Said RFK Jr., at The Prayer Vigil for Charlie Kirk at the Kennedy Center.
Watch the entire vigil here:
१४ सप्टेंबर, २०२५
"Yesterday, my 17-year-old niece left for Europe to go to college. And while she was packing, her mother, Amaryllis, my daughter-in-law, noticed that she had put a Bible in her suitcase."
"And Amaryllis was curious about it. And she asked her, and Zoe said to her, 'I want to live like Charlie Kirk.' There are millions and millions of kids around the country who he inspired who now want to live like Charlie Kirk and that's a great thing for our country."
पोस्ट्स
४३ टिप्पण्या:
Not belittling this event at all, but I can't say that I am feeling the vibe. I didn't follow Charlie Kirk and his movement. I am cognizant, however, that while Kirk may be inspiring a certain level of revealing derangement in the Progressive Left, it would also seem that there are certain levels of opportunistic political capital being harvested on the right as well. I hope that the conservatives have the decency to honor him without a certain unseemly eagerness to advance their political cred.
Flying to Europe and being like Charlie Kirk.
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
The pendulum swings back. Prepare for 20 years or so of Christianity being the cool thing for kids to do.
le Douanier said...
Flying to Europe and being like Charlie Kirk.
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
We hear you. Kirk was a racist so you believe Kirk had to be killed. We understand what you are saying. We know you want enough of us dead so that you can seize power.
Notice how this piece of shit cannot be honest about the argument that Kirk made as well.
I know people who went to the grave saying Kent State was the turning point for them. I see stuff about the resisting the unsavory nature of ‘political points’ juxtaposed to prominent Democrats who seemed to be trying to say without actually saying Kirk’s been dead almost three days and Trump’s still President- what to we have to do? I get it now…
le Douanier said...
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
Thank you le Douanier for proving the corrosive effect of DEI. Now can we get back to merit based hiring rather than “equity” based?
Ach,
I don't know why yur gettin' so fussy. This post is about a gal getting on a plane and she wants to be like Charlie Kirk. Other than Charlie Kirk worrying about black pilots, do you know any other notable Charlie Kirk airplane facts? My comment will be the most relevant comment in this thread, unless there are other Charlie Kirk/airplane quotes that I don't know about.
"If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified.'"
DEIsm (e.g. racism, sexism, etc) is a toxic ideological spectrum disorder that has progressed under the Democratic umbrella corporation. Critical Diversity Theory and Cecile's Scalpel inform us that strict scrutiny is necessary to discern character, merit, etc. One step forward, three steps backward. #HateLovesAbortion
Yeah. Good ol' Charlie Kirk. What a Christian. What martyr. What good corpse. I'd like a little more passion about attacking and putting of Antifa and the violent Left in jail.
I hope that comes later. After we pay our respects.
I don't know how the daughter-in-law's child gets to be a *niece.* Seems more of a step-grandchild. I'd just say grandchild but maybe it's important to him to keep track of who has actual Kennedy blood.
Amaryllis was married to someone else and had 2 children with him before she married RFK III.
Kirk was aborted because he was deemed a "burden" h/t Obama. The assassin's Choice.
So, the I the plan. Derail to racism. Boomers arguing about who loves black people more. Adios.
le Douanier said...
Ach,
I don't know why yur gettin' so fussy. This post is about a gal getting on a plane and she wants to be like Charlie Kirk. Other than Charlie Kirk worrying about black pilots, do you know any other notable Charlie Kirk airplane facts? My comment will be the most relevant comment in this thread, unless there are other Charlie Kirk/airplane quotes that I don't know about.
Not really upset.
Just noticing that you think it was OK to kill Kirk because you think he was racist.
I appreciate the honesty.
@FormerLawClerk You've abused this forum. Don't post anymore.
I figured he was gummint trying to shut you down. The next sunrise photos will be the Ring video of the feds knocking tomorrow…
Ann, I'm trying to figure that out too. All I can figure is that she was married to another Kennedy family member when the daughter was born and when she became either grass or sod widda (old E. Texas expression for defining whether the former husband is alive (grass) or dead (sod)) the married RFK III. So, a cousin (not a niece, unless it was his brother) by lineage and a step granddaughter.
"Just noticing that you think it was OK to kill Kirk because you think he was racist.
I appreciate the honesty."
I have seen that you can operate at a very high/impressive level of blog blather. FTR, I mean that as a mega compliment. Doing that is always my goal.
But, you are not doing a good job here. I feel bad about being mean to you. But, on the other hand, maybe it'd be good to teach you a lesson so that you can be better in the future. If you want to type words that are true rather than type words that are bullshit:
When did I say that I think it was OK to kill Kirk because I think he was racist?
You have two options. 1) admit I never said that, or 2) be a POS.
https://youtu.be/66RveI2AAX4
How is it Not a Civil War?
"FormerLawClerk You've abused this forum. Don't post anymore."
It's your blog. I guess I shouldn't have quoted Democrats to rebut a racism claim?
GRW3, would it kill you to call her "Althouse," not Ann? Look at the masthead if you need a reminder. This is the Althouse blog, if you think you are in a correspondence situation w/ the gal at the helm....go w/ Althouse.
Plus she's specifically stated that that is how she wants to be referenced, because so many commenters here can't figure it out on their own.
Sheesh.
In Spanish/Hispanic custom, it is common to call a close non-relative an "Uncle" or an "Aunt" (Tito and Tita). Friends of the parents, etc. It seems quite natural to me, but I come from that culture. Hence a "neice", for social purposes, seems natural, to claim a reciprocal relationship on the part of her "Tito". Maybe RFK has absorbed some of that.
Dang! This incestuous family has been messing too much with our minds!
There's another good Spanish word - "pesado".
Its got a literal meaning and a social meaning. And for that there isnt really a good English translation.
Some of you guys are being pesados - annoying, socially inept, insisting on points the conversation has long since flowed past.
"In Spanish/Hispanic custom, it is common to call a close non-relative an "Uncle" or an "Aunt" (Tito and Tita)."
What is the Spanish/Hispanic custom re using a chainsaw to cut off the head of a whale, and then tie the head to the roof of your car such that during a five hour journey the whale's fluids end up reaching your actual children, never mind complicated familial relationship trees?
@buwaya, the custom of calling older family friends 'Uncle' or 'Auntie' is common in the Caribbean as well.
Ann Althouse said...
"I don't know how the daughter-in-law's child gets to be a *niece.*"
There are several people in my extended family and even non-relatives who call me "Uncle Biff". While I normally wouldn't refer to them as nieces or nephews, I can imagine scenarios where it would feel completely natural to do so.
As @buwaya suggested, maybe it comes more easily to some cultures than others. I can see it happening with my own extended Italian-American side of the family. I wouldn't be surprised if Irish-Americans may do it, too. Maybe loosely a Catholic thing?
le Douanier, you are beginning to define the concept of "pesado". The English language should steal the word (as it likes to do), to apply to such as yourself.
buwaya said...
“In Spanish/Hispanic custom, it is common to call a close non-relative an "Uncle" or an "Aunt" (Tito and Tita). Friends of the parents, etc. It seems quite natural to me, but I come from that culture.”
I suspect it is more of an overall Catholic thing. When the first of my high school/college friends - with German and Irish ancestry predominating - started having kids, we had the same pattern - until the kids starting having their own autonomy as teenagers and the title was dropped.
Biff,
That's quite an explanation. And you could be completely right. IDK.
OTOH, if you go hardcore bayesian, would you consider some nonzero percentage that Kennedy is a bullshitter such that we may not want to assume he's a good person doing good person things?
I'm just asking questions. Maybe you think there is a zero percent chance that we should doubt stuff that Kennedy says. Maybe you have one percent doubt. Maybe five. Ten? Fifty?
FTR, for me I Kennedy's words at zero percent believability. I also put every human at that level. Then I look to see what backs up or discredits what they say. How about you?
In my mother’s large - mostly German with some lesser amount of French and Spanish ancestry - family, anyone in a group “down” a generation or more is loosely referred to as nieces/nephews - as long as one’s direct progeny are not included in the group. Then the group as a whole is referred to as kids/grandkids. If a more precise explanation of the relationship is needed, it can be provided, of course.
Buwaya, while I like the word pesado I don't see any reason to replace the perfectly apt description of douchebag in this particular case.
le Douanier said...
“FTR, for me I Kennedy's words at zero percent believability. I also put every human at that level.”
I partially agree; you are completely not credible in my book.
"I partially agree; you are completely not credible in my book."
Yikes!
Sorry to belittle you, but you should have stated that you completely agree with me when I stated that nobody should be believed until you can test the correctness of their statements.
Instead you said that you disregard me completely, but you refuse to rigorously evaluate others.
I'm sure you thought you were doing some sort of accomplishment by stating that you are opposed to looking for validation in all situations, beyond your (w/ no evidence) declaring that I am not credible.
It is SAD! that you have nothing but empty words. You can point to exactly zero statements I've made that are not supported by reality. Unlike you, I don't make hyped up declarations. I bring receipts for what I type.
There was a time on this blog where every commenter was as careful as I am. None of this sloppy tossing out false accusations that is all over these threads now.
Rehajm: "I know people who went to the grave saying Kent State was the turning point for them. "
Intentional pun?
Either way, "one dead in U-u-tah" is going to be a major life event for millions of righties. Including new righties. CC, JSM
What if you knew him and found him dead on the ground? How can you run when you know? CC, JSM
You found best friends suddenly reading the Bible in the 50s, after Billy Graham. It didn't stick, I don't think. There was less soap opera supporting it in any case.
I hope that the conservatives have the decency to honor him without a certain unseemly eagerness to advance their political cred.
What I'm seeing from my religious friends - who don't inhabit political blogs, but do pay attention to what's going on - are tight jaws. Firm determination. I don't know where it will lead, but these are nice, God-fearing people who are pissed off.
I also didn't know how much of a reach Kirk had with the youth movement, but several of my friends mentioned their kids belonged to a local chapter at their schools. And those kids aren't particularly happy with what happened, either. To say the least.
I'm not religious per se (agnostic, at best) but I am political. I used to work in it (non-campaign). The vibe I'm getting is those religious people are about to get a lot more political.
Also, it cannot be understated at how shocked some people are at the reaction of the left over his murder.
I mean, they're blown away by people they've known for years. Friends, co-workers, distant family members who are making no secret of their joy at Kirk's death. It's been an awakening for a lot of them.
That will not be forgotten.
Things involving religion tend to go in cycles in the USA. We've had a couple of Great Awakenings in the 18th and 19th centuries. In the early and mid 1960s (before the Boomers got all het up about the Viet Nam war) Campus Crusade for Christ was a big thing on college campuses. On my campus the Campus Crusade for Christ guy looked and talked a lot like Charlie Kirk. He had the same youthful enthusiasm for "spreading the word". It wouldn't surprise me if a young person who'd come in contact with Kirk started to read the Bible
Charlie Kirk's death was an enormous event affecting all kinds of people. Materialistic political types just see how elections are going to be affected and very pure virginal people think that if poltical calculations are made this proves that nothing but politics + hyprocrisy is going on. But upstream from politics in culture and religion something has happened in people's lives. People who have been hiding their beliefs to keep their jobs or to get their degree have suddenly found out that that's what most people are doing. They're straightening up and taking deep breaths. They're feeling their hatred for HR and DEI and administration of every kind. They're wondering how to live. And Charlie Kirk had somethng to say about that, too. Read the Bible. Think about loving someone and building a family, a community, a country. If not that, what?
You think a huge change can't happen overnight and be real? Poland was transformed when John Paul visited simply because everyone found out that everyone hated the Communists and because John Paul proposed another way of living. (Read his book, Be Not Afraid if you are too much of a materialist or atheist to read the Bible. He had a message for those who have a conscience but who were raised under atheism.) Everything afterward in Poland was different because millions were different and it is very possible this is a similar event.
le Douanier said...
"Just noticing that you think it was OK to kill Kirk because you think he was racist.
I appreciate the honesty."
I have seen that you can operate at a very high/impressive level of blog blather. FTR, I mean that as a mega compliment. Doing that is always my goal.
But, you are not doing a good job here. I feel bad about being mean to you. But, on the other hand, maybe it'd be good to teach you a lesson so that you can be better in the future. If you want to type words that are true rather than type words that are bullshit:
When did I say that I think it was OK to kill Kirk because I think he was racist?
You have two options. 1) admit I never said that, or 2) be a POS.
Your problem is you don't have to say it anymore. Your actions are more important than your words.
WE don't care if you think we are POS. You have been calling us racist, fascist, authoritarian, threats to democracy, baby killers and whatever else for so long that we just don't care what you think.
Charlie Kirk was a good man who tried to talk to you people.
You shot him.
But even worse is that you are all still dancing on his grave and you still throw out your bad faith racism bullshit.
Really nobody cares how you people feel anymore.
Amaryllis was married to someone else and had 2 children with him before she married RFK III.
Thanks, I was confused. So RFK III put her in the cellar for a couple of months and had more children?
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