I'm reading "Trump signs order renaming Lake Ontario as Lake America, escalating Canada feud/President Donald Trump called Canadian officials 'nasty people' and said the country 'has been ripping us off for a long time on trade, very sadly.'"
“We filed all the necessary papers, documents, everything else,” Trump said. “We notified all the various people that we have to notify. So we’ve done everything that you have to do. And this is official, effective immediately.”
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I somehow think this is "less offensive" that what we tried in the Revolutionary and War of 1812....
Regardless of what Trump says or does, they will always be the Gulf of Mexico and Lake Ontario to me.
why? this is dumb.
Per Grok, five U.S. states have well-known incorporated places named Ontario --
California
Oregon
Ohio
Wisconsin
New York
Indisputable G.O.A.T: Greatest Of All Trolls.
Now if we could just die the whole thing gold.
This seems crazy to the rest of us, because we have never been the prime alpha, the top dog, the swinging dong in the kingdom. Trump has been that his whole life and reminding people of it, especially adversaries, is a main part of the script for that character. You have to play it convincingly.
If they want to, I guess Canada could decide to rename the United States to the "Confederate States of Canada". I don't think we can stop them.
Au contraire - if anything it should be changed to Lake New York.
Le lac America, it will be known as.
Consider Leftie noses tweaked.
It's a native American name and this will just make more people hate him.
Waste of time. Like we need MORE leftist hate?
No no. Change it to Katarokwi - the Indian name. Or spell it right. Its Ontarí'io
Another massive troll by Trump. I'm going to miss him when he's gone.
"It's a native American name and this will just make more people hate him."
Nobody is going to think "I like what Trump's done up to now, but this is just too much. Now I hate him."
While were at it, lets just drop the "North" from "North America".
Ontario: " Common translations are “beautiful lake,” “great lake,” “sparkling water,” or “lake of shining waters.”
Indigenous peoples who lived around the lake used versions of this name long before Europeans arrived. The first European known to have seen the lake was Étienne Brûlé in 1615. French explorers and mapmakers began using “Ontario” for the lake by 1641; it appears on maps by 1656. They also tried other names (Lac Frontenac, Lac St. Louis), but the Indigenous name is the one that lasted. ~ Grok
To really piss off the bien pensants he could name it Lake Calhoun (Minneapolis reference).
Now that he's won the war he can turn his brilliant mind to more important things.
In a related E.O., Trump has named himself as Chief of all Indigenous peoples in the Americas, so it is still an Indigenous name.
"If they want to, I guess Canada could decide to rename the United States to the "Confederate States of Canada". I don't think we can stop them"
I'm told the Canadian government is giving serious consideration to renaming Manhattan "Epstein Island". Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Trolling is often annoying.
"Trump has named himself as Chief of all Indigenous peoples."
I wish. That would be worth our time.
Many people say THE American side of the once Niagara Falls is going to be called EPSTEIN FALLS. A tariff for a tariff! beautiful. Children in the playpen...
"Consider Leftie noses tweaked."
The left is okay with enabling voting fraud, stealing tax dollars intended for the poor, killing unborn babies, letting violent criminals out of jail, preventing illegal alien rapists and murderers from being deported and assassinating their political opponents but renaming a lake is a bridge too far?
It's funny what sets them off, don't you think?
Did Trump Mail In delivery of signed and sealed paperwork or hand over in person?
Someone named rhe continent "North America", an American trilogy, united in states.
I would like to rename Lake Michigan to "Lake Taqiyya". It's has a pretty sound. It sounds like mermaids riding a unicorn playin flutes.
People who clutch their pearls over Trump's "Vulgarity" and "Trolling" are the same losers who gave Romney and McCain. And would have given us DeSantis and Yeb! if they'd had their way.
Good losers. But Still losers.
BTW, Rod Dreher is still doing this. Whenever he's given a chance he's still attacking trump's "character" or actions. He wants signal "Dont think I'm one of those icky MAGA types. I'm a reasonable conservative".
He alternates that with moaning about how Nazis are on the march and how terrible the DSA is.
“Au contraire - if anything it should be changed to Lake New York”
Lake Empire (but unfortunately I was not consulted.)
It seems that at least one of them should be called "Lake Inferior".
HAMES doesn’t work as well. Perhaps SHAME?
Whatever you do, don’t dead name it.
"Lake Empire (but unfortunately I was not consulted.)"
Not Lake Constitutional Republic?
I never cease to be amused by the outrage he creates from all the usual suspects.
You do know you don't have to swing at every pitch, right?
If we are going to get out of our $40 trillion of national debt, Trump is just the President to do that and he may be trying to provoke a war with Canada.to that end.
Canada declares war over Lake America. We surrender unconditionally. Canada makes America a Province, the Canadian Dollar our currency, and our debt goes the way of Confederate bonds.
He may be wild and pissing people off for nothing, but when I think back to McCain and Romney being our alternatives to corruption, I'll take this any day. They were both just Obama in A Whiter Shade of Pale.
Lake America is equitable and inclusive without the legacy of cultural appropriation hanging over native Americans of both national jurisdictions.
"You do know you don't have to swing at every pitch, right?"
But they do. If they don't, even more demented leftards will turn on them for not speaking up.
J.H. at Powerline has gotten his panties in a bunch over this, so it's official- renaming the lake was the right thing to do.
If North Korea can call themselves a Democratic People's Republic. We can call lakes whatever we want. At least "Lake America" isn't wildly inaccurate, and the "Gulf of America" makes more sense the the "Gulf of Mexico".
I don't expect either to stick long term, even if Trump brings world peace, the golden age of humanity, and flying cars.
"You do know you don't have to swing at every pitch, right?"
But if they do, you can't resist throwing some wild ones over their heads just to watch them swing anyway.
This seems crazy until you take a quick look at what the Dems are up to lately. "I promise to do nothing worse than rename stuff for nothing" is back to normality by comparison.
>bagoh20 said...
Indisputable G.O.A.T: Greatest Of All Trolls.<
Remind me again why it is important for a President of the United States to troll?
This now becomes Liberation Day for the millions of Ontarians who have been, for generations, eager to proudly self-identify as AMERICANS.
Ontario
Canadian province, also one of the Great Lakes between Canada and New York, from Mohawk (Iroquoian) ontari:io "beautiful lake" or "great lake," from /-qtar-/ "lake, river." Related: Ontarian.
- etymonline.com
Intersectional geography? Is a double-edged scalpel.
I don't know that it's so much "important" as it is a break from listening the left going on and on about the stuff they they want to do. You know- like sexually mutilating the children they aren't able to kill before they're born, for starters.
Interesting fact. The lake was originally named by settlers before the province of Ontario became Ontario. The province was actually named after the lake. The name has its origins in indigenous culture.
Meanwhile Canada renames Niagara Falls as "America Falls".
🚨 Carney renames waterway border with U.S. the Strait of Our Moose.
Canada wants to import the Chinese army, Muslim terrorists, kill Christians, kill all their old people and more. They hate freedom and want to be a communist dictatorship. I'm not sure why anyone beside leftists who want all of those exact same goals would be upset.
From Copilot AI ... "The name Lake Ontario comes from Indigenous languages of the region, specifically Wendat (Huron) and related Iroquoian peoples. The term appears in several closely related forms — Ontarí’io, ontarí:io, and oniatarí:io — all predating European contact by centuries."
It's a gay excursion through the intersectional straits of semantic prose. #LoveTrumpsHate #HateLovesAbortion QED
If you're Trump, you gotta go for what is achievable.
Bankrupting America and renaming lakes is about all he's got, and you all dance around to the tune he plays like he won the Super Bowl.
I laughed.
Approved Trolling. Level: Greatest.
The indigenous had no concept of land ownership but naming rights are important to them?
Ok then.
Mason G said...
J.H. at Powerline has gotten his panties in a bunch over this, so it's official- renaming the lake was the right thing to do.
The Desantis wing of the democrat party is all wee weed up.
They are such stupid losers it is hard to tell if they are democrats or not. They keep trying to put Democrats in power every chance they get.
and then Achilles shows up - to bring the stupid.
I like Gulf of America. That just works. This one falls flat.
…’ridicule is man’s most potent weapon’ AND ‘a good tactic is one your people enjoy’…
Ontario is most probably a 4th conjugation Latin verb.
What's the Indian word for 'Trade War'?
Can’t go along with this, completely screws up “Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.”
Will this work?
Democrats expect that Trump will rename the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool when repairs are finally completed. A popular suggested name is the Straight of Warm Ooze.
The province was actually named after the lake. ....
So Trump is poking his nose under......
'...The Ojibwe language does not have a direct translation for "Trade War," but you can break it down into components. "Trade" can be translated as "gikinoo'amaadiwin," and "war" can be translated as "biinagwiiyaang."....'
We're gonna need a bigger alphabet.
Yes we can
“Justabill said...
Can’t go along with this, completely screws up “Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.”“
They both have four syllables.
Doesn’t rhyme.
"Remind me again why it is important for a President of the United States to troll?"
Nobody ever said it was, but it does mean he's at least awake unlike the previous 4 years. Tell me why it's important for a President to be half black, because that was all the qualifications the last 2 term President had.
"Tell me why it's important for a President to be half black..."
Because the people who pat themselves on the back for their enlightened views on race don't get to feel superior if they vote for a white candidate.
"closely related forms — Ontarí’io, ontarí:io, and oniatarí:io — all predating European contact by centuries."
How would we know what they called it centuries before anyone there could write? Sure, a guy hundreds of years later tells you that, but it's pure faith that he knew what they called it hundreds of years before. He might of made it up right there. Trolling goes goes way back.
How about "Lake Foolish President"?
Native, indigenous et cetera does not necessarily imply original. In fact, in the case of native Americans, it does not. They are some subsequent wave of colonists. . Good point, bagoh20.
Trump is claiming America, North, Central, and South, for Americans, placing Americans first.
** bagoh20 said...If they want to, I guess Canada could decide to rename the United States to the "Confederate States of Canada". I don't think we can stop them.**
Trump can, and should, rename Canada “Turtle Island.” Now THAT would be a master troll.
Here in Ohio, there used to be a chain of department stores called Ontario. The name was discontinued when they were bought by Rink’s. When Rink’s went under, the local locations were used as local flea markets for a time.
Ask a Frenchman and an Englishman what the name is of the body of water that separates their two countries.
If you insist on calling it Lake Ontario, you’re just deadnaming it.
Local businesses here are getting pilloried. They fly Canadian flags to say “It’s not my idea.” But the Canadians simply aren’t coming. I go to Canada sometimes, several times a summer, and people treat me okay, but I wonder about the next time.
This isn’t conservative.
At least he didn’t name it Lake Israel.
I wonder if Trump is going to impose tariffs on the Canadian hydropower that runs most of New England and New York?
I wonder if Trump is going to impose tariffs on the Canadian hydropower that runs most of New England and New York?
HOMES is easy to remember. HAMES isn't.
This is stupid. But there's a big fat hairy precedent for political renaming. The American Ornithological Society has decided that all bird names based on a person must be changed to something lik color and location. This is because most of those names are names of white men. And white men, in the words of John Lennon, are the ni**ers of the world.
Don’t Republicans have a Senate race in Maine coming up? Picking a fight with Canada is not going to please many Mainers.
Dumb, dumb, dumb. More self-inflicted wounds:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2026/08/dumb-dumb-dumb.php
Peachy+2 said...
Trolling is often annoying.
Unless it's about Canada.
I find this renaming absolutely hysterical. The way it's made my fellow theater kids melt down on social media into screaming crying fits is absolutely hysterical.
Well, when the left started renaming things...this is what you get.
"Do you want ants?! Because this is how you get ants!"
Jaq said...
Don’t Republicans have a Senate race in Maine coming up? Picking a fight with Canada is not going to please many Mainers.
WGAF
Tell me are Mainers more or less inbread than you lot in maple syrup land?
If this thread has taught us anything it's that there isn't enough money in circulation to buy some of you guys a sense of humor.
Lawnerd said...
“At least he didn’t name it Lake Israel.”
Lake Israel? Or Israel Lake?
My Canadian friend, a graduate of the Canadian version of West Point, tells me that the Canadian army, such as it is, is preparing to respond to an invasion from the USA. He is exploring whether he will be recalled to active duty. History repeats itself, first as tragedy, next as farce. Things did not go well in 1812 for the USA in Upper Canada.
I don't want to see McCain or Romney again.
I also sure as heck don't want to see George W. Bush again.
Childish antics could leave Trump as unpopular and as little esteemed as Bush was at the end of his term.
Some #NeverTrumper had the idea a few years back that #OwningtheLibs was replacing everything else for Republicans. That was wrong back then, but with this story it looks true. No one's "head is exploding." The Democrats and the left aren't "going crazy" over this. The only serious effect of such trolling is swing voters giving up on Trump.
**tcrosse said...
To really piss off the bien pensants he could name it Lake Calhoun (Minneapolis reference).**
Yep. And if he decides he wants to curry favor with them later on, he can change course and call it Lake Wellstone.
**No one's "head is exploding." The Democrats and the left aren't "going crazy" over this. The only serious effect of such trolling is swing voters giving up on Trump.**
You must have a very different social media feed than I do. All of my portside college pals are going apeshit over this.
In a week where a WSJ headline, "Trump to Ford Motor: Drop Dead", appeared, it might be amusing to troll, but what’s the real benefit?
It’s been nineteen months since Trump changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico, and it seems like no other countries have officially adopted “Gulf of America.” Now, we’re doing the same thing with Lake Ontario while also trying to get trade deals from Canada.
Perhaps the goal is to annoy Canadians. But if the aim is really to get Carney to agree, giving him another patriotic reason to be upset seems like a strange way to negotiate.
"No no. Change it to Katarokwi - the Indian name. Or spell it right. Its Ontarí'io"
I don't understand... The pre Columbian native Americans had no written language, but they did have apostrophes?!?!?
Speaking of which, the spelling of "Milwaukee" was finally decided when burglars stole all of the large "I"s except two from the pressroom of "The Milwaukee Sentinel"
Milwaukie Sentinel...ducking autocorrect!
Waste of time and energy renaming things and too hard to remember. But those in power can do what they want, renaming schools in our town and calling the gypsy moth the spongy moth. There are better things to worry about.
If, as seems to be the case, Canada is just as much a part of America as the US, isn't a body of water that is one half within each nation reasonably given a name that is reflective of its shared status?
@Peachy+2 said "why? this is dumb."
Yes it is. And it is hilarious. Trump knows what buttons to push and how to get people to hysterically react. The knee jerk reactions are hilarious too.
The knee jerk reactions are hilarious too.
It's Margaret Dumont all the way down. And Carney gets the respect he deserves.
Bird walks into the locker room, "Which one of you guys is playing for second?"
Back when Trump was merely a real estate guy from Long Island trying to make hay in Manhattan, his ridiculous self-regard, absurd self-promotion, and confirmed status as a flimflam man were both amusing and dangerous only to those who did business with him. Now he is POTUS and he has done many good things, but his persona as a 21st Century P T Barnum has gotten tired. We are all going to pay the piper if the Dems get control of either house of the legislative branch in November.
Arab Gulf vs Persian Gulf was a sore point to get Mail delivered in that region while ago.
Just name them all in size order:
Lake Superior (31,700 sq mi)
Lake Huron (23,000 sq mi)
Lake Michigan (22,300 sq mi)
Lake Erie (9,910 sq mi)
Lake Ontario (7,340 sq mi)
So Great Lake One to Great Lake Five. Ontario becomes Great Lake Five. Easy peasy.
Because the Fifth Fleet relies on the hospitality of Arab Gulf states like Bahrain, the UAE, and Kuwait while routinely navigating international waters right next to Iran, it operates under highly strict diplomatic naming protocols. In all official U.S. Navy press releases, ship logs, and regional operational maps, the body of water is officially referred to as the "Arabian Gulf" out of respect for its local Arab hosts, completely bypassing the official United Nations preference for "Persian Gulf."
Who did they file the "appropriate paperwork" with? Who did they have to notify? Can anybody file paperwork to change names? Haven't seen an attempt to answer/explain those questions from either Trump or his detractors. People who build subdivisions or buildings to name the buildings and/or the streets around them. Jim said it best:
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I never cease to be amused by the outrage he creates from all the usual suspects.
You do know you don't have to swing at every pitch, right?
I confess I don't mind the attempt to switch to "Gulf of America", but, as my sister pointed out most people probably just call it "The Gulf". The name only matters to mapmakers - which brings us back to "who do you file a name change with?".
“Who did they file the "appropriate paperwork" with? Who did they have to notify? Can anybody file paperwork to change names?”
Legally, President Trump’s executive order only applies to U.S.federal usage. Anyone has the right to file paperwork to change names. Not everyone has the power to change names.
from AI:
“Yes — anyone can propose a name change. The BGN says any person or organization, public or private, may submit a proposal. You fill out the Domestic Names Committee form and send it to BGNEXEC@usgs.gov or mail it to the BGN at USGS in Reston, Virginia. There is no filing fee. “
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