"... but 'unfortunately the scene that we see them didn’t make it in there,' said the director. Cathy having unshaven pits 'was so important to me,' she said, adding that she often wonders 'where are the razors that these women are using?' when watching Jane Austen adaptations. 'They’re all kind of hairless like eels. I’m like: "What’s going on? It’s completely mad."'"
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"Wuthering Heights director regrets not showing Margot Robbie’s 'extremely hairy armpits'" (The Guardian).
Do female characters in Jane Austen movies wear sleeveless dresses? If not, and I think not, where are all these hairless eels? The director — Emerald Fennell — sounds half mad.
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Emma Hamilton does not appear to have hairy armpits in her many portraits that expose her arms as a check on the period. On the other hand she wasn't a respectable woman.
"Lady Hamilton as Cassandra" has the best view of the issue.
I shave my armpits.
Hairy armpits don't really serve a purpose anymore.
Some places I fish have these huge freshwater eels. They’re creepy. I’ll take hot woman hairy armpits…
Hairy armpits are a bacterial breeding ground. Doing nothing is a low bar.
Do eels have armpits?
I don't know why, but it's huge turnoff. Makes me feel gay, although with Robbie, I'd get over it.
Hairy armpits and crotchless pants, with no mention of -ahem- grooming preferences. But I strongly suspect untrimmed shrubs as well. What could possibly be next?
Armpits may be visible while just wearing undergarments of the day.
I've always found young attractive women with wispy blonde body hair "clinically known as vellus hair, commonly referred to as "peach fuzz" a complete turn on.
I even noticed Margo Robbie's forearm hair in this scene from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood when she puts the record player arm on the Paul Revere & the Raiders album.
Not to mention the endless speculation engendered by her spread leg scene in Wolf of Wall Street.
Lord, I need help.
With or without hair, there is something labial about the female armpit.
Female shaving choices have vague cultural connotations:
No shave = no money for razors, no time for grooming, no motivation, no self awareness, no concern about what others think.
Shave = money for razors, time for grooming (or excessive vanity), seek to stand out as physically different than males, and to show hairless status when raising arms in a "look at me" or sexually vulnerable posture.
For the USA, I think shaving women communicate that they are "playing ball" with the mainstream. It's partly cultural, partly mating, and partly strategic or ideological. I've known ultra conservative and ultra left women who didn't shave. And who did.
I thought that's what the puffy sleeves were for.
Maybe Emerald Fennell could have gotten together with Valie Export to show off Robie’s unshaved pubic hair. Now it’s too late.
I think Emerald sounds half mad and the other half depraved maniac.
And who says that women of the era didn’t shave their armpits? It would certainly have been possible—they weren’t living in the Stone Age.
"The director — Emerald Fennell — sounds half mad."
So, what does the other half sound like? Obsessive wacko?
Emerald Fennell started out as an actress. She played the young(ish) Camilla on "The Crown," and made her almost seem sexy -- at least, to the extent that you could see why Prince Charles had been attracted to her.
Hairy armpits are more reminiscent of eels than hairless ones.
Oh shes stark raving
If I were Margot Robbie, I’d say, “Thank you so much. First you cast me in your turkey of a movie and now you announce to the world I have ‘extremely hairy armpits’. No more favors. Please.”
People are funny on the subject of hair.
Serge has strong feelings on the subject.
When I was a kid, Outward Bound, our girl leader either had hairy armpits or hairy legs, I can't remember. This was in the mountains of North Carolina, 1985. Our tongues were wagging about that shit.
Three weeks later, with two showers in that span, we were all in the airport, waiting for our flight. And sitting by ourselves, because the b.o. was pretty strong, I reckon. We were used to it.
I remember, after shower #2, thinking, "Man, these girls clean up nice."
I'm not saying we were like Bigfoot, but when you're in the woods for a while, you revert.
We were not allowed to shampoo in the river. Because the environment and chemicals and shit. So if you wanted to bathe, you had to get a bucket from the river and go off somewhere with your bucket. That was an unpopular option.
Barbie in the Amazon…
Jane Austen wanders into an Emily Bronte novel - hairy pits and all.
They gave us little blue bottles of iodine, I think. And you would put water in your flask and add the iodine and shake it and wait 30 minutes for the iodine to kill the bacteria. I guess.
So after a week of hiking and being a sweaty mess -- this was the middle of summer -- the 30 minutes became 20 minutes.
And then it became 10 minutes.
A week after that, we'd shake that damn flask as hard as we could and wait 1 minute. "That's good enough."
Iodine water sucks, by the way. I'm pretty sure I was drinking right out of the river by the end of it.
Bigfoot never had a problem with bacteria. As far as I know, Bigfoot is not a scientist.
I didn't shit for the first week. I started worrying about it on day 4. "What happened to going the bathroom? I used to go to the bathroom." My body was using up all our vegetarian food -- pro tip, if you are eating nothing but beans on the hiking trail, avoid being the last one in the line -- and I had no waste, apparently. On day 7, Bigfoot solved this problem by eating his entire supply of prunes in one go.
We only had 1 roll of toilet paper. That was popular. Protect the toilet paper! And it got wet when it rained on us.
Achilles said...
I shave my armpits.
Lady Schick or blade, sir?
Nobody had sex.
There was this one girl from New York, all she talked about were restaurants in New York and her trip to Israel. She loved Israel. Big Zionist. She had big tits, and I was attracted to her at first. Zaftig, I think is the word. She was zaftig. I didn't notice any armpit hair. None of us were shaving. I had the world's worst beard. We all looked like lost hippies in the woods. Even that zaftig girl from New York City. None of the girls had facial hair, though. That's a big turn-off for me. Girls with a lot of facial hair.
When I was back in civilization, I told this story to my first girlfriend, Jewish.
"All she would talk about is restaurants in New York, and Israel."
"I think I like this girl."
"No, no, she was horrible, we all hated her."
"I think we'd be friends."
We lost our virginity together, my girlfriend and I. And I became a Zionist. May or may not be related, I don't know. Watch out, RCOcean II. I don't want to scare you, but I've noticed a lot of Jews like Israel.
No armpit hair on my girlfriend, but she had the hairy bush. That was a thing. I am okay with hairy bush. I like bush country. Brazil is okay, too. I am non-judgmental and happy to be there.
Margot Robie is 35. Isn’t Cathy Earnshaw supposed to be in her late teens or (very) early twenties?
Hollywood made a movie Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.
Trying to suck the men into Jane Austen world.
Wuthering Heights with Vampires
I've seen Twilight. But I've skipped Wuthering Heights, so I don't know. Can you add vampires to Bronte? I ought to buy the Cliff's notes so I could pitch it to Hollywood.
Is this love, or a gothic nightmare?
Maybe Heathcliff could become a devouring vicious cat or something. Black panther? That's been done. Ocelot.
Bragging about having pubic hair and armpit hair has been a new theme the past few months among young women on Facebook. It’s revolutionary and daring. It was also revolutionary and daring during the hippie era. Then, following that into the porn era, shaved pits and pussy were revolutionary and daring.
What an interesting site today.
I found that an amusing film
PP&V
You cannot do Pride and Prejudice with Frankenstein's monster.
They tried. "We need a marriage subplot." It did not work out. Dead women are so judgmental.
I think I hear a cuckoo in the cuckooberra tree.
If she says armpits must be hairy I suggest that you agree.
Sleeveless dresses were the scandal of the flappers in the 1920s. Short sleeves were even new.
"The flappers wore thin dresses, short-sleeved and occasionally (in the evening) sleeveless; some of the wilder young things rolled their stockings below their knees, revealing to the shocked eyes of virtue a fleeting glance of shin-bones and knee-cap; and many of them were visibly using cosmetics. "The intoxication of rouge," earnestly explained Dorothy Speare in Dancers in the Dark, "is an insidious vintage known to more girls than mere man can ever believe." Useless for frantic parents to insist that no lady did such things; the answer was that the daughters of ladies were doing it, and even retouching their masterpieces in public. Some of them, furthermore, were abandoning their corsets. "The men won't dance with you if you wear a corset," they were quoted as saying."
---‘Only Yesterday An Informal History Of The Nineteen Twenties’, Frederick Lewis Allen (1931)
I loved the fact that the teen girl in the series 1883 - the female lead, can't remember her character's name - had properly unshaven pits. They only showed them in a couple of episodes, I expect because of audience response, but it was historically accurate and absolutely correct for a "decent" young American woman. I applauded the young actor's commitment and you hung-up dudes herein can go pound sand if you disagree - the only shaven pubescent American women of the time were, as we now say, "sex workers," and that was not her character's arc.
Note that I am not passing judgment on shaving or not, only commenting on historical accuracy.
Here's one framing: "the sexist ads that forced women to start shaving under their arms for the first time." I guess women are forced to do a lot of things because of ads and social acceptance today too. See F to M transgenderism.
https://www.dailymail.com/lifestyle/article-3320902/Video-reveals-sexist-ads-urged-women-start-shaving-armpits-time-1915-immaculate-unembarrassed-sleeveless-trends.html
This would mesh with the flapper era, early films, and the rise of home electrical devices like razors.
However, I've read that as far back as ancient Egypt women removed their hair -- it interrupts body lines for those who wish to draw attention to other body parts.
A poem the old, conservative Chicago Tribune would publish on Memorial Day
“Gold and green are the fields in peace
Red are the fields in war.
Black are the fields when the battles cease.
Then white forevermore.”
I was watching a news clip of soldiers from The Old Guard planting flags on the graves at Arlington, and the old poem came to mind.
Well, I began shaving my pits (this was like 30 years ago) after I started wearing tank tops to the gym (had worn t-shirts for years, but they got to starting to feel like they were choking me) because I was working out a lot harder. As bulk in that area increased, that little patch of hair started looking kinda silly. Deodorant/antiperspirant works much better, as a side benefit.
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