He called the prosecuting attorney a 'butthole' for arguing that Cosby was a flight-risk with a private airplane which, were I him and had one, I'd use it.
They knew the deal. You have to give head to get ahead in Hollywood.
So they incarcerate the old black conservative guy and the rich liberal like Weinstein walks away? Or Spacey? Or Dustin Hoffman? Charlie Rose? Matt Laurer?
Eluding? That would require that someone was trying to prosecute him.
To the contrary, like Harvey Weinstein and Bill Clinton he built an entire system to elude responsibility for his rapey actions -- the tribute vice pays to virtue, as they say.
If the statute of limitations is 12 years in PA, and the assault occurred in 2004, how is Cosby being prosecuted? Has it taken 2 years for this to come to trial? Is that a "speedy trial"?
Regarding Cosby's approach towards the black community, I obviously agree and if anything he did not got far enough in his critiques. But I think the notion that Bill Cosby was taken down because of that point-of-view is a bit silly. For one thing, the allegation this case is based on took place in January 2004, before Cosby gave his infamous "poundcake speech." The allegations against Cosby only snowballed after Hannibal Buress spent months joking about him in a comedy routine in 2014. By 2014, was Bill Cosby on anyone's radar?
Why does this "Drudge" guy have to say "guilty" three times? And why do you read/quote him? What's so wrong with "just the facts" and why is it so important to follow a guy with a tabloid's sense of sensationalism?
Who the hell puts headlines in "red?" Is he running a firehouse or a news website? Why is every headline designed to provoke alarm or contempt or fear?
If the statute of limitations is 12 years in PA, and the assault occurred in 2004, how is Cosby being prosecuted? Has it taken 2 years for this to come to trial? Is that a "speedy trial"?
You should assume that his lawyers did everything they could to hold it up. Change the venue, object to the jurisdiction, jury selection, Cosby's age and condition as a source of infirmity casting doubt on his fitness to stand trial. Duh. Right-wingers should really take a basic course on how law and the justice system work in this country.
I have no dog in this fight; but am I to assume from some of the comments here ("Woke jury," etc.) that some people here think he was railroaded? If so, why? Evidence, please, not mind reading.
Which would never have happened if Cosby had still been a Liberal hero.
Weinstein was a liberal hero. Didn't do much to stop the allegation factory churning out accusations.
Weinstein is living in several mansions with millions of dollars. The poor guy. And how many leftist media institutions spiked Ronan's story before it was finally begrudgingly printed?
Seems like he deserves the conviction, but I do wonder about the accuser acknowledging that he gave her "3 blue pills" with wine. She presumably knew she was taking illegal drugs with a man in a private location. One could argue that her chance to avoid the encounter was waived when she chose to drug herself.
Um . . . maybe because there were three charges and three guilty verdicts?
"Convicted on all three counts" sounds more professional but who am I to judge Mr. Fire Alarm's journalistic integrity when it comes to activating the reading interests of the same sensationalist right that comprises his audience?
Absolutely no civil or criminal suits despite several credible accusations of rape.
Oh dear lord. Do the right-wingers not even realize that an accuser has to agree to bring charges? Is that no longer the case? WTF? Pretty hard for the state to go to trial with a judicially unwilling accuser.
It wasn't rapey Prole. It was transactional. They knew the deal. You have to give head to get ahead in Hollywood.
Instead of cozying up to an aspiring Hollywood starlet, Cosby targeted the director of operations for Temple University’s women’s basketball team (who also happened to be a lesbian -- who knew?). Instead of asking for a blowjob, he drugged and assaulted her. But otherwise your point makes perfect transactional sense.
People have been openly speculating about Kanye's mental health even since he hooked up with the Kardashians.
I do believe the actual history of this goes back to South Park's infamous "Gay Fish" episode and the rapper in question's infamous all caps-locks insanely appreciative (but sad!) response to it. (Since deleted).
Maybe Kanye's where Full Moon gets his commenting habits from.
This presidency really is activating the closet narcissists. And obviously the open narcissists.
Nearly all of the women who have come forward have stated that their hesitancy on coming forward was due to the fact that he was such a revered and esteemed public figure. His reputation is what enabled him to get away with it for so long. Until very, very recently, sex offenders with good liberal credentials were treated gently. That's just a fact. Bill Clinton's victims were "bimbos". There must be hundreds of women with stories about him or Ted Kennedy or MLK, but where are they. They all know the price to be paid.. That's not exactly the case with ladies who have encountered Trump. Those ladies know that there's no price to be paid but rather a surcharge to be rendered.
Bill Cosby always seemed like a decent and likable guy. Perhaps, aside from the drugging and raping, he was. I'd hate to see him die in prison. Maybe he can string out the appeals until such time as he's dead. That wouldn't be such an unfitting resolution to his case. He's lost his legacy, his reputation, his health. I'd be willing to settle for that.
I am naturally skeptical of anything involving Gloria Allred, Sr. and Jr.
But the jury has spoken. Pending appeals we can all accept that we have found the closest approximation of justice available. Any injection of politics (see my criticism of both Gloria Allreds above) into this matter seems mis-directed.
Kanye is public enemy #1 in proggy commune group-think plantation singularity hivemind. the daggers and the opposition researchers out out in full brown-shirt force.
Noted these same progressives do not care at all about Clinton corruption.
I doubt very much anyone is going to put him in prison.
On the other hand a great number of lawyers are going to do their best to take his fortune, and the real losers here will be his children and grandchildren.
William Chadwick said... "I have no dog in this fight; but am I to assume from some of the comments here ("Woke jury," etc.) that some people here think he was railroaded? If so, why? Evidence, please, not mind reading."
1 - There was testimony that the victim had discussed the possibility of accusing a wealthy celebrity of sexual assault in order to get a large payout prior to the alleged incident.
2 - She did, in fact, do just that, and Cosby paid over $3 million.
3 - As mentioned upthread, she admitted to taking the drugs, although she says she was not expecting such a powerful effect.
Points worth considering, but I think the large number of accusers and the similarity of their accounts makes a much stronger case for his guilt. Some conservatives believe he was railroaded because he went around upbraiding the "black community" for its general fecklessness. Perhaps by doing so he called attention to himself, that lead to the famous Burriss incident. But if he actually raped all those women, as I think he did, he has some nerve lecturing anyone this side of Joe Stalin about anything.
No one is getting Cosby’s money. He already paid the victim $3.3 million. None of the other accusers/victims is getting a dime. Too late to sue Cosby. They tried to sue him for defamation when he denied the accusations years after the limitations period expired on any assault civil claim. Got nowhere. Cosby’s family will get his money. The victim will get paid by the news media for her interviews. And everyone will move on.
"On the other hand a great number of lawyers are going to do their best to take his fortune, and the real losers here will be his children and grandchildren."
And let's not forget his lovely wife. Now there's a piece of work.
Full Moonbeam - still butthurt at having lost his temper tantrum on yesterday's Scott Adams thread and deleted the majority of his comments on it - chimes in here to declare that he is into identity politics.
So does that mean you're a full-blown social justice warrior, too, Little Snowflake? How does that jibe with your worship of your hero, Trump?
I'm interested in which feminist theory best describes the one you identify with most. Do tell us, Little Guy.
Cosby is said to have been engaged in this behavior since forever, and it is very hard to believe that these women did not know that. In any case, what women not certifiably "developmentally challenged" does not conclude something not good is up when offered pills "to relax" when alone with a man in his hotel room?
mccullough said... "No one is getting Cosby’s money. He already paid the victim $3.3 million. None of the other accusers/victims is getting a dime."
buwaya said the lawyers would get it. An appeal is planned. The doctors will probably get some too. When there's blood in the water, all the ethical professions gather round. But yeah, I think there'll be plenty left for Camille and the kids.
The names change but the song remains the same:. LOL
Ritmo Brasileiro said... It's good to know that the stupidest threads are just ripe for the threadjacking. I'll be sure to leave a trail of turds on every one of the brain droppings here that suit my fancy. Getting you shit-eaters to complain about the taste after opening your mouths wide and saying "Ahhhh..." to every bad idea under the sun is very satisfying, I must admit.
"The allegations against Cosby only snowballed after Hannibal Buress spent months joking about him in a comedy routine in 2014."
Buress specifically said he made his accusations, while making them, because of Cosby's disrespect for Black culture and his popularity with white audiences. The entire case was politically motivated.
"what women not certifiably "developmentally challenged" does not conclude something not good is up when offered pills "to relax" when alone with a man in his hotel room?"
Some people engage in recreational sex voluntarily. Some people voluntarily use recreational drugs. Some people voluntarily combine the two pursuits.
That's like 19 comments of yours yesterday that you deleted. Why are you so ashamed of what you wrote that you can't leave them up there, Full Mooned?
Is that why you call yourself "Full Moon", BTW? You pull your pants down to show everyone your butt and then regret it? Like you wish you could take it back, or delete it - or something?
Buress specifically said he made his accusations, while making them, because of Cosby's disrespect for Black culture and his popularity with white audiences. The entire case was politically motivated.
Here's the entirety of what he said on the subject: "Thirteen? And it’s even worse because Bill Cosby has the fucking smuggest old black man public persona that I hate. Pull your pants up, black people, I was on TV in the ’80s. I can talk down to you because I had a successful sitcom. Yeah, but you raped women, Bill Cosby. So, brings you down a couple notches."
I think "politically motivated" is a bit of a stretch.
They knew the deal. You have to give head to get ahead in Hollywood.
I remember a TV interview with one of Ray Charles former Raylettes perhaps 10-15 years ago.
She said that "To be a Raylette, you had to let Ray" have sex with you. She didn't seem to be upset about it. She seemed to think that if that was the price you had to pay for a great gig like that, it was OK. I think she was a Raylette for 10-15 years so it could not have been too bad.
So Full Mooned is already responsible for two of three self-deletions here in this very thread, tonight.
Maybe we can get lucky and he will delete them all. Shouldn't be hard, he's much better at quoting others than actually coming up with anything on his own to say.
Maybe he will just stop being a regret-prone retard and not post any comments, any of his garbage in the first place. But that would take some actual insight, intelligence and self-control - three qualities that he resents so badly it drives him crazy.
I loved Bill Cosby from I Spy, his comedy albums, Fat Albert, TV appearances and more. I even liked his Huxtable show for a while before I recognized the child abuse. I thought it terrific that, even though he had no need of it, he got a doctorate in education. I admired the way he spoke out and what he had to say.
I don't know if he was guilty or not but I can't help having a sneaking feeling that he was railroaded for being an uppity black man.
Sad to see this happen. If he did it, I am sad that he did. I did not think he was that kind of man. If he did do it, he deserves to be jailed.
Are you watching this, Kanye? Did you get the message?
Educated MicroBiologists with many faces wonders: That's like 19 comments of yours yesterday that you deleted. Why are you so ashamed of what you wrote that you can't leave them up there, Full Mooned?
Is that why you call yourself "Full Moon", BTW? You pull your pants down to show everyone your butt and then regret it? Like you wish you could take it back, or delete it - or something?
My comments are fine art, like Tibetan Buddhist Sand Mandala Enjoy while you can before the climate changes and they disappear..
My comments are fine art, like Tibetan Buddhist Sand Mandala ..
No, they're just highly derivative and unoriginal, stupid shit that you become ashamed of having posted a few short minutes later.
Save yourself the trouble and don't post them to begin with. All that deletion must take as much effort as all those comment saving and stalking activities.
No one got anything out of any comment you ever posted, and you know it.
Your like Trump's Twitter feed, but with a "regretful, delayed self-awareness" function.
J. Farmer said... "I can talk down to you because I had a successful sitcom. Yeah, but you raped women, Bill Cosby. So, brings you down a couple notches."
If you want to argue that Cosby would have got away clean had he not provoked that black comedian, you could certainly be right. But if you want to argue that the prosecution was politically motivated, then you need to point at the actions of prosecutors, in court or outside.
A useful measure of the standards of the "black community", by the way. Couple notches for rape, three or four for murder, six or eight for snitchin'. Pretty soon you're talking serious notches.
Gee your smart. Unlike some, I expect nobody to read my comments to to.
Right. Because when they go through the comments threads they talk to each other. Whereas you just talk to yourself.
If you don't expect anyone to read them, why post them? To prove that you could open your journal diary out in a public forum and then puzzle over the result? To prove that you exist here?
That is astonishingly similar to the exhibitionist flasher who doesn't expect anyone to look at him when he opens the trench coat and exposes himself, but does it for his own pleasure at having done the dastardly deed - subsequently puzzling over why it is that he would get arrested and opprobrium over something no one wanted to see.
I always knew you were a pervert in some way. I guess this is the explanation. You're a comments-thread self-exposer.
Hagar said... "At least the last 50 of them, Jupiter. Perhaps you should ask a woman what she thinks of this case."
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that all 50 of them should have known -- no wait, must certainly have known -- that Bill Cosby was a serial rapist, and that they therefore deserved exactly what they got.
Hey! Anybody with a vagina want to set me straight here? Exile? Igna? DBQ? Come tell me Hagar has it right, they were all begging for it. The drugs, the creepy paralyzed sex, the fingering. Best night of their lives.
Umm, dumbfuck, you are reading my comments and responding.Why?
And you are reading my comments and quoting them. Why?
Because you are desperate for attention and need to expose yourself to people you feel insecure around, before running away and deleting your comment and pretending it never happened.
Cosby had the same attitude about "closet freaks".
So says a comments thread exhibitionist who shows up just to expose himself to others he expects to disregard him.
Let that sink in.
Also, confusing rape with whatever unconventional sexuality you read into that comment basically telegraphs that you and/or your wife must have utterly conventional (boring) sex lives. So unfulfilling that you seem to require others to share it to feel better about how boring it is.
Let that sink in.
Now, what do you think of Trump's interest in porn stars and playmates? Have you endorsed that kind of freakishness now that your "WINNING" guy lets on to being into it? Or have you been tempted to pay off women to shut up about having been with you all along?
At some point you'll have to explain your sexual schizophrenia.
Once in a while the cops will have a program, where they explain to people how to keep yourself safe from crime. Keep your doors locked. Good, expensive locks, not the cheap crap the builder put on. Keep your windows locked. Trim the bushes around your house, and get security lights and cameras.
I look at that, and I think, what you're telling me, is how to make sure my neighbor gets robbed instead of me. But I don't want that. I want the God-damned robber taken off the street, so my neighbor and I don't need to live like hunted animals, hoping the other one will get eaten first.
Bill Cosby hunted young women like animals. And if you want to argue, Hagar, that some of them were easier to trap than others, fine, go ahead. But Bill Cosby was going to find women to rape. Not because some women are stupid, but because Bill Cosby was and remains a predatory POS. He should have been taken down a long time ago. Better late than never.
SJW Moon's wife is so boring in bed that he has to come here to loudly proclaim it.
I guess that's one more thing about himself that he finds it exhilarating to, you know, "expose."
He gets off on exposing himself, you know. That way.
It's like when flashers expose themselves, they don't seem to realize how unimpressive others tend to find them. But they still find it a really fun thing to do.
FullMoon, you idiot! Shut up and take out the garbage. Your beer bottles are overflowing and you’ve embarrassed yourself enough for tonight. I apologize for my husband. He gets drunk every night since he got fired.
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Didn’t I tell you to shut up you loser FullMoon! Stop bothering these people and go to bed so you can get up before noon and get a job! The kids are tired of eating mac and cheese while you drink away the unemployment check.
FullMoon if you don’t shut up and go to bed, I’ll have to let these people know that you aren’t in your right mind since you ran over our youngest in the driveway when you came home drunk last year. Then after he got fired he kicked the neighbor’s cat to death. I had him committed for a while, but they let him loose.
FullMoon refuses to cut his toenails and bites them off instead. Then he saves them in a little jewelry box with a ballerina on it. He stole it from our daughter.
Is there some weakness among women that compares to a man's willingness to blow everything for such a temporary sexual experience. I can't think of one. It's really a male thing, and frankly, it's terrifying.
There was so much about Cosby that was good, and right, and valuable. A life truely to be envied, respected, and which a man could be very proud of, yet simple sex, easily found in non-criminal and non-exploitative ways was valued for a moment above it all ... over and over again.
I understand it from my own occasional temptations, and the power of it is incredible. All values and standards are put in play, and a man must fight the beast to hold on to them. If he gives in, the payoff is certainly a disappointment, especially when he realizes what he paid for it. I've come close, as I'm sure many men must admit to themselves, but so far I held out until age has weakened the beast and strengthened the character, but just barely in time. The fight was long and hard, but I think I made it. Cosby did not. Now as the old man who could resist easily, he arrived too late and didn't fight hard enough when it counted. Victims everywhere. Victims of weakness against nature, but isn't that always the challenge?
Aggressive ignorance. Just saying shit to say it. Not respecting people. Not knowing shit. Advertising how it was that his community college applications got shoved aside into the "REJECTION" pile.
But seriously, his opinion on AGW is also just as intelligent.
The women, who are truly victims, would never trade places with him. That's how bad he fucked up. Even rape victims would not want to be you. Don't be that guy.
It's the three million extra voters Trump imagined. They're all one and the same. Not a single individual person among them at all. Just pretending to be different people. Yep - easy to do, if you've got as much time on your hands as Full Mooned does.
Nah, Ken B. It's that Full Moon craptacle. He does endless displays of aggressively stupid shit and convinces himself that it somehow means he got the best of (whomever). Kind of like when Charlie Sheen went on his "WINNING!" spree and came back to tell the tale of a lost job, millions spent on rehab and an HIV diagnosis. FullMoon has tiger blood and Adonis DNA.
Toothless is protecting his screen name by using new sockpuppets--President pp tape and Mrs Full Moon. He thinks Toothless has credibility attached and Soros earning potential--especially since he has tried to pass himself off as a climate change warrior. We think he's a stupid cocksucker whatever name he conjures up.
I don't see much sympathy extended to Cosby. Well, maybe he doesn't deserve it, but he's had a great fall. Perhaps pity and terror is overstating it, but it's a tragedy nonetheless. He did a lot of things right, but his sexual wiring was out of whack. How do you even pick up a crazy fetish like that anyway? He definitely caused harm, and he's damned lucky some poor woman didn't throw up and choke on her vomit. But having said that, I don't think any of the women suffered irreparable harm. I don't know what the appropriate punishment is, but I wouldn't want to see him die in prison. And then, again, it doesn't seem right that someone could spend decades drugging and raping women and never spend a day in jail because if it. I just don't know what the proper punishment is.
“But having said that, I don't think any of the women suffered irreparable harm.”
I think that vastly underestimates they way some individuals take on sexual assault as their fault, or a reflection of their inherent lack of value or worth or power. Insecure and emotionally vulnerable people are often selelected as targets, precisely because they’re insecure and vulnerable. And even if people incorrectly ascribe subsequent problems to a past sexual assault, that’s not experientially different from correctly ascribing then. Cosby injected a profoundly negative experience into the lives of a LOT of people. He does deserve jail time, in my view. Perhaps a year or two once his his otherwise clean record and history of charitable work etc. are considered.
A dangerous world when mere accusation by the alleged victim with no physical or forensic evidence is enough to convict someone. It's also fairly dangerous when other "witnesses" testify, not to the actual events involved in the case, but to their own alleged victimization.
Don't get me wrong, I think Cosby is guilty, but it doesn't seem to meet the standard necessary to convict.
Patton Oswald is a disengeuos ultra liberal who puts his own gratification above all else. He couldn't wait for the body to get cold before he got involved and married again.
He is part of a long line of Hollywood sociopaths who off their wives and get away with it.
Snark said... "Cosby injected a profoundly negative experience into the lives of a LOT of people. He does deserve jail time, in my view. Perhaps a year or two once his his otherwise clean record and history of charitable work etc. are considered."
Jesus, you people. Bill Cosby was on top of the world, for decades. He was loved and admired by millions, with wealth beyond spending. And his response to his good fortune was to seek out vulnerable young women, use his celebrity and power to win their trust, drug them, and rape them. Over and over and over. He's a despicable piece of shit, and he knows it better than you do. If you want to say that he is broken, and feel sorry for him because of that defect, OK, you're a better Christian than I am. But don't give me this "He made me laugh when I was little" bullshit. Charitable work. Give me a break.
"Jesus, you people. Bill Cosby was on top of the world, for decades. He was loved and admired by millions, with wealth beyond spending. And his response to his good fortune was to seek out vulnerable young women, use his celebrity and power to win their trust, drug them, and rape them. Over and over and over. He's a despicable piece of shit, and he knows it better than you do. If you want to say that he is broken, and feel sorry for him because of that defect, OK, you're a better Christian than I am. But don't give me this "He made me laugh when I was little" bullshit. Charitable work. Give me a break."
What the pounding fuck are you on about? Who are "you people"? I don't really give a poo about his charitable work or clean record, but every other American citizen before a sentencing judge will have theirs weighed as potentially mitigating factors. The whole point of this legal exercise was justice, and presumably you would agree that that should be the same justice any other American would get?
I read a legal analyst this morning who suggested that typical sentencing in similar circumstances for a person of similar history might see him sentenced to 22 months or so, so get off your silly high horse.
@Snark. I think your comments are fair and judicious. I would add, however, that Cosby has suffered such a sudden and dramatic reversal of public esteem that that reversal is part of his punishment, albeit extra judicial. In any event, there won't be much income from the reruns of his show.
I agree, and even have a vague sense of some judge somewhere noting something like that on the record as a consideration in another high profile case. In other sexual assault or abuse cases, what you call extra judicial punishment is often the only punishment. People often decry this kind of conviction in the court of public opinion, but sometimes I think it is exactly the right balance. Sex cases are hard to prove in court, and sometimes acquitted-yet-wrecked is the right combined verdict, and honours both the integrity of the justice system and the truth of the experience of the victims.
"I read a legal analyst this morning who suggested that typical sentencing in similar circumstances for a person of similar history might see him sentenced to 22 months or so, so get off your silly high horse."
Well, I haven't read any legal analysts lately, so you have the advantage of me. I do seem to recall, however, that there is some precedent for sentencing to take into account such factors as evidence of similar crimes, and lack of remorse.
Mr. Cosby carefully and consciously groomed his multiple victims, won their trust, then abused them. He is not a stupid man, and I am sure he considered what recourse they might have. He concluded, correctly it appears, that they had no effective recourse. That may well have added to the pleasure he took in his crimes.
I will leave it to you, and your unnamed legal analyst, how many hours of "charity work" it takes to balance an hour of plotting to ruin someone else's life, so that you can enjoy a few minutes of illicit pleasure. Two? Three? Show your work.
You are being pretty ridiculous. You apparently haven't even searched out what the PA sentencing guidelines for a conviction like this are, or what legal experts expect, and yet here you are with your air quotey opinion. Again, I don't care what good Cosby did in his life, but I have the common sense to know that air quoting charity work in this context is foolish, given how predictable it is that it will be presented as mitigating character evidence by any defense lawyer representing Cosby at sentencing. As will his lack of a criminal record, as will his age. The prosecution will argue its aggravating factors, and Cosby will likely be sentenced somewhere in at least shouting distance of the guidelines. If he makes to prison despite his appeal, he will likely do his time peacefully and benefit from whatever time off for good behaviour he is eligible for. If time ultimately served ends up being much more than one or two years, it will be a departure for a crime like this in PA. That fact has nothing to do with what I personally think would be just given the harm he has done, so consider not typing at me like it does.
Snark said ... "Cosby injected a profoundly negative experience into the lives of a LOT of people. He does deserve jail time, in my view. Perhaps a year or two once his his otherwise clean record and history of charitable work etc. are considered."
Well, I asked you to show your work, and I guess you have done so. It appears that your personal view of how much jail time Cosby "deserves" is the same as that of the "legal analyst" you happened to read the other day. Who is he? I'd like to take the argument up with him. Presumably, if he changes his view, yours will change as well.
I'll cease the dull-to-everybody back and forth, and just assume that it's apparent to others that you either can't follow an argument, or choose not to in this instance.
Expert opinion on this issue is pretty much bursting the seams of the internet at the moment. If you're "genuinely interested" you can Google the "issue" and read the "opinions" of "legal analysts" at your "leisure".
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I wonder if OJ would have been acquitted in 2018.
Woke juries.
I feel sorry for him. I wonder how hard they are looking for something on Kayne West now ?
That's it. No more Jello Pudding Pops for me.
He called the prosecuting attorney a 'butthole' for arguing that Cosby was a flight-risk with a private airplane which, were I him and had one, I'd use it.
This poor bastard is getting the social justice warrior butt fuck good and hard.
Another poor black man brought low by the liberals.
But eluding prosecution for fifty rapey years is still quite an achievement, right guys?
He should have done the Patton Oswald. He should have just killed them when he was done with them.
Then he could just walk away.
It wasn't rapey Prole. It was transactional.
They knew the deal. You have to give head to get ahead in Hollywood.
So they incarcerate the old black conservative guy and the rich liberal like Weinstein walks away? Or Spacey? Or Dustin Hoffman? Charlie Rose? Matt Laurer?
It's like that?
Yeah I thought so.
I'm sorry to hear it. I hoped that he hadn't done it.
Earnest Prole said...
"But eluding prosecution for fifty rapey years is still quite an achievement, right guys?"
Eluding? That would require that someone was trying to prosecute him. He's only begun eluding fairly recently, and he's not in prison yet.
The Godfather said...
"I'm sorry to hear it. I hoped that he hadn't done it."
Was there any particular one of the 60+ women he raped that you hoped he hadn't "done"?
A serial Rapist wants acceptance for the good side of his split personality. No deals.
For one, I would have had a lawyer that didn't look like a hippie too cheap to get a haircut.
Cosby had a lawyer, a jury and will have appeals. Due Process Revoke bail and put him in a prison hospital,. He can sit there while he appeals.
Unfortunate "prison stripe" effect with the shirt.
Why I'm shocked!
Only after 50 + accusers..........
Eluding? That would require that someone was trying to prosecute him.
To the contrary, like Harvey Weinstein and Bill Clinton he built an entire system to elude responsibility for his rapey actions -- the tribute vice pays to virtue, as they say.
I think the appeal may be based on the other women allowed to testify.
He can keep the appeals running until he's 101.
Earnest Prole said...
"To the contrary, like Harvey Weinstein and Bill Clinton he built an entire system to elude responsibility for his rapey actions"
I think you mean "evade". One eludes pursuit.
langford peel said...
He should have done the Patton Oswald. He should have just killed them when he was done with them.
Then he could just walk away.
What did Patton Oswalt do to deserve this? Genuinely curious.
If the statute of limitations is 12 years in PA, and the assault occurred in 2004, how is Cosby being prosecuted? Has it taken 2 years for this to come to trial? Is that a "speedy trial"?
Michael K
I know that’s about a “pattern of behavior “ which is often admitted but it feels dodgy to me. If only we had a law prof to expatiate ...
I'm hoping expatiate is an annoying triggering word btw.
It's hookers and lawyers making a living.
“ Is that a "speedy trial"?“
More a benzo trial, really.
Due process was delivered. And that is that.
....and if he had never lectured the black community about accountability, and responsibility, then would he still be guilty??
“I feel sorry for him.”
Of course you do.
“I wonder how hard they are looking for something on Kayne West now ?”
Why, did he drug and rape numerous women too?
Cosby should just fly to Paris and start making movies. then he'd be a hero again.
I think you mean "evade". One eludes pursuit.
That sounds lawyerly -- not that there's anything wrong with that.
Why, did he drug and rape numerous women too?
Nope but he has wandered off the liberal reservation too...which apparently is even worse.
I suggest Kanye should start looking at homes in Paris immediately.
Regarding Cosby's approach towards the black community, I obviously agree and if anything he did not got far enough in his critiques. But I think the notion that Bill Cosby was taken down because of that point-of-view is a bit silly. For one thing, the allegation this case is based on took place in January 2004, before Cosby gave his infamous "poundcake speech." The allegations against Cosby only snowballed after Hannibal Buress spent months joking about him in a comedy routine in 2014. By 2014, was Bill Cosby on anyone's radar?
“Nope but he has wandered off the liberal reservation too...which apparently is even worse.”
Apparent to who?
Nope but he has wandered off the liberal reservation too...which apparently is even worse.”
Apparent to who?
Anyone with a functioning brain.
So pull your pants up, right-wingers.
Why does this "Drudge" guy have to say "guilty" three times? And why do you read/quote him? What's so wrong with "just the facts" and why is it so important to follow a guy with a tabloid's sense of sensationalism?
Who the hell puts headlines in "red?" Is he running a firehouse or a news website? Why is every headline designed to provoke alarm or contempt or fear?
The allegations against Cosby only snowballed after Hannibal Buress spent months joking about him in a comedy routine in 2014
Which would never have happened if Cosby had still been a Liberal hero.
@Gahrie:
Which would never have happened if Cosby had still been a Liberal hero.
Weinstein was a liberal hero. Didn't do much to stop the allegation factory churning out accusations.
If the statute of limitations is 12 years in PA, and the assault occurred in 2004, how is Cosby being prosecuted? Has it taken 2 years for this to come to trial? Is that a "speedy trial"?
You should assume that his lawyers did everything they could to hold it up. Change the venue, object to the jurisdiction, jury selection, Cosby's age and condition as a source of infirmity casting doubt on his fitness to stand trial. Duh. Right-wingers should really take a basic course on how law and the justice system work in this country.
Weinstein was a liberal hero. Didn't do much to stop the allegation factory churning out accusations.
Weinstein was incidental damage in an attempt to destroy Trump. He got hit by friendly fire.
Amazing how many commenters you have that insist on reading anything (and everything) political into this sad trial and its outcome.
Some people.
So, what's the penalty for rape that isn't rape rape?
It should also be noted that the initial reaction to the Weinstein story by the MSM was an attempt to kill the story.
If you say nice things about Trump the NYT's openly speculates about your mental health.
A favorite tactic of the left. Stalin in particular.
He fingered her, she fingered him. Payback.
“Why does this "Drudge" guy have to say "guilty" three times? ”
It’s almost certainly a reference to Gloria Allred saying it three times at a presser post verdict.
I have no dog in this fight; but am I to assume from some of the comments here ("Woke jury," etc.) that some people here think he was railroaded? If so, why? Evidence, please, not mind reading.
“So, what's the penalty for rape that isn't rape rape?”
Only his fingers have to do the time. The rest of him can stand outside the cell.
Black people are going to be making obvious comparisons between Bill Cosby and Bill Clinton.
Similar number of victims.
One is white. The other is black. Only one goes to jail.
“Why does this "Drudge" guy have to say "guilty" three times? ”
It’s almost certainly a reference to Gloria Allred saying it three times at a presser post verdict.
So Drudge views matters of justice through Gloria Allred's eyes. (Or mouth). Interesting.
Pathetic, empty and emblematic of his political tribe - but interesting.
Which would never have happened if Cosby had still been a Liberal hero.
Oh fer fuck's sake. Harvey Weinstein was the essential connected liberal hero in both Hollywood and the Hamptons, yet he was taken down.
J. Farmer said...
@Gahrie:
Which would never have happened if Cosby had still been a Liberal hero.
Weinstein was a liberal hero. Didn't do much to stop the allegation factory churning out accusations.
Weinstein is living in several mansions with millions of dollars. The poor guy. And how many leftist media institutions spiked Ronan's story before it was finally begrudgingly printed?
And then there is Bill Clinton.
Seems like he deserves the conviction, but I do wonder about the accuser acknowledging that he gave her "3 blue pills" with wine. She presumably knew she was taking illegal drugs with a man in a private location. One could argue that her chance to avoid the encounter was waived when she chose to drug herself.
“Why does this "Drudge" guy have to say "guilty" three times?"
Um . . . maybe because there were three charges and three guilty verdicts?
Earnest Prole said...
Which would never have happened if Cosby had still been a Liberal hero.
Oh fer fuck's sake. Harvey Weinstein was the essential connected liberal hero in both Hollywood and the Hamptons, yet he was taken down.
Begrudgingly. Accidentally.
And 0 prosecutions.
Absolutely no civil or criminal suits despite several credible accusations of rape.
Amazing how many commenters you have that insist on reading anything (and everything) political into this sad trial and its outcome.
When their only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Um . . . maybe because there were three charges and three guilty verdicts?
"Convicted on all three counts" sounds more professional but who am I to judge Mr. Fire Alarm's journalistic integrity when it comes to activating the reading interests of the same sensationalist right that comprises his audience?
And 0 prosecutions.
Absolutely no civil or criminal suits despite several credible accusations of rape.
Oh dear lord. Do the right-wingers not even realize that an accuser has to agree to bring charges? Is that no longer the case? WTF? Pretty hard for the state to go to trial with a judicially unwilling accuser.
It wasn't rapey Prole. It was transactional. They knew the deal. You have to give head to get ahead in Hollywood.
Instead of cozying up to an aspiring Hollywood starlet, Cosby targeted the director of operations for Temple University’s women’s basketball team (who also happened to be a lesbian -- who knew?). Instead of asking for a blowjob, he drugged and assaulted her. But otherwise your point makes perfect transactional sense.
Actually, Earnest, she drugged herself.
“When their only tool is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”
When you ARE a tool, everything also looks like nail.
"Evidence, please, not mind reading."
That's the problem with the verdict. Evidence, lack of.
Achilles said...
If you say nice things about Trump the NYT's openly speculates about your mental health.
People have been openly speculating about Kanye's mental health even since he hooked up with the Kardashians. Try to keep up.
People have been openly speculating about Kanye's mental health even since he hooked up with the Kardashians.
I do believe the actual history of this goes back to South Park's infamous "Gay Fish" episode and the rapper in question's infamous all caps-locks insanely appreciative (but sad!) response to it. (Since deleted).
Maybe Kanye's where Full Moon gets his commenting habits from.
This presidency really is activating the closet narcissists. And obviously the open narcissists.
Nearly all of the women who have come forward have stated that their hesitancy on coming forward was due to the fact that he was such a revered and esteemed public figure. His reputation is what enabled him to get away with it for so long. Until very, very recently, sex offenders with good liberal credentials were treated gently. That's just a fact. Bill Clinton's victims were "bimbos". There must be hundreds of women with stories about him or Ted Kennedy or MLK, but where are they. They all know the price to be paid.. That's not exactly the case with ladies who have encountered Trump. Those ladies know that there's no price to be paid but rather a surcharge to be rendered.
Bill Cosby always seemed like a decent and likable guy. Perhaps, aside from the drugging and raping, he was. I'd hate to see him die in prison. Maybe he can string out the appeals until such time as he's dead. That wouldn't be such an unfitting resolution to his case. He's lost his legacy, his reputation, his health. I'd be willing to settle for that.
Spotty animals can have striped tails, but striped animals can't have spotty tails.
Murray's theorem.
I am naturally skeptical of anything involving Gloria Allred, Sr. and Jr.
But the jury has spoken. Pending appeals we can all accept that we have found the closest approximation of justice available. Any injection of politics (see my criticism of both Gloria Allreds above) into this matter seems mis-directed.
Kanye is public enemy #1 in proggy commune group-think plantation singularity hivemind. the daggers and the opposition researchers out out in full brown-shirt force.
Noted these same progressives do not care at all about Clinton corruption.
LOL to Ritmom's new name and avatar.
Look how fast the white progressives throw the brown man under the bus.
Racists.
I doubt very much anyone is going to put him in prison.
On the other hand a great number of lawyers are going to do their best to take his fortune, and the real losers here will be his children and grandchildren.
"Kanye is public enemy #1 in proggy commune group-think plantation singularity hivemind."
This week. Next week, who knows.
More Ritmo.
Bye.
William Chadwick said...
"I have no dog in this fight; but am I to assume from some of the comments here ("Woke jury," etc.) that some people here think he was railroaded? If so, why? Evidence, please, not mind reading."
1 - There was testimony that the victim had discussed the possibility of accusing a wealthy celebrity of sexual assault in order to get a large payout prior to the alleged incident.
2 - She did, in fact, do just that, and Cosby paid over $3 million.
3 - As mentioned upthread, she admitted to taking the drugs, although she says she was not expecting such a powerful effect.
Points worth considering, but I think the large number of accusers and the similarity of their accounts makes a much stronger case for his guilt. Some conservatives believe he was railroaded because he went around upbraiding the "black community" for its general fecklessness. Perhaps by doing so he called attention to himself, that lead to the famous Burriss incident. But if he actually raped all those women, as I think he did, he has some nerve lecturing anyone this side of Joe Stalin about anything.
If Harvey Weinstein(D) is guilty of even a fraction of what he is being accused of, why hasn't he been charged?
No one is getting Cosby’s money. He already paid the victim $3.3 million. None of the other accusers/victims is getting a dime. Too late to sue Cosby. They tried to sue him for defamation when he denied the accusations years after the limitations period expired on any assault civil claim. Got nowhere. Cosby’s family will get his money. The victim will get paid by the news media for her interviews. And everyone will move on.
buwaya said...
"On the other hand a great number of lawyers are going to do their best to take his fortune, and the real losers here will be his children and grandchildren."
And let's not forget his lovely wife. Now there's a piece of work.
Is Harvey going to jail?
Full Moonbeam - still butthurt at having lost his temper tantrum on yesterday's Scott Adams thread and deleted the majority of his comments on it - chimes in here to declare that he is into identity politics.
So does that mean you're a full-blown social justice warrior, too, Little Snowflake? How does that jibe with your worship of your hero, Trump?
I'm interested in which feminist theory best describes the one you identify with most. Do tell us, Little Guy.
Cosby is said to have been engaged in this behavior since forever, and it is very hard to believe that these women did not know that.
In any case, what women not certifiably "developmentally challenged" does not conclude something not good is up when offered pills "to relax" when alone with a man in his hotel room?
mccullough said...
"No one is getting Cosby’s money. He already paid the victim $3.3 million. None of the other accusers/victims is getting a dime."
buwaya said the lawyers would get it. An appeal is planned. The doctors will probably get some too. When there's blood in the water, all the ethical professions gather round. But yeah, I think there'll be plenty left for Camille and the kids.
Thank you, Dickin' Bimbos. I always knew that at least one of you had good taste and a good sense of humor.
Hagar said...
Jesus Christ, Hagar. Just get a big sign that says "I Blame The Victims! All 60 Of Them!"
The names change but the song remains the same:.
LOL
Ritmo Brasileiro said...
It's good to know that the stupidest threads are just ripe for the threadjacking. I'll be sure to leave a trail of turds on every one of the brain droppings here that suit my fancy. Getting you shit-eaters to complain about the taste after opening your mouths wide and saying "Ahhhh..." to every bad idea under the sun is very satisfying, I must admit.
10/16/10, 10:28 AM
"The allegations against Cosby only snowballed after Hannibal Buress spent months joking about him in a comedy routine in 2014."
Buress specifically said he made his accusations, while making them, because of Cosby's disrespect for Black culture and his popularity with white audiences. The entire case was politically motivated.
"what women not certifiably "developmentally challenged" does not conclude something not good is up when offered pills "to relax" when alone with a man in his hotel room?"
Some people engage in recreational sex voluntarily. Some people voluntarily use recreational drugs. Some people voluntarily combine the two pursuits.
Are women people?
@Gahrie:
It should also be noted that the initial reaction to the Weinstein story by the MSM was an attempt to kill the story.
And the Cosby story had been around for over a decade before it hit the public's attention.
Meanwhile, here is another of your modest attempts at subtle humor.
You really feel butthurt about that one, don't you? You bring it up all the time.
Well, at least I try. Unlike you, who can't tell if your 8:33 comment yesterday was worth leaving up or deleting.
Or your 8:27.
Or your 8:08.
Or 7:57.
Or 7:52.
Or 7:49.
Or 7:42.
Or 7:27.
Or 7:21.
Or 7:08.
Or 7:06.
Or 6:58.
Or 6:55. Or 6:53. Or 6:51.
Or 5:50.
Or 2:40 PM.
Or 2:34. Or 2:27.
That's like 19 comments of yours yesterday that you deleted. Why are you so ashamed of what you wrote that you can't leave them up there, Full Mooned?
Is that why you call yourself "Full Moon", BTW? You pull your pants down to show everyone your butt and then regret it? Like you wish you could take it back, or delete it - or something?
@Char Char Binks:
Buress specifically said he made his accusations, while making them, because of Cosby's disrespect for Black culture and his popularity with white audiences. The entire case was politically motivated.
Here's the entirety of what he said on the subject: "Thirteen? And it’s even worse because Bill Cosby has the fucking smuggest old black man public persona that I hate. Pull your pants up, black people, I was on TV in the ’80s. I can talk down to you because I had a successful sitcom. Yeah, but you raped women, Bill Cosby. So, brings you down a couple notches."
I think "politically motivated" is a bit of a stretch.
Blogger langford peel said...
They knew the deal. You have to give head to get ahead in Hollywood.
I remember a TV interview with one of Ray Charles former Raylettes perhaps 10-15 years ago.
She said that "To be a Raylette, you had to let Ray" have sex with you. She didn't seem to be upset about it. She seemed to think that if that was the price you had to pay for a great gig like that, it was OK. I think she was a Raylette for 10-15 years so it could not have been too bad.
John Henry
So Full Mooned is already responsible for two of three self-deletions here in this very thread, tonight.
Maybe we can get lucky and he will delete them all. Shouldn't be hard, he's much better at quoting others than actually coming up with anything on his own to say.
Maybe he will just stop being a regret-prone retard and not post any comments, any of his garbage in the first place. But that would take some actual insight, intelligence and self-control - three qualities that he resents so badly it drives him crazy.
I think "politically motivated" is a bit of a stretch.
Why? It was clearly an attempt to punish Cosby for stating truths about Black culture.
I loved Bill Cosby from I Spy, his comedy albums, Fat Albert, TV appearances and more. I even liked his Huxtable show for a while before I recognized the child abuse. I thought it terrific that, even though he had no need of it, he got a doctorate in education. I admired the way he spoke out and what he had to say.
I don't know if he was guilty or not but I can't help having a sneaking feeling that he was railroaded for being an uppity black man.
Sad to see this happen. If he did it, I am sad that he did. I did not think he was that kind of man. If he did do it, he deserves to be jailed.
Are you watching this, Kanye? Did you get the message?
John Henry
Educated MicroBiologists with many faces wonders:
That's like 19 comments of yours yesterday that you deleted. Why are you so ashamed of what you wrote that you can't leave them up there, Full Mooned?
Is that why you call yourself "Full Moon", BTW? You pull your pants down to show everyone your butt and then regret it? Like you wish you could take it back, or delete it - or something?
My comments are fine art, like Tibetan Buddhist Sand Mandala
Enjoy while you can before the climate changes and they disappear..
My comments are fine art, like Tibetan Buddhist Sand Mandala ..
No, they're just highly derivative and unoriginal, stupid shit that you become ashamed of having posted a few short minutes later.
Save yourself the trouble and don't post them to begin with. All that deletion must take as much effort as all those comment saving and stalking activities.
No one got anything out of any comment you ever posted, and you know it.
Your like Trump's Twitter feed, but with a "regretful, delayed self-awareness" function.
Blogger Snark said...
“Why does this "Drudge" guy have to say "guilty" three times? ”
It’s almost certainly a reference to Gloria Allred saying it three times at a presser post verdict.
I read Drudge as referencing the 3 guilty verdicts.
John Henry
J. Farmer said...
"I can talk down to you because I had a successful sitcom. Yeah, but you raped women, Bill Cosby. So, brings you down a couple notches."
If you want to argue that Cosby would have got away clean had he not provoked that black comedian, you could certainly be right. But if you want to argue that the prosecution was politically motivated, then you need to point at the actions of prosecutors, in court or outside.
A useful measure of the standards of the "black community", by the way. Couple notches for rape, three or four for murder, six or eight for snitchin'. Pretty soon you're talking serious notches.
The Blue Angels Navy flight demo team has a support plane that carries the crews and gear to their shows. The name of the plane is Fat Albert.
It seems to be a reference to Cosby's Fat Albert character.
So what happens to this? Do the Blues change the name of the plane? Do they come up with some, non-Cosby, lineage for the name?
It sure won't look good for a bunch of horny Naval Aviators to be flying around with a plane honoring a convicted rapist.
Remember the Tailhook convention!
John Henry
At least the last 50 of them, Jupiter.
Perhaps you should ask a woman what she thinks of this case.
Gee your smart. Unlike some, I expect nobody to read my comments to to.
Right. Because when they go through the comments threads they talk to each other. Whereas you just talk to yourself.
If you don't expect anyone to read them, why post them? To prove that you could open your journal diary out in a public forum and then puzzle over the result? To prove that you exist here?
That is astonishingly similar to the exhibitionist flasher who doesn't expect anyone to look at him when he opens the trench coat and exposes himself, but does it for his own pleasure at having done the dastardly deed - subsequently puzzling over why it is that he would get arrested and opprobrium over something no one wanted to see.
I always knew you were a pervert in some way. I guess this is the explanation. You're a comments-thread self-exposer.
HAHAHAHAHA. What a cunt!
No wonder people tell him to "get a room!"
And he calls other people "dumb!"
ROFLMAO.
Cunt. Go have your wife read all that. Before she rolls her eyes at you.
Different thread. Same folks slinging the same poo...
>>So what happens to this? Do the Blues change the name of the plane? Do they come up with some, non-Cosby, lineage for the name?
Unperson. Memory hole.
Hagar said...
"At least the last 50 of them, Jupiter.
Perhaps you should ask a woman what she thinks of this case."
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that all 50 of them should have known -- no wait, must certainly have known -- that Bill Cosby was a serial rapist, and that they therefore deserved exactly what they got.
Hey! Anybody with a vagina want to set me straight here? Exile? Igna? DBQ? Come tell me Hagar has it right, they were all begging for it. The drugs, the creepy paralyzed sex, the fingering. Best night of their lives.
Umm, dumbfuck, you are reading my comments and responding.Why?
And you are reading my comments and quoting them. Why?
Because you are desperate for attention and need to expose yourself to people you feel insecure around, before running away and deleting your comment and pretending it never happened.
Just like a flasher/exhibitionist.
“I read Drudge as referencing the 3 guilty verdicts.”
Possibly. I read Drudge as referencing Gloria Allred referencing the 3 guilty verdicts. :) He usually has a couple of levels going on.
Cosby had the same attitude about "closet freaks".
So says a comments thread exhibitionist who shows up just to expose himself to others he expects to disregard him.
Let that sink in.
Also, confusing rape with whatever unconventional sexuality you read into that comment basically telegraphs that you and/or your wife must have utterly conventional (boring) sex lives. So unfulfilling that you seem to require others to share it to feel better about how boring it is.
Let that sink in.
Now, what do you think of Trump's interest in porn stars and playmates? Have you endorsed that kind of freakishness now that your "WINNING" guy lets on to being into it? Or have you been tempted to pay off women to shut up about having been with you all along?
At some point you'll have to explain your sexual schizophrenia.
Credit where credit is due, Goofy. You apologized for referencing Inga's Anus.
Did you apologize for fixating on it?
Explain closet freak behavior, RedPill Guru.
LOL
I don't know. Explain boring bedroom behavior, SJW.
LOL.
Once in a while the cops will have a program, where they explain to people how to keep yourself safe from crime. Keep your doors locked. Good, expensive locks, not the cheap crap the builder put on. Keep your windows locked. Trim the bushes around your house, and get security lights and cameras.
I look at that, and I think, what you're telling me, is how to make sure my neighbor gets robbed instead of me. But I don't want that. I want the God-damned robber taken off the street, so my neighbor and I don't need to live like hunted animals, hoping the other one will get eaten first.
Bill Cosby hunted young women like animals. And if you want to argue, Hagar, that some of them were easier to trap than others, fine, go ahead. But Bill Cosby was going to find women to rape. Not because some women are stupid, but because Bill Cosby was and remains a predatory POS. He should have been taken down a long time ago. Better late than never.
Seriously, SJW Moon. How boring is your woman in bed?
Boring enough so that it's no one suspects otherwise?
She wouldn't want to keep her boring antics quiet... you know... "in the closet."
You're so sexually frustrated it's hilarious.
SJW Moon's wife is so boring in bed that he has to come here to loudly proclaim it.
I guess that's one more thing about himself that he finds it exhilarating to, you know, "expose."
He gets off on exposing himself, you know. That way.
It's like when flashers expose themselves, they don't seem to realize how unimpressive others tend to find them. But they still find it a really fun thing to do.
Since Bacl[page shutdown, Ritmo has more time-and Vaseline-on his hands.
LOL
Just kidding bro!
How boring is your mother in bed?
Oh, that's original. Couldn't come up with anything better, I see?
Looks like I hit a nerve. Your wife's a sexual bore.
Instead of insulting others why not deal with your frustration.
Tell her what you're into (other than coming on here and having a libido release out of it) and discuss it with her.
Figure out what you're into. You know. Something she might actually agree to.
Or is she really that frigid?
Looks like I hit a nerve. Your mother is a sexual bore.
Instead of insulting others why not deal with your frustration.
Tell her what you're into (other than coming on here and having a libido release out of it) and discuss it with her.
Figure out what you're into. You know. Something she might actually agree to.
Or is she really that frigid?
4/26/18, 8:55 PM
LOL!
Your mother is a sexual bore.
Well see, unlike you do with your mom, I don't have sex with my mother so I wouldn't know.
But back to your wife, now. Everyone just got off of her. You were about to explain why she is so unexciting and uninteresting - sexually speaking.
Stop exposing around the edges. Tell us just how boring she is and why that's so important to you, despite how much it obviously bothers you.
Looks like someone lost the argument. Changing everything into a mother joke is pretty much as desperate as it gets.
Do you even have a mother? Perhaps you have a wife, but if you're unsatisfied with her you don't have to project about it.
Exactly how many of these stupidities of yours are you going to delete before tomorrow?
One word: squalor.
FullMoon, you idiot! Shut up and take out the garbage. Your beer bottles are overflowing and you’ve embarrassed yourself enough for tonight. I apologize for my husband. He gets drunk every night since he got fired.
Looks like someone lost the argument. Changing everything into a wife joke is pretty much as desperate as it gets.
Do you even have a woman? Perhaps you have a woman, but if you're unsatisfied with her you don't have to project about it.
Exactly how many of these stupidities of yours are you going keep repeating?
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12/29/17, 7:55 PM
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12/29/17, 7:58 PM
LOL!
Didn’t I tell you to shut up you loser FullMoon! Stop bothering these people and go to bed so you can get up before noon and get a job! The kids are tired of eating mac and cheese while you drink away the unemployment check.
Someone's responding to the wrong person. Someone's also revealing a very sick hatred for women in a very lurid way.
In response to inquiring into his sexual control issues with women, FullMoon posted the following:
"That's it? Your mother sucked thousands of dick and took it in the ass to pay for education and that is the best you can do? SAD!"
The comment speaks for itself.
FullMoon if you don’t shut up and go to bed, I’ll have to let these people know that you aren’t in your right mind since you ran over our youngest in the driveway when you came home drunk last year. Then after he got fired he kicked the neighbor’s cat to death. I had him committed for a while, but they let him loose.
President Pee-Pee Tape said...
Someone's responding to the wrong person.
Oh, sure, my bad! LOL!
FullMoon assaulted his psychiatrist and now they won’t let him come back to the free clinic.
FullMoon eats his hair when he get agitated. Once he had a big hair ball in his gut and we had to call 911.
FullMoon scares the kids when he growls and howls on nights he can’t get online.
FullMoon told me he set his house on fire when he was 10 years old.
Yeah, you are "bad." (Not in a good way).
Mrs. FullMoon is funny, but she's not me.
More people here hate you (or find you to be a stupid joke) than you're capable of understanding.
FullMoon refuses to cut his toenails and bites them off instead. Then he saves them in a little jewelry box with a ballerina on it. He stole it from our daughter.
.FullMoon assaulted his psychiatrist and now they won’t let him come back to the free clinic.
4/26/18, 9:33 PM
Jury ruled not guilty on that one.
FullMoon’s mom told me not to marry him, that he always has been strange and touched in the head.
FullMoon went to our son’s school and stole toilet paper out of the boys’ bathrooms.
Then FullMoon terrorized the little kindergarten kids when he passed out on one of their nap mats. They had to call the cops and he got tased.
Full Moon taught our baby to pick her nose.
FullMoon’s former boss said he was masturbating at work continually, they had to let him go.
FullMoon’s sisters said they had to put a lock on the bedroom door for their protection.
Once FullMoon was really drunk, stuck an object in his anus and it got stuck and I was so embarrassed at the ER.
Is there some weakness among women that compares to a man's willingness to blow everything for such a temporary sexual experience. I can't think of one. It's really a male thing, and frankly, it's terrifying.
There was so much about Cosby that was good, and right, and valuable. A life truely to be envied, respected, and which a man could be very proud of, yet simple sex, easily found in non-criminal and non-exploitative ways was valued for a moment above it all ... over and over again.
I understand it from my own occasional temptations, and the power of it is incredible. All values and standards are put in play, and a man must fight the beast to hold on to them. If he gives in, the payoff is certainly a disappointment, especially when he realizes what he paid for it. I've come close, as I'm sure many men must admit to themselves, but so far I held out until age has weakened the beast and strengthened the character, but just barely in time. The fight was long and hard, but I think I made it. Cosby did not. Now as the old man who could resist easily, he arrived too late and didn't fight hard enough when it counted. Victims everywhere. Victims of weakness against nature, but isn't that always the challenge?
It is you.
Aggressive ignorance. Just saying shit to say it. Not respecting people. Not knowing shit. Advertising how it was that his community college applications got shoved aside into the "REJECTION" pile.
But seriously, his opinion on AGW is also just as intelligent.
The women, who are truly victims, would never trade places with him. That's how bad he fucked up. Even rape victims would not want to be you. Don't be that guy.
FullMoon raped our chihuahua.
FullMoon doesn’t know I’m seeing his former boss and the sex is tremendous. I finally know what a full size penis looks like.
I took a picture of FullMoon sucking his thumb.
It is you.
It's the three million extra voters Trump imagined. They're all one and the same. Not a single individual person among them at all. Just pretending to be different people. Yep - easy to do, if you've got as much time on your hands as Full Mooned does.
FullMoon eats sand out of the kids’ sandbox.
FullMoon pees the bed almost every night. He has to sleep in the garage now.
Look at the last 50 comments. We have been invaded by imbeciles. ( Attracted by Inga's pheromones?)
Nah, Ken B. It's that Full Moon craptacle. He does endless displays of aggressively stupid shit and convinces himself that it somehow means he got the best of (whomever). Kind of like when Charlie Sheen went on his "WINNING!" spree and came back to tell the tale of a lost job, millions spent on rehab and an HIV diagnosis. FullMoon has tiger blood and Adonis DNA.
Looks like he's now undergone a thorough self- (and administrator-assisted) deletion.
For him it's like taking a bath.
Toothless is protecting his screen name by using new sockpuppets--President pp tape and Mrs Full Moon. He thinks Toothless has credibility attached and Soros earning potential--especially since he has tried to pass himself off as a climate change warrior. We think he's a stupid cocksucker whatever name he conjures up.
cocksucker? What's that dangling between your lips, Darrell?
After dealing with that other guy's over-the-top, shameless stupidity yours is just a mild aggravation. Sort of like a rash.
Maybe you're a sock puppet for FullMoon. Sad.
I don't see much sympathy extended to Cosby. Well, maybe he doesn't deserve it, but he's had a great fall. Perhaps pity and terror is overstating it, but it's a tragedy nonetheless. He did a lot of things right, but his sexual wiring was out of whack. How do you even pick up a crazy fetish like that anyway? He definitely caused harm, and he's damned lucky some poor woman didn't throw up and choke on her vomit. But having said that, I don't think any of the women suffered irreparable harm. I don't know what the appropriate punishment is, but I wouldn't want to see him die in prison. And then, again, it doesn't seem right that someone could spend decades drugging and raping women and never spend a day in jail because if it. I just don't know what the proper punishment is.
Hannibal Buress
Came at the King
Did not miss.
“But having said that, I don't think any of the women suffered irreparable harm.”
I think that vastly underestimates they way some individuals take on sexual assault as their fault, or a reflection of their inherent lack of value or worth or power. Insecure and emotionally vulnerable people are often selelected as targets, precisely because they’re insecure and vulnerable. And even if people incorrectly ascribe subsequent problems to a past sexual assault, that’s not experientially different from correctly ascribing then. Cosby injected a profoundly negative experience into the lives of a LOT of people. He does deserve jail time, in my view. Perhaps a year or two once his his otherwise clean record and history of charitable work etc. are considered.
"What did Patton Oswalt do to deserve this? Genuinely curious."
Nothing. Exactly nothing.
Gloria Alred: finally women were believed.
A dangerous world when mere accusation by the alleged victim with no physical or forensic evidence is enough to convict someone. It's also fairly dangerous when other "witnesses" testify, not to the actual events involved in the case, but to their own alleged victimization.
Don't get me wrong, I think Cosby is guilty, but it doesn't seem to meet the standard necessary to convict.
Patton Oswald is a disengeuos ultra liberal who puts his own gratification above all else. He couldn't wait for the body to get cold before he got involved and married again.
He is part of a long line of Hollywood sociopaths who off their wives and get away with it.
Snark said...
"Cosby injected a profoundly negative experience into the lives of a LOT of people. He does deserve jail time, in my view. Perhaps a year or two once his his otherwise clean record and history of charitable work etc. are considered."
Jesus, you people. Bill Cosby was on top of the world, for decades. He was loved and admired by millions, with wealth beyond spending. And his response to his good fortune was to seek out vulnerable young women, use his celebrity and power to win their trust, drug them, and rape them. Over and over and over. He's a despicable piece of shit, and he knows it better than you do. If you want to say that he is broken, and feel sorry for him because of that defect, OK, you're a better Christian than I am. But don't give me this "He made me laugh when I was little" bullshit. Charitable work. Give me a break.
"Jesus, you people. Bill Cosby was on top of the world, for decades. He was loved and admired by millions, with wealth beyond spending. And his response to his good fortune was to seek out vulnerable young women, use his celebrity and power to win their trust, drug them, and rape them. Over and over and over. He's a despicable piece of shit, and he knows it better than you do. If you want to say that he is broken, and feel sorry for him because of that defect, OK, you're a better Christian than I am. But don't give me this "He made me laugh when I was little" bullshit. Charitable work. Give me a break."
What the pounding fuck are you on about? Who are "you people"? I don't really give a poo about his charitable work or clean record, but every other American citizen before a sentencing judge will have theirs weighed as potentially mitigating factors. The whole point of this legal exercise was justice, and presumably you would agree that that should be the same justice any other American would get?
I read a legal analyst this morning who suggested that typical sentencing in similar circumstances for a person of similar history might see him sentenced to 22 months or so, so get off your silly high horse.
@Snark. I think your comments are fair and judicious. I would add, however, that Cosby has suffered such a sudden and dramatic reversal of public esteem that that reversal is part of his punishment, albeit extra judicial. In any event, there won't be much income from the reruns of his show.
@William
I agree, and even have a vague sense of some judge somewhere noting something like that on the record as a consideration in another high profile case. In other sexual assault or abuse cases, what you call extra judicial punishment is often the only punishment. People often decry this kind of conviction in the court of public opinion, but sometimes I think it is exactly the right balance. Sex cases are hard to prove in court, and sometimes acquitted-yet-wrecked is the right combined verdict, and honours both the integrity of the justice system and the truth of the experience of the victims.
Snark said ...
"I read a legal analyst this morning who suggested that typical sentencing in similar circumstances for a person of similar history might see him sentenced to 22 months or so, so get off your silly high horse."
Well, I haven't read any legal analysts lately, so you have the advantage of me. I do seem to recall, however, that there is some precedent for sentencing to take into account such factors as evidence of similar crimes, and lack of remorse.
Mr. Cosby carefully and consciously groomed his multiple victims, won their trust, then abused them. He is not a stupid man, and I am sure he considered what recourse they might have. He concluded, correctly it appears, that they had no effective recourse. That may well have added to the pleasure he took in his crimes.
I will leave it to you, and your unnamed legal analyst, how many hours of "charity work" it takes to balance an hour of plotting to ruin someone else's life, so that you can enjoy a few minutes of illicit pleasure. Two? Three? Show your work.
@Jupiter
You are being pretty ridiculous. You apparently haven't even searched out what the PA sentencing guidelines for a conviction like this are, or what legal experts expect, and yet here you are with your air quotey opinion. Again, I don't care what good Cosby did in his life, but I have the common sense to know that air quoting charity work in this context is foolish, given how predictable it is that it will be presented as mitigating character evidence by any defense lawyer representing Cosby at sentencing. As will his lack of a criminal record, as will his age. The prosecution will argue its aggravating factors, and Cosby will likely be sentenced somewhere in at least shouting distance of the guidelines. If he makes to prison despite his appeal, he will likely do his time peacefully and benefit from whatever time off for good behaviour he is eligible for. If time ultimately served ends up being much more than one or two years, it will be a departure for a crime like this in PA. That fact has nothing to do with what I personally think would be just given the harm he has done, so consider not typing at me like it does.
Snark said ...
"Cosby injected a profoundly negative experience into the lives of a LOT of people. He does deserve jail time, in my view. Perhaps a year or two once his his otherwise clean record and history of charitable work etc. are considered."
Well, I asked you to show your work, and I guess you have done so. It appears that your personal view of how much jail time Cosby "deserves" is the same as that of the "legal analyst" you happened to read the other day. Who is he? I'd like to take the argument up with him. Presumably, if he changes his view, yours will change as well.
I'll cease the dull-to-everybody back and forth, and just assume that it's apparent to others that you either can't follow an argument, or choose not to in this instance.
Expert opinion on this issue is pretty much bursting the seams of the internet at the moment. If you're "genuinely interested" you can Google the "issue" and read the "opinions" of "legal analysts" at your "leisure".
Snark said...
"What the pounding fuck are you on about? ... get off your silly high horse."
I was on about a serial rapist with dozens of victims. Nothing that need concern a Snark, but I'm quite comfortable, I think I'll just stay up here.
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