३० ऑगस्ट, २०२६

"As we see a rise in fascism, there is a direct correlation with thinness to make women take up less space."

So said the actress Hannah Einbinder:

Of course, she's getting trashed on X. She's "trending." That's why I saw it. I don't really know her, but I see she's highly praised for her role in "Hacks," and also that she's the daughter of Laraine Newman.

Anyway, it's cheap and easy to go after an actress who expresses any opinion that seems to require intelligence and background knowledge. I would prefer to isolate what she said and explore the various issues there:

1. There's a broad, casual use of the word "fascism" that's like the way Seinfeld used "Nazi" in "The Soup Nazi." You can argue that the word should be used more precisely, but it doesn't mean the person who's using it broadly is a fool.

2.  Correlation is not causation, and she only said "correlation." She intensified it with "direct" — "There is a direct correlation" — but Einbinder was clever enough to protect herself with the first-rate weasel word "correlation."

3. Did the actual historical fascists idealize female thinness? I don't think so. This Holocaust resources site discusses the 1937 Nazi newsreel "Healthy Woman - Healthy Nation," which began: "For women, the mothers of the future generations, the greatest asset is a healthy mind in a healthy body. Therefore a woman’s daily duties include the training of the body. Women’s sports must differ from men’s sports. Breaking records is a matter for men. Sports should give a woman more than just strength, joy, and gracefulness. The sports organization of the new Germany makes it possible for every woman to pursue the types of sports that are best and healthiest for her." 

4. Einbinder's statement caused me to go looking for the great 1993 documentary "The Wonderful Horrible Life of Leni Riefenstahl." I found the entire 3-hour film on YouTube, but I'm cuing it up to begin with the discussion of her 1938 Nazi propaganda film "Olympia." You can get some insight into Nazi ideas about the physical beauty and fitness:
 

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tommyesq म्हणाले...

Fascism. Is there nothing it can't do?

Achilles म्हणाले...

At some point people will realize "Fascism" for these people is just short hand for people who oppose the feminization of society.

Elimination of shame for being fat is pure condensed feminism.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Sorry, Fattists, we Fascists need our lebensraum.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Things that are fascist:

Students in public schools being able to read.

Not being fat.

Having a job and being self sufficient.

Letting people to the right of Mao have opinions.

Not hating Jews and deporting Hamas supporters.

Borders.

Deporting criminals.

Anne in Rockwall, TX म्हणाले...

Jupiter said...
Sorry, Fattists, we Fascists need our lebensraum.

And our lederhosen.

Paul Zrimsek म्हणाले...

People who use "fascism" broadly aren't always fools... but that's the way to bet.

Ampersand म्हणाले...

Female actors are under enormous pressure to keep their weight as low as possible. The camera adds pounds, and weight in the wrong places can readily disqualify you for a role. So naturally the thing that you are borderline obsessed with is correlated with the vague political idea that in some cloudy blurry way is the sum of all evil.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Seems worth going over one more time. It was Mussolini, a red-diaper socialist, who invented Fascism, and it was a direct reference to a bundle of sticks called the fasces. From Wiki; "The fasces, as a bundle of rods with an axe, was a grouping of all the equipment needed to inflict corporal or capital punishment. In ancient Rome, the bundle was a material symbol of a Roman magistrate's full civil and military power, known as imperium. "
Mussolini intended this reference to make his movement attractive to Italians. I doubt that the NAZIs were equally impressed. Although they were also Zocialists.

Actually, come to think of it, "Democratic Socialists of Amerika" has a lot in common with "National Socialist German Workers' Party". Maybe we should call them the DEZIs.

gilbar म्हणाले...

the Interesting Thing Is: lefties have become SO STUPID, that they think words mean WHAT EVER they want.. Right IEE?

Aggie म्हणाले...

She seems a little..... chubby. Would it be insulting if I applied a nickname the way Trump does? Hannah Heiniebinder? Would that correlate to facism?

hombre म्हणाले...

After, “As we see a rise in fascism”, nothing else matters. No analysis of her word choices makes her less of a Helen. “Correlation” vs. “causation”? Meh!

Maynard म्हणाले...

When you lack the ability to form a coherent argument, scream “fascism” or “racism”.

It is so tiresome.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"Correlation is not causation"

I really dislike this platitude. While technically correct, it's usually used to discount the correlation as being counterfactual. While technically correct, in fact correlation often reveals causation. It's why we do statistics.

Narr म्हणाले...

"Cheap and easy" is a good phrase for her and her opinions.

Kassaar म्हणाले...

With some exceptions, actors shouldn't try to write their own lines.

James K म्हणाले...

This falls under "Women hardest hit." Hardly a day goes by that the NYT doesn't have a piece that falls into this category.

gilbar म्हणाले...

let's put aside our sneers and ask some SERIOUS QUESTIONS:
IF we stipulate a "rise in fascism" at the current time..
AND we stipulate a "direct correlation" with "THINNESS"..

wouldn't THAT imply? that there is MORE "THINNESS" in the world, TODAY; than in, i don't know..
The 60's?
The 70's?
The 80's?
The 90's?

I'm ASSUMING that she's saying that people aren't as fat friendly NOW, as they were during the O'Bama admin..
BUT
for a "direct correlation" to work.. wouldn't HAVE TO correlate?
across time and decades?

You people are (mostly) Old People.. With (still some) memory..
Was there less "THINNESS" back in the good old days?

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I don't know Hannah Einbinder (and her sparse imdb page explains why), I know her mother, who I remember as being exceptionally thin.

Jamie म्हणाले...

"in fact correlation often reveals causation"

At least it often *implies* causation. But we still need to point the arrow in the correct direction, which seems to be a big ol' sticking point.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Original Mike said...
"..I know her mother, who I remember as being exceptionally thin.."
exactly! so apparently, the Carter era was THE HIGHT of fascism!

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

That Nazi propaganda newsreel suggests an answer to the problem of transgender women in sports. It says: "Breaking records is a matter for men. Sports should give a woman more than just strength, joy, and gracefulness."

How about a separate division of school sports — apart from the existing men's and women's divisions that channel competition and keep male and female separated — that eliminates the competitive spirit and is all about beauty, grace, and joy?

There would no longer be a problem of transgender women having a competitive advantage, because there would be no way to win, no idea of anyone being better than anyone else.

Everyone would aspire to joy and grace — traditional feminine values and perhaps what transgender women mean when they assert that they feel that inside they are a woman. Plenty of biological women would like this too, and this group could get along and would be specifically engaged in the activity of getting along — full of grace and joy.

michaele म्हणाले...

Her observation about the "return" to thinness in female (and male ) celebrities and regular people has more to do with the availability of the weight loss drugs like Ozempic. The fat icons like Lizzo and Oprah have publicly delighted in showing off their new more slender appearance. It has nothing to do with the rise of what she considers fascism.

Roger Sweeny म्हणाले...

Once in a stall in a college bathroom, someone had put up an International Workers of the World "One Big Union" sticker. It was a drawing of a very muscular young man, naked from the waist up, holding a sledge hammer from a point of view looking up. The picture was pretty much centered on his groin. One perceptive student had crossed out "union" and written in "dick".

The cult of beautiful bodies isn't so much fascist or communist as gay.

https://archive.iww.org/graphics/agitators/classic/obu.gif

Josephbleau म्हणाले...

"As we see a rise in fascism, there is a direct correlation with thinness to make women take up less space."

Correlation requires two or more random variables. The “ As we see a rise in fascism”. Is an introductory adverbial clause, it adds context to the next statement. “there is a direct correlation with thinness to make women take up less space."
But there is only one variable there, thinness, so what is thinness correlated with? Very muddled. She was trying to sound smart but got it wrong.

JK Brown म्हणाले...

"— that eliminates the competitive spirit and is all about beauty, grace, and joy?"

Basically, a set up like the Danish/Nordic Folk School

“Folk high schools in Europe are residential adult education institutions that prioritize personal development, democratic citizenship, and informal learning over academic degrees or formal examinations."

The student competes against their prior capability, instead of being driven by competing to prove others "the loser".

Howard म्हणाले...

She's got a good point. Corpulent zaftig rubenesque women are impossible to ignore.

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

C'mon. This is some sort of satire, right? (Her mom was pretty good at it). Take up less space?

Maybe she just recently flew economy (as I did). This is an airline conspiracy. Which unfortunately doesn't seem to be having much success.

Also why is she wearing a graduation gown?

Only other women and gay male designers care how skinny you are.

Josephbleau म्हणाले...

“ Plenty of biological women would like this too, and this group could get along and would be specifically engaged in the activity of getting along — full of grace and joy.”

But this would not answer the main question of whether the girls would have to get naked in front of the trans boys.

JK Brown म्हणाले...

Well, the direct correlation is with socialism. Fascism is nationality-based socialism. Marxism is class-based socialism. Nazism was race-based socialism. For those slow, the common element is "socialism".

Socialism "purposes to introduce new forces into society and industry; to put a stop to the idleness, the waste of resources, the misdirection of force, inseparable, in some large proportion of instances, from individual initiative; and to drive the whole mass forward in the direction determined by the intelligence of its better half."
----Walker, F.A., 'Socialism', Scribner's Magazine 1887

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

"How about a separate division of school sports — apart from the existing men's and women's divisions that channel competition and keep male and female separated — that eliminates the competitive spirit and is all about beauty, grace, and joy?"

That already exists. It's called "Dance" and very few people are interested.

Eric the Fruit Bat म्हणाले...

No commenter has yet ragged on her for the uptalking so please let me be the first.

loudogblog म्हणाले...

Women feeling pressured to be thin is a problem that has been with us for a very long time. I also associate this pressure as originating from the entertainment industry. I think that people first really noticed this problem when Karen Carpenter died of anorexia.

Whiskeybum म्हणाले...

“ How about a separate division of school sports… that eliminates the competitive spirit and is all about beauty, grace, and joy?”

I think Dance would qualify for this, but even that can be done in a competitive setting.

imTay म्हणाले...

A simpler explanation is that cameras are everywhere, and TV adds ten pounds.

Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

As a man who finds boney-assed women utterly unappetizing, I can tell you the naturally plump female form is more greatly appreciated today than at any time in the previous sixty years.

I think “Einbinder” translates roughly as “Shrew.”

Quaestor म्हणाले...

"People who use 'fascism' broadly aren't always fools."

Horses, not zebras.

Lazarus म्हणाले...

Fascists would have despised paper-thin modern women. The mothers of the nation needed abundant breasts and wide hips for childbearing. Fascism (and its Stalinist brother) was a bit of two minds. Some women would be working in the fields. The wives of the leaders wouldn't.

Ralph L म्हणाले...

Guess she wasn't old enough when heroin chic was around. Someone get that Grande skeleton a cheeseburger, stat.

john mosby म्हणाले...

The Nazi feminine ideal was kind of like the volleyball girl in the Mutt/Jeff couple of a few posts ago: broad shoulders, respectable but not gigantic breasts, wide hips, and a moderate amount of subcutaneous fat. Reflected the raw material of Germanic womanhood, filtered through the needs of the Fatherland: childbearing and moderately vigorous work. Here is an example:

https://www.alamy.com/a-bronze-statue-titled-jungfrau-virgin-by-fritz-von-graevenitz-circa-1945-this-statue-served-as-a-piece-of-nazi-propaganda-during-the-second-world-war-as-it-reflects-the-regimes-ideals-on-a-female-including-purity-beauty-youth-and-fertility-image602294037.html

So ironically, it was the natural, non-gym-addict form that Einbeinder probably wants to promote.

CC, JSM

Iman म्हणाले...

Phat Phascist Pharm

Blair म्हणाले...

Female thinness is the ideal of a society where birth control and homosexuality are rampant. Trad men dig curves. A thin woman is just another object by which men can masturbate themselves for their own pleasure. They're not partners for building a life and family together.

About ten years ago people stopped caring about being called racist, because the term stopped having any real meaning. We're at that point with the term "fascist" now. The Left should be careful what they wish for, because at some point people will stop caring whether they are actually racist or fascist.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

Fascist or not this fall will turn on how hard democrats lean into collectivism and abandon individualism. Lorraine was herself pretty danged skinny back when the coke-no-food diet was all the rage.

Josephbleau म्हणाले...

Saying correlation is not causation is fine, but I always say, lack of correlation certainly proves lack of causation.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

“but it doesn't mean the person who's using it broadly is a fool.”

Yes it does.

You’re looking at a very common Lefty trope and trying to pretend it makes sense (in some alternate dimension). Anything the writer does not like is labeled as fascist or sexist or racist and that is supposed to end the debate. More recently words implying irrational fear: homophobic, transphobic, and, lately, islamaphobic. It’s fair to point out that we of the Right* started this trope, labeling liberal causes of the 50s and 60s like the Civil Rights movement and welfare as communistic, but that by no means justifies its continuation.

_______________
* However back in the 60s I was a high school and college student (and an eventual draftee). I began to evolve after the classic 1965-era joke: “They told me that if I voted for Barry Goldwater in six months we’d be in a shooting war in Southeast Asia. Well I did anyway and sure enough we were.”

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Sorry - I was a student and a liberal in the 1960s. I left my (then) political affiliation out of the footnote.

Peachy+2 म्हणाले...

The left = the actual fascists.

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

We’re in the midst of an obesity and diabetes epidemic. Trips to the grocery story have become something of a nightmare vision. Fit and trim people have become rare. Asses the size of a couch are common. A high percentage of people are using the grocery cart as a walker because they can’t stand up. How in the hell, in the midst of this, do you write about “thinness” as a problem?

Will Cate म्हणाले...

5. Hacks was an overrated show which ran out of steam after two seasons.

Peachy+2 म्हणाले...

For me this is about bitching about bitching and moaning about something silly.
Of course it's unhealthy to be too thin. or too fat.

Nazi's dreamed of a perfect world - filled with perfect people. Who does that remind you of?

Wilbur म्हणाले...

Hmmm, can't remember the last time I saw a Mutt and Jeff reference.

I hope someone sees fit to mention Alphonse and Gaston soon.

Hey Skipper म्हणाले...

"There's a broad, casual use of the word "fascism" that's like the way Seinfeld used "Nazi" in "The Soup Nazi." You can argue that the word should be used more precisely, but it doesn't mean the person who's using it broadly is a fool."

What it almost always means is that the person who is using it is replacing anything resembling an actual argument with pure defamation, and is nearly as certainly a fool in the bargain.

See also: racist, misogynist, homophobe, transphobe, Islamophobe.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

When I was moving our house items last November I found my high school yearbook from my senior year from 1983-1984 school year. Out of 132 students in my graduating class, there was exactly one fat girl- just one- and none of the boys were fat by even the most loose definitions of obese.

Eva Marie म्हणाले...

Correlation is not causation, and she only said "correlation." She intensified it with "direct" — "There is a direct correlation" — but Einbinder was clever enough to protect herself with the first-rate weasel word "correlation."
But “to make women take up less space is a cause or purpose.
Correlations don’t have goals.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

Fascism seems to have developed as a term in order for socialists and communists to label other socialists and communists as enemies.

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

The delusional, psychotic nature of this post is bewildering. A couple of years ago, I became so fed up with always being in the company of fatsos that I took dance lessons and started going to dance just to be around people who are fit, mobile and active. (It works, too. You don’t see asses as big a sofa on a dance floor.)

Peachy+2 म्हणाले...

St- right? So much obesity.

Peachy+2 म्हणाले...

The left want to re-define everything and destroy language.
Seems fascist to me.

Smilin' Jack म्हणाले...

“"As we see a rise in fascism, there is a direct correlation with thinness to make women take up less space."
So said the actress Hannah Einbinder”

Lefties keep getting out of their way to make fascism sound good.

“Correlation is not causation, and she only said "correlation." She intensified it with "direct" — "There is a direct correlation" — but Einbinder was clever enough to protect herself with the first-rate weasel word "correlation."”

“Direct correlation” usually implies causation one way or the other. Maybe thin women cause fascism? Or something else causes both simultaneously? What would that be?

“"How about a separate division of school sports — apart from the existing men's and women's divisions that channel competition and keep male and female separated — that eliminates the competitive spirit and is all about beauty, grace, and joy?"

That already exists. It's called "Dance" and very few people are interested.”

Wut?! Has no one seen “Black Swan”?

Smilin' Jack म्हणाले...

going out of their way, not getting.

ThatsGoingToLeaveA म्हणाले...

I used to be against fascism until I learned that under fascism there is pressure for women to be thin and "take up less space". Fat women are an eyesore.

William म्हणाले...

In common parlance, I think Fascism, like the word bourgeois, has come to mean any kind of social construct that the speaker finds discomfiting.......I think the prompts for thinness comes not from politics or from social rules but rather from our own conscience. We all know when we have put on a few too many pounds and very few people go through an entire life without either dieting or getting fat. There's no way around it. We want to be thin and we want to eat all the good things that are all around us all the time everywhere we go and we all live within steps of the refrigerator where there are some tasty, relatively healthy foods that are ours to ingest if we so desire. It's pretty to think that our will power is stronger than our appetites, but we all know that's a crock........Still, I don't blame the fascists for this. I blame the capitalists. They're forever inventing new ways to make food taste better and at a cheaper price. I'm afraid if you want to be thin you need to live in a Socialist country live Cuba. They've really got that obesity problem licked.

Peachy+2 म्हणाले...

The parallels between German Nazis and the modern neo-fascist left are striking.

Temujin म्हणाले...

Well...this is not her first foray into far-left idiocy. Notably for me, she's one of those coastal antisemitic Jews. Loves her cushy life. Hates that Israelis fight for their continued existence against those who would have her head-or worse- if given the chance. She is a walking caricature of today's regressive mindset.

Dogma and Pony Show म्हणाले...

The American left is clearly a lot more fascist than the right because they embrace violence and intimidation as their primary means of persuasion. In their minds, anyone who disagrees with them is evil and undeserving of rational engagement, and the way to gain power is simply to punish (physically, if necessary) those who stand in their way. It's the complete intolerance of competing philosophies and beliefs that best defines fascism, and this is sadly what the left has now become.

Peachy+2 म्हणाले...

Lets look at the fascist left.

Democrat soviet media lies & misinformation and dem-soviet speech crimes are all leftwing fascism.

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

Folks, can you stop debating fascism?

The U.S. has a gross, deadly, ugly obesity problem. Thinness is close to non-existent, especially in women.

baghdadbob म्हणाले...

She's right. Fascism/Socialism does correlate with thinness for the vast majority of people living under that system. Another word for this kind of thinness is starvation.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Ann Althouse said...

How about a separate division of school sports — apart from the existing men's and women's divisions that channel competition and keep male and female separated — that eliminates the competitive spirit and is all about beauty, grace, and joy?

Ice skating.

Or rhythmic gymnastics

Dogma and Pony Show म्हणाले...

I'm curious why Ann thinks that MTF trannies would be content to engage in women's "sports" that don't involve competition. It certainly seems like the transwomen we've seen in swimming, track, volleyball, etc., are very much interested not only in competing, but in winning as well. It's clearly not just an aesthetic pursuit for them. Or is it your suggestion that regular XX women should abandon women's sports and instead choose non-competitive activities as a means of avoiding having to compete against XY "women"?

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

To quote Yogi Berra, “You can observe a lot by just watching.”

From GPT: “The latest CDC measurement is 171.8 pounds for the average American woman aged 20 or older, at an average height of 5 feet 3½ inches. That combination produces a BMI of roughly 30—right at the threshold of clinical obesity. The data come from August 2021–August 2023. CDC body-measurement data⁠.”

Achilles म्हणाले...

Shouting Thomas said...

We’re in the midst of an obesity and diabetes epidemic. Trips to the grocery story have become something of a nightmare vision. Fit and trim people have become rare. Asses the size of a couch are common. A high percentage of people are using the grocery cart as a walker because they can’t stand up. How in the hell, in the midst of this, do you write about “thinness” as a problem?

I like to play a game with my daughters.

If you released a pack of hungry 3 legged wolves inside this Costco and all you had to do was run 6 miles an hour to escape how many people in here would make it out?

Original Mike म्हणाले...

“The latest CDC measurement is 171.8 pounds for the average American woman aged 20 or older,"

Holy cow.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

I really enjoy hacks, but her character is a bit of a fool. A woke millennial entitled narcissist. I’m not terribly surprised that the actress who plays her so well is also a bit of a fool. A woke millennial entitled narcissist. (And yes, somebody who thinks it’s ok to use fascism to describe anything she doesn’t like is a fool.)

Iman म्हणाले...

It’s never a stone’s throw. Actors are pretty fucking far from reality.

Smilin' Jack म्हणाले...

“Ann Althouse said...

How about a separate division of school sports — apart from the existing men's and women's divisions that channel competition and keep male and female separated — that eliminates the competitive spirit and is all about beauty, grace, and joy?

Ice skating”

Tonya Harding.

Lawnerd म्हणाले...

Nepo baby made a comment about fascism and thin females, if she weren’t a nepo baby would anybody care?

Smilin' Jack म्हणाले...

““The latest CDC measurement is 171.8 pounds for the average American woman aged 20 or older,"

Holy cow.”

Holy shit. And just think, those resources could have made almost two attractive women.

Peachy+2 म्हणाले...

THE RISE of fascism = "I didn't get my way with Kamala and Walz"

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"in fact correlation often reveals causation"
Might as well go over the possibilities. If A and B are correlated, it can be
1) A random correlation, that will disappear when a larger data set is examined.
2 ) A causes B.
3 ) B causes A.
4) A and B are both caused by C.

hanuman_prodigious_leaper म्हणाले...

Ich bin Einbinder ---- Can it brings back Camelot

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"those resources could have made almost two attractive women."

Heh!

john mosby म्हणाले...

Achilles: "If you released a pack of hungry 3 legged wolves inside this Costco and all you had to do was run 6 miles an hour to escape how many people in here would make it out?"

Do the obesity scooters go faster than 6 mph? RLTW, JSM

Peachy+2 म्हणाले...


Good Lord.

J Scott म्हणाले...

The interpretation is "fascism wants thin women because they take up less space "in politics"" because pretty (read thin) women, are spending more time being pretty then being politically vocal, but you have to read the jargon to understand it.

Of course none of this is true in any sense.

PigHelmet म्हणाले...

I saw a TikTok some time ago that has stuck with me: a normal-size woman (130 lbs?) asked her boyfriend if he would prefer that she be twice her current weight or half her current weight. When he stopped to ponder, she pointed out with some asperity, “At half my current weight, I’d be dead!” He continued to ponder. The video ended with her committing violence. I assume it was a skit.

narciso म्हणाले...

Its a stupid opinion why do we care aboutt this person

Lazarus म्हणाले...

Fascism must not have anything to do with Donald Trump then, since he and America's most famous anorexic, Ariana Grande, are feuding. I'm sure he'd love for her to eat a sandwich or something ... or ... anything ...

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

What does Twiggy think of this?

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I remember when small people were lauded for consuming fewer resources.

n.n म्हणाले...

This must be a feminist or trans opinion. Men appreciate a woman's curves as part and parcel of the feminine gender. That said, there is health in moderation.

William म्हणाले...

If your ideal is thinness, the beau ideal was reached in the Soviet Union during the collectivization years. Stalin has come in for a lot of criticism, but if you were anorexic it was very heaven to be alive during those years.......Some people look at Mamdani's grocery stores and see unfair competition. Such people lack vision. I look at Mamdani's grocery stores and I see thin people wandering among empty shelves. Given time and scope to fulfill his dreams, I think Mamdani will solve the obesity crisis here in NYC.

Jim at म्हणाले...

I wonder if these people realize how tedious they are, and why some of us wish their entire industry would just burn to the ground.

gilbar म्हणाले...

From GPT: “The latest CDC measurement is 171.8 pounds for the average American woman aged 20 or older, at an average height of 5 feet 3½ inches.

let's start with the end of the statement.
average height for american women aged 20+ is 5 feet 3.5 inches
AND the average american woman DEMANDS a man be 6 feet+

ALSO thr average woman weighs OVER 170 lbs..
AND will be OUTRAGED if you ask her her weight

Men MUST BE more than 8 inches taller than a woman that
PROBABLY weighs AS MUCH as he does.
It ALL makes sense! and it's fascism that is the problem!!!

Eva Marie म्हणाले...

“Its a stupid opinion why do we care about this person“
I like it because I like the sentence - put me in the category of easily amused. It pairs an abstract word with a very specific, emotionally laden one, which is why it has an impact even before you decide whether it’s true.
And there’s a real divide between people who want to exist without judgment and people who have ambition. It’s not for nothing DSA stands for Daddy’s Saving Account.

Breezy म्हणाले...

Most women want to take up less space because that’s what all the magazines elevate. So, what’s the problem here?

Also, it’s not fascism, it’s MAHA, silly woman.

Eva Marie म्हणाले...

I should have paired people who want to exist without judgement with people who want to bring back standards.
Standards imply the possibility of failure. And ambition is the response to failure (I think)

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

Ann Althouse said...

That Nazi propaganda newsreel suggests an answer to the problem of transgender women in sports. It says: "Breaking records is a matter for men. Sports should give a woman more than just strength, joy, and gracefulness."

Oh! Those wacky Nazis! They were just trying to cover up for Dora "Heinrich" Ratjen!

Iman म्हणाले...

“Men MUST BE more than 8 inches taller than a woman that
PROBABLY weighs AS MUCH as he does.
It ALL makes sense! and it's fascism that is the problem!!!”

Oh, GIVE ‘EM their 8 inches, gilbar!

Keith म्हणाले...

These people are nuts. Self-hating Jew of course. My Mom was a democrat decades ago and gradually became more conservative as the democrat party became more nuts. She is a no-nonsense lady who understands reality. We were recently talking about suffrage. She was saying something along the lines - seeing how nuts white liberal women are becoming - maybe giving women the right to vote wasn't the best idea." I said "I know!" We both laughed a little. We both said "you know I'm joking but ... not entirely joking."

Keith म्हणाले...

The obvious question to ALL these crazy liberals crying fascism is - you really can't discuss a topic without clarity as to the argument itself. What exactly do you mean by fascism? They give a list of "things I don't like." They are just so ignorant it's hard to speak with them. DJT is a nazi! Well, what did the nazis do that you think is so bad? OK then ... in what way does DJT do those things? It's a word salad. They are imbeciles.

ThreeSheets म्हणाले...

She has a very white middle/upper-middle class view of this. I teach in Chicago Public schools filled with plus size minority girls. Probably more big girls than thin and nobody has a problem with it. It's been that way my entire career there. She's another left-leaning progressive woman lecturing the rest of us without actually knowing anything.

imTay म्हणाले...

I am guessing that the highest correlation with thin females comes from countries under US sanctions. You want to see skinny, try North Korea. under sanctions for 76 years, per Chat..

Rustygrommet म्हणाले...

Howard said...
She's got a good point. Corpulent zaftig rubenesque women are impossible to ignore.

Especially in that einsatzgruppen uniform, eh Howard.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

"but it doesn't mean the person who's using it [fascism] broadly is a fool.

Yes, it means they are a fool term doesn't understand the term. They are college "educated" but still historically and rhetorically ignorant.

EVERYBOY understood the "Soup Nazi" joke. These people aren't joking.

Why do you insist on defending their ignorance? Is it because you worked for an educational system which created this ignorance, and at the same time provided you wealth and comfort.

I get it. That has to be hard to internally reconcile. Unless you've mastered 'cruel neutrality' with your own thoughts.

Rich Rostrom म्हणाले...

"[xxxxx] Nazi" uses it as a descriptive modifier, meaning "excessively authoritarian about [xxxxx]". One could use "fascist" in the same way. If [xxxxx] is something light, like soup, it's just humorous hyperbole. Though "fascist" is a bit different: it's sometimes used adjectively to criticize style or method rather than content.

But alone, it has a very specific meaning.

Meade म्हणाले...

Hannah, you ignorant slut.

Narr म्हणाले...

I have to concede that she's much more attractive than her ma was in her prime.

Rocco म्हणाले...

hanuman_prodigious_leaper said...
“Ich bin Einbinder” ---- Can it brings back Camelot?

New anime movie: Hannah, the last Einbender.

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