer for the russian mobs/oligarchs, that Trump secretly communicated with the russians via server "pings" between Trump Tower and Alpha Bank, that Carter Page and Michael Flynn were active russian agents, that Trump paid hookers to pee on beds,...etc etc etc.

(This list could contain approximately 200+ items)

Jaq म्हणाले...

"We need a random survey of the mail in voters to make sure that these people actually voted. Check their signatures too.”

Insurrectionist!!!

wendybar म्हणाले...

You obviously haven't been watching what the left wing radicals have been calling us all for the last 5 years.

Inga म्हणाले...

“The My Pillow guy doesn't cut ice, apparently._

Hahaha, the guy who wanted Trump to declare martial law, hey give the guy a chance!

Jaq म्हणाले...

BTW, mail in voters were called and a large percentage of Republicans who told the interviewer that they mailed in a ballot in key states never had their votes counted.

This is a credible claim made by an outfit that called hundreds of thousands of voters after the election. But these claims cannot be heard in a court of law because insurrection!

Rick म्हणाले...

Inga said...
“She's pretending the slavery comment was made about Nazis rather than Republicans.”

I’m speaking of Biden’s inauguration speech. I’m not concerned about what Matt Sablan is trying to prove with his reference to Mitt Romney. Romney supported voting for Biden. If Romney had taken Biden the same way Matt Sablan did, he wouldn’t have encouraged Americans to vote for Biden.


Untrue. Romney just accepts this level of hatefulness from Dems as de rigour. His decision against Trump says nothing about what he thinks of Biden or about this comment. But this claim does show how Inga accepts the flimsiest defenses as irrefutable fact when they protect her precious narrative.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

AA: Here's what I found:

Here's what you missed:

"The “systemic racism” conceit means that every American institution is illegitimate and needs to be reconstructed.

Biden’s cabinet nominees, whether in health, finance, environmental policy, or education, have declared that eradicating systemic racism is their top priority."

walter म्हणाले...

BidenFamilyTaxPayerFundedCrackPipe said...
hundreds of people signed sworn affidavits that they witnesses election fraud.
They must all be lying.
--
So wrong!
Thousands.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Rand Paul now on notice, no dissent will be harbored.”

Rand Paul can dissent all he wants, we 81 million can call him a crack pot.

Drago म्हणाले...

tim in vermont: "Antifa has turned on Biden. If you thing about the Hitler Stalin pact and what happened in the US left as soon as Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, it all makes sense. History is very enlightening."

Its a mistake to recite history to democraticals/LLR-lefties. First, they cant remember anything beyond 15 minutes ago (see: everything Inga has written for as long as she has been an adult). Second, democraticals simply make up history as they go. See readering turning Stalin into a hero by invading Poland from the east as Hitler invaded from the west. Readering literally did not know about the Hitler-Stalin pact (Ribbentropp/Molotov).

Also recall that Inga literally called the 100+ million murdered by communists in the 20th century a conspiracy.

See the pattern again?

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