The OED defines "democratical" to mean the same thing as "democratic," and it gives some usage examples going back to 1589 and continuing only to 1850:
1589 ‘M. Marprelate’ Hay any Worke for Cooper 26 It is Monarchicall, in regarde of our head Christ, Aristocraticall in the Eldership, and Democraticall in the people.There are also a 3 examples of "democratical" as a noun, defined to mean the same thing as "democrat." 2 of these are by Thomas Hobbes:
1608 D. Tuvil Ess. Polit. & Morall f. 4v, Ostracismes practiced in those Democraticall and Popular states of elder times.
1686 in Coll. Scarce & Valuable Tracts (1748) I. 111 The Democratical Man, that is never quiet under any Government.
1791 J. Boswell Life Johnson anno 1775 I. 460, I abhor his Whiggish democratical notions and propensities.
1850 G. Grote Hist. Greece VIII. ii. lxiv. 231 The levy was in fact as democratical and as equalising as..on that memorable occasion.
1651 T. Hobbes Leviathan ii. xxii. 122 Aristocraticalls and Democraticalls of old time in Greece.What, you may ask, is the "-al" ending doing after the "-ic" ending? When do suffixes double up like that? This seems related to the present-day controversy about using the word "Democrat" as an adjective, when GOP types refer to the "Democrat Party," instead of the "Democratic Party." There's an insult perceived in leaving off the "-ic" ending, but, oddly, in the case of "democratical," there's insult in adding more letters — "-ic" plus "-al."
1679 T. Hobbes Behemoth i, in Wks. VI. 199 The thing which those democraticals chiefly then aimed at, was to force the King to call a parliament.
Does "-al" have any meaning? "Forming adjectives with the sense ‘of or relating to that which is denoted by the first element'" is the OED definition, which seems to say, it's just a way to turn something into an adjective. But that doesn't explain "-ical." The "-ic" already made the adjective. What's up with "-ical"? What are the other "-ical" words? Comical, radical... logical...
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When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful, a miracle, it was beautiful, magicalAm I thinking too logical? So... musical interlude over. What does "-ic" mean? It's just another ending used to make an adjective and means "in the manner of" or "pertaining to" or some such generic way to say what differentiates an adjective from a noun. So what's with the suffix pile-up in the "-ical" words? Wonderfully, magically, the OED has an entry for "-ical":
And all the birds in the trees, well they'd be singing so happily, joyfully, playfully, watching me
But then they send me away to teach me how to be sensible, logical, responsible, practical
And they showed me a world where I could be so dependable, clinical, intellectual, cynical...
I said now, watch what you say, now we're calling you a radical, a liberal, fanatical, criminal
Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're acceptable, respectable, presentable, a vegetable...
But I'm thinking so logical ...
Sometimes forming an adjective from a noun in -ic, as music, musical, but more frequently a secondary adjective, as comic, comical, historic, historical. Its origin appears to have been the formation in late Latin of adjectives in -ālis on nouns in -ic-us, or in -icē, e.g. grammatic-us grammarian, grammaticē grammar, grammatic~āl-is grammatical, clēricus clergyman, clerk, clēricāl-is clerical. So in medieval Latin, chīrurgicāl-is, dominic-āl-is, medicāl-is, mūsicāl-is, physicāl-is. In French, adjectives of this type are few, and mostly taken directly from Latin formations, as chirurgical, clérical, grammatical, médical, etc. But in English they are exceedingly numerous, existing not only in all cases in which the term in -ic is a noun, but also as the direct representatives of Latin adjectives in -icus, French -ique. Thus we find before 1500 canonical, chirurgical, domestical, musical, philosophical, physical. Many adjectives have a form both in -ic and -ical, and in such cases that in -ical is usually the earlier and that more used. Often also the form in -ic is restricted to the sense ‘of’ or ‘of the nature of’ the subject in question, while that in -ical has wider or more transferred senses, including that of ‘practically connected’ or ‘dealing with’ the subject. Cf. ‘economic science’, ‘an economical wife’, ‘prophetic words’, ‘prophetical studies’, ‘a comic song’, ‘a comical incident’, ‘the tragic muse’, ‘his tragical fate’. A historic book is one mentioned or famous in history, a historical treatise contains or deals with history. But in many cases this distinction is, from the nature of the subject, difficult to maintain, or entirely inappreciable.That's long and complicated, though interesting as hell, but I boldfaced the bit that's most useful to understand what John Adams and Thomas Hobbes were getting at. It might be helpful to consider what it would mean to say: This political movement is not democratic. It's democratical. My sense is that democratic would refer to the principle that each person to be governed ought to vote. Democratical nudges us to worry about the chaos and disorder of attempting to let everyone decide everything.
Adjectives of locality, nationality, and language, as Baltic, Arabic, Teutonic, and those of chemical and other technical nomenclature, as oxalic, ferric, pelagic, dactylic, hypnotic, megalithic, have usually no secondary form in -al.
This brings us back to why Democrats prefer the adjective "Democratic" (rather than to have the noun "Democrat" used in the combination "Democratic Party"). Presumably, they want to appear to be imbued with democratic values, rather than simply to be a party composed of Democrats.
A "Democrat" is, in the U.S. political sense, "A member of the Democratic party," as defined in the OED, beginning with this choice 1798 quote from none other than George Washington: "You could as soon scrub the blackamore white as change the principle of a profest Democrat."
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What about the suffix "-ous"?
You can reaarange the letters in democratical to spell "REDCOAT CLAIM"!
Perhaps Democratist?
Crab Lineup is an anagram for Republican.
Electric and electrical.
This seems related to the present-day controversy about using the word "Democrat" as an adjective, when GOP types refer to the "Democrat Party," instead of the "Democratic Party." There's an insult perceived in leaving off the "-ic" ending...
I've encountered liberals who go nuts over anyone saying, "Democrat Party." I've never quite gotten this. Years later I noticed that Rush Limbaugh is always careful to say, "Democrat Party," and I wondered if that's the salt in the wound. If that's the case, there is no chance Limbaugh will ever say anything else.
To my mind "Democrat Party" makes more sense, because the party isn't particularly dedicated to being democratic, so much as it composed of members who call themselves Democrats based on a long historical story.
In chemistry, the -ic suffix denotes a greater degree of -ous.
I just say Demorat.
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We can rule out "Democratronic," since they have no logic circuits.
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"This brings us back to why Democrats prefer the adjective "Democratic" (rather than to have the noun "Democrat" used in the combination "Democratic Party"). Presumably, they want to appear to be imbued with democratic values, rather than simply to be a party composed of Democrats."
Great decoy!
It is the Republicans who have wished to change the name of the Democratic Party. They are the ones who insist on calling it the "Democrat Party." It is not a new desire on the part of today's Democrats to wish to appear more democratic than they actually are. You will have to do some real research to find out what you say you are looking for.
Because the boring reason today's Democrats call themselves members of the Democratic Party is that this is the actual name of the party.
There is nothing democratic about a democrat. That's democratical.
Democratical slur was like saying someone was from the wrong side of the tracks.
The democratical Roundheads beat the aristocratic Cavaliers in England once, but the lusty English wanted their King back as soon as Cromwell died.
In the New World experience we just never needed lusty aristocrats. We had our attorneys instead.
And once Tommy Jefferson and Jimmy Madison finished our revolution and Constitution the days of Anglican/English Aristocracy was forever gone.
And then Abe Lincoln and his GOP guys made it permanent that no man owns another man's labor or entailed serfdom
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225 years ago a democrat meant a panderer to the masses.
Still does.
That's why Democrats don't like to hear Democrat Party.
Of course, you have Republicans in the republican Party, Communists in the Communist Party, Libertarians in the Libertarian Party, and even Greens in the Green Party, but there are no Democratics in the Democratic Party.
Democrats (Democratics?) don't seem to have figured out that taking extreme offense at a trivial variation on their chosen name just makes non-Democrats want to tease them by using it over and over again.
A friend of mine went to a huge public high school in the Midwest some years ago. One of her classmates was named Jean. On the first day of the school year, she tried to tell half a dozen fellow freshmen not to say "Hi, Jean!" (apparently because it sounds like 'hygiene' as in feminine hygiene), but to address her with "Hello, Jean". Of course, word spread quickly and within 24 hours the 2000 other students were all saying "Hi, Jean!" and "HiJean!" and "HiJean HiJean HiJean!" to her all day long.
"that it must produce confusion and every evil work."
Sounds like the Democrats to me.
Funny, but I think most folks who say "archetypal" also say "prototypical."
It's analogous to the selective use of abortion, Roe vs Wade, and reproductive rights. It's semantic shifts in order to accommodate individual perceptions and sensitivities. It is typically used in euphemisms to obfuscate the issue.
For example, democracy is the subordination of the minority to the majority's will. However, practically, it is processed by a minority interest through exploitation of democratic (i.e. numerical) leverage. The same thing happened with progress, and progressive, which are ambiguous until qualified.
As with religion, and other faiths, ideology should be judged by the principles it engenders.
As with emotional appeals, semantic games are routinely exploited to extort concessions.
I note some other occurrences of terminal "cal" that have dropped out of use:
"fantastical" (more common than "fantastic" till the mid-1700s)
"academical" (more common than "academic" till about 1880)
"ironical" (displaced since 1880 by "ironic", which was previously unknown)
If there's a subtle insult in adding -al to the term...why stop there? As "gutless" suggested above, but didn't take it far enough, I'm going to go with: Democraticalist; you know, practitioners of Democraticalism. The worst kind of Democrats.
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