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"Joe E. Jeffreys, a drag historian at N.Y.U., told me that academics are having a field day with 'the representation of America' in the show..."

"With its 'fun-house-mirror magnification' of social codes, 'Drag Race' is a bonanza for scholars.[*] It’s been the subject of multiple academic anthologies. Jeffreys teaches a semester-long class called 'RuPaul’s Drag Race and Its Impact.' Students study the history of American drag, going back to vaudeville, and spend weeks examining how 'Drag Race' handles topics such as gender, race, class, body image, fashion, and ethnicity. They unpack slang terms like 'hog body' (an unfeminine physique) and 'hunty' (a term of endearment). The course lasts fifteen weeks, but, Jeffreys said, 'We’re really just scratching the surface.'"

From "Can 'RuPaul’s Drag Race' Save Us from Donald Trump?" by Lizzie Widdicombe in The New Yorker. The headline promises more than the (short) article can deliver. All there is about Trump is the observation that he contributes to the impression that American politics is a reality show and — at the end — the assertion that "Growing up in the Trump era is 'forcing kids to mature much faster.'"

I'm more interested in the idea that college students are taking semester-long courses on the topic of drag, taught by academics who are finding enough material to write about in a scholarly way, and that the writing has piled up to the point where there are multiple anthologies. I don't think the article states a single idea that sounds academic.
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* Ironically, "Bonanza" is a drag race for scholars. This footnote is not part of the New Yorker article but an original insight by me, Ann Althouse, and I note that the characters on "Bonanza" were famous for always wearing the same clothes and that these were stereotypically manly clothes (other than, perhaps, the high heels worn by Little Joe, who was considered, at 5'9", too little even to be the one with the name "Little").

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Clyde म्हणाले...

"A fool and his money are soon parted."

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Will Brit Hume become part of the lore now?

Narr म्हणाले...

Seriously? You made your career on a large public university campus and are surprised to find that there are actual courses in stuff like this?

Maybe I've missed an earlier reference (I just got here this morning) or a satirical tell . . . .

Narr
Or maybe my brain ain't warmed up yet

Nonapod म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"Seriously? You made your career on a large public university campus and are surprised to find that there are actual courses in stuff like this?... Or maybe my brain ain't warmed up yet."

Yes, you are not warmed up yet. You assumed I was surprised. I didn't say I was surprised. I said I was interested. Not every interesting thing is surprising. Do not conflate these concepts!

Wince म्हणाले...

Why not, Bernie will forgive your student loans!

Nonapod म्हणाले...

While I think the popularity of Drag Race is probably a worthy topic of investigation, I don't know if it's worth "multiple academic anthologies". It's interesting that we're at a point that "drag" is at least more tolerated.

All there is about Trump is the observation that he contributes to the impression that American politics is a reality show and — at the end — the assertion that "Growing up in the Trump era is 'forcing kids to mature much faster.'"

I don't believe that kids "matur[ing] much faster" has anything to do with Trump, it's more the result the over sexaulizing of practically every aspect of our culture (which, it could be argued, Drag Race contributes to).

3/4/20, 9:17 AM

Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

Kids will definitely be forced to grow up faster when they see Rudy Giuliani in drag motorboating Donald Trump.

Ken B म्हणाले...

Much of academia is a scam.

henry म्हणाले...

Drag history? I take it that doesn't include Big Daddy Don Garlits kind of drag.

Rory म्हणाले...

"Ironically, "Bonanza" is a drag race for scholars."

Historic value can be found in the episode, "A Pink Cloud Comes from Old Cathay." Through an unlikely mixup, Hoss receives a feisty Chinese mail-order bride named Tai Lee, engagingly portrayed by Marlo Thomas.

Lucid-Ideas म्हणाले...

My answer when playing 'king for a day' to the question of what would I do first is 'drop napalm and white phosphorous' on all US universities.

Not even a joke. Would be my first action. Kill them with fire. If Washington or Jefferson were alive today I have no doubt they'd agree. Kill. Them. With fire.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Ann: I'm appalled that your alma mater finds it a fitting and proper use of resources to have a professor in the made-up field of "drag history."

My son took a course on genocide at Loyola Law School - LA. I didn't think that was a good use of this time.

What's next? The cultural impact of "The Simpsons?"

I guess that's better than climate "science."

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

So Paglia's observations in SexualPersonea must be forgotten. The Academics want the whole social scene re-interpreted as a "Meat Market." And the more meats that are on the menu the better. And it's all you can eat night every night.

FTR: Paglia tied the restraints on violence ( a/k/a having a civil society)to restraints on sexual impulses. And she's is still spot on.

Ken B म्हणाले...

“ I don't believe that kids "matur[ing] much faster" has anything to do with Trump”

They aren’t. Most 20 year olds are less mature than twenty year olds were decades ago. But odd things are happening that have nothing to do with politics. Girls are hitting puberty earlier than they used to. Guys are getting taller. Chemicals of some sort presumably.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Pointless regulations are a drag on the economy. Trump the reality show saw that.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

I'm looking to hire a couple dozen people right now as machinists, plant maintenance, and machine operators. This is exactly the kind of knowledge I'm hoping to find in applicants. Real world, hands-on, skills like reliable gaydar, an eye for the kind of cloths that hide an erection, and well-practiced makeup skills to hide a 5-o'clock shadow. A few people like that can make an organization hum like a fine tuned sports car.

Iman म्हणाले...

Yes to Nonapod at 9:17am... agreed.

Some Seppo म्हणाले...

https://deadline.com/2018/06/rupauls-drag-race-hits-all-time-highs-with-season-10-ratings-1202419952/

Season 10 also averaged 469,000 viewers in the 18-49 demo, which is up 6%, and overall viewership of 723,000 was up 2%, making it the most-watched season in Drag Race history.

What a cultural juggernaut that show is. There should be entire museums dedicated to it. But seriosly, this is just more "Twitterization" of everything marginal.

Maillard Reactionary म्हणाले...

AA: "I said I was interested..."

Well, "interesting" covers a lot of territory, doesn't it? Some of the things that people eat in third-world countries are interesting. The Mutter Museum in Philadelphia is full of interesting preserved medical specimens.

We've set up trusts for our grandchildrens' education, among other things. The Trustee will be specifically enjoined from wasting our money to pay for this kind of crap indoctrination. If they want to study something other than engineering, the sciences, medicine, or law, there will be a list of permissible colleges that they can choose from. Otherwise they're on their own.

Not bulletproof, of course, but maybe the best you can do when you're dead.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

I don't find it interesting at all. I find it dispicable that people employed to train humans to support themselves would take so much money and give such useless, self-indulgent playtime in return leaving the students deeply in debt, and themselves well paid with a lifetime of support without taking on any of the risk. It's fraud in my opinion, and committed against a vulnerable population who should be getting help from their well-paid elders rather than exploitation. I also suspect that people teaching such courses to young adults might have more than an academic interest in showing and discussing such topics to young attractive nubile students with less than fully developed moral principles and personal standards.

frenchy म्हणाले...

Sounding like an old curmudgeon, higher ed these days has been thoroughly corrupted by academic sloth, resulting in whimsy and fanciful takes on pop culture.

Jaq म्हणाले...

If you ask me, the show that influenced politics the most in the Millennial cohort was Glee.

I think you could do an academic study of it, but first you would have to admit that it was unadulterated propaganda. If you did that, you would risk getting “cancelled."

Jaq म्हणाले...

"I find it dispicable that people employed to train humans to support themselves “

You forgot the word “ostensibly.”

rcocean म्हणाले...

Are young boys getting taller? I doubt it. Girl are hitting puberty earlier, reason unknown. Anyway, most kids today, especially those who go to college, don't start becoming adults until they're 22-25. Not like the old days. I had an uncle who'd fought in Korea, got married, and had 2 kids and a house by the time he was 25. And that wasn't unusual.

Jaq म्हणाले...

As I recall, at 18, I was ready to make a go of it in the world on my own, as were most of my friends. Trump was still collecting rents for his dad at the time.

Lloyd W. Robertson म्हणाले...

Love the footnote. I recall Michael Landon on one of the talk shows: none of the "boys" on Bonanza were gay, but thank God Hop Sing was. I guess not a joke one can tell any more.

rcocean म्हणाले...

The liberal arts should just be eliminated. The professors are left-wing clowns and its romper room time for them and the students. If peeps are concerned about the price of education, just reduce College from 4 years to 3 years, and cut out the Liberal arts classes everyone is forced to take as a freshman.

Jaq म्हणाले...

That being said, I watched Drag Race with my daughters, along with Gilmore Girls and Glee, and Glee was the one that I used to really object to as being pure propaganda.

Earlier on I had forbidden Nickelodeon in my house for the way they portrayed fathers. The wife agreed with me, oddly.

rcocean म्हणाले...

fiancees were short lived on Bonanza. The quickest way to a pine box, was an engagement to "one of the boys".

rcocean म्हणाले...

Personally, i find sexual deviancy boring. Drag queens, homosexuality, etc. I'm reading the diary of a English film critic who was turned on by "spanking". He found it incredibly interesting, and kept photos and love notes of those he "spanked". Honestly, it struck me as absurd and after a while very dull.

Narr म्हणाले...

Interesting =/= Surprising. Fair enough.

Now as for exterminating them academic varmints, no. Universities still do good things, and it's to the credit of our culture that it has a place for smart, creative people who are so weird that only a few dozen other people in the whole wide world know what they're talking about, or why.

That's not a comment on the value of Dr. JEJ's work, just an observation from a retired academic. For myself, I'd rather see tax money spent on work like his than on business school profs with specialties like the history of accounting or parks and leisure management--who will make multiples of what Dr. JEJ does (adjusting for race, gender orientation, and willingness to suck admin cock).

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Admin cock don't suck itself


JAORE म्हणाले...

"Drag Historian" another opportunity I missed at Career Day in High School.

CWJ म्हणाले...

On first reading of your heading, I took it that he was an historian in drag. I'm still not sure I'm wrong.

brylun म्हणाले...

I'm for stopping federally insured educational loans for non-STEM. Also, stop the Chinese from taking STEM courses here (those are the only Chinese majors).

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Drag wasn't important in history until the motorcar, that got speeds up to where square-law drag began to be significant. Until then it had been mostly viscous drag. Square-law rises fast but it also falls fast going the other way.

Char Char Binks, Esq. म्हणाले...

"Not every interesting thing is surprising. Do not conflate these concepts!"

"Interesting" is synonymous with "boring". When a subject isn't quite stirring, thrilling, or lively enough to warrant being called exciting, provocative, or astonishing, we say it's interesting.

chuck म्हणाले...

Everything I know about drag I learned from Monty Python and Benny Hill. Rule Britannia.

Fernandinande म्हणाले...

we say it's interesting.

This thread is eye-popping.

You assumed I was surprised. I didn't say I was surprised.

You said so inadvertently, or at least said that the idea of these garbage classes was new to you: "I'm more interested in the idea that college students are taking semester-long courses on the topic of drag,"

Are you interested in the idea that college students are taking semester-long courses in history or math?

J. Farmer म्हणाले...

Drag is gay satire on femininity. It’s fun for a lark, but if you’re around it any length of time, it gets real old real fast.

J. Farmer म्हणाले...

p.s. While I think a semester-long course on a TV show is over-the-top, drag is certainly a subject for serious study. It exists in many societies and has long been a popular trope even in mainstream comedy.

DKWalser म्हणाले...

I'm more interested in the idea that college students are taking semester-long courses on the topic of drag, taught by academics who are finding enough material to write about in a scholarly way, and that the writing has piled up to the point where there are multiple anthologies. I don't think the article states a single idea that sounds academic.

I think this reflects the lowering of academic standards more than anything else. When I started college, I majored in English. This was in the early 1980's, before the social sciences and academics were completely ruined as a 'real' discipline. But, even then, the ruin was underway. The study of English literature was, at its bottom, supposed to be a 'search for the truth'. The premise was that literature could give us insights into human nature. However, I quickly learned that 'success' in literary analysis didn't depend on discovering the truth, but on being novel or provocative. It depended on using the review of literature for promoting popular (mostly liberal) causes. It certainly didn't require rigor or discipline in thought or approach to the subject.

Discussing the 'meaning' in the arrangement of a bunch of twigs and bird bones tossed onto the ground had as much intellectual merit. From such roots it's not far to a discipline discussing the 'truth' to be learned from the history of drag. The 'scholars' already have the truth they want to share, the art is in using drag to deliver that message.

Char Char Binks, Esq. म्हणाले...

Bonanza was interesting. Despite the occasional dust-up, tussle, or ruckus, it was pretty much just a soap opera set in the Old West, much like "The Big Valley" and "Little House on the Prairie" (Minnesota was westward enough in those days to qualify).

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Q: Whats the difference between a drag queen and a clown?

A: Drag queens used to be adult entertainment.

tcrosse म्हणाले...

Everything I know about drag I learned from Monty Python and Benny Hill. Rule Britannia.

Everything I know about drag I learned from Milton Berle and the Ritz Brothers.

William म्हणाले...

I guess if you have the interest, time to spare and money to burn, it's not so stupid. Beats running for President. I wouldn't advise anyone to go into debt to pursue such a course of study, however......I spent four high school years memorizing irregular Latin verbs and trying to read Virgil. I didn't get much out of it. Teachers have been force feeding different varieties of crap down students' gullets for centuries.

William म्हणाले...

Milton Berle's autobiography is well worth reading. He lived his life as a full on transvestite (if that's the term) without ever realizing what the fuck was going on with his psyche. I wonder whether his success should make him a role model for cross dressers or, alternately, whether his denial of his state should make him a cautionary tale for cross dressers. This is a subject for a doctoral dissertation. There is much to be examined in the literature of cross dressers.

Temujin म्हणाले...

"Academics" does not mean what they think it means.

PM म्हणाले...

Drag is nothing more than blackface that's OK.

Lucien म्हणाले...

If kids are maturing earlier how come they’re not allowed to go out and play until their (stay at home parent, or caregiver) calls them for supper; and have to learn “adulting” after five or six years in college?

Charlie म्हणाले...

So is he a "drag historian" or a "historian of drag"? Or maybe a "drag historian of drag"? Not sure I want to read the article to find out.

gerry म्हणाले...

I'm more interested in the idea that college students are taking semester-long courses on the topic of drag, taught by academics who are finding enough material to write about in a scholarly way, and that the writing has piled up to the point where there are multiple anthologies. I don't think the article states a single idea that sounds academic.

There probably is no single idea in drag studies that is actually academic. Tax subsidies help pay for such bullshit. Sad.

tcrosse म्हणाले...

Anthologize this.

stevew म्हणाले...

I just can't get past the fact that there is a "Drag Historian" at a large, generally well thought of University.

stevew म्हणाले...

Off topic: I am currently commenting from a plane. No one is wearing a mask, lots of passengers are wiping down surfaces before they touch, sit, etc.

JaimeRoberto म्हणाले...

Gosh, this really makes me want to forgive student debt.

RobinGoodfellow म्हणाले...

“ 3/4/20, 9:43 AM
Blogger rcocean said...
fiancees were short lived on Bonanza. The quickest way to a pine box, was an engagement to ‘one of the boys’.”

It was genetic. After all, their father, Ben, buried 3 wives.

n.n म्हणाले...

Trans-social with a conflation of genders, although not sexes.

HoodlumDoodlum म्हणाले...

Ann Althouse said...I don't think the article states a single idea that sounds academic.

Ding ding ding! Gosh why are these kids graduating with hundreds of thousands of dollars of student debt and then finding themselves unable to obtain gainful employment with their liberal arts degrees? Mystery!

Churchy LaFemme: म्हणाले...

It's not an obviously stupid thing to study. For instance, all the female roles in Shakespeare were played by men. It would be kind of interesting to know if the roles attracted gay men, or anyway how they played them and how the crowd reacted etc. The same for the "Mrs. Twanky" pantomine tradition etc.

That said, it's PhD. type stuff, not something you waste undergrads very limited time on.

Churchy LaFemme: म्हणाले...

Dang it! "Widow Twanky", not "Mrs. Twanky".

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Speaking of Don Garlitts, Shirley Muldowney is still alive and kicking. What a competitor she was in her time. Handed whole lotta racers their asses. First woman to get a Top Fuel license from NHRA. Only person to win 3 NHRA Top Fuel Championship titles. Broke every "glass cieling" in her line of work which was a totally masculine game. Couple of movies too!

The Godfather म्हणाले...

I don't see how "the characters on 'Bonanza'" could have "been famous for always wearing the same clothes", when that was a characteristic of virtually all Westerns of that era (and probably TV shows of a lot of other genres, too). Wyatt Earp (OK, 2 sets of clothes), Paladin, Maverick (both brothers (? or were they cousins?) wore the same clothes as I recall), Gunsmoke (even Chester wore the same clothes in almost every episode), Wanted Dead or Alive, etc. It was a continuity issue. If you had your hero wear a particular outfit in Scene 6, when he was leaving the saloon, then you had to make sure he was wearing the same outfit in Scene 7, when he was walking out of the saloon onto the street. But the two scenes might have been filmed/taped weeks apart. Easier if he always wore the same outfit. Not anything to get "famous" for.

pacwest म्हणाले...

Shirley your kidding me. As long it's not a requirement, and the student taking the course isn't on a scholarship - whatever. No law against blowing your (or your parents) money. It's an argument against forgiving student loans though.

ALP म्हणाले...

bagoh20: Q: Whats the difference between a drag queen and a clown?

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Nothing these days. The drag queens I knew in the 80's were classy and elegant. Modern drag queens have an attraction to excess and an over-the-top, garish aesthetic. Much of the makeup I see appears right out of Barnum and Bailey.

When "Drag Queen Story Time" began to make waves I thought 'it isn't the gender thing pissing people off but a common dislike and/or fear of CLOWNS.'