Trump assures us, at Truth Social.
Israel, out of anger for what has taken place in the Middle East, has violently lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars Gas Field in Iran. A relatively small section of the whole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about this particular attack, and the country of Qatar was in no way, shape, or form, involved with it, nor did it have any idea that it was going to happen. Unfortunately, Iran did not know this, or any of the pertinent facts pertaining to the South Pars attack, and unjustifiably and unfairly attacked a portion of Qatar’s LNG Gas facility. NO MORE ATTACKS WILL BE MADE BY ISRAEL pertaining to this extremely important and valuable South Pars Field unless Iran unwisely decides to attack a very innocent, in this case, Qatar - In which instance the United States of America, with or without the help or consent of Israel, will massively blow up the entirety of the South Pars Gas Field at an amount of strength and power that Iran has never seen or witnessed before. I do not want to authorize this level of violence and destruction because of the long term implications that it will have on the future of Iran, but if Qatar’s LNG is again attacked, I will not hesitate to do so. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP
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He needs to learn what paragraphs are.
Or rather, the person who tweets as DJT. As we learned with the racist video, the middle of the night posting is handled by someone else.
Others have pointed out that Qatar has been Iran’s best friend in the region and they got hit anyway—the lesson being you can’t trust the Mullahs.
But I think this attack (or at least this type of attack) is predictable. We’ve taken out almost the entire leadership and eliminated communication channels such that individual units are acting without direction. In that scenario, Iran’s response will be increasingly chaotic and irrational.
The WS Journal has a bit of a different take, well reported, more believable, that Israel cleared the attack with the WH in advance.
Donald "Too Late" Trump is spinning out of control, pointing fingers at his only coalition member, and trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. Total failure.
He needs to learn what paragraphs are.
Social media posts are meant to be freeform and casual. Because of the deliberate space constraints platforms like Twitter originally required<\i> taking liberties in formatting, punctuation and language. Now the space constraints have expanded but the language hacks created when characters were limited still remain. My coffee hasn’t kicked in so my explanation is inelegant and deserves a better explanation but the point is when an idiot chimes in on the violations of strunk and white it outs you as an idiot, a mouth breathing social media illiterate, not the intellectual one upper you think you are…you should stop it…
…also when you do it to Trump is makes you look like you have no substantive response to the content…
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Has Rubio not published the list of all the other coalition partners then?
So after 19 days of nonstop bombing, Iran still has the capability to pre-announce to the world that they’re going to hit Qatari energy facilities and then successfully execute it.
The 90-10 rule of thumb: the last 10% of a project takes 90% of the total time to complete it. Finding and destroying the remaining weapons capability is dragging on.
With Trump and Israel going it alone this time, this conflict allowed other players do what they really wanted to do versus prior, timid, UN-coordinated and diplomatic actions against Iran.
We've learned:
1. Iran hates many of its Arab (non-Persian) neighbors as much as it hates the US. This dates back to the forced Islamic conversion of Persian Zoroastrians >1,000 years ago, but the recent "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" chants obscured it.
2. Many Arab nations quickly chose the Israeli/USA side when push came to shove. Good to know. US, Israel, an Arab nations are the new functional "NATO"?
3. Israel is hated in part because they routinely press their advantage to the maximum extent possible. They, of course, have historical reasons for it, even if it comes across as Iran-like zealotry. Given their now semi-friendly Arab nations, this is tone deaf.
4. Europe today is led by appeasement politicians no different than Neville Chamberlain. They tried to appease Russia and live off Russian oil before Ukraine, and they now depend on Persian Gulf oil. Following decades of unrealistic green-mania, the chickens have come home to roost. WW2 is finally over. Europe must wake up soon.
5. China just noticed, for their first time, a serious fuel supply Achilles Heel in their empire ambitions. I suspect they'll adopt a new strategy versus the last 10-20 years of bullying Taiwan and South China Sea nations, and they'll update Belt & Road.
6. Russia sits in a powerful position: they have oil, they have nukes. Europe and China need oil and may bend the knee to get it.
Just think where oil and natgas would be if the Dems had more success in shutting down oil and gas drilling.
How the Trump White House tries to sell war and death as a game ~ FT
"Declassified footage spliced with cartoon and action movie clips seeks to glorify US military prowess. The White House has found a new recruit to sell the US war on Iran to an increasingly skeptical American public: Sponge Bob Square Pants. https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/2029657893155311927
After a moment's hesitation I fully see the logic behind the propaganda use of Sponge Bob Square Pants in Trump's war. On the basis that you have to tailor your delivery to the recipient -- it represents a sad commentary on the mindset and abilities of MAGA Americans.
Of course the big stick the USA holds right now is Kharg Island.
We've destroyed all the military targets on the island. That leaves the oil assets completely vulnerable. 90% of Iran's oil goes through Kharg Island. We can absolutely decimate their economy, anytime we want to.
"We can do that on five minutes' notice. It'll be over. But for purposes of someday rebuilding that country, I guess we did the right thing, but it may not stay that way," Trump told reporters Monday. "Just one simple word, and the pipes will be gone too, but it'll take a long time to rebuild that."
Trump also hinted...
"At some point, something's going to happen that's positive with respect to those pipes," Trump said, without elaborating.
It might be he is planning, or thinking about, seizing the infrastructure rather than obliterating it.
Unbelievable. America's wife has been writing checks for this country to cash for decades and people have been saying as much for longer and the response is another sternly worded letter. You can't make this stuff up.
The time to put your foot down was yesterday. You'd think a multiple divorcee wouldn't be so squeamish about telling a name-dropping spendthrift egoist to fight her own battles by pounding sand. Literally.
God I hate that fucking place. It's filled with assholes. No wonder they found each other.
..The WS Journal has a bit of a different take, well reported, more believable..
the WSJ is no longer well reported or more believable about Any Thing that has to do with Trump. He is taking their cotton pickers, and THAT they can Not stand.
The WSJ is the most Anti Trump thing out there now.
ps gilbar was a paid subscriber to the WSJ from 1992 until 2025
Judge Smails: I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them.
Yeah, I'm about done. TSA workers haven't been paid for a month, but Trump only has one post on it and about ten on Iran yesterday. He's got to figure out how to do two things at once because the actual American people are being left behind.
Firing the people who understand the Middle East is a bad strategy for managing a war in the Middle East.
State Department cut jobs with deep expertise in Middle East as Iran crisis escalates ~ AP
AP follows the report on how the Trump administration had already gutted the State Department’s staff of Middle East policy experts — and “eliminated the dedicated Iran office ..”
Maybe this war will expand the Abraham Accords, with more Arab countries recognizing Israel and normalizing relations.
Current signers...
Israel
UAE
Bahrain
Sudan
Morocco
Senior UAE official says Iranian attacks will drive Gulf countries into Israeli arms
The UAE has faced more Iranian attacks than any other country. Since the start of the war, the UAE has intercepted 327 ballistic missiles, 15 cruise missiles, and 1,699 drones, according to the Gulf state’s defense ministry. Two UAE soldiers have died in the war, as have six civilians, with another 158 wounded.
“We’re not seeing 2,000 Israeli missiles and drones targeting us,” said Gargash. “We’re seeing 2,000 Iranian missiles and drones targeting us.”
That's kind of a shock! Who would have guessed that the Iranians #1 target would be another Islamic state? Why on God's green earth would you attack UAE more than Israel?
I suspect it's because the UAE has signed the Abraham Accords. And Israel and/or the USA has provided missile defense to them. Anyway, the vast majority of those 2000 drones and missiles have been shot down.
Apparently, the mullahs deepest hatred is not for Jews or Christians, but for Muslims who opt for peaceful existence with Jews and Christians.
"He's [Trump] got to figure out how to do two things at once because the actual American people are being left behind."
Trump’s Golden Age of paying a lot more for everything.
rehamj, you act like this place is a haven for open minded discussion.
The attack was on a handful of onshore processing facilities that supply gas for powergen in Iran. The reserves are undamaged and those facilities isolated. If the LNG trains are attacked, this would be a major escalation - those are refrigeration type facilities that create liquefied methane for LNG export. Iran doesn't export LNG, but Qatar does, a lot. Guessing the Israelis are trying to drive social upheaval by cutting off the power.
Birches said...TSA workers haven't been paid for a month, but Trump only has one post on it and about ten on Iran yesterday.
It's the Democrats' fault, so you might think Trump would be pounding that drum, but people hate the TSA, so he can only do it indirectly--Democrats are cancelling your spring break plans.
My theory of history is that there is no theory of history. It's a quantum event. It's random. Some events are probable, but they're not deterministic. The French Revolution was probably going to happen, but having a military genius like Napoleon appear in its midst was random. No Napoleon, no Napoleonic Wars.......We'll see how this plays out in Iran. As a general rule though, in that neck of the woods, things always go from bad to really, really bad. That's kind of deterministic. Anything you do, including choosing to do nothing, works out for the worst. The roulette wheel is still spinning, but it's a roulette wheel that has more zeroes and double zeroes than winning numbers.
So in other words, Trump is Bibi's bitch and can't control Israel. Even though they couldn't survive one day without our constant gifts of $$ and our military protecting them.
And Trump's threat to destroy all of Iran's gas/oil fields makes little sense. If he wants to destroy the US/World Economy and see Oil go up to $150/barrell - go for it.
Why can the will of the people overthrow the Shah, the Czar, Louis XVI but be utterly cancelled by the Mullahs, Stalin, and Napoleon
Oh course, yeehaw 'mericans will go "woo-hoo" if we destroy Iran's gas/oil production resulting in the destruction a large part of the other persian gulf gas/oil fields. Then they'll cry about the price of gas at the pump, and wonder why their stocks aren't going up.
“ Firing the people who understand the Middle East is a bad strategy for managing a war in the Middle East.”
I wouldn’t trust the people in the State Department who “understand the Middle East” to find their own way home on the bus.
Especially if they’ve been there for more than six weeks.
They’re the ones who got us into this mess.
Watching the press conference now. Sec. Hegseth and Gen. Cain are so, so impressive.
This is Epstein's war. A war for Israel - and we're suffering for it. We get nothing out of attacking Iran or destroying persian gulf oil/gas fields. Tucker's interview with kent more or less proves it.
But our Congress if full of Lindsey graham and Ted cruz types who went into Congress to serve and love Israel. So, I don't think Trump will be restrained from doing it. And Judge Boasberg is Jewish, so we can't count on him nor any of our other Kings in black robes to save us.
Who knew that when we went to Trump rallies and waved American flags we should have been waving the Israeli one?
Jon Stewart on the Iranian bar fight.
This is Epstein's war.
oh shit that was so funny
Epstein's war?
the pimp did it?
Can you give me some chain of events to explain how Epstein's corpse is to blame for this?
“ Apparently, the mullahs deepest hatred is not for Jews or Christians, but for Muslims who opt for peaceful existence with Jews and Christians.”
Sounds a lot like the democrat communist party.
I may be little slow this morning but can somebody tell me what RSM is talking about?
Open and transparent negotiations
William said...The French Revolution was probably going to happen, but having a military genius like Napoleon appear in its midst was random.
The specifics of how something plays out may be unpredictable, but the overarching themes are not. There are lots of Napoleons, lots of Hitlers, lots of Henry Fords and Robert Oppenheimers out there and when the time is right, one of them will appear. That's the pseudo-great man theory of history. Great men drive great movements, but the specific great man is just a cog, a widget, replaceable.
As for the Middle East, if we can crush the regime without crushing the infrastructure such that a new more western-friendly government can be constituted without an intervening reign of terror (my preference being a constitutional monarchy with the Shah providing stability and an elected parliament running the country), look what's happened--more oil flows, terror money dries up, peace between Israel and its neighbors. The whole unsolvable mess could actually be solved in just a few short years.
Does that make Trump the indispensable man, thus supporting the great man theory? Maybe. You can't run it twice so we'll never know if he's the only one who could force all the moving parts to move together. But history suggests no, lots of people have the will and the talent and sooner or later one of them would step up.
Just incredible that either Trump administration would sanction an attack on south pars or that israel would strike without Trump’s knowledge
Have we asked the winner of the FIFA Peace Prize or the Board/Bored of Peace to step in and resolve this situation?
LOL, Trump doesn't control Israel. They want chaos in the entire Middle East so that they are the only remaining functional state, and then Huckabee's dream can come true.
But who could possibly understand why Iran would strike at US owned facilities in countries where US forces are based, and which have been allowing their land and airspace to be used in the mass assassinations and bombings of their country?
It just doesn't make any sense! I know that the ChiComs provided satellite pictures of US military aircraft in Saudi territory, and there was that F-35 that forgot to turn off its transponder, and you could see on FlightRadar that it was using Saudi airspace, but come on...
I think that a lot of the commenters here, well they can't really be this stupid, so I think that they are just modeling stupidity, you know, so that the people who really are stupid enough to believe this propaganda will have words to mouth.
But hey! Enjoy your dollar a gallon Zionism tax, while it's still this low.
The judge said, "I may be little slow this morning but can somebody tell me what RSM is talking about?"
Not everyone gets husband/wife metaphors. How about tails that wag the dog...better?
We pay they complain
The squirrels are on too many cups of expresso
Shorter Trump: "Message received, Iran; will behave better in the future and try to keep Israel under control, if I can."
The Emir of Qatar must have given Donald Trump quite the chewing out.
Qatari gas goes to Europes funds their soccer franchises
I have a very bad case of ME-fatigue, prognosis terminal.
Better not mess with Qatar. I hear they're thinking of giving me a second $400 million luxury jet. And, almost forgot, don't want anything to derail my $5.5 billion beachside resort project near Doha.
Trump is listening to Joe Kent
I dont trust the qataris but they were foolish to treat the iranian regime
@RideSpaceMountain: I disagree with the sentiment but it was a clever way of stating it.
RC wrote: This is Epstein's war. A war for Israel
If you really believe that, you have gone bonkers with your Jew hatred.
Of course tail wagging the dog is shorter, clearer - but not as imaginative.
RSM is spot on. Israel is acting like a mouthy cunt soon to be ex-wife who rages at a group of assholes talking in the movies knowing that her man has to back up her fight instigating words. Little Marco told the truth, initially:
Key Details of Rubio's Statement:
Israeli Action Was Inevitable: Rubio told reporters on March 2, 2026, that the U.S. was aware that Israel was going to strike Iran with or without U.S. involvement.
"Preemptive" Defense of U.S. Forces: Rubio argued that because Israel was going to strike, Iran would have retaliated against U.S. forces in the region. He claimed the U.S. struck first to avoid higher casualties, stating, "We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action... we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them... we would suffer higher casualties".
Israel is removing long term threat to the gulf the greater middle eaat and southern europe
Hezbollah howard
Also Sprach Marco
"The second question I’ve been asked is: Why now? Well, there’s two reasons why now. The first is it was abundantly clear that if Iran came under attack by anyone, the United States or Israel or anyone, they were going to respond and respond against the United States. The orders had been delegated down to the field commanders. It was automatic, and in fact it beared to be true because, in fact, the – within an hour of the initial attack on the leadership compound, the missile forces in the south and in the north for that matter had already been activated to launch. In fact, those had already been pre-positioned.
The third is the assessment that was made that if we stood and waited for that attack to come first before we hit them, we would suffer much higher casualties. And so the President made the very wise decision. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action, we knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces, and we knew that if we didn’t preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties and perhaps even higher those killed, and then we would all be here answering questions about why we knew that and didn’t act."
@the Judge: difficulty is understandable. I had to have grok explain it to me. I’m also slow (unfortunately not only in the morning)
...speaking of mouthy cunts
Looking in the mirror, howard
https://brusselssignal.eu/2026/03/russo-chinese-allies-disappear-a-seismic-shift-as-trump-puts-the-heat-directly-on-china/
I created the America's wife metaphor because it analogizes not only the realities of the relationship but certain cultural aspects as well. Judaism is matriarchal, in which the cultural, religious and ethnic legacy (which one takes precedence depends upon which one happens to be most advantageous at the moment) is passed through the mother. Judaism is inherently female and feminist, which helps psychologically explain a lot of the neuroticism.
America is the Roman legacy continued and personified, and Rome is masculine. Is it any wonder Bibi was reading Jews Against Rome?
Better than forgettable, Howard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD0XIowNAG8#ddg-play
Enigma your number four could not be more wrong. I had actually been thinking about this for at least the last month or two. The current Prime Minister is a weak spineless man who will do whatever he needs to do for a political benefit. For a long time, I thought of him as Neville Chamberlain. Neville Chamberlain however as far as I know, it was a patriot who loved Britain, but who was also weak and stupid. I see no evidence that the current Prime Minister loves Britain and wants to see her strong. He is just a feckless weak man. Neville Chamberlain was weak but a patriot. As far as I know.
Hes a dhimmi prime minister (to be charitable)
Excursion, you are cute. Firing all of the experts in Middle East politics was a mistake? Every time I see someone use the word experts I know he is a bit simple and gullible. Experts? Like the experts who ran Covid, but were wrong about every single thing? I mean there was pretty much nothing too small for them to make the wrong decision. However, they look like geniuses compared to so-called Middle East experts. The people who have made every wrong decision that you can make for the last 40 years? 80 years? At some point when the same people have been trying to solve the same problems for 40 years and 60 years and 80 years and it is evident they are failures. It is time for a new approach. Donald Trump and honesty should have received the Nobel peace prize for the Abraham accords. This is a development that no one thought possible. Peace without solving the Palestinian problem? Impossible set every expert
As the Poster says will all the people telling me it cannot be done get out of my way while I am doing it?
Excursion, you know that inflation has been essentially at its normal rate since Trump took over as president. Massive inflation occurred under Biden. It has been between two and 3% since Trump took over, just barely over what has been our targeted rate historically. It is not quite normal, but it is very close to normal since Trump took over. All the inflation that you are limiting occurred because of Biden. I assume of course you know the difference between inflation and deflation. I think that what you want is deflation, lowering of prices. Deflation generally is what economies are terrified of. Inflation is not good, but deflation is the destruction of an economy.
Hes a bobble head who scoops up the top layer of froth
This is an incredible must read post about Hormuz
https://x.com/johnkonrad/status/2034311772354592874
RCO - you have well documented that you are a Candace Owens or Tucker Carlson type of antisemite. We get it. At some point dial it down. Make it not so obvious.
In any case, Isreal is abundantly documenting that our providing them American weapons, which is what our support is, has more than paid off for itself. Israel is the only ally we have able to project power in the Middle East. The only ally. There are no others. And it is not just that they are effective. They are an extraordinary military able to do things about which we cannot conceive. Their intelligence is extraordinary.
Our financial support of Israel is nearly completely limited to providing them arms. Arms that have not been battle tested that they do the beta testing for us in the field so that we can see what works and what does not work. The benefit to America is in calculable.
It seems to me so obvious and so self evident that if you still hate Jews after this in general and of course Israel in particular either you really are not able to process data and come up with appropriate conclusions, which is a nice way of saying you are stupid or you just hate Jews so much in general and of course Israel in particular that you do not allow yourself to see this. Kind of like a clansman.
Bigger picture definitely
The problem is western politys dont care how much the people suffer
Maynard - he REALLY hates Jews.
C14 News Israel | EN on X: "🚨 Breaking: Senior Basij commander Bahman Farsani has reportedly been eliminated in an airstrike by US-Israeli forces. According to reports, Farsani was the direct target of the attack. https://t.co/H2d1NVcieK" / X https://share.google/bjU1x1sJe3n72ss98
this "HEADLINE NEWS" on the WSJ right now!
U.S. Gas Prices Hit Highest Level Since 2022
OMG! US Gas Prices hit HIGHEST LEVEL! (since Biden)
Remember! according to the WSJ; this is the HIGHEST PRICE EVER (that is, since Biden).
Tell me again how the WSJ isn't a biased piece of crap?
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-03-19-2026/card/u-s-gas-prices-hit-highest-level-since-2022-CuVDpJmKGzVE3KF4cgvM?mod=lctimeline_finance
Of course, Iran has always been America’s enemy since the Islamic revolution. Since they invaded our territory. Since they have been kidnapping, our citizens, torturing Americans, and murdering Americans. They are responsible for a great deal of our soldiers killed in all fields, including specifically Iraq.
This should have been done in 1979, but we did not have the technical ability that we have now, the world was more multipolar, and of course, the one strong president that we had since 1979 had his hands full with Russia.
I think every American patriot should be happy finally fighting back against Iran. Finally repaying this debt that we have owed since 1979.
A couple of people here love America less than they hate Jews I think genuine patriot should be happy. We are finally repaying this blood debt that we owe to all of America in general and to our soldiers in particular to avenge them.
To my mind when your take on things is the same as Mamdani- like RCO - it’s probably wrong.
Some of the anti Israel sentiment (not all) comes from this: “if they want to be our friends, what’s wrong with them.”
America has been so vilified these last 10 years primarily by fellow Americans, it’s hard not to internalize all those negative feelings.
Money Manger said...
The WS Journal has a bit of a different take, well reported, more believable
Nothing political in the WSJ has been "well reported", let alone "believable", in many years. Which is why I finally dumped my subscription some years back
DEMOCRATS are 100% to blame for TSA not being funded.
Dems love punishing people
https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2034606027375563091
Go get yer shine box, jimmy numbers @8:28am.
Well he doesnt dissapoint
The End of Trumpism
https://spectator.com/article/the-iran-war-is-likely-to-mark-the-end-of-trumpism/?edition=us
We've moved directly into the late stage of administrations when they abandon frustrated attempts at domestic change and turn their attention abroad.
Was there some "imminent threat" from Iran even after the earlier air strikes? That contention looks shaky, so we fall back on the "47 years of war" argument. If there was no imminent threat, and this was indeed a war of choice, shouldn't we have waited until after the midterms, and after domestic reform efforts here had been given more of an opportunity?
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On the great man theory of history:
Trump as Alexander the Great: A Theory That Explains Iran (And Everything Else)
Hegel figured it all out 200 years ago.
https://www.notus.org/perspectives/trump-as-alexander-the-great-a-theory-that-explains-iran-and-everything-else
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Judaism or Jewishness as feminine is a diaspora conception that Zionism rejects and wishes to overturn. Not much feminine about Netanyahu. Even the emotionality is filtered through bluntness.
Kind of lame one can walk and chew gum and except the possums have problem with the second
It's amusing that all of the retards here who supported doddering fool BIDEN think it's TRUMP who, as president, needs to be told by others what to do (Russia, Israel, or whomever).
Consider the possibility that the US Navy is deliberately taking its sweet time opening the Strait. Why?
The world oil price is fracturing into falling prices for countries (and also US states) that have oil and increasing prices for importer nations (and some blue states) who rely on ships. Shipping rates are increasing because of a tanker shortage due to ships trapped in the gulf.
Trump lost one tool of economic leverage recently, tariffs. But he found another, control over the Strait of Hormuz and thus over the price of oil in Europe and Asia and around the world.
Threats from Iran are not the only thing keeping tankers out of the Strait. Ship insurance was cut off.
Trump set up a mechanism to provide insurance to the tankers after the conventional insurers cut them off, but there are some catches and this mechanism hasn't kicked in. Without insurance, the ships can't sail. Trump could allow his US Government insurance to kick in any time he wants, but he hasn't.
The whole situation gives Trump some serious economic leverage if he plays it right.
Just some interesting speculation I've been reading.
"Eva Marie said...
Some of the anti Israel sentiment (not all) comes from this: “if they want to be our friends, what’s wrong with them.”"
Who are the people or types of people that you think have this kind of motivation to distrust Israel? Thinking negatively of America and therefore negatively of countries associating with America sounds more Left Wing to me. But in my estimation when the Left has dislike of Israel it is because they view Israel as strong and powerful and therefore the bad guy vis a vis there interactions with Muslims generally and specifically the Palestinians who they view as weak and downtrodden and therefore the good guy. When people on the Right dislike Israel it is because they view Israel as manipulative and self-interested.
There’s a kind of inverse correlation between the level of stupidity and the level of intelligence. The greater one’s intelligence, the greater potential for immense stupidity. Plain old, stupid people can only do plain old, stupid things. Highly intelligent people however, can attain levels of idiocy the merely stupid could never imagine.
He has told Iran just what he holds dear. Of course they will respect that.
Worst war coverage ever - Don Surber https://share.google/t82R3Bz4rs2Zz61oI
Howard, c'mon mate. You speak so highly of the young ladies you swim with, so I know you respect women. That was a bit much. CC, JSM
The Vault Dweller said, "When people on the Right dislike Israel it is because they view Israel as manipulative and self-interested."
Because it is and its manipulation is long and well-documented. To @Eva Marie's point, there are TONS of people that genuinely hate Jews and by default hate Israel. Those people are not rational. There's also tons of people that are indifferent to Jews but critical of Israel if not otherwise indifferent. Criticism and indifference are not hatred, and allies can be and are critical of each other all the time.
I want to know why there are so many Jews and Israelis that only think in binary ones and zeros - that if you're not Israel's friend then you must be its enemy. That indifference and criticism of being manipulated - especially after decades of doing metric fucktons to prop up what can't support itself - is hatred and anything outside of complete and ever-lasting support represents double-secret-global-anti-semitism.
@TVD: No, it’s on the right as well. Republicans call it battered wife syndrome. In the BeforeTrump era, Republicans were so beaten down by Democrats that they would turn on their own. It’s the reason so many on the right were antiTrumpers.
Bob Boyd: Peter Zeihan on Prof G's podcast last week implied that the February 20th SCOTUS tariff rebuke was part of the reason for Trump attacking Iran. He sees the choking of the choke point as a direct attack on China's economy.
LBJ thought he could "walk and chew gum" at the same time. So did GWB. They couldn't. There's a famous old quote about Woodrow Wilson lamenting on the night before taking America into the Great War that it would mean the end of his domestic agenda. The quote was made up, but the prophecy turned out to true prophetic for Johnson and Bush -- and now maybe Trump. Even if the administration was willing to continue to push through its domestic agenda while waging war, voters will have lost their patience with rising oil prices and broken promises and would deprive Trump of the opportunity to follow through.
Plus where does the conversation go when all the labeling is done? I don’t understand the value if it.
DCherry's link on Hormuz ... Fascinating speculation. Divergence in oil prices gives the US a lot of leverage. And narcisco thanks for your link as well.
The Brits can't send ships to Hormuz. They don't, or didn't a couple weeks ago, have any that were capable of getting underway is less than a couple weeks.
But the Admiral Brown is on its way! Actually ARA Almirante Brown, of the Argentine navy. Named for another of the Irish heroes of the wars of independence from Spain.
William Brown is an interesting fellow, started as a cabin boy wound up founding the Argentine navy.
OT: Does he count as an "hispanic"?
John Henry
Look at how hard it is to get anything through Congress -- and past the courts. Even less would be possible if Trump's focus were on this war. To Johnson we could add Nixon who got so tangled up in international affairs that his administration never really got off the ground. Even more successful presidents, like FDR and RWR gave up their domestic projects for international ones. Why have a war of choice when there is so much to be done at home? If this isn't resolved soon, it could mean Democrat gains in the midterms, the effective end of Trump's presidency, and perhaps another impeachment.
RSM said...
.."there are TONS of people that genuinely hate Jews and by default hate Israel. Those people are not rational.
There's also tons of people that are indifferent to Jews but critical of Israel"..
Then there's gilbar. gilbar is indifferent to Jews, but Loves Israel
How dangerous is the strait of Hormuz right now? We have a lot of naval assets, it is a fairly small area, Iran is very degraded. It would seem to me, and I've seen nothing to contradict this, that the actual danger to tankers is small.
Not zero, of course. And because it is not zero, the insurers refuse to write insurance. So it is not munitions stopping the flow of oil as it is paperwork.
And virtually none of the oil goes to the US and even less is in US flagged tankers.
Do we really care if the strait ever reopens?
Yeah, gas is at 98 cents here and I hate it as much as anyone else. But we can live with that for a month or even a couple years.
I thought high gas prices were a good thing, forcing people into Teslas and solar farms. Apparently not.
John Henry
Hello Don, who's sock-puppet are you? Or maybe I should call you Mark Levin.
Anyway, you need to start making arguments instead of old tired smears and insults. But yeah we get it. You don't like anyone who disagrees with you. Noted.
Here's a link to Tucker's interview with Joe Kent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cbw1utqzHg.
But of course, Kent is an antisemite who hates Israel. which is why trump chose him to be National Counterterrorism Center - LOL.
BTW, the US navy can't operate in the Straits unless we can sweep Iranian mines and stop Iranian missles for hitting our ships. The straits are narrow, shallow, and about 100 miles long.
Its too bad the Saudis and Gulf Arabs jumped into bed with Israel, they're now paying the price. They fucked up. They trusted the USA. And Jared Kushner.
I don't understand the imminent threat/war of choice distinction. The imminent threat is nukes. That threat will exist as long as the current regime is in place no matter how many bombs over what period of time. As long as the threat of nukes exist imminent or not, it's not a war of choice.
Laz: "FDR...gave up... domestic projects for international ones."
Didn't the war save the New Deal? Forced the R's to support an all-encompassing industrial policy. Employed 12 million prime work age men at low cost, by drafting them. Primed the manufacturing pump, and blew up our international competition, for the postwar boom. Started to weaken Jim Crow, which was keeping a huge chunk of the country in economic backwardness.
Without the war, there would have been more and more people doing less and less, at ever-inflated prices.
Not saying FDR deliberately went to war to save the economy. But he definitely saw the connection. CC, JSM
Imminence inflation.
"We voted for trump because of his policies" MAGA members. Another couple days with these "very best policies" The Dow wll be back after 15 months where sleepy Joe handed it over 43,400, them is some great policies. AMERICA FIRST con (he meant Venezuela,Greenland,Iran,Cuba etc) as we are in another ME war, Americans dying again, US DEBT at 39 trillion ($39,000,000,000,000) and counting, Illegal unconstitutional tariffs needed to be paid back, and you better get a scooter to ride to ALDI'S(2ND HAND FOOD STORE) for nourishmentroomful of incompetents running the asylum while rome burns and nero is golfing! C,mon man Beaucoup Dinky Dau! 8 months to put this perp in the back room to stop the bleeding. Dear Lord we know you can be humorous but this aint that funny but as always YOUR will be done!
@ Howard
I've been saying in comments for a while now that this is ultimately about a lot more than Iran and oil. Thinking it's about Israel is tunnel vision a lot of folks have.
It's about China, about Taiwan, about rare earths, AI, maritime choke points. It's about leverage. Iran is China's proxy. So was Venezuela. China uses every tool it can. We must too. We must come out on top. We must control the future. If China controls it, the world will become a dark, dark place for a long, long time.
Peter Zeihan is a vehement neverTrumper so I take anything he says in that light. Framing this as a direct attack on China is an anti-Trumper, Trump is always the bad guy type framing which is on brand for Zeihan.
China is making direct attacks on our economy on multiple levels all the time and has been for many, many years.
I think Zeihan's stuck in the past, stuck on the idea that we can just make China into another version of America by trading with them. He's invested in that view reputationally and probably financially as well. But No. Instead, China will make us into another version of China and they're well along in that project. Unless we stop them. And who is going to do that? The Dems? The neverTrump GOP with their learned helplessness?
I'm not saying that Trump planned this whole Iran thing. More likely he has reacted to developments (like the impending shipment of Chinese hypersonic missiles to Iran that we don't have the technology to be able to intercept) and he is seizing on events as they unfold to create leverage and turning what he can to America's advantage. But who knows? He did take down China's western hemisphere proxy Venezuela and now Cuba. Maybe he's more visionary than he gets credit for. Time will tell.
Whenever I hear someone being called a visionary, I immediately think of the Derek Smalls line in Spinal Tap.
Maybe Trump is the fire, Rubio is the ice, and JD is….lukewarm water? No, gotta give JD more credit than that. But he would understand and appreciate the reference! CC, JSM
They are an extraordinary military able to do things about which we cannot conceive. Their intelligence is extraordinary.
I have read that Israel has immersive cultural-social-linguistic training centers for teaching Arabic and Farsi to its operatives, where the instructors were originally all Jews from Iran or the Arab world that were expelled after the founding of Israel, and where all the signs are in Arabic or Farsi, and everyone speaks nothing but Farsi or their assigned dialect of Arabic all day long, to the point that they can go and live in the country where that language is spoken and pass as natives. These are some of the brave individuals who are currently sending the coordinates of every Revolutionary Guard barracks and religious-police checkpoint back to Israel so the lurking drones can vaporize them.
They also have the best cyber-warfare and document-forgery operatives in the world.
Don’t forget your coupons, Dinky! Or that you were trespassed from Aldi’s for one year on account of the shoplifting.
Their intel and tradecraft is top-notch no doubt, but the sayanim are the real force multiplier, without which they'd be nowhere near as effective. The transnationally unaccountable diaspora is the actual hand of Israel manipulation, not the source.
Iran lashing out at other ME nations ought to confirm to the world, even the mediaswine, how evil the regime is. Iran is an outlier. Gaddafi predicted Islam would conquer the West “without firing a shot.” Look at Europe. It was going well until Iran’s proxy invaded Israel on October 7th.
Thanks i try to bring some light to the matter
The journal swallowed every lie from the gaza health ministry
Unit 8200 is top knotch, its curious than dan slilva has abandoned the work of gabriel allon
I'm not happy about $4/gallon gasoline again, but only as it pertains to the midterm elections.
Personally, it is a windfall for me. I've got quite a lot of interests in oil-patch syndicates in Oklahoma and Texas and North Dakota that were barely paying out when oil was in the 50s and 60's, but will be printing money with oil above $100. Glad I stuck it out. There's a month or two of lag time, but I expect to be seeing some $10,000 royalty checks soon enough.
If the war ends promptly with the overthrow of the mullahs, and the oil infrastructure of Iran is not seriously damaged, the price will briskly fall to levels not seen since the days of COVID. My royalty checks will disappear and I might even have to give some of it back in a capital call. And I will be delighted, because it means we will be kicking the living shit out of the Democrats in November, which is the top priority. Nothing is as important to the survival of the nation as inflicting permanent, crippling harm on the leftist enemies of humanity.
Hassayamper - yes, young Israel is rather brown, and grew up with Arabic or Persian spoken at home. Very easy to train them up as undercovers or The Americans-style ‘illegals.’ CC, JSM
Kent is tripping on his previous statement going back. To 2020
Did kent leak to the usual suspect as ms clown and cannot news
imTay: “I think that a lot of the commenters here, well they can't really be this stupid, so I think that they are just modeling stupidity….” It’s not stupidity, Muhammad. We just don’t see the world as you do - through the Eyes of Alice in Wonderland. Also, trolls have never fared well here because the commenters and the hostess have a low tolerance for actual stupidity.
People against this action, and virtually all other action, never explain how their preferred nonaction would give better results in the long run. In fact, they never discuss any outcome from their policy preference. They just assume, with zero reflection or planning that it will go well. That's convenient.
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-today-dow-sp-500-nasdaq-03-19-2026/card/how-high-would-oil-have-to-climb-to-trigger-a-u-s-recession--tuCdjcPSWEmHycrT8tA4?mod=lctimeline_finance
that's today's ("non-biased") WSJ fanning the flames of war worry
Oil prices are SO HIGH! (as high as the Biden era), that RECESSION is certain!
and How High would it have to go? to trigger this "recession"
$138.
which, by the way, is lower than it was in O'Bama and Bush
(NOT adjusted for inflation)
think about that, the next time you hear someone say that the WSJ isn't a biased piece of shit
WWI was a problem of European reorganization. WWII was a problem of National Socialist progressivism and globalists poking Japanese imperial ambition. Vietnam was not our problem. Neither was Korea. Serbia was not our problem. Certainly not Libya. Kiev is a thorn in the Ukrainian edge. The first Iraq war was not our problem. It's continuation under a ceasefire and no fly zone, too, until it's fateful abortion under GWB. Obama's Iran-Hamas Affair was a self-own with forward-looking consequences. The last American war was probably the Spanish-American war. Certainly the Civil War of DEIst legacy. Oh, and, of course, the war on our Posterity. Think of the babies!
The ethnic Springs during the Obama administration with millions in collateral damage were a Novel Pieces problem.
Catturd ™ on X: "LOL - the community note. 😂 https://t.co/8ncLJQ0mT2" / X https://share.google/nrsBgHOwzGilF3euw
Dave Begley writes: Watching the press conference now. Sec. Hegseth and Gen. Cain are so, so impressive.
Another joke of a “press conference” is over with Hegseth calling on one right-wing hack after another while ignoring real journalists in the room.
Despite Hegseth’s bravado this morning, the last 24 hours are clearly the worst for Trump’s folly, with massive refineries hit in multiple countries. The impact on the US and global economy is going to be brutal and affect every American. This war is a disaster.
Real journalist (i needed a good laff ritmo)
Unit 8200 = Long Night in Paris (on Amazon) by Dov Alfon
Venezuela, Iran , Cuba
Free the people
Nazis and Islam had common cause.
Same with leftism / communism and Islam
Donald you absolute madman...just when we think things are spinning out of control you go off and razz the Japs and TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!
Mark said...
"rehamj, you act like this place is a haven for open minded discussion."
It is, Mark. Unless you're just going to regurgitate the days lefty talking points.
Have you ever offered a thought of your own?
Trump has not lost his tool of the tariff. He'll just need to use different law(s) behind it than the one invalidated for that purpose by the recent Supreme Court decision.
Mark said..."rehamj, you act like this place is a haven for open minded discussion."
Have you been shut down? No.
People don't agree with you. Poor you.
People against this action, and virtually all other action, never explain how their preferred nonaction would give better results in the long run. In fact, they never discuss any outcome from their policy preference. They just assume, with zero reflection or planning that it will go well. That's convenient.
No, they made a good case that the Iraq War wasn't necessary given existing procedures, and that a war at that time could be a disaster. Similar with Libya and other interventions. Maybe that will turn out to be the case with this war.
This is American Euphoria act III -- the idea that we can "solve" every problem once and for all through military action. Acts I and II didn't go so well.
JSM: That's an interesting take. In some ways, the war did help fulfill (in part) FDR's agenda, but when you look at his hostility towards the business class early on and how he was forced to bring in the businessmen to win the war, it does look like there was a u-turn there.
There's Rusty and O Mike, right on cue, with the insults.
Thanks for proving me right, guys.
RideSpaceMountain said..."America's wife has been writing checks for this country to cash for decades …"
I still don't get it. Israel has been writing checks for America?
Doing nothing is still choosing a course, a policy. That has ramifications too, regardless of if you have good arguments against taking action. Both have outcomes, but only those suggesting action are asked to justify their choice, which they should, but it's usually one-sided. It's just human nature to argue that way, but it's incomplete, and as I said, convenient for one side.
I have not heard the argument for how leaving the radical Islamic regime to develop ballistic missiles, and continue their military buildup, including nuclear, would not be a worse outcome than what Trump is trying to do. Their plan was war with Israel, which would kill many more innocents than this will, and it would draw us in anyway on their terms rather than ours. In that case, it would not be surgical and it would not be planned on our side. It would be a catastrophe. That's what Trump is trying to nip in the bud, when it's best for us, and incidentally not great for him, unless it's very successful..
"Venezuela, Iran , Cuba
Free the people"
"How dare you!" ~ Greta T.
"I have not heard the argument for how leaving the radical Islamic regime to develop ballistic missiles, and continue their military buildup, including nuclear, would not be a worse outcome than what Trump is trying to do."
I think their argument (not mine) is that Iran would never use them.
(continued)
The "not an imminent threat" crowd argue we can wait until the last minute.
Others argue it's Iran's right and we just have to live with the consequences.
I think I've covered the bases.
Thanks for proving me right, guys.
Um, no. You're proving them right.
Nobody here is shutting you down. Offer up an original thought for a change and see what happens?
How was what I said an insult, Mark?
If all you're doing is coming here to deliver the days leftist talking points then you deserve ridicule. We are not that stupid. Come up with an argument you can defend.
That's all anyone here has ever asked.
"I think their argument (not mine) is that Iran would never use them."
I'm not pretending to know anything, but it seems to me that they intended to use them as a threat to control the region at will. Israel would understandably not let them just continue to build up and later add nukes. War would be inevitable, and we would be dragged in. When it happens, Iran would be far stronger than now, and we would not be fighting on our terms but theirs. Millions of innocents would likely die, including our people in far greater numbers than how we are doing it now. Add to that the killing the regime is doing to prevent being overthrown, and the risk of them getting off an attack on us while we are weak in the region. Then add the need to reduce Chinese and Russian influence that's at our expense, and you have a lot more than just Trump is Israel's lapdog. The best time was now, even if Trump promised otherwise. He saw an opportunity and a duty that would be foolish to ignore. Damn the short term politics. I think his critics are missing most of this on purpose, or just can't get past the simplistic talking points.
Mark's just hangdog because his pronouncements of Twitter/X's demise were so egregiously wrong.
I feel so bad for people who have TDS. You miss out on the wonderful Trumpisms and Truth. As a consolation prize you should be gifted a "i swallowed it all" CNN t-shirt.
Europe in 1914 was so focused on the 'horrors' that would happen if they didn't go to war that they rushed into the real horrors of the First World War and its consequences.
Similar with Vietnam. The talk was all about what would happen if we didn't intervene. Maybe that talk was right and outweighed objections, but the government completely ignored what those objections and counterarguments were. It's not historically the case that critics and objectors have generally been heard and heeded more than enthusiasts for war.
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