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२०९ टिप्पण्या:
209 पैकी 1 – 200 नवीन› नवीनतम»Kanye isn't a rep.
I think the new congress woman should keep talking.
Please.
I thought Trump's response was funny, he's playing the game.
Did Kayne say that? It wasn't reported where I saw it, so I wouldn't take some anonymous commenters word on it.
It didn't doesn't excuse her vulgarity, which outdoes anything Trump has done publicly (and no, "grab them by the pussy doesn't count" when it was said privately).
Typical liberal: it’s ok that we do it because they do it too. But they suck for doing it.
Apart from each being a unique situation, that’s not the part people are getting upset about.
Calling oneself a MF is one thing. Calling the President one is another. This freshman Congresswoman is trying to make the front page and is, alas, succeeding. I have a feeling that the veteran Dems will destroy her as well as others of her ilk. Subtly, of course. Wait until she finds out how many hours a week she has to spend on fundraising. Wait until she crosses Pelosi.
Is a top-rated comment a good comment, or a worthless comment like the one in the blog post?
I've been told by black people that white people don't know how to say the word.
She used motherfucker correctly. It's a here's-my-attitude thing.
The attitude as taking its place in congress is the problem. Get the president isn't its function.
The problem isn't that she said "M----F----r." The problem is she seems hell-bent on impeaching Trump for all sorts of reasons, including policy and partisan differences, without waiting for the full evidence. Gives the game away.
I thought Trump's response was funny,
I thought it was very nuanced. Arabs have a strong sense of honor and shame. He said she was Dishonored. That was funny but also made a serious point to her and her supporters.
Who knows if it has any impact but it was very well thought out.
The Hypocrites are the ones who are supposed to go high....When are they going to start? Funny thing is they are acting just like the person they supposedly are getting the vapors from!!
The WaPo readership doesn't know the difference between black folks jokingly throwing around the N-word, and its aggressive use by white nationalists.
Stupid is as stupid does.
Again- Kanye is not an elected representative.
Will someone drill that into the twitter twits.
Perhaps it's because Pelosi said it wasn't okay for Trump to call MS-13 gang members, "animals."
The only "vulgarities" I've ever heard attributed to Trump were spoken in private. I've never heard him say so much as a "damn" in front of the cameras.
The fact that he is constantly accused of being infinitely "vulgar" despite this tells me all I need to know about the agenda of those making that accusation.
The Democrats have turned the start of a new Congress into a circus. I hope America is paying attention.
Meanwhile, Trump is delivering on his promises regarding jobs, GDP and wage growth. Drudge does a nice job this morning with the Democrat/Trump contrast.
The WaPo commenter's analogy does not hold up. As Scott Adams might put it:
"There's nothing wrong with [A], because it is kinda-sorta similar to [B]."
mockturtle said...
I have a feeling that the veteran Dems will destroy her as well as others of her ilk.
I expect she, Omar, and Ocasio-Cortez are all going to get a visit from the Majority Whip and be told; "here's the line, now tow it!". They will either obey or be marginalized by the party. It's going to be glorious because it will drive the press (average age 27, per Ben Rhodes) completely crazy.
Just because the motherfucker defeated the rapist's wife in the Presidential election, is no reason to dishonor yourself by going off halfcocked on an impeachment expedition.
john marzan totally Stole what i was going to say...
The problem isn't that she said "M----F----r." The problem is she seems hell-bent on impeaching Trump
You "toe" the line, you don't "tow" it. Towing the line is for oxen pulling barges through a canal.
The good news is in order to continue the faux storylines of GOP outrage over college videos and m-fers the Dems have to continue and up the volume on crazy.
Jeff incorrectly said...
You "toe" the line, you don't "tow" it. Towing the line is for oxen pulling barges through a canal.
HELLO! My Gal Sal would like to remind you that it's Mules that pull barges (under low bridges)
I suppose oxes (oxens?) Could pull barges;but no one's going to write songs about them
I have a feeling that the veteran Dems will destroy her as well as others of her ilk.
Neither party seems to have control of its members. Each party appears to be in thrall to voters absorbed by their own brand of wacky populism. The substitution of name-calling for even the pretense of argument or basic principles is more evidence that our legislators are too emotional, and perhaps too darn stupid, to take their designated jobs seriously.
If we thought we had gridlock for the last 30 years or so, well, it's about to get worse.
WaPo comments section is poorly designed. Most popular (as case here) is usually one of 1st dozen posted. And then you have this visually awful cascade of sub-comments where fanatics scream insults at each other. Love reading NYTimes comments section, but WaPo’s sucks. Can’t believe they don’t fix it.
WaPo and NYT are echo chambers.
Focus on the "MF" is missing the point. The fact is, she is speaking for every Democrat Representative in stating that they are ready and willing to impeach Trump right now. The final report from Mueller, tax returns or oversight subpoenas are all a charade.
If you voted for a Democrat in any House or Senate race in 2018, you voted to impeach (or convict) Trump. If you didn't realize that, you got played.
I didn't get the vapors over her and I'd love her to star in open mic night regularly. Along with her other new friends in congress. Let no one be bashful.
For lucidity of thought and rapier-like wit, I think I'd take Althouse commentators over WaPo commentators.
Toeing the line is a boxing term. A couple of centuries ago, the opponents had to meet in the dirt ring and toe the line before the fight began. Now they touch gloves.
You Never Met a Motherf**ker Quite Like Me
Kid Rock
Yep
I've been on the cover of the rolling stone
I met the president when I was half stoned
I been so high I've gotten confused
I been beat down, broke and used
Motherf***er
I drank with hank, talked blues with billy
Rocked with run sang with shotgun willy
Went from small time philly to big time bobby
From 3 day old chili to saki with wosabi
I'm home hey I'm home
You never met a motherf***er quite like me
Not like me, dida dada like me, hey like me
No more bein' poured drink specials at winners
Or being ignored by the think straight sinners
I used to smoke pinners while my moms made dinner
Now I smoke bombs and rock with lynyrd skynyrd
No beginners here I'm a seasoned vet
Educated on jazz by my man amed
Heard again my friend I been the world n back
But I'm michigan boy can you feel that
And I'm home
You never met a motherf***er quite like me
Not like me, god damn like me, hey hey like me
Never thought I'd go as far in life as this
Never made par and I could give 2 s***s
Never wanted sell cars cause my dad was a dick
Never wanted a guitar 'till I heard a lick like this
And from the depths of dixie to my northern spots
You know its time to rock when ole glory drops
I pimp through town with the top laid back
Black hat, fine blonde, cold pabst in my lap
I'll adapt
To any and all situations
Thats why the call me the pimp of the nation
Hey b**** you best believe I live in the woods not your world of greed
Might, a little weed might a little yeah
I'm so proud to be living in the usa
You've never met a motherf***er quite like me
Hey hey like me, da di da da stay like me, hey hey hey like me
You aint ever met and you aint never going meet
You never met a ,never met a ,never never never never met a
Motherf***er quite like me
You aint never met a mother like me
Hey you aint never never never never never met someone like me
(hey hey)
Never met like me,
(hey hey)
(hey dude hey)
Never met a mother like me
(come on, hey)
And you never, and never gonna never gonna meeeeeet
(hey come on already)
You never meeeeeeeet
(stop)
What?
(dude, theres more to life that just you)
Hahaha
Songwriters: R.J. Ritchie / Allen Collins / Ronald Vanzant
You Never Met a Motherf**ker Quite Like Me lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc, Universal Music Publishing Group
She’s a vulgarian. She doesn’t have the temperament for the office.
All those proggies using Kanye - they are all racists.
Sunrise and a day ending in "Y" revive Trump impeachment talk.
Actually, to fill the loafers of John Conyers, she seems perfectly suited (er, footed).
I'm not sure if Fernandistan is asking a serious question, but in WaPo "top rated" means comments with the most likes by other readers. Almost without exception, top rated comments are of the Orange Man Bad variety. if you want your particular OMB comment to get more likes, relative to others: be among the first to comment, and include a hilariously funny nickname for Trump or his supporters, like "drumpf" or "trumpkins". It doesn't hurt to use uncouth language.
The only "vulgarities" I've ever heard attributed to Trump were spoken in private. I've never heard him say so much as a "damn" in front of the cameras.
To be fair, he did say he would "bomb the shit" out of ISIS publically during the campaign.
The Leftists will follow the same strategy they used in the recall of Wisconsin Governor Walker a few years ago. This is include as much of the bats*** crazy as they can muster.
Why do they call deplorables ships of the Oval Office? Because they are full of Trump semen.
Congrats to Inga for getting that top-rated comment in the WaPo!
Howard-the-educated-fool thought that was funny.
I think the House will impeach Trump- I don't think Pelosi has the strength to defy it at this point. It won't turn out the the way the Democrats hope, though.
John Marzan already posted the answer. I guess we could go through all the Democrats that denied impeachment on the campaign trail, when everyone knew that's what they wanted to do. Maybe see how much Tom Steyer donated to the Reps cause, and note that she was bought by a billionaire and eager to do his bidding.
Trump has been called worse things by better people.
Tlaib is a Jew-hating Palestinian American. She's just getting warmed up. Her Detroit constituents are so proud of her!
@Yancy Ward, whether they vote “aye” on impeachment or “nay” on impeachment, the Blue Dog Democrats are looking at their last term in office — for many it will be their only term in office. So if she wants to hang onto her gavel last 2020 it’s in Nancy Pelosi’s interest to forestall an impeachment vote. Does she have the clout and the votes to do so?
Tcrosse: thanks for your support!
It must be a slow news day - our host is trolling with false-stooped analogies, File under 'Althouse AOC haters drivel'.
I caught a whiff of real hatred behind the sentiment. Trump is vulgar and insults his opponents, but it's more WWF bombast than real hatred. ......Hypocrisy is a universal trait, but it's more common among the self righteous. I don't get a self righteous vibe from Trump. He is what he is.
Leftists get the vapors when Trump says both sides in a riot were wrong or calls everyone, including a black woman, "dog". They relentlessly check the grammar and spelling of his tweets, and call him unpresidential for TWEETING IN CAPS. They constantly call for him to be impeached for nothing more than percieved incivility, but when Rep. Rashida Tlaib calls him a Motherfucker they rush to her defense! Can you say f-ng hypocritical?
chickenlittle wins the thread.
Brad Sherman (D) was quoted: I haven’t used a single word in two years on this that my 9-, 8- and 7-year-old daughters shouldn’t see. . . . I never critique the style of my colleagues, but her style is definitely not my style.
Tlaib gave us insight into how hatred is passed generation-to-generation: Inculcate your children at the youngest age possible. It's related to how and why we saw ISIS executions performed by children.
Most men, by definition, are "motherfuckers". I don't find it all insulting.
Recall that moment in 2012 DNC convention when there was a voice vote to reinsert language recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? Guess who was opposed to President Obama's insistence that the language be reinserted?
Rashida Tlaib
The proper response to being called a motherfucker is to reply: "Yea, but your mom begged me."
When we have Sharia Law, there will be an Imam that will strip her to the waist and lash her good. Women must know their place.
It's not the words she used, it's the hatred she revealed.
Is there such a thing as unrequited hatred? That's why I compare her to Sirhan Sirhan (who by the way is unrepentant).
Nonapod:
"To be fair, he did say he would "bomb the shit" out of ISIS publically during the campaign."
Fair enough, though that particular example isn't one I find at all troubling. But even if we were to call that outrageous equivalent to "motherfucker"... that's it? THAT is what has every leftist and NeverTrumper in high dudgeon day after day, year after year? Where they cannot say a single thing about his policy or accomplishments without a "To be sure, he's infinitely vulgar"? Pfffft.
Seriously, if I were ever to become a politician, I'd take time every single day to call the Democrats some variation of "rancid fuckholes leaking semen out of their diseased genderless vaginas", and when they flipped out, say "You'll call me vulgar no matter what I say or don't say, just like you did Trump for years. You could not possibly spend more time calling me vulgar than you called him vulgar. You left yourself no way to differentiate a mild propensity for occasional all caps from *actual* vulgarity. And it had no effect. So - thank you. I find it quite liberating. I will now refer to all of you as leprous leaking hemorrhoids every chance I get, knowing that in your delusional derangement, you have forever erased any meaningful response between proper and uncivil language. Great job, you festering anuses!"
Man, remember when bad language in the White House wasn't a big f'ing deal, and was in fact, kind of charming?
chickenlittle living up to her name ascribing her own emotions to simple language.
LBJ would be shocked.
"It didn't doesn't excuse her vulgarity, which outdoes anything Trump has done publicly (and no, "grab them by the pussy doesn't count" when it was said privately)."
Shithole countries
self-criticism vs criticism with a mic and camera - really? Please step it up a notch, I am going brain dead.
"Shithole countries"
-- Also said privately (if it was actually said, which it probably was, but I thought the Trump official line was he didn't say it.)
Shithole countries
Only heard by Dick Durbin.
And only believed by Chuckles--and you apparently. Fake news does its job.
Darrell: I have no doubt it is something Trump WOULD say. Whether he said it, I don't know though. I doubt it, since usually there are plenty of Republicans willing to stab him in the back for the stupid things he says, and I'm pretty sure this was a rare instance of Republicans across the board at the meeting backing him up.
But, like, we all know he probably at least thought it. And Thought Crimes Are Bad.
Re Muslim women: The Great Leap Forward will not be when a woman wearing a hijab is sworn into the US Congress but rather when a woman not wearing a scarf and maybe wearing a mini skirt is sworn into the Iranian congress......In the Middle East people kill each other at a ferocious rate. I wonder if this woman has any quiet reflective moments where she wonders if there is anything about her value system and rhetorical excesses that might have anything to do with this.......My none too distant forefathers (great grand uncles, anyway) fought with the Army of the Potomac against Robert E. Lee, and one was wounded. So far as I know, they didn't get all out of joint about the statues that were raised to him after the war. The inability to hold a grudge and get on with life is a feature and not a bug of American life.
Howeird once again expressing approval of puerility.
"-- Also said privately (if it was actually said, which it probably was, but I thought the Trump official line was he didn't say it.)"
Nobody has any reason to believe the "Trump official line" anymore. That's just the way it is. The default response to any doubtful expression from Trump is prove it.
Winters Tale: That should be your default position whenever a politician tells you something, from something as ludicrous as "saved or created jobs" to "Mexico will pay for it."
Darrell said...
Shithole countries
Only heard by Dick Durbin.
And only believed by Chuckles--and you apparently. Fake news does its job.
No.
Reported to the press by Dick Durbin.
Confirmed, by Lindsey Graham to Tim Scott and Jeff Flake.
Confirmed by Lindsey Graham to most of the Republican Conference, according to Jeff Flake.
Not denied, by the White House Communications Office.
"Not heard" by DHS Secretary Kirstjen Neilsen, who was in the room and part of the meeting.
"Not heard" by Tom Cotton and David Perdue, until they decided together that they could not recall, and then they recalled that it was "shithouse countries."
But you know, Darrell; it's a free country. You can believe that Trump never said such a thing and that the entire story was fake news intended to embarrass Trump.
What I want you to do, Darrell, is to explain to all of the other Trumpkins who think it was really great that Trump called out the shithole countries for what they really are. The guys who think that Trump was just saying what needed to be said. I want you to tell them that Trump never said it and that the story was concocted by an anti-Trump media because Trump would never say such a thing.
The difference isn’t that some believe there are shithole countries while others don’t.
The difference is some believe America is the shithole country.
"The difference is some believe America is the shithole country."
-- To be fair, we do have New Jersey.
Off topic: Only one in six white southern families owned slaves. White southerners were pretty damned stupid for losing their lives and livelihoods to support their rich neighbors right to own slaves. Also the abolitionists were pretty damned stupid to frame their rhetoric in such a way as to cause a bond beteeen the slaveholder and his dirt farmer neighbor. The whole thing could have been handled better.
Progressives Project Cultural Anxiety, news at ten.
My bit, from April, 2017.
"Playboy for Unfockables"
references: Playboy Magazine, Chloe Stillwell, Ed Sheeran, Noor Tagouri, Gloria Steinem. later players. warning for language.
Trump said "shithouse country," not "shithole," and has the video to prove it.
Earthy language, but not foul-mouthed.
As for "motherfucker," 65 years ago, I remember the CO posting a notice on the bulletin board that anyone heard using the word "motherfucker" would get an automatic two weeks restriction to barracks.
If it is too much for "Army language," it should not be used in the halls of Congress, and certainly not by a "lady."
Hagar said...
Trump said "shithouse country," not "shithole," and has the video to prove it.
Link?
If there is video, how to explain the Trumpist complaints that it was a private, off-the-record meeting?
And if there is video, why was that not the immediate explanation from the White House? Stating clearly what was said, and why?
I want to see this video. I don't think that such a thing exists.
Possibility #2: She is not your lady; she is not any kind of a lady.
"The Godfather," thematic review of the funniest movie ever made. Also, everyone has a potential mafia nickname. I didn't see nothin'! Your mafia nickname is, whatever the wise guy says is your nickname. There is a good fella what dispenses nicknames. Whatever.
But you know, Chuck, it's a free country. Feel free to take a long walk off a short pier anytime.
Maybe someone could direct our migrant caravans to those countries where the milk and honey is just flowing with abundance.
How could we mention the word but forget this great scene from "History of the World Part I," by Mel Brooks?
https://youtu.be/n0quUM-Nr2c
Nowadays, the modern Democrats support Rep. Tlaib (D-Crazy) who is closer to Sirhan Sirhan than RFK.
The disturbing thing about her use of the MF word is that she, by her own admission, used it in a conversation with her child. That she ALSO used it publicly to describe the president just makes her shitty behavior stink been more.
"Never will succeed such a nation as lets their affairs carried out by a woman."
- Mo, circa 620 AD
I was told we needed to give the House to the Democrats in order to bring back civility.
What happened?
"Even" more
What happened? Hillary lied.
Shitholes, shitshows. Motherfuckers -- a misogynistic inspiration. My favorite: burden, or babies as a burden, and mothers as beasts of burden.
So Donald Trump was called a motherfucker? It wouldn't surprise me if the accusation turned out to be actually true. We know for sure from that he cheated on all his wives, and from court records, we know he paid for sex with porn actress Stormy Daniels and Playmate Karen McDougal. From the Donald-Ivana divorce proceedings we learn from her statements that Donald forcibly raped her after a 16 month absence from her bed.
Then there is Katie Johnson who filed suit accusing Trump of savagely raping her at a Jeffrey Epstein "Lolita" sex party when she was 14. The lawsuit was mysteriously dropped in the summer of 2016 just ahead of the Presidential election.
The infamous Access Hollywood "grab 'em by the pussy" tape made public before the election and Trump's numerous adventures talking about sex on Howard Stern's radio show is evidence of a pre-septuagenarian Trump's unbelievable attitude toward women as his sex slaves. More than 20 woman have publicly complained about his unwanted advances and stories about Trump walking through beauty contestant dressing rooms when nudity was likely and stories about looking up the skirts of models working for his agency are really disgusting.
Jealousy is never a good look, Gadfly.
Now let's talk about how Palis talk about Israelis.
"Winters Tale: That should be your default position whenever a politician tells you something, from something as ludicrous as "saved or created jobs" to "Mexico will pay for it.""
Sorry, there's an separate category of disbelief for Trump. If you want to believe "They're all as bad as Trump" that's fine. Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night.
The entire quote is packed. First, she’s talking to her supporters about a conversation with her son. That’s significant. Second, she’s claiming it’s a learning moment. Third, the topic is bullies and how you can stand up to them. Fourth, she’s calling Trump a bully. Fifth, she’s saying the way to deal with bullies is to destroy them, or in this case, impeach him. Sixth, she is bringing up the topic of impeachment on Day one. Seventh, she is defying the establishment Dems in doing so. Eight, she’s using the number one vulgarity word. And ninth, she knows this will go out to a national audience. I’m sure there’s more going on here.
I disagree with almost everything in this but I credit her with tremendous communications skills. It’s richly textualized.
Regarding shithole countries:
1) “Shithole” is nowhere close to the level of vulgarity of “motherf***er,” and it is ridiculous to pretend otherwise. It would be like Chuck trying to equate a push on the shoulder with a hard punch to the face that breaks his jaw.
2) Trump’s characterization of certain countries as “shitholes” was made in a negotiating session that should have kept private. Durbin was wildly out of line to publicize the phrase, not to mention any details whatsoever regarding negotiations.
3) Certain countries really are shitholes — Zimbabwe after 37 years of Mugabe, South Africa since the death of Mandela, Venezuela since socialism, and Honduras, Salvador, or Sudan since forever. Trump’s question is still awaiting an answer.
Fathers Day is just another way of saying Motherfuckers Day. - George Carlin
we know he paid for sex with porn actress Stormy Daniels and Playmate Karen McDougal.
We *know* no such thing. People get paid off to go away, whether anything happened or not. Daniels has denied anything happened multiple times. She also implies something did. The setup at the golf tournament was to get money out of NBC--which she got--not Trump. NBC did not want he controversy surrounding The Apprentice when it was making money for them. In October 2016, Trump did not want to talk about Daniels 24/7 weeks before the election. No one claimed--even Daniels--that money changed hands for sex.
So Big Mike I'd like you to get together with Darrell and decide whether or not Trup said it. That's all. Try to get your stories straight, settle on one version. And then get back to me.
I think we could ask 12 different people in the White House who were present in, or familiar with, that meeting and we'd get 12 different answers.
See why I love this story so much? It is because you, Big Mike, and you, Darrell, can't even agree on what happened.
I should have earlier given more lip service to the third version. That yes, Trump said it, but it should never have been discussed outside of the Oval Office. In which case it wasn't fake news at all, but all the more interesting and candid news. Something that was true, but which Trump and the White House didn't want us to know about.
Darrell said...
we know he paid for sex with porn actress Stormy Daniels and Playmate Karen McDougal.
We *know* no such thing. People get paid off to go away, whether anything happened or not. Daniels has denied anything happened multiple times. She also implies something did. The setup at the golf tournament was to get money out of NBC--which she got--not Trump. NBC did not want he controversy surrounding The Apprentice when it was making money for them. In October 2016, Trump did not want to talk about Daniels 24/7 weeks before the election. No one claimed--even Daniels--that money changed hands for sex.
Nobody claims that money changed hands for sex. Trump may have done that on a hundred other occasions that we don't know about (yet), but in any event that is not what is being claimed.
Money changed hands for silence.
And don't forget, you idiot; Trump didn't pay Karen McDougal. David Pecker's company did. Which is a whole new chapter in campaign finance violations, tax law violations, bank fraud, mail fraud, you name it.
Ask Michael Cohen about that.
It's not the words she used, it's the hatred she revealed.
Is there such a thing as unrequited hatred? That's why I compare her to Sirhan Sirhan (who by the way is unrepentant).
-Chickenlittle
worth a nice hearty bold repeat.
we know he paid for sex with porn actress Stormy Daniels and Playmate Karen McDougal.
We *know* no such thing.
It can be inferred from the evidence presented during the trial by press.
gadfly:
The as-yet unproven allegations that interest me most (because they might involve Trump's paying for an abortion) are the ones in relation to Shera Bechard.
The Trump/Bechard theory has been denied by anonymous sources. There have been court filings in the Bechard/Broidy litigation, in which they both were claiming a relationship with each other, which would really be crazy if in fact they were both covering from Trump. But of course if Bechard wants money, her contract is with Broidy and not Trump. (But think what her story would be worth if it was in fact Trump!)
I don't know; you've got to be careful, when you really want something to be true.
Chuck chases more squirrels, than a pack of hounds, seriously, this was part of a democratic lawfare op that began with david Vitter, who is now representing Russian interests for mercury partners, the firm that steve Schmidt founded, with Vitter there was the entry in the dc madam's book, which was very selectively mined by abc news, to screen out one or two bush administration officials and/or consultants,
Chuck, go fuck yourself, will ya?
I've been to a lot of shithole countries, and yes, they are shithole countries.
If Trump called them what they are, what's the problem? You want to pretend that, say, Haiti isn't a shithole country? Or Afghanistan?
Go right ahead.
Off topic: Only one in six white southern families owned slaves. White southerners were pretty damned stupid for losing their lives and livelihoods to support their rich neighbors right to own slaves.
I pin the whole thing on Northern Abolitionists who painted the Southern states with a broad bush.
Half the country is filled with deplorables isn't a new idea.
Understandably, the newly elected House Dems are giddy, but foul-mouthed trash talk only makes the chamber appear vindictively infantile, thus less powerful.
To paraphrase Voltaire; with great power comes great restraint. Given that the Dems control only one half of our three governing bodies, they have neither.
Nobody claims that money changed hands for sex.
Can you read, Chuckhead? Your pal Gadfly said "we know he paid for sex with porn actress Stormy Daniels and Playmate Karen McDougal."
You are a real disingenuous piece of shit, Chuckie. My comment stands.
Perhaps Althouse should link to the several speeches where trump swears including saying motherfucker. These misconceptions based on asymmetries of information are frustrating. Then maybe we can all agree it's not about the use of vulgar language.
Everybody knows she crossed the line. But go ahead and debate it.
Contrast the tone of this freshman message vs Tlaib's.
the interesting thing about LLRs, is they're So Used to lying, that the fact the all you have to do is scroll up to 1/5/19, 1:52 PM, and see that
gadfly said...
we know he paid for sex with porn actress Stormy Daniels and Playmate Karen McDougal.
doesn't stop them from lying. Another thing that's interesting, is when you catch them, in Yet another Lie; they just drop it and never mention it again. (Yes Mr LLR; i'm trying, HARD to see if you would Ever admit any level of bullsh*t on your part {pro-tip, try saying: "oh, i hadn't read that part of the quote that i was responding to"}, my guess is that EVEN NOW; you'll just pretend this never happened
I agree--our friend Chuck chases more squirrels than my dog does. (And she chases a lot of squirrels. Like Chuck, she never catches them.)
That said, I agree with another commenter who had been to a lot of "shithole" countries. I've been to half a dozen of them--most of them in Africa. Fortunately I never had to spend more than two and a half weeks at a time in any of those places.
You want some fun, you sweat in an African night at 0230 in Murtala Muhammad Airport at Lagos--and after waiting 45 minutes in line to get to passport control, the fellow asks you, "Do you have a return ticket?"
Well I think to myself, "Yer danged straight I've got a ticket back home and outahere. My momma didn't raise any idiots."
Walking through raw sewage in the street to get to a business meeting in Lagos was no fun. Didn't do anything good for your wingtips either. OTOH I wasn't down in Port Harcourt where the local Shell manager had his wife and children raped when workers broke into his house. Most American companies that assigned workers to positions in Nigeria (usually for just a one year hitch, if the employee could tough it out that long) insisted that the worker "get sick" at least once. Getting sick meant that the employee could either go home to the USA for a couple of weeks or go up to London for the same period of time. Call that a mental health break.
Argentina, Chile, Indonesia--none of those places were walks in the park when unrest occurred. OTOH some of my fellow employees went off to Papua New Guinea--that's a place where the truly restless natives might eat you.
The Post in in hock to post hoc.
So Big Mike I'd like you to get together with Darrell and decide whether or not Trup [sic] said it. That's all. Try to get your stories straight, settle on one version. And then get back to me.
You need help with reading comprehension. What I was conveying was my contempt for people who even care whether Donald Trump said “shithole.” That includes Little Dickie Durbin, and it includes you.
Mike Pence (R)
Chuck Schumer (D)
Rashida Tlaib (MF)
Fathers Day is just another way of saying Motherfuckers Day
In politically congruent ("=") circles, Mother's Day, too.
The problem is that saying shithole county can get the mofo impeached.
Words. Mueller. Hillary. Do it. Kill him!
““Kanye called himself a 'lazy mfer' in the Oval Office and trumpy and all his lackeys smile and giggle. trumpy uses vile, vulgar, smutty language and all his lackeys smile and giggle. Rep. Rashida Tlaibs [sic] says it and everyone gets the vapors! Can you say f-ng hypocritical?"”
Right. Trump used the word “fuck” in the Oval Office more than once in contentious meeting with Democrats.
Stop being such hypocrites and snowflakes.
It's a time of slow news, what's an editor to do? All this stuff is ginned up for entertainment, including the AOC dancing kerfuffle. If you were raised by a dancing purple Tyrannosaur, go for it.
“Listen you motherfuckers...”
LOL
Sorry Inga - Nice Try.
Trump saying MoFo about China paying a tax, is not the same kind of leftist hate-rage rage-hate spewed from a revenge filled democratic with dreams of impeachment in her heart.
Stop being such hypocrites and snowflakes.
Fuck off, Inga.
And I say that with all the civility it deserves.
Cultural appropriation plane an simple. Is she going to start flashing gang signs next?
Plain. Plain. Plain. Jeezh.
The Greatest Deliberative Body in the World, you say?
leftist hate-rage rage-hate spewed from a revenge filled democratic with dreams of impeachment in her heart.
That describes Inga as well as it does Tlaib.
This isn't about words. It's about HATE.
WE know who the HATERS are.
I can think of other Presidents who might refer to certain places as shitholes, but I can't think of any other President where so many people would rush to leak this story to the press.......I disapprove of Trump's domestic morals, but there's part of me that's ambivalent about cheating on your supermodel wife with a pornstar and a Playmate of the Year. Trump's vices are more interesting and aspirational than Obama's virtues........Trump's had a remarkably fortunate life, and some of that luck has rubbed off on the country he leads.. Napoleon said he preferred generals who were lucky rather than smart.
My experience in life has demonstrated, time and again, that people, including myself, are persuaded to accept and then adopt a speaker's point of view when they are insulted with the insults laced with profanity. I've found that it's the best form of persuasion.
Shithole countries?
back on this?
Chuck is the King of fighting about things that have no value. Do you know that our economy added more than 100 thousand jobs above a healthy estimate? Who, but a dickhead, would think some meaningless comment is worth the breath to speak of it?
“Trump saying MoFo about China paying a tax, is not the same kind of leftist hate-rage rage-hate spewed from a revenge filled democratic with dreams of impeachment in her heart.”
Trump Cultism makes them stupid.
What else could be their excuse?
#HateLovesAbortion
Inga: "What else could be their excuse?"
Obviously fake dossiers?
So its clear that everything he lefties have been saying about tone and language for the last 3 years has been an hilarious lie!
I don't think we really required further evidence.
President Trump is leading our nation into the best economic times since our GI's came home from WW II. President Trump is bringing our soldier's home from conflicts no one can justify. By the time President Trump starts his second term, the nation will be operating in peace and prosperity we have not experienced in decades. The United States is also the only nation on the planet to meet or exceed carbon emission goals... because it's impossible to drill our way to energy independence. But the most important thing to our democracy hangs on the words rumored to have been uttered during a private meeting
Chuck is the King of fighting about things that have no value. Do you know that our economy added more than 100 thousand jobs above a healthy estimate? Who, but a dickhead, would think some meaningless comment is worth the breath to speak of it?
Chuck is an elitist and a racist. It isn’t that he is oblivious to the strength of the economy; he is deeply offended that young blacks and Hispanics have good jobs.
Remember, according to Inga it was wrong for Trump to refer to Inga's "spark of divinity" MS13 gang-banger machete murderers as "animals".
Oh, it was so so so very very wrong.
LOL
Can you say f-ng hypocritical?"
Revealingly everyone on the left claims this is inappropriate and yet those same people defend a left winger saying worse directly to children. It's shocking to discover the left doesn't actually care about hypocrisy, or anything else.
Wasn't all that long ago that Pres. Trump called Chuck Todd "a sleeping son of a bitch".
Earlier he called a guy who set up his microphone the same thing, along with "bastard".
Good times.
Big Mike: "Chuck is an elitist and a racist."
Actually, Chuck is a self-described smear merchant who is only here to smear Trump in the hopes of helping drive Trumps poll numbers low enough that enough of Chuck's Soros-funded/FusionGPS colluding "True Conservatives" can help impeach Trump.
That sums up LLR Chuck's entire existence on this blog.
It is literally that simple.
Darrell said...
Nobody claims that money changed hands for sex.
Can you read, Chuckhead? Your pal Gadfly said "we know he paid for sex with porn actress Stormy Daniels and Playmate Karen McDougal."
You are a real disingenuous piece of shit, Chuckie. My comment stands.
You're dumber than I ever imagined.
Again; no one is claiming that Trump paid Stormy Daniels to have sex with him. Although that seems to be a transaction that Trump would be interested in, and it seems that he did want to throw some money, and a possible "Apprentice" appearance her way.
But does anybody doubt that Trump had sex with Stormy Daniels? I don't. Why did Trump arrange to get her paid off and then lie about it? If Stormy Daniels was lying about it, and defaming Trump, and trying to somehow blackmail Trump (with a phony claim?!?), Trump who has never been shy about threatening people with litigation (meritorious or not) should have sued her. Isn't Trump the guy who made the claim in the Trump University fraud litigation that you can never settle and go down without a fight because then more plaintiffs will abuse you.
Trump didn't pay for the sex. He had sex with her (and McDougal and who knows how many others) and then tried to pay her off when he thought she might out him.
How did you not get that? What is wrong with you?
If anybody else is departing from what I just described, I have no explanation and carry no brief for them. Talk to gadfly if you wish.
FusionGPS/CucklyStandard Commenter Chuck: "Again; no one is claiming that Trump paid Stormy Daniels to have sex with him."
LOL
In the very thread where the Poor Man's LLR Chuck, gadfly, did just that. And so are many, many of LLR Chuck's dem/left allies.
Too funny.
Almost as funny as LLR Chuck's knee-jerk reflexive worshiping at the obambi-altar the other day when LLR Chuck passionately defended obambi by cheering obambi for not having avoiding the non-existent draft!!!
Personnally, I think that one easily matches LLR Chuck's repeated lies in support of Stolen Valor dem hack Blumenthal.
Easily.
well I think f chuck is just the older male version of ocasio cortez, he dropped out of college to work for tom 'red' harkin, who fancied himself a Vietnam air ace, but in truth was the airborne version of john Kerry, naturally he ended up at nbc news, with bylines at the huffington post,
The good news for our Brian Stelter Republican LLR Chuck is that all the old Soros-funded FusionGPS-provided "True Conservative" smears he so enjoyed getting from The Cuckly Standard will now be available from the brand spankin' new "True Conservative" (radical leftist billionaire-financed) "The Bulwark"!!
LOL
iowan2 said...
Shithole countries?
back on this?
Chuck is the King of fighting about things that have no value. Do you know that our economy added more than 100 thousand jobs above a healthy estimate? Who, but a dickhead, would think some meaningless comment is worth the breath to speak of it?
I didn't raise the subject of "shithole countries." Matthew Sablan did, at 12:19.
I just love the topic. I like to get one-third of the Trump cult saying that Trump never said it and it is a media lie. And another third of them saying that Trump was right to say it and it is a damn straight truth that he did say it. And the last third of the Trump cult saying that it is all Dick Durbin's fault for revealing what Trump said in a private meeting.
I love, love, love it. I hardly have to take on any one of those theories for a serious argument when TrumpWorld can't even settle on a single explanation.
As usual Chuck can't keep track of his own assertions.
Again; no one is claiming that Trump paid Stormy Daniels to have sex with him
If anybody else is departing from what I just described, I have no explanation and carry no brief for them. Talk to gadfly if you wish.
So in one comment he speaks for everyone, then retreats and claims he is only responsible for his own assertions conveniently omitting his assertions cover everyone. This guy is an idiot.
His kids don't look like him, so it's doubtful Trump actually is a MoFo. In any event, impeachment is too good for that Cunt.
next they'll abolish the Senate,
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/01/democrat-representative-steve-cohen-proposes-amendment-to-end-electoral-college/
LLR Chuck: "I just love the topic. I like to get one-third of the Trump cult saying that Trump never said it and it is a media lie."
LOL
The NeverTrump Crew have reversed every "principle" they claimed to support (but interestingly, never actually fought for and when in position to deliver on those "principles", like LLR Chuck, they went AWOL!)
You know who else has reversed on almost every "principle" they claimed to support here in the age of Trump?
The far left.
Hmmmmmmm, the far left and the "True Conservative" NeverTrumpers....exhibiting precisely the same behaviors...at precisely the same time...for precisely the same reason...and now those same NeverTrumper "True Conservatives" are openly aligning with and being funded by leftist billioniares and praised by the far left.
Double Hmmmmmmmm, in precisely the same way LLR Chuck is defended and protected by the most lunatic leftists on this very blog.
I wonder what it is precisely that indicate to the lunatic lefties that LLR Chuck must be defended. At all costs. Almost as if he were a family member.....
But that can't be, can it? After all, LLR Chuck is the most "principled" "Conservative-y conservative" you will ever see.....(wink wink)....
Chuck: I just love the topic. I like to get one-third of the Trump cult saying that Trump never said it and it is a media lie. And another third of them saying that Trump was right to say it and it is a damn straight truth that he did say it. And the last third of the Trump cult saying that it is all Dick Durbin's fault for revealing what Trump said in a private meeting.
If everybody having a different opinion than Chuck about Trump agrees with everybody else having a different opinion than Chuck about Trump re any matter Trumpian, it's a cult. If everybody having a different opinion than Chuck about Trump disagrees with everybody else having a different opinion than Chuck about Trump re a Trumpian matter...it's an even cultier cult!
I love, love, love it. I hardly have to take on any one of those theories for a serious argument when TrumpWorld can't even settle on a single explanation.
Sort of thing that would make a sane man question whether "TrumpWorld" existed outside his own head, dontcha think?
Rick, let me clear this up for you.
When I say "no one is claiming that Trump paid Stormy Daniels to have sex with him," I am not including the commenters on this page as people, or humans worth considering. I have no idea what collection of Tea Party/4Chan/QAnon/MoveOn maniacs subsist here. I don't care.
When I say that "no one is claiming that Trump paid Stormy Daniels to have sex with him," I am referring to the parties of actual importance: Stephanie Clifford; Donald J. Trump; Michael Cohen; Michael Avenatti; the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York; the Wall Street Journal; the Washington Post; the New York Times.
Stephanie Clifford's own account is that she had consensual sex with Trump, and after Trump tried vaguely to offer some money and her response was "Really?" Thereafter she had a number of telephone conversations with Trump wherein he lavished her with praise and affection and talked generally about getting her onto "The Apprentice." She has never once claimed that Trump paid her to have sex with him.
Angle-Dyne: "Sort of thing that would make a sane man question whether "TrumpWorld" existed outside his own head, dontcha think?"
Quite so.
Earlier LLR Chuck did indeed claim that the uniformity of the Trump supporters on particular issues was indicative of a cult.
Later LLR Chuck now asserts boldly that Trump supporters being all over the field does indicate an even "cultier cult"!!
Isn't it interesting that in this case, AS IN ALL OTHERS, our Open Borders fan LLR Chuck has adopted the very tactics of the lunatic and far left in describing those who oppose the leftists. A tactic identical to what the lefties pull everyday with the Weather and AGW.
But only identical to the leftists in every possible way.
And every single day.
On every single issue.
Unexpectedly.
“How did you not get that? What is wrong with you?”
Because he’s stupid.
Ah of course.
The inevitable "clarification" from our Open Borders LLR that only serves to undermine every single thing this self-described smear merchant had been writing earlier on the blog.
Inevitable.
LOL
@Drago, "racist" hits people like Chuck harder than calling him the Moby that he is. I used to be very active in local Republican politics, and I have dealt with all manner of Republican, from the "Brother, are you saved through the love of Jesus Christ" evangelicals to the country club Republicans Chuck tries to emulate, and pretty much every flavor of Republican in between. I don't believe that he is a Republican at all, and I never have believed that he was any sort of recognizable Republican.
You'll have to forgive Inga, she still thinks Brett Kavanaugh was the head of a rape-gang that ran wild across the Maryland countryside for a decade accosting hundreds if not thousands of women in the most vile of ways.
LOL
And to think, Inga didn't even need a hoax dossier to buy into that!!
Big Mike: " I don't believe that he is a Republican at all, and I never have believed that he was any sort of recognizable Republican."
Not surprisingly, every single LLR Chuck hero in the media has been exposed as lefty-funded FusionGPS colluding hack.
The best thing about Trump being elected, besides everything else, is the outing of these LLR poseurs.
let me clear this up for you.
I get it. You want to make statements which aren't true but which if true support your position. Basing your positions on your fantasies of "what if" is irrelevant to any real workd commentary.
So why don't you either limit yourself to reasonable comments or shut the fuck up. As it is you come off like Inga.
Rick: "So why don't you either limit yourself to reasonable comments or shut the fuck up. As it is you come off like Inga"
If I may, Inga comes off like Inga in far fewer words than it takes LLR Chuck to come off like Inga.
In terms of raw Efficiency in Stupid, Inga remains a champ.
Gadfly does come close at times, which is why I long ago strongly recommended to gadfly to limit all posts to no more than 5 words.
You know, Drago; regarding "shithole countries", the reason that TrumpWorld is left scrambling for explanations is because not once has the White House ever made it 100% clear what Trump said or didn't say.
Of course, they didn't want to admit it (except that Trump reportedly took pleasure in claiming it to his closest friends and advisors).
And of course, they couldn't go all-out in denying it as long as those denials were pure lies.
So what we got was a concoction of foul balls. "Strong language" had been used in the meeting. But there was no direct admission, and no direct denial, about "shithole countries." Trump's White House wanted to have that one both ways. That's not acceptable to me.
Why would anyone feature Trump being concerned about being called a motherfucker? Maxine said it, Wanda Sykes said it and the PLO frosh said it. Maxine, Palestina and Wanda are all struggling for face time. Wanda has a tour coming up, so she's gotta show she's viable. Maxine well she's gotta distract from the banking improprieties, and Palestina gotta show her ass for the terrorist element. Their audiences mean zero in the world. Children vying for some face time.
This woman is a bigoted anti-Semite. I don't care what swear words she uses. She is a disgrace to the U.S. House of Representative. Democrats ought to be very wary, because she is an IED set to go off and she will. Along with the other Jew haters now making their way up the left's ladders. This discussion about her cussing at Trump is a ridiculous distraction for all involved.
Dick Durbin republican Chuck is desperate to deflect in any way he can for his dem allies and is clearly still very angry that Trump exposed his Li'l Dickie Durbin for the schmuck that he is.
Sorry Chuck. You and your pal Durbin had your shot, and you both blew it. You need to grow up and accept it.
I recommend you spend a few extra hours this week reading up at the Omidyar-funded "The Bulwark" to help you get over it.
LOL
Like the trolls here, they're just piss ants. Add nothing to the larger picture.
1) she said it in front of her kids, 2) it is her first day in office 3) there should be at least the possibility that the 2 parties can work together on some things.
Jon Burack: "This woman is a bigoted anti-Semite."
Which is why the lefties/LLR Chuck are spinning like whirling dervishes. Chuck and the left know they need to change the subject as fast as possible.
It helps in understanding LLR Chuck's postings if you simply survey the political landscape and identify those narratives and storylines most helpful to the far left/dem cause as it will completely prepare you for what LLR Chuck will be offering up that day.
This woman is a bigoted anti-Semite.
I think you're confusing her with the other new Muslim Dem Rep. When all you care about is diversity points the beliefs become irrelevant.
LLR Chuck: "I have no idea what collection of Tea Party/4Chan/QAnon/MoveOn maniacs subsist here. I don't care."
We have a very very good idea of the FusionGPS/MediaMatters maniacs that subsist here.
A very very good idea.
Goodness gracious but Chuck is still talking about the same stupid shit he was months ago.
Let's talk about the employment numbers.
if there is One Thing to be thankful for Trump doing (and Lord Knows there's Way more than one),
It's the way he's completely unveiled the Bill Kristols, the George Wills, and all the other LLRs for the piece of shit Democratic Lapdogs that they always were. Trump has some sort of magic mojo power, than strips LLRs of Any ability to even coherently make their arguments.
Yes hes like Stephen tobolowsky the annoying weatherman in groundhog day.
Birkel: "Let's talk about the employment numbers."
Lets start with those now unemployed Cuckly Standard employees who have yet to find a leftist benefactor for whom they can serve without question....like all the rest of LLR Chuck's "True Conservative" heroes....
Many are going over to the bulwark, which is like the standard on steriods.
Well it's got Dave Barry for the inaugural issue but otherwise:
https://thebulwark.com/
"Strong language" had been used in the meeting. But there was no direct admission, and no direct denial, about "shithole countries." Trump's White House wanted to have that one both ways. That's not acceptable to me.
HIGH CRIMES & MISDEMEANORS!!! IMPEACH THIS MONSTER!!!!
There seems to be a pattern across the pond and the channel:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/yellow-vest-violence-surges-with-attack-on-french-government-building-20190106-p50ptd.html
The attitude to Trump is the #MeToo attitude.
Anybody remember "You lie!"? Apparently it's okay to criticize the President now. No matter how you say it.
But how can ????? make his feelings about another commenter here at Althouse known? Please all let's help to understand.
He has repeated himself for years, with very little accomplished but to get the host to drag out the same requests: don't call out others by name and then tit for tat for 50 comments over silly name-calling.
Numerous times per day on different posts.
Severely handicapped people can see this but for some, estranged others there are only a few trees, never a forest.
> which is like the standard on steriods.
All Democrat all the time :)
@Tick, consider the possibility that both women are virulent anti-Semites.
I think the You Lie guy is the worst radio host I've heard.
He repeats himself, different vocal intonations, 4-5 times before he starts making a very, very simple point.
Like some people who hang around here.
Repetition works, but it works in many ways, not always ways you are conscious of. Don't assume your brilliance isn't understood, along with much more, the first time you say something joe, including the fact you aren't brilliant.
What we will talk about next, okay, what we are next going to discuss, alright, is something it took me a long to to accept, but, and I will hear your voice on THIS and you will hear MINE, is the most important thing I can think of no one but us is discussing. Next.
Commericial.
Okay thanks for listening, and this is a very important hour because I HAD SAID we would have dialogue regarding my time in Congress and what I learned.
And, I mean, I wasn't the most naive guy around, you know, I had -blah blah blah- but, and this is the entire point of the conversation we are having now and, frankly, why I felt the need to become a radio host in the first place, which was to spread the truth that I found that shocked me, okay, shocked me.
Ado further without, what I found was this: Congressman are expected to fundraise 24 hours a day or they get shut out. You don't raise money for all sorts of things, votes aside, you don't count. You are nothing. And so are all your constituents.
Yada yada yada.
I did a personal, self-intervention and we both shed tears.
@Rick, sorry for the typo at 8:46!
I think one tyhing my sbuddy Rh Ardin arppreciates is:
better stupid Ai.
Lotto data..
All AI fall lotto data.
Not data of the Lottery which it was sold as, lot of data.
Lot of Data.
The Biggest of All D's.
312,000 jobs in December.
Plus, revisions of November and October for another 58,000.
I was told these last few weeks that the stock market volatility is Trump's economy.
Thankfully, Obama's economy is finally over.
Therefore, the job creation numbers are Trump's economy too.
When will Leftist Collectivists talk about how great the economy is?
Hahaha
I crack me up!
From another angle:
https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2019/01/turkey-syria-some-in-army-oppose-new-operation-against-kurds.html
Ya..lets pretend calling yourself a name in that way (among adults) is the same as Tlaib's teaching over the top disrespect to the presidency to her son.
Just the same!
God help whoever had Chuck as legal counsel...assuming that vocation is/was his.
The only "vulgarities" I've ever heard attributed to Trump were spoken in private. I've never heard him say so much as a "damn" in front of the cameras.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-profanity-meeting-with-democrats-pelosi-government-shutdown-2019-1
Let's go a different route:
Representative Tlaib is declaring an end to PC.
If this view is correct then every name that might be called is now available for public discourse.
Cruz seems intent on serving only two terms so I encourage him to quote the Congresswoman from the Well of the Senate.
Let's reclaim words.
HT presents an opportunity to reclaim a word or two.
HT is a Nancy boy worried about bad language. (male insult)
HT is a pussy. (female insult)
Look how wonderful this Democrat House is proving.
Never look an Israel-hating anti-language-policeman horse face in the mouth.
Reclaim the language.
Just another day in Paradise. Miserable haters and losers gonna hate.
Blessed Sunday to y’all
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