TAPPER: So, I have to ask, what is the reaction of the Clinton campaign to these DNC leaked e-mails suggesting that top officials, including the CFO there, were actively discussing ways to hurt Bernie Sanders in the primaries?He's just passing along the theory he heard from some "experts." Go ask them if you want some details.
MOOK: Well, I think the DNC needs to look into this and take appropriate action, and I'm sure that they will. What's disturbing to us is that we -- experts are telling us that Russian state actors broke into the DNC, stole these e-mails. And other experts are now saying that the Russians are releasing these e- mails for the purpose of actually helping Donald Trump. I don't think it's coincidental that these e-mails were released on the eve of our convention here. And that's disturbing. And I think we need to be concerned about that. I think we need to be concerned that we also saw last week at the Republican Convention that Trump and his allies made changes to the Republican platform to make it more pro-Russian. And we saw him talking about how NATO shouldn't intervene to defend -- necessarily should intervene to defend our Eastern European allies if they are attacked by Russia. So, I think, when you put all this together, it's a disturbing picture. And I think voters need to reflect on that.
TAPPER: What evidence is there that the Russians were behind this in terms of the hacking or in terms of the timing by WikiLeaks?
MOOK: Well, we need to let the experts speak on this. It's been reported on in the press that the -- that the hackers that got into the DNC are very likely by to be working in coordination with Russia. And, again, I think it's -- if the Russians in fact had these e-mails, again, I don't think it's very coincidental that they are being released at this time to create maximum damage on Hillary Clinton and to help Donald Trump.
TAPPER: But it is a very, very strong charge that you're leveling here. You're basically suggesting that Russians hacked into the DNC and now are releasing these files through WikiLeaks to help elect Donald Trump.
MOOK: Well, this isn't my assertion. There are a number of experts that are asserting this. I think we need to get to the bottom of these facts. But that is what experts are telling us. Experts have said that it is the Russians that, in fact, went in and took these e-mails. And then, if they are the ones who took them, we have to infer that they are the ones then releasing them....
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On "State of the Union" this morning:
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228 पैकी 1 – 200 नवीन› नवीनतम»ARM was all over this BS talking point this morning. What is the DNC supposed to do? Let a crisis go to waste?
Mook the Mook today said...(insert idiocy here).
The experts were Hillary and Sydney Blumenthal.
mook
mo͝ok/
noun US informal
a stupid or incompetent person.
Robby is saying:
Something is happening and we need to find out.
Is this not same as Trump about immigration and refugees? Something is happening and we need to find out.
Yeah those "experts", super smart people who know everything about all that mysterious computer/science/whatever stuff.
How can we disagree with them? We don't even know enough to do that.
Just gotta take it all on faith, no matter how vague.
HRC campaign setting up this narrative that the Russians did this for Trump to prepare the battlefield with the same narrative when wikileaks releases Hillary's deleted emails.
That's the October surprise everybody. The leak of Hillary's deleted emails. They will be mind blowing. Hillary will carry only CA, OR and IL and 40% of the popular vote.
When the naming of names is so super important, supporters of the left always refer to "some folks say" or "experts in this field."
I wonder if the Bernie Bros are going to give a flying f%$@ if it was the Russians who stole and released the emails or not.
No, they're probably a lot more interested in the content of those emails.
And for good reason.
Philly should be fun to watch.
Tell Vlad after my election I'll have more flexibility.
Paul Manafort did a good job rebutting this with Stephanopoulos- he just said let's focus on what's in the E-Mails. Clearly, the DNC rigged the primaries against Bernie, which is what Trump has been saying before the E-Mails were leaked.
Funny how "expert" Journalist jack tapper never thought of asking "expert" politico Mook, precisely WHO those "experts" were.
Because then other "expert" journalists could asked the "experts" why they told Clinton campaign the Russkies were behind it.
But then I'm just average joe and not an "expert".
Mook is too dumb to live in America. Not for trying to smear Trump; that's the Clinton playbook. No, he's dumb for bringing up the possibility that the Russians hacked the DNC's server, leading inevitably to the issue of whether they hacked Hillary's server.
When your were asked what's the biggest geopolitical threat facing America, you said 'Russia,' not Al Qaeda, you said 'Russia.' The nineteen eighties are now calling to ask for their foreign-policy back, because the cold war has been over for twenty years.
So immediately the narrative changes from what was in the Emails to who was actually behind the leaks. As though that somehow lessens the gravity of the words themselves.
Anyway, it's got me to thinking maybe Vladimir isn't such a bad guy after all.
Paranoia runs deep,into your lives it will creep...
There is a circular firing squad forming up over here----------------------->DWS just took one for the team!
So, the Russians are now part of the Vast, Right-Wing Conspiracy?
Welcome aboardski, Comrades!
What would we do without "experts?"
So, how exactly does this hurt Hillary!?
If Hillary! was tied to the DNC perhaps, but she really isn't, and anyway, this is mostly one-way from the DNC, is it not?
I think the Democrats are set on pretending their party is "unified," and nothing like those desperately divided Republicans.
Good luck with that.
If a criminal testifies against another criminal with bad motives, does that show that the testimony is false? Of course any leak of an e-mail is motivated. But it seemingly was the Democratic Party's officers who sent the e-mails that were leaked.
Do you think Hillary is nervous at all?
And I'm definitely not holding my breath waiting for the Democrats to get to the bottom of the truth.
Impossible that Berno has some hackers who feel the bern? I know that implies marketable skill sets and all. But certainly it's possible, no?
Here's the thing: Millions of Americans had their data stolen by foreign hackers off from US Government servers. And the US Government really didn't seem to care.
So ha ha ha, I say. Debbie and Hillary aren't the only people in the world who didn't want their information hacked. I care about them as much as they care about us.
My first thought were, did they get these from Hils email?
If I am going to leak stuff that would piss off this many extremely powerful people? I am leaking it through Russia to cover my tracks. They have completely different laws there regarding cyber security.
This is what the Climategate people did when they leaked that, this is what the angry types at the DNC did.
Yes, Hillary has the Democrat Party regimented. Nurse Ratchet maintains the strictest discipline. These Bernie kids will be ordered to fall in and will do so!
Peggy Coffey said...
My first thought were, did they get these from Hils email?
A lot of 'experts" think that the Russians have all her emails, deleted ones included. These are just warning shots.
The only thing worse than being revealed as a bunch of corrupt creeps is to reveal that they were schlonged by the Russians.
For all we know, Obama is behind the hack and the leaks. What better way to cover your tracks if you say in public that you're supporting Hillary, but would secretly prefer to pick your own successor. And what better time than a week before the convention.
Now that's a conspiracy theory for you.
America's Politico wrote: "Robert is saying: Something is happening and we need to find out."
No, Robert Mook said "-- experts are telling us that Russian state actors broke into the DNC, stole these e-mails. And other experts are now saying that the Russians are releasing these e- mails for the purpose of actually helping Donald Trump."
I certainly hope you're only paid minimum, because as a troll you're pretty lame.
Why would the Russians prefer Trump to Clinton? They know how to deal with Clinton, and they probably have material to blackmail her.
No names of those experts and no evidence of their conclusions are forthcoming, I'll wager.
What exactly is Mook saying? Is it:
a) Talking points
b) Obfuscation
c) Damage Control
d) all of the above
Ever since [catastrophic anthropogenic] global warming, the Democrats have been skating on thin ice.
That said, what difference, at this point, does it make?
Throw another Democrat... I mean, baby, on the barbie and invite Planned Parenthood to cannibalize her remains.
Obama could have picked a successor at any time. Clinton was terribly weak and could have been sidelined by any plausible, well funded primary opponent. The fix was in for Clinton, with Obamas blessing imho.
These political hacks are a riot. Even their names are a source of hilarity. Reince Priebus, I've alway winced when that name arises. It sounds like a laundry product. Robert Mook is just too ridiculous for words. It's a perfect name for a minion.
I always thought his name was Rinsed Penis.
Rep. Marcia Fudge named Permanent Chair of 2016 Democratic National Convention
In the back Fudge is made?
Yeah, and a friend told Harry Reid that Romney paid zero taxes. Harry didn't say it, a friend did.
Quaestor:
When I said he said, I meant to point that it implied: Something is happening (via Russia) and we need to find out (via experts).
Read the entire transcript. He is implying and suggesting at the same time.
Basically, I think, he is following the Trump script. I plan to vote for Dr. Jill Stein. (Bernie was my 1st choice.)
My earnings: Last year, I made $500,000 in consulting fees. I am quite possibly the best political consultant. I tell my clients things, even before they happen.
America's Politico wrote: Is this not same as Trump about immigration and refugees? Something is happening and we need to find out.
No it is not. Muslim immigration bears on the question of terrorism, as 84 Niçoise could tell you if they weren't dead. Mook is just blowing smoke as instructed by a desperate Hillary.
You might as well surrender, AP. GOP is going to win going away!
Why would the Russians prefer Trump to Clinton? They know how to deal with Clinton, and they probably have material to blackmail her.
Even easier, you just pay her, at least according some experts I have heard.
$500,000? You're a poverty row consultant, my friend.
I say wait until The National Enquirer headlines the truth. Those guys are good at this stuff.
Then we demand to see if Trump has promised Vlad the other 2/3s of the US uranium mines.
I suspect Kasich and JEB Bush have friends who can arrange to Disappear Trump and Clinton and both political parties will then agree for them to reign until they certify that all is well again. I got that idea from Left Behind series.
The Enquirer and Revelations and Althouse are all we need.
And the same Russian hackers have all of Hillary's emails too! She's radioactive.
$500,000 would pay for the donuts in my office.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-campaign--and-some-cyber-experts--say-russia-is-behind-email-release/2016/07/24/5b5428e6-51a8-11e6-bbf5-957ad17b4385_story.html
I tell my clients things, even before they happen.
Tell them, "Get ready for President Trump."
Beyond Mook, DNC and Clinton campaign officials have not responded to requests for comment Friday as reporters and unnerved campaign staff tried to assess the damage caused by the release, which comes just as the party holds a nominating convention in Philadelphia designed to project unity after a bitter primary season.
Heh
More of the same Squirrel! bullshit, lawyerdad.
Expert comes from a deponent verb. Passive in form and active in meaning.
If they are so easily schlonged by the Russians, why are they asking to be put in charge of national security - again?
Apparently Mook has bad handwriting. It was supposed to be "Right-wing" and he read it as "Russian."
Eugene Rumer, a former analyst on the National Intelligence Council who left in 2014, said that, if the accusation is true, “the implication is troublesome, no question about it.”
One possibility is the Russians are trying in some way to influence the election outcome and perhaps promote Trump by embarrassing Clinton. If that is the case, “it suggests the kind of misunderstanding of American domestic politics. To think that they can affect the outcome in a country of over 300 million people, with billions spent on electoral campaigns, in a country where there is free media,” he said.
Russia, China, Iran. Israel and Romania all have Hillary's deleted emails. Along with Gucifer who sits in a federal prison. But he saved the deleted emails with instructions.
One of the emails from the DNC apparently refers to Hispanic outreach as "taco bowl engagement".
All this Russians! Russians! crap is bullshit (how's that for a tautology?) The emails were released by Julian Assange, not Putin. He knows the source(s), and he's not telling. Does Mook want to accuse Assange of favoring Trump? The Dems were quite happy with Assange back in 2008, when his Wikileaks appeared to favor Obama. Why is he bad now and good then?
$2.35 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation, a $500,000 speaking fee for Bill, the Uranium One deal, and now the Russians want Hillary to lose. One of these things doesn't fit with the others.
Rep. Marcia Fudge named Permanent Chair of 2016 Democratic National Convention
Perfect name for the job!
Man, the Democrats are making Reince Priebus look like a positive genius!
Maybe the Ruskies will now break into the RNC and pump out a bunch of emails.
But I assure you, it's the DNC that has the most juicy stuff.
It seems everybody and his brother has Clintons emails. And those of everyone who replied to Clinton, etc.
And given the state of security standards in the Federal Government, anyones emails, real time, most likely.
Last years under-reported incident was the Chinese hack of the Office of Personnel Management Security Clearance files, 22 million security clearance documents, for all serving government employees and contractors at the time.
Isn't Assange's lawyer married to George Clooney?
Its best if it is the Russians. Shows how weak and useless the Dems are. Or careless, grossly negligent.
If it's the "experts" who are saying that it was the Russkies, then why isn't Tappert interviewing those experts instead of The Mook?
Why would Assange turn against Clinton if his attorney's husband is such a big fundraiser for her?
"Why would the Russians prefer Trump to Clinton? They know how to deal with Clinton, and they probably have material to blackmail her."
Despite their regional realpolitik with Syria and Iran, the Russians do see the Muzzies as a mortal threat. It's not unthinkable that they'd want an American President who had the same clear recognition of reality. That said, they probably think the Muzzies can be dealt with in the long game and tormenting Hillary with her own stupidity and venality is too good an opportunity to pass up. Shit, they've waited a hundred years to have this much on an American President and the dumb cow just handed it to them! Reset this!
You could break into the Repub emails and find that they're honest. Better to plant something and then discover it.
did you watch Clinton Cash?
It's streaming again at 8 tonight
The Russians Are Coming! The Russians Are Coming! Great movie and Alan Arkin was great.
Just watched Erin Burnett get brained by Manafort when she tried to gotcha him on Mook the Mook's ridiculous allegations. If the Russians hacked the DNC servers then assume so did the Chinese and every other country that has an intelligence service that can do this and the DNC had better security that Hillary's homebrew servers. Maybe the Russians despite of all the bribes they paid the Clintons are afraid that that crooked never stays bought paranoid alcoholic is just too dangerous to have a finger on the button. Can't say they don't have a point if that is the case.
If I had ambitions to become a "Campaign Manager" and my name was "Mook";
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mooks
I would change it.
I am Lord Myrt
Debbie is the Chicken al-la King MRE to Hillary!'s Dehydrated Pork Patty.
I question the wisdom of a spin strategy that draws even more attention to the fact that the Russians have the ability to hack private servers.
Jon,
So Obama is the creamed chipped beef on toast?
Mmm, mmm, mmm.
I love that Hillary has a Campaign Manager named Mook. And a spokesperson named Brian Felon.
I am sure there is a Stella Uraniumseller somewhere there in Brookyln HQ… Her desk is over by Sidney Cattletrader
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/mook -- Noun: a contemptible, incompetent person.
So are these the same "experts" who told Hillary Clinton that it was perfectly safe to store her Email traffic on an unsecured computer?
I have to admit that it's pretty difficult to imagine that the Russians would prefer Donald Trump to someone so utterly clueless that she can't even figure out how to translate "reset" into Russian.
So the Left is OK with the US secretly trying to influence Israeli elections but not OK with Russia secretly trying to influence our elections?
That's racist, right?
Blogger Will said...
I love that Hillary has a Campaign Manager named Mook. And a spokesperson named Brian Felon.
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Then there's the paid liar, Josh Earnest...
Mike, maybe they fear she is stupid or crazy enough to push the button thinking it is the reset button or the Amazon Dash button for more cheetos or vodka.
There's a monty python skit on one of their albums. A talk show host is interviewing a film director about his newest project:
"Tonight we're talking with xxxxxx about his latest project. I understand that your new movie stars Marilyn Monroe."
"That's right, John."
"Marilyn Monroe."
"Right."
"Who's been dead for 30 years."
"Yup."
[Pause] "Are you lying?"
Note that it was said without anger or as an accusation. Just a journalist making sure that he was not lying.
I am so tempted to clip that and attach it to interviews like this.
"-- experts are telling us that Russian state actors broke into the DNC, stole these e-mails. And other experts are now saying that the Russians are releasing these e- mails for the purpose of actually helping Donald Trump."
"Are you lying?"
This "I heard" or "Someone said..." is right out of Trump's playbook. You don't even need to name a source I guess although Trump saying the National Enquirer is a trusted source may be a few steps over the line.
Whereas it is true Trump needs all the help he can get, blaming the Russians is a tad silly ie meaningless minutiae.
Russia surely knows Trump's Reps and Hillary's Dems are quite able to discombobulate/implode all on their own without any help from Putin.
Precisely what Trump has done, right? "People are saying that..." "The Lee Harvey Oswald pictures were in the Enquirer, and the Enquirer has done a lot of big stories..." "Some very skilled investigators have looked into Obama's birth certificate, and his college records..." "Some doctors have told me about vaccines..."
Naturally, I am not siding with Mook or the Clinton campaign. Damn them all. But Trump is the least capable political actor to call this out.
Moar Drugs!
"lifelong republican" Chuck: "Naturally, I am not siding with Mook or the Clinton campaign."
LOL
Good times:
Via GATEWAYPUNDIT
"shocking emails released by Wikileaks.
The list was compiled thanks to the work of Reddit Bernie Sander supporters and Donald Trump supporters:
Hat Tip Steve A.
DNC member killing horses for insurance money.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578
DNC making fun of black womans name.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17942
DNC telling each other, “I love you too. no homo.”
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/425
DNC requesting a pull an MSNBC commentary segment.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/6107
DNC controlling the narrative with time released stories.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450
DNC conspiring to create false Trump information and release with Reuters.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102
DNC Hillary supporters infiltrated Sanders campaign.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776
DNC members going to complain to Morning Joe producers about his mentioning of a “rigged system.”
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8806
DNC discussing their relationship with NBC/MSNBC/CNN and how to get better treatment.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762
Super PAC paying young voters to push back online Sanders supporters. Paid shills.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351
From GATEWAYPUNDIT.
If only Hillary had the same agility with the reset button as she does with the delete.....I thought our difficulties with Russia were due to the clumsiness and stupidity of Bush. Can it possibly be that Russia has interests and aims that are hostile to ours? The upside to this is that the Dems are at long last willing to claim that Russia is capable of spycraft. Does this mean the Rosenbergs and Alger Hiss were guilty?......The Dems are the propagandazing class. Trump's rhetoric injected hate into the campaign. He was thus indirectly responsible for the recent killings of police officers. Trump is a supporter of Putin. That's why the Russians hacked the DNC emails. It couldn't possibly be that a disgruntled Bernie supporter dropped a dime on Hillary and Debbie.
Thanks Meeeea (did I type enough e's?).
Horrifying stuff. Why would they even bother to vet (irony lost on the DNC) that George Lindemann scumbag? Isn't his criminal background sufficient make him fatally toxic?
Romney got pilloried in the press for putting his dog on the roof of his station wagon (in a dog carrier, let's be honest). Imagine what they'd do to Donald Trump if any connection to a horse-murdering fraudster like Lindemann could be made? The fact that the DNC would even contemplate using him as a donor/sponsor for even the time it took to draft that email speaks volumes about their confidence in the collusion of the press.
Can I ask a couple very basic questions here?
(1) Is there anybody in senior Democrat political circles who gets the need for computer security? The OPM hack occurred on Obama's watch, and the downloading of SF-86 data also occurred on Obama's watch. Then it turns out Hillary Clinton carelessly (make that "extremely carelessly" per James Comey) stored her official Secretary of State Email traffic on an unsecured computer. Now it turns out that DNC Email traffic was not encrypted and easily hacked. C'mon folks. If you want to play in the 21st century you'd best get with 21st technology.
(2) Is anyone besides me and Glenn Reynolds aware that Email messages are legal documents? Don't put anything in an Email you wouldn't put on a sheet of paper.
(3) I hope -- but rather doubt -- that the RNC is doing better at securing its electronic data.
And (4) has anyone ever been more perfectly named than Mook the Mook?
My mom used to get us to eat peas by saying millions of Chinese were starving, and they would love some peas.
Name Five!
That usually ended that lie.
"experts are telling us..."
Yup. Experts at lying.
"Clinton was terribly weak and could have been sidelined by any plausible, well funded primary opponent. The fix was in for Clinton, with Obamas blessing imho." My sense is that O wanted someone else, I was waiting for him to step in and anoint an alternative. But give the Clintons this, they got everybody else scared. They outmaneuvered even O.
Hill will still squeak through. But for cynics who otherwise should be crying for their country the current campaign at least will have significant entertainment value. The "Russians did it" is a classic. It 1. aggravates Hill's email problem: so if the Russians having this is bad, how much worse is them having your SoS emails? 2. aggravates Hill's reset problem: so if the Russians now want Trump, why were you so disastrously wrong about the possibility of a reset? 3. raises the question, why would the Russians want Trump if they have all this info on you and your minions that they can just exploit to humiliate you, weakening the US prez? 4. reminds us of Progs' touching faith in "experts," even unknown unnamed experts, the same sort of experts who assure us Iran is no threat, Common Core works, terrorism has nothing to do with Islam, and so on. And yeah, what's in the emails is more telling. As it was in the case of SoS emails--which showed Hill to be utterly clueless, behind the times, irrelevant to anything significant, out of the loop, the vacuous center of a grifters' posse.
October surprise alright, but October 2017. Blackmail, but quiet, calculated and useful, not the entertainment variety. The Russians and Chinese are not so consumed by cheap entertainment.
Props to Mook; he's a real pro. He handles the highly experienced media the same way I did with my kids when they were little. Distract and deflect. Worked every time - until they grew up.
Putin is part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.
@BIg Mike: "Is there anybody in senior Democrat political circles who gets the need for computer security?" Well, they "get" it, they just don't care. Why should they? Neither O nor Hill has faced any serious consequences for massive breaches. Their voters couldn't care less. The only reason the DNC hack matters is that it threatens to become politically inconvenient. Can't have that.
If you're going to Philadelphia.
Be sure to wear, some mayonnaise in your hair.
If you're going to Philadelphia
You're going to meet some Bernie people there.
With Obama leaving office, Schultz stepping down as spokesperson for the Clinton faction, and Sanders denied equal opportunity by the Party, the Pro-Choice Church may suffer an unrecoverable schism of its diverse sects.
Imagine what they'd do to Donald Trump if any connection to a horse-murdering fraudster like Lindemann could be made?
Sorry about the bad punctuation. I have no idea why I ended an imperative with a question mark.
...the Pro-Choice Church may suffer an unrecoverable schism of its diverse sects.
Let's hope for a Thirty Years War, complete with heretic burnings.
There is no conspiracy that the Twilighters do not overshadow.
This election brings out the passion and the fast typing and the non-proofreading in the best of us.
It's always darkest before the Don.
While you worry about Clinton being irresponsible with classified data, It might be prudent to review Manaforts ties to Putin.
With Donald Trump on the brink of receiving classified security briefings from the Central Intelligence Agency, U.S. foreign policy figures of both parties are raising concerns about a close Trump aide’s ties to allies of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
Trump’s top adviser, Paul Manafort, has spent much of his recent career working for pro-Russian forces in Ukraine, and doing complex deals for an oligarch with close ties to Putin. And while a Democratic senator has already charged Trump is not responsible enough to receive secret information, Manafort’s deep relationships with top pro-Russian figures raise special concerns.
Manafort may be best known for managing the 2010 campaign of Viktor Yanukovych, the Ukrainiant politician whose ouster as president prompted a Russian invasion of the country. He has, according to court documents, managed tens of millions of dollars for Oleg Deripaska, an oligarch denied entry to the U.S. reportedly for ties to organized crime, but so close to Vladimir Putin that top Russian officials fought (unsuccessfully) to get him a visa.
Gary Schmitt, a former Reagan Administration official now at the American Enterprise Institute, said he believed Manafort’s ties merit extra scrutiny.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/manafort-russia?utm_term=.ru8n4P6Gl#.mnKax34NV
Assume that it's true - Russia leaked the emails to try to get Trump elected.
What does that say about Clinton's tenure as SecState, that the Russians prefer Trump to her?
Oooh, A BuzzFeed piece from Ben Smith.
As for the National Enquirer, it should be clear by now, aided by these emails, that it is the most reliable, professional publication remaining in the US mass media, the gold standard of American journalism. The Weekly World News is a close second.
Anthony - We could go further; assume that it is true that the Russians leaked the emails to try to get Trump elected.
Even if true, the Russians leaked the emails. The Russians did not invent the emails. The Russians did not write the emails. Democrats wrote the emails. How much do they think they can get away with blaming the Russians?
What I want to know, however, is why just release the damning intraparty emails? If Wikileaks got the entire Dem oppo-research file on Trump, why not release that too? I'd like to see it, just to see what sort of work they did.
Putin's Puppet
If a Russian president could design a candidate to undermine American interests—and advance his own—he’d look a lot like Donald Trump.
On Wednesday, Donald Trump told the New York Times that he would not necessarily come to the aid of NATO states threatened by Russia and would make his decision to defend them from an attack after reviewing whether they “have fulfilled their obligations to us.” It was the latest statement from Trump that was likely greeted with delight in the Kremlin. Earlier this month, Franklin Foer wrote on the frightening ways in which Trump seems to be playing right into Vladimir Putin's plans for destabilizing the West.
Weren't the Koreans behind the Sony email scandal, right up until it turned out to be an inside job?
Daily mail (uk) is good too bit it's not a US publication.
Weaponizing intercepted messages should be a Russian skill. All of their weapons are the best made, and the still have a space program.
The Ukrane was stolen from a Russian allied government, and when the Russians took parts of Ukrane back, we have treated them as war criminals. They are outdoing us in nuclear weapons big time.
So why does Obama and Hillary want us at war with Russia? No one is that dumb. So it must be a way to destroy us one more time.
The Twilighters have a strange faith, transhuman traditions, and ulterior motives, but it remains to be seen if their opponents can discern the good, the bad, and the ugly.
As for Russia, Obama's removal of honest brokers from Iraq engendered creation of the Islamic State, followed by his and Clinton's progressive wars, opportunistic regimes changes, refugee crises, and other anti-native policies, are cause for concern to more than just the Russians, but for every civilized society, including in Europe, Israel, and America. If there is a conspiracy to expose the Pro-Choice Church including class diversity schemes, abortion rites, progressive debt, selective regime changes, reset of the cold war, etc., then it is global.
@Susan, dunno, but I'll wager Jarrett or Soros had more to do with this than Russia.
"Experts" tell us bad people oppose Hillary, says Mookie. I guess by "experts" Mookie means the FBI or the CIA. Did you meet them in a garage, Mookie? Did your "expert" source have a name like "Deeper Throat"?
Have the 27 year-olds running Hillary's campaign ever heard of Mark Felt? or Richard Nixon?
Honestly, Mookie - what do you think you are saying?
Meanwhile there's another Nothing-to-do-with-Islam suicide bombing in Germany.
BREAKING: At least one dead and 12 injured in suicide bomb attack at German wine bar
Anonymous said...
Putin's Puppet
If a Russian president could design a candidate to undermine American interests—and advance his own—he’d look a lot like Donald Trump.
On Wednesday, Donald Trump told the New York Times that he would not necessarily come to the aid of NATO states threatened by Russia and would make his decision to defend them from an attack after reviewing whether they “have fulfilled their obligations to us.” It was the latest statement from Trump that was likely greeted with delight in the Kremlin. Earlier this month, Franklin Foer wrote on the frightening ways in which Trump seems to be playing right into Vladimir Putin's plans for destabilizing the West."
Thats one way to look at it. Another, more realistic way is that after eight years of Obama the military no longer has the capabilities that it used to have. The implication from Trump is you guys need to beef up otherwise I will have a hard time justifying a US build up.
Way to confidently promote a candidate for #POTUS...
We get hacked by the Russians... Happens all the time... Vote for us!
Is like Watergate promoting the breaking in.
Am I missing something?
Are democrats adopting the Trump rule book?
Paul Manafort made a career out of stealthily reinventing the world’s nastiest tyrants as noble defenders of freedom. Getting Donald Trump elected will be a cinch.
His work necessarily entails secrecy. Although his client list has included chunks of the Fortune 500, he has also built a booming business working with dictators. As Roger Stone has boasted about their now-disbanded firm: “Black, Manafort, Stone, and Kelly, lined up most of the dictators of the world we could find. … Dictators are in the eye of the beholder.” Manafort had a special gift for changing how dictators are beheld by American eyes. He would recast them as noble heroes—venerated by Washington think tanks, deluged with money from Congress.
Playing tennis with Yanukovych at Mezhyhirya might have been the culmination of Manafort’s long career. He spent nearly seven years commuting to Kiev. Over that stretch, he remade Ukrainian politics and helped shift the country into Vladimir Putin’s sphere of influence. It was an impressive achievement, at least according to the ethical calculus that governs Manafort’s world. But then along came Donald Trump—another oligarch in desperate need of his services.
@Anonymous profile #07463996622493339961 (a new profile, by the way),
Did you just come on shift, or something?
After the Soviet Union fell, Western firms scrambled to get their business interests into the newly independent states created by its breakup. In that process, both political parties started to have increasingly deep ties to Russia, because, well, they were trying to bring them over to the Western way of doing things & make a buck in the process.
What it means is that now, there will always be Republicans or Democrats with ties to Russia. Remember that little detail of that uranium deal that Hillary had a hand in?
If you have evidence that Manafort has broken US law, post it. If not, chill. Besides anyone who's right hand (wo)man is Huma Abedin isn't in any position to complain about possible "foreign influence within the candidate's inner circle".
By the way, you posted a string of articles fairly quickly. That just you & google or are you just re-posted HRC/DNC talking points that were passed down to you?
Young Hegelian,
I'm a fast googler. Does this stuff pique your interest in the least? Do you not want to even entertain the notion that there may be something to be concerned about?
Anonymous said...
Paul Manafort made a career out of stealthily reinventing the world’s nastiest tyrants as noble defenders of freedom. Getting Donald Trump elected will be a cinch.
His work necessarily entails secrecy. Although his client list has included chunks of the Fortune 500, he has also built a booming business working with dictators. As Roger Stone has boasted about their now-disbanded firm: “Black, Manafort, Stone, and Kelly, lined up most of the dictators of the world we could find. … Dictators are in the eye of the beholder.” Manafort had a special gift for changing how dictators are beheld by American eyes. He would recast them as noble heroes—venerated by Washington think tanks, deluged with money from Congress.
Playing tennis with Yanukovych at Mezhyhirya might have been the culmination of Manafort’s long career. He spent nearly seven years commuting to Kiev. Over that stretch, he remade Ukrainian politics and helped shift the country into Vladimir Putin’s sphere of influence. It was an impressive achievement, at least according to the ethical calculus that governs Manafort’s world. But then along came Donald Trump—another oligarch in desperate need of his services.
7/24/16, 9:06 PM"
Same folks that donated to the Clinton Family Foundation. Now what were you saying?
You people can decide what to make of the stuff I posted. Do your own research also. Or don't. Don't be surprised to be hearing more about the Trump/ Manafort/ Putin connection in days and weeks to come. Often where there is smoke there is fire.
Trump donated to the Clinton Family Foundation also.
@Cubanbob,
Thats one way to look at it. Another, more realistic way is that after eight years of Obama the military no longer has the capabilities that it used to have. The implication from Trump is you guys need to beef up otherwise I will have a hard time justifying a US build up.
Notice that the lefty press assumes that Trump means to leave the Poles & Lithuanians in the lurch vis-a-vis the Russians. I don't see it that way. The Poles & Lithuanians are pulling their own weight.
But the others? When's the last time Germany spent anything more than a pittance of GDP on defense? In Holland, the military gets the weekends off & military discipline is so lax as to render them unfit for battle. The French have one aircraft carrier. When it was in for repairs that had to borrow one of ours so that their pilots could get in their regulation flight hours.
Most of Europe hasn't met the NATO minimum of 2% GDP on military spending for years & years. European governments needed more & more money for social programs. The European Left hated military spending. The path of least resistance was to cut military spending, & we were left holding the bag. Trump is right -- that has to change.
DNC sockpuppet:
Putin's Puppet
If a Russian president could design a candidate to undermine American interests—and advance his own—he’d look a lot like Donald Trump.
It ought to start the wheels turning in even the dullest of "conservative" minds, that the talking points of DNC shills are indistinguishable from those of neo-cons.
Trump’s sympathy for Putin has not been a secret.
Putin Returns Trump's Effusive Praise
I am not suggesting that Donald Trump is employed by Putin—though his campaign manager, Paul Manafort, was for many years on the payroll of the Putin-backed former president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych I am arguing that Trump’s understanding of America’s role in the world aligns with Russia’s geostrategic interests; that his critique of American democracy is in accord with the Kremlin’s critique of American democracy; and that he shares numerous ideological and dispositional proclivities with Putin—for one thing, an obsession with the sort of “strength” often associated with dictators. Trump is making it clear that, as president, he would allow Russia to advance its hegemonic interests across Europe and the Middle East. His election would immediately trigger a wave of global instability—much worse than anything we are seeing today—because America’s allies understand that Trump would likely dismantle the post-World War II U.S.-created international order. Many of these countries, feeling abandoned, would likely pursue nuclear weapons programs on their own, leading to a nightmare of proliferation.
LOL, the last thing Hillary wants in the news is more email problems.
Also, Bernie supporters were out demonstrating against Hillary today:
A large, impassioned crowd of Bernie Sanders supporters — chanting “Hell, no, D.N.C., we won’t vote for Hillary” — marched on Sunday afternoon to the site of the Democratic National Convention, promising a week in which the party’s divisions will be on vivid display in the streets.
Looks like they're not too happy with having incompetent, corrupt Hillary shoved down their throats.
"I'm a fast googler. Does this stuff pique your interest in the least? Do you not want to even entertain the notion that there may be something to be concerned about?"
Did he take millions in bribes from them? What? That was Hillary? What the....?!
Cut and paste trolls get laughed out of the room here. If you have a case to make, make it in your own words.
You people can decide what to make of the stuff I posted. Do your own research also. Or don't. Don't be surprised to be hearing more about the Trump/ Manafort/ Putin connection in days and weeks to come. Often where there is smoke there is fire.
I hope you don't mind if I file the stuff you posted with the reports I hear about Barack Obama plotting to foment riots in Philadelphia so he can declare martial law across the whole of the United States, suspend the elections, and become dictator for life.
@Anonymous profile #07463996622493339961
Does this stuff pique your interest in the least? Do you not want to even entertain the notion that there may be something to be concerned about?
Oh, yes, I'm concerned about Russia's Putin. But, as I stated, Russian influence is now bi-partisan in the US. You think, e.g. anti-fracking forces don't get Russian support?
And, by the way, you want pro-Putin folks? Take a look at any hard left website. The Western Left is somehow, strangely, incredibly pro-Putin. The Left is now bitching now that we have troops in Poland that "No wonder Russia is pissed. How would we feel if the Russians had troops in Canada or Mexico?" "Well, we'd deserve Russian troops in Canada & Mexico if we fucking invaded Quebec & took it over, & those governments asked for Russian troops, huh?".
I'm a fast googler.
Somehow, I doubt that.
DOES DONALD TRUMP HAVE A SUBVERSIVE PARTNERSHIP WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN’S PROPAGANDA MACHINE?
Updated | The opponent wields a “firehose of falsehood” with “a shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions.” He “entertains, confuses and overwhelms the audience” with exaggerations and unfounded rumors. His technique is entirely new, confounding decades of conventional wisdom that says effective political messages should stay close to the truth.
Donald Trump? No, Vladimir Putin, who has piloted “a remarkable evolution in Russia's approach to propaganda,” according to a new study from RAND, a think tank based in Santa Monica, California, which has been supplying the Pentagon and CIA with ideas since 1948. Despite ignoring past principles of propaganda, RAND says, Putin has “enjoyed some success” in his main goal: undermining Western unity, and specifically its military alliance, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO.
His success stories: The rise of Moscow-backed right-wing “populist” movements in Europe, along with Western disunity over Ukraine, Turkey, Syria and how to deal with Syrian refugees. And now Donald Trump?
@Big Mike,
I hope you don't mind if I file the stuff you posted with the reports I hear about Barack Obama plotting to foment riots in Philadelphia so he can declare martial law across the whole of the United States, suspend the elections, and become dictator for life.
Goddammit, Mike, can't you keep a secret at all? Buddy, you can't be one of the New World Order if the Big Guys can't trust you to keep a cork in it. Know what I be sayin' here?
"Trump donated to the Clinton Family Foundation also."
Exactly. Pay to play. You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you son?
Manaforts, work necessarily involves secrecy...
Well then it's a cinch he won't be working for HilLary
Young Hegelian,
Anyone can find this stuff within minutes. Use the search term "Trump helps Putin NATO."
@Anonymous profile #07463996622493339961,
You wanna talk to us here, buddy, or do you just want to play at being a Left-wing news feed service?
Don't give us that "Doesn't it worry you" bullshit. The Dems are the assholes running HRC, who never met a moral dictum she couldn't breach.
So Trump holds no guilt in any pay to play scheme? I'm not defending Clinton here. Both parties who are involved in pay to play need to be held to account.
Now if I was employed by the DNC, that would've gotten me fired.
Anyone can find this stuff within minutes. Use the search term "monkeys flying out of the Leftist Fever Swamp's ass".
Interesting...Greece..of all the countries..is #2.
"The U.S. also spends the highest proportion of its GDP on defense: 3.62%. The second biggest NATO spender in proportional terms is Greece, at 2.46%, according to NATO.
Of the 28 countries in the alliance, only five -- the U.S., Greece, Poland, Estonia and the U.K. -- meet the target.
The rest lag behind. Germany spent 1.18% of its GDP on defense last year, France forked out 1.8%.
Iceland, which doesn't have its own army, spends just 0.1% of its GDP on defense, according to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development.
Six other countries spend less than 1%, according to NATO: the Czech Republic, Italy, Slovenia, Belgium, Spain and Hungary."
@Anonymous profile #07463996622493339961,
Use the search term "Trump helps Putin NATO.
And you came up with those search terms all on your own. Just like it was a coincidence that you knew that all those lefty sites would be grinding this shit out to try & save HRC's bacon late on a Sunday evening.
The Dems are staring defeat in the face, & the thought of President Trump makes the coastals blow a gasket. All the stops are being pulled out now in the hopes of keeping the Democratic ship from hitting the iceberg right before the convention that was supposed to be the Triumph of Democratic Unity.
I am pretty sure it wasn't the Russians. Harry Reid confirmed that the word on the street is the North Koreans are behind it because Hillary stole the Supreme Leaders look with her pantsuits. Nothing Pisses off the North Koreans like cultural appropriation.
Donna Brazile on Anderson Cooper - that more emails are coming. They took the whole email databank of the staff - her words.
How hard is it to use search terms? Are you people here not too bright? Eh, whatever, I did the work for you, now do with it what you will. I don't support Clinton or Trump. Wake up and smell he coffee.
Hey..this just might make the DNC in Philly worth watching..just to see the normally smug Wasserscheis under the heat lamps...like a carrot topped cheesesteak.
Anonymous- go cash your Clinton check
"Now if I was employed by the DNC, that would've gotten me fired."
Bollocks. Not one of you trolls has attempted to make a positive case for Hillary...for obvious reasons. It's all cut and paste crap and vacuous one liners attacking Trump. They're not getting their money's worth from you, son. OTOH, since you're an apolitical 20-year old being fed links and talking points to post on here, because you couldn't get a real job in Obama's shitty economy, I have great sympathy for you. But really, spinning a furniture store sign on a street corner would have more dignity.
Yes, you people are not too bright.
@Buwaya,
They took the whole email databank of the staff
Any email leak other than from a single user involves everybody. Microsoft's Exchange email server uses MS SQL Server databases as its data stores.
What the hackers took were the SQL Server database files. Well, actually, what they almost certainly did is "dumped" the database files, & then copied the dumps out & deleted them from the server. The dumps are easier to transport & are integral "snapshots" of the data.
@@Anonymous profile #07463996622493339961,
Yes, you people are not too bright.
If we're all assholes, nothing's keeping you from leaving & hanging out with the kewl kidz at DailyKos, ya know.
"Yes, you people are not too bright."
And you just lost this game.
Concern Troll is Concerned. Google it!
E'rbody knows everything you read on the interwebs is true, especially about Trump.
Shhhhh! you don't want Althouse to yell at you for using the word Tr*ll, I've already had a talking-to , You may be next!
It's a free country, The Tr*lls are NOT ruining this forum, you are delusional.
Why in the world would Putin prefer Trump to Hillary?
He walked all over Hillary.
Anonymous said...
DOES ANONYMOUS HAVE A SUBVERSIVE PARTNERSHIP WITH HILLARY CLINTON'S PROPAGANDA MACHINE?
FIFY | The opponent wields a “firehose of falsehood” with “a shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions.” S/H/Xe “entertains, confuses and overwhelms the audience” with exaggerations and unfounded rumors.
By Jove, I think xe's got it!
The pity is that if a semi legit lefty like say R&B or Cook piped this in, I might at least look at the link to see what he was taking out of context, etc. But you don't exist.
Incidentally, semi legit lefties seem to be staying away from this stuff in droves, which in itself is striking.
One wonders why Tapper doesn't ask the obvious follow up, "What experts? Who are they? What are their names?"
Can't ask that one.
Thenk yew very much Anonymous profile #07463996622493339961. Now let's give it a big round of applause.
Next up, a guy who spins 6 dinner plates on the end of a stick. Followed by Topo Gigio the talking mouse. But first a word from our sponsor tonight, ExLax...
Wait until you find out how many "journalists" are party hacks. (D)hacks.
@Jon,
Followed by Topo Gigio the talking mouse
"Geeve us a beeg keees, Eddie".
JE, you're older than I thought you were if you remember that stuff.
Yeah, I'm old, just immature/young at heart. :)
The exact same cohort as our hostess as a matter of fact.
I REALLY do want learn more about how the Russians hacked the DNC, but (what was the term Comey used?, unsophisticatd?)Hillary was able to keep her home-brew server inviolate.
"MOOK: Well, this isn't my assertion. There are a number of experts that are asserting this."
Has anyone done "Top. Men." yet?
The "wikileaks is a Russian front" trope is proving very useful, considering that the allegations have never actually been proven in any meaningful way.
It's basically the Red Scare updated for the Internet.
I'm confused, how do we know days after the DNC Leaks that it was Russia, but we still can't figure out if Hillary's private server was ever hacked?
Where's the third shift?
The 1980's called.They want their foreign policy/conspiracy back..
"I'm confused, how do we know days after the DNC Leaks that it was Russia, but we still can't figure out if Hillary's private server was ever hacked?"
I'm betting this ill-considered charge quietly goes away. But they are brazen. so you never know.
Browsing through the DNC email dump, it is remarkable to see how the DNC closely coordinates their talking points with their surrogates.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7722
"...Working with the DSCC, we placed a story in The Washington Post announcing the lawsuit on April 14, and published a Medium post from DNC CEO Amy Dacey on why we were filing suit. The initial roll out generated well over 100 earned media mentions. Among our most prominent placements: CNN, MSNBC, The New York Times, U.S. News & World Report, Politico, AP, Reuters, The Guardian, and The Nation..."
"... Draft op-eds for Native American leaders
Draft an op-ed for the Arizona Informant...
Submit an op-ed to Univision.com from our national Hispanic surrogate calling for an immediate need to move the case forward..."
Many have long suspected that the DNC coordinated with the MSM and outside other groups to push their talking points, but it’s still amazing to see how how deeply coordinated it all actually is (The Washington Post, Univision, MSNBC, Indian American groups, Hispanic groups, social media, etc)
There have been complaints about H picking a non-minority, and talk for weeks about ousting DWS.
Then bam, email leak, (none of them are really that bad or incriminating) and DWS out, black woman in, H gets some love from the MSM to spread a falsehood that it is a Putin/Trump conspiracy, and all is well in dem-dem land.
They (MSM) also just released this: "DNC to make history by having first transgendered speaker." Wow, now that's history, man.
"I saw it on the internet".
Good Lord! That is right out of the Trump playbook. How the HELL did we end up with such,pardon my language, SHITY, candidates????
My guess is there is no third shift tonight, the second shift blew this evening's whole wad and now we get to commiserate with ourselves about all that "fast googling" LOL
His name is "Robby *the* Mook", not "Robby Mook".
So their contention is that the Russians hacked the DNC's at-least-somewhat-secure email server but did not hack Hillary's wide open server. Right.
So shiloh, Mr. Balls, Cookie, peanut butter and jelly, all have nothing to say tonight. Wow. All ready for the big dnc extravaganza. Maybe they work. Pffffft. Who am I kidding!
What about the "Russian Reset"? Didn't Hillary say that we were all friends, now?
Maybe if Hillary had actually been a good Secretary of State, instead of a hack doing a hackish job, we wouldn't have to worry about the demise of NATO. The Soviet Union has been gone for a quarter century.
Oh goody, more about to be leaked. See GATEWAYPUNDIT.com
Meanwhile, per WikiLeaks themselves this evening via Tweet:
"Clinton campaign pushing lame smear that we are Russian agents. Last time we were Mossad. Get it right. https://archive.is/4sg1J "
DNC to make history by having first transgendered speaker.
So the DNC has invited a nutcase to address the Convention. This is history? Au contraire, this is routine.
@meeeea
www.thegatewaypundit.com wors much better!
ROTFL! Twitter is great for night Owls!:
Keith Olbermann @KeithOlnerman [said]
You boys retweeted Coulter? Took marching orders from a dictator? You've jumped the shark, @wikileaks. Let's see who we can get to hack you"
[a reply] @KeithOlnerman So much projection your head must hurt.
Whadda dweebish statement. "
Anonymous wrote: Wake up and smell he coffee. [sic]
Anonymous is a woman in her 60's. That turn of phrase tells us you're a bit past the sell-by date, my dear.
ah keefum's msnbc was bin laden's favorite station till they forced him out, then he preferred al jazeera,
Quaestor said...Anonymous is a woman in her 60's...past the sell-by date
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Yayy! Ageism from the right. Awesome.
Wife just back from trip to Carson City, won $250 on a penny machine. All electronic, just use your fingertips.
She somehow set up 20 pennies and hit a X5 button and, well, that's the story. I'll need to donate a few pairs of underwear for the writeoff. :)
trolls have been mostly wrapped in wire today,
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/24/washington-post-juliet-eilperin-dnc/
that's some expensive underwear,
@Quaestor: Been running them through a few analysis programs, or just using your head?
in other news of little import,
https://twitter.com/MaxAbrahms/status/757413988237967360
that was in this context,
http://observer.com/2016/07/lack-of-faith-in-merkel-spreads-with-bavarias-bloody-week-of-mayhem/
there's also this,
http://www.wsj.com/articles/another-iranian-american-arrested-in-iran-1469380957
True, Narcisio. 12 injured in Germany when a 27 year old Syrian Refugee did a suicide bombing at a music festival.
Nothing to see here, move along, the deceased bomber's motive was 'uncertain'. Any bets on religion and social media/web browsing habits?
the munich police chief thinks amish, actually he doesn't care about the facts, the shooter may actually be Syrian Turkish, not Iranian,
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