Jesse Kelly's "Sky Is Green" theory is a metaphor used on his show to describe situations where political or cultural institutions promote a narrative that is demonstrably false, forcing people to pretend to believe it as a condition of participating in society. Theory overview The theory asserts that powerful forces, which Kelly often refers to as "The System," deliberately spread false information and promote a herd mentality: Fabricated narratives: A lie is presented as truth, such as the idea that "the sky is green" when it is clearly blue. Enforcement of belief: Those in power demand public acceptance of the false narrative, and anyone who questions it is attacked, shamed, or ostracized.
Show him the photo and prove him wrong.
There was a rumor going around that Charlie Kirk was the guy in the internet "change my mind' memes. Apparently, that was Steve Crowder, but Kirk did like the phase "prove me wrong."
I delivered a eulogy for my mother In Wisconsin (passed at age 90) on Saturday. I came home to find that Charlie was assassinated.
The day before my mother passed I was at a wonderful funeral for my best friend in grade school and jr high. I get multicultural points from the lefties because he was Black and the service was at a Black church on the South Side of Chicago. It inspired my eulogy.
I hope to live forever, but mortality calls on us all some day. We can easily give in to the dark forces that want to take over our lives (more than they have already). But, I feel more inspired to fight against the dying of the light.
You all know where this is going. Don't compromise and don't give up. The left will enslave our grandchildren if we give up the fight.
Remember, we can't support gun restrictions. If we do, the federal government could occupy our streets, imprison people without due process, and send dissidents to foreign gulags.
"7,000 tips, videos and pictures submitted to the FBI."
I don't understand the 2 photos we've been shown; the guy isn't carrying a rifle. I don't know if this was supposedly him coming or going, but the killer should have been carrying a rifle both ways.
"The longer the manhunt goes on, the more I think it likely that the shooter had help.
If he didn't have help prior to the murder, he's certainly getting it now.
Somebody out there knows where this guy is; the transgender murder community is very small, but it's tight knit. They definitely want to help each other commit as many murders as possible against Americans.
Social Media is FULL, absolutely FULL of Democrats gloating over this win for their side. They absolutely believe that killing Americans is the only way forward for the Democrat Party to ever regain power.
Dramatic videos tonight of the shooter fleeing the Utah campus. Running across the rooftop. Dropping down to the ground from about 20ft. . Running after the drop across the street and off the campus where the gun was later discovered. Definitely young and in good physical condition. Not clear who took the video, but amazing that it followed his route from a fixed position until he disappeared across the street.
Also, FBI thinks he wasn't limping but in fact was holding on to the butt end of the rifle that was stuffed down his pants leg.
People don't hate transgenders (e.g. bisexuals, homosexuals, simulants). They hate Levine's Dreams of Herr Mengele to "treat" boys and girls passing through puberty who are confused or dissatisfied with their bodies' changes. They hate homosexuals grooming boys in schools, scouts, etc. They hate social liberals who celebrate nondiscrimination of wicked sexual orientations (e.g. pedophilia). They hate the wicked solution. They hate DEIsm (e.g. racism, sexism, etc). They dislike redistributive change schemes and the fiscal debt crisis they have forced.
WTH! Have we pissed off the Yakuza? He obviously knew the lower ledge was there and as soon as he got the second foot down and while handling the gun bag he jumped without hesitation and then he stuck the landing from ten feet. He stayed on his feet. That's really, really hard to do.
Placed on administrative leave: “A Secret Service Agent, in a Facebook post, said Charlie Kirk deserved to be assassinated. TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk, 31, was brutally murdered in broad daylight on Wednesday during an event at Utah Valley University. A gunman climbed up onto a roof and shot Charlie Kirk from an elevated position. Secret Service Agent Anthony Pough said Charlie Kirk, a Christian husband and father to two young children, deserved to be murdered in cold blood. “If you are Mourning this guy… delete me. He spewed hate and racism on his show,” Anthony Pough wrote.“
Make them pay: On Thursday, Senate Republicans triggered the "nuclear option" that was holding back many of President Donald Trump's nominations. Now things can get moving. Republicans triggered the "nuclear option" to change the rules of the Senate on a party-line basis Thursday, a move that will allow them to speed up confirmation of President Donald Trump's nominees for key executive branch positions. The vote was 53-45 to establish a new rule that allows the Senate to confirm an unlimited number of nominees en bloc, rather than process each one individually. The rule applies to executive branch nominees subject to two hours of Senate debate, including subcabinet picks and ambassadors
More gummies, Kakophoniat. No time for your concerns while folks are being assassinated for thoughts and stabbed to death on transit. There were some interesting discussions re vax recently, but Cloward/Pivening and slaughter pushed it into the background. Some concerning info on your cannabis product too, but it will pass under news cycle. Congrats.
Walter Kirn has been predicting, since the assassination of the United Health executive, that staged outrageous violence was going to ratchet up quickly in the coming months. Since then, we've had the Annunciation Church school shooting in Minneapolis by a deranged transgender, and then the Charlie Kirk assassination yesterday with transgender ideology involved, and then today the mass shooting at the US Naval Academy, still in early stages. And of course, in between we had Irina's death.
With the exception of the latter, each incident seemingly builds on various facets of the previous ones, establishing a connecting sense of motive and theme. The same is true of the reactions, although only one side uses the reaction cynically, unswervingly, to continue the provocation.
Armand D'Angour, professor of classics at Oxford, wrote a sonnet, 'completing' a line CK posted on X in 2013. He's on X (and Substack, too), under his own name.
Dramatic videos tonight of the shooter fleeing the Utah campus. Running across the rooftop. Dropping down to the ground from about 20ft. . Running after the drop across the street and off the campus where the gun was later discovered.
Back in the day jumping down from 20 feet without injury meant military jump school training. Do civilian skydivers get similar training? Or should the FBI look for ex-paratroopers?
Brainwashing from on high has gone out,,to the leftist loyalists who obey. Don't talk about Charlie Kirk's assassination and murder. No. no. Talk about Jan 6th. Obey the billionaire Prickster.
More from the Gateway pundit (the gentleman says it’s not him) https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/breaking-social-media-users-believe-they-may-have/
I don’t know why Kirk was murdered. I don’t know if the shooter was a political assassin, a lunatic stewing in bizarre ideological spaces, or just a deeply disturbed individual in a country with too many guns. Most likely, some combination of all three.
Obviously, if you are a police officer in Utah, an elected official with the power to enact legislation, or a reporter looking to find out the truth about the murderer or report on the political weaponization of this tragedy, you have an important democratically prescribed role. But for 99.99% of people, your role is to resist the “rational” impulse to turn a man’s murder into a battle of whose side is culpable. To play is to lose.
The only way to win is to stay grounded in truths we can all agree on: A man was murdered. That is horrible. A man was murdered. I hope the police catch the killer. A man was murdered. I wish things like this didn’t happen here. A man was murdered. I’ll pray for his family. ~Jerusalem Demsas
California Governor Gavin Newsome has called for more violence from the left. He's on video advocating for Democrats to literally punch people in the mouth. Actor James Woods highlights this video on his X channel.
…two Massachusetts teachers celebrating the murders on social media also placed on temporary paid vacation…er, administrative leave. How is it only two?
President George W. Bush didn't go on national television and tell Americans to tone down the rhetoric because that's what caused al Qaeda to fly aircraft into us.
Remember that next time some Republican urges you to extend your hand across the aisle and meet Democrats half way.
Charlie Kirk tried that approach.
They shot him in the throat while his wife and daughter was seated 12 feet away.
Don't be a victim.
George W. Bush told the nation that we would hunt down and kill every last person involved in 9/11 and we're still doing it 25 years later. Bush understood the power of retribution to keep people safe in the future.
"Remember that next time some Republican urges you to extend your hand across the aisle and meet Democrats half way.
Charlie Kirk tried that approach."
And he was very successful at that, he brought in many new Republican voters. That was why he was dangerous to your political opponents. Are you demanding your side abandon that successful approach to, what, chop up your neighbors with machetes?
Had we not been dragged through so many lies before I’d be much less concerned about the possibility seemingly benign high profile US entities are funding domestic terrorism….
…one of those PBS series on the 60s or whatever it was that delved into the weathermen et al, one dude is bragging on trying to publicly plant the seed for terrorism in a young disturbed mind so as not to have to do it themselves. SOP nowadays perhaps, coming from inside the house, so to speak…
Any criticism of Patel and Bongino’s failure to solve crimes must also acknowledge past FBI director Chris Wray’s failure to podcast and sell supplements.
Between the death of Charlie Kirk and the conviction of Jair Bolsonaro, it’s been a tough couple of days for the far right.
Kash Patel's dismantling of the FBI will make it harder to find Charlie Kirk's real killer. But it will make it easier to make some random liberal activist the lead suspect.
I just watched the three parter on bin laden. There were some candid details from the cia and administrations. The episode where Rummy and Pentagon saying they can’t attack for six months, Cofer from the corner of the room says we’ll have flies walking across their eyeballs in six weeks. W promotes him to mic, flies on the eyeballs guy…
Duh, he persuaded millions (apparently) of young men to vote Republican in 2024. That is effective politics. Thats why its important to your political side to find a replacement. You will never drive out or slaughter all the Democrats. Not even the Tutsi managed that with the Hutu (or vice versa). And the attempt will be disastrous. And "what language do you speak"? What nativist, know nothing bullshit is that? I am fluent in four languages.
Kak wrote, "It’s been a tough couple of days for the far right."
On the other hand, you have to hand it to the Democrats. They are winning. They are fighting a very successful guerilla war against the American people and getting away with it. Their strategy - known as "boil the frog" - is a quintessential guerilla war game theory. In that strategy, you eliminate your opponents leadership slowly, over time - never advancing too far so as to get your opponent committed to a full-scale war that you would lose. You slowly kill every leader aligned against you. But you do it over time. People tend to forget VERY fast. So within a decade or two, it's possible to alter the entire leadership structure of your enemy without even arousing passions.
It was a great day to be a Democrat yesterday. It was an amazing victory for them and they cheered very loudly at their successful operation all over Social Media content in the knowledge that - with few exceptions - they would suffer zero consequences.
I have a prediction if this guy is ever caught (and I don't think he will be): He will make more money on GoFundMe than has ever been handed over to a cold-blooded Democrat Party assassin.
His visage will replace Che Guevera on Democrat t-shirts across the land. Not since Luigi Mangione murdered the CEO of United Health will a killer be celebrated like this kid is going to be celebrated.
One day, Democrats will enshrine his birth and get a federal day-off holiday named for this kid.
No Democrats, including: Trump, Gabbard, Kennedy, Reagan et al. Our hostess: Althouse. Now is not the time to be caught in the DEIst tar pits. Politics, as with many things in life, is a spectrum phenomenon.
"You will never drive out or slaughter all the Democrats
We just haven't tried hard enough bro. We can be unburdened by what has been and enact a new future for ourselves and our posterity.
Abraham Lincoln disagreed with your philosophy. He understood that you have to kill a movement if you want it dead.
We need, once again, for our military to kill the Democrat Party, because it is a criminal organization. They violate every law we have on the fucking books. Americans eliminated the National Socialist Party in Germany because it too was a criminal organization. And we can do the same right here at home. The law, and simple morality, are on our side.
We must lay waste to everyone involved in it in the way that we did to Japan so that for generations into the future, nobody ever attempts to organize a criminal empire such as this ever again.
Just a brief thought about the comment somewhere above that if the assassin is caught there will be a GoFundMe for him. Please, please, please, please, please let that happen. DON'T pressure the company to block or take down the donations. Instead, arrest, try, and imprison all of those people under the Patriot Act for supporting terrorism. THAT would teach a very important lesson to precisely those who most need to learn it.
Larry Ellison and his son now own CBS. Ellison is a longtime Republican, currently the biggest conservative in Silicon Valley (really, since the passing of Bill Hewlett) and an early and large financial backer of Elon Musk. This is a big deal as CBS is a substantial chunk of the US MSM.
Repeating the solution in Japan, or following the socialists in Germany, in America, would be self-abortive. Fortunately, while the parties are divided, the majority are working to mitigate progress, and the "good Americans" are taking notes. Now is not the time for a wicked solution, to be trapped in the DEIst tar pits.
Regarding the influence of Charlie Kirk: I read a zillion news sources and consciously seek out left and right wing outlets. I literally did not know his name or his messaging until he popped up in the news a couple weeks ago. It seems that both his fans and his haters lived in specific media bubbles, and certainly not the largest media bubbles.
While Kirk may have influenced the 2024 election, the left has aggressively purged the conservative left like Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema, the domestic working class, whites, family-oriented males, biological females, non-Islamic religious believers, etc. The left's core supporters include "black and brown" single mothers who depend on government aid, manipulative billionaires and their bureaucratic functionaries, and the bohemian rainbow sex crowd.
As such, I don't believe that TPUSA or Kirk did much to "attract" males or biological females or sane centrists. People like Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., and Musk joined the 2024 Trump train despite little apparent overlap with Kirk's messaging. They all joined Trump after living through the Biden trainwreck for four years.
Trumpian big tent Republicanism is akin to the six blind men and an elephant.
Some of these Democrats are making worried noises and issuing platitudes in attempts to tame the wild animals that comprise what amounts to the majority of their political party, but have no fear… they’ll be back to screaming about fascists, Hitler and OUR democracy.
And the Ellison media company Paramount Skydance just made an offer for Warner Bros yesterday. They have more cash than the likely counter bidders. That could give the Ellisons a vast span of control of the MSM.
Sunny @sunnyright The people celebrating the assassination are just random nobodies like Washington Post staffers, people teaching your children, university professors, aides to elected officials, medical professionals, and prominent talking heads.
@Enigma, you read “a zillion news sources” and only recently encountered Charlie Kirk and Turning Point? Says something about your choice of news sources.
I agree with enigma .I have been a loyal Republican voter for 50 years. I never heard of Charley Kirk until he was shot. I suppose I live in as much of a bubble of my own.
…yah I’ll admit not following him too, the shorts of the him vs leftie would pop up from time to time. Think I saw an interview where he was calm and articulate…but that was about it. I don’t watch news so I suppose that’s part of the problem…
I was not a particular fan of C.Kirk, but I knew of him. He is/was all over Youtube and TikTok. He had an effective schtick going, directly attacking the university leftist consensus. This is a very big deal (see Andreessen on the subject).
"The volume of incitement here makes me think there’s a deadline.
Well, as you know Rehajm, Donald Trump is a dictator. And as such, he's President for Life. So we're not going to have any more elections. That's just the way it is now.
You've heard the stories from countless news organizations. They warned you that Democracy Itself was at stake if we didn't elect Joe Biden, or Kameltoe Harris (or whichever idiot they eventually put on the ticket without winning a single state race).
Well, I hate to tell you buddy, but the results are in: Democracy lost. We're a Dictatorship now. (We wanted to be a mere Republic, but that wasn't good enough for you people). So here we are.
So yes, there is a deadline. When the Democrats are stooping to trying to murder your Presidential candidate, there's a deadline. Getting shot in the head has a way of steeling the mind to the perils at hand, as I'm sure Donald Trump can attest to.
So yes, there's a deadline. Time is of the essence. We have a few short years to eliminate the threat to OUR country.
schtik: "Schtik" is a variation of the Yiddish word "shtik" (also spelled schtick or shtick), which means "a piece" or "thing" and refers to a comic routine, gimmick, or characteristic way of behaving. It can describe a performer's predictable or contrived act to gain attention, a person's repetitive mannerism, or a bit of clowning.
Note: I do not regularly follow TikTok, Instagram, X, Facebook and other short-attention-span soundbite media. Yes, I'm into long form Joe Rogan and other Youtube stuff.
Kirk's message was Christian and American: pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. It was anti-Diversity and pro-diversity. It was men and women equal in rights and complementary in Nature. It was free of Marxist, class, bloc ideologies. It recognized a distinction between homosexuals, bisexuals, and simulants in the transgender spectrum, between people of good faith and groomers, mad scientists, young and adult, etc. It acknowledged rights from our Creator and the necessary reconciliation with government, a representative Republican form of government.
"He had an effective schtick going, directly attacking the university leftist consensus.
Watch his videos on YouTube. He never attacked a single person. He would debate you. Respectfully, and never give a single inch to the Democrat narrative of the day. But he didn't attack people. He was very, very religious and always turned the other cheek.
It got him executed and now his wife doesn't have a provider and his kids are fatherless.
Not the path you want to go down.
Never forget the ruthlessness of the enemies of America. We don't need Democrats in the Republican Party, or in our country. We can expel every one of them. Make Exile Great Again. France didn't put up with Napoleon. They exiled him and we can do the exact same thing with Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama.
All it takes is the courage of our convictions and the willingness to seek permanent solutions.
As such, I don't believe that TPUSA or Kirk did much to "attract" males or biological females or sane centrists. People like Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., and Musk joined the 2024 Trump train despite little apparent overlap with Kirk's messaging. They all joined Trump after living through the Biden trainwreck for four years.
Trumpian big tent Republicanism is akin to the six blind men and an elephant.
This is actually an insane take.
If you think you search through many sources and you missed Kirk that is like saying you looked at basketball players and missed Lebron James. You are doing it wrong if this is true.
Charlie Kirk built the largest grass roots political movement that exists today. TPUSA has millions of people in it and they are overwhelmingly under 30. Kirk’s election events are bigger than CPAC now and happen multiple times in multiple places.
It was indeed how he attracted attention. He had a message to bring, but a simple lecture on campus wouldn't do it. His offer to debate anyone did bring the crowds. A debate is not really about that particular one on one verbal contest but its effect on the audience - ref Cicero, De Oratore (usually including several books on oratory, rhetoric and orators)
Kirk, Trump, Gabbard, Kennedy, Musk et al are complementary in a diversity of individuals, minority of one sense, sharing compatible principles, concerns, but not lock step. On one hand, on the other, always and forever. Adults set priorities and reconcile in families, communities, and nations.
JD Vance will be the next President of the United States.
His handling of the aftermath of the assasination of Charlie Kirk has been nothing short of historic.
He cancelled plans with his family to attend memorial services at the 9-11 Memorial in New York City (knowing Trump could handle that), and few immediately to Utah to attend to the wife of Kirk and their two young children.
Kirk's body was flown home on Air Force 2 and they are continuing to minister to his grieving widow and family.
Saintly schtick - Francis Xavier in India (Goa) would, famously, ring bells on the streets or the beach, to attract an audience, to whom he could begin to preach.
The Stop the Steal flag is flying at half mast outside the Alito home today.
Chuck is back to remind us that he thinks killing Kirk was entirely justified because he was a threat to democracy and somebody somewhere tried to steal the 2020 election.
Out of respect for Charlie Kirk, now is not the time to talk about the political violence wrought by right-wingers in the past three months. It is the time to talk about the political violence wrought by an ex-Bernie Sanders supporter eight years ago.
The next DOD constellation to be launched by SpaceX - the first was the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) constellation. https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/09/pentagon-begins-deploying-new-satellite-network-to-link-sensors-with-shooters/ This one is a communication satellite system, but with, ultimately @500 units and it will control weapon systems. SpaceX has become essential to US national strategy.
"The first 21 satellites in a constellation that could become a cornerstone for the Pentagon's Golden Dome missile-defense shield successfully launched from California Wednesday aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.
The Falcon 9 took off from Vandenberg Space Force Base, California, at 7:12 am PDT (10:12 am EDT; 14:12 UTC) and headed south over the Pacific Ocean, heading for an orbit over the poles before releasing the 21 military-owned satellites to begin several weeks of activations and checkouts."
YORDANIS COBOS-MARTINEZ was released from ICE custody by the Biden admin on 1/13/2025, one week before Trump took office, due to “no significant likelihood of removal in the forseeable future”. The Biden admin didn’t believe they could enforce his deportation order and remove him because Cuba doesn’t cooperate, and they did not conduct third party country deportations the way the Trump administration does. (sending aliens to countries they aren’t nationals of).
Cobos-Martinez has a prior criminal history of:
False imprisonment in CA (unknown disposition) Indecency with a child in Texas (dismissed) Grand theft of vehicle in Florida (dismissed) Carjacking & false imprisonment in CA (acquitted on carjacking, convicted of false imprisonment).
Disturbing surveillance video shows Cobos-Martinez allegedly kicking and picking up the victim’s severed head in the motel parking lot as it drips blood, before he places it into a dumpster. It reportedly all started with an argument with the motel manager, and the beheading took place in front of the victim’s wife and son.
About 20-30% of the population in the US is evil.
This includes anyone who still supports the Democrat party. The people who still vote for the democrat party are either evil or they are so stupid and lazy they should not be allowed to vote.
I will hazard a guess that the average age of commenters on this blog is over 60. Not Kirk's audience. I knew of him but had not paid much attention. His appeal was to younger people.
I think that if you live in a social milieu in which the sort of insane leftism that we criticize here is not only commonplace but dominant, Kirk's message is a beacon of hope and truth, an anchor of sanity in a world seemingly gone mad. Sort of a millennial Rush Limbaugh.
What a horrible thing this is. It does seem to have exposed to those not directly affected just just how awful the hard-core left belief system is.
Death is not the worst thing. Death is often the price of victory. Ask any Christian martyr. C.Kirk won indeed.
buwaya, thank you for this.
Even for non-believers, a person's life is so much more than the circumstances of her death. Are you going to say "Elvis lost" because he died on the toilet (as some lefty here kindly reminded us all recently, in the context of hoping the same thing would happen to the president - keeping it classy, as always)? How about, for a less complicated life story, Richie Valens, because he died in a plane crash instead of taking the bus like the good little Latino opener he was?
Oh heck, let's go straight to the founder of the feast: believer or not, how about Jesus Christ, whose public ministry (as the saying goes) only lasted some three years, but whose ignominious criminal's death - and subsequent resurrection - lit a spark that took over the world? Because in his case, the manner of his death was central to his message and to the reason people for two millennia have come to believe that he actually did rise from the dead: who, after all, makes a man who was executed as a criminal, in one of the most humiliating ways the Romans had thought up to perform executions, their hero? Their God? Gods don't die like that - they don't die at all.
Yet those early Jesus-cult members stubbornly stuck to their story. And Jesus's death on a cross, naked and writhing as he struggled to breathe, in front of the whole of Jerusalem, was the key.
“President George W. Bush didn't go on national television and tell Americans to tone down the rhetoric because that's what caused al Qaeda to fly aircraft into us.”
FLC needs to brush up on history, here is what George W Bush said after 9/11.
The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.
When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race.
America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.
Women who cover their heads in this country must feel comfortable going outside their homes. Moms who wear cover must be not intimidated in America. That's not the America I know. That's not the America I value.
I've been told that some fear to leave; some don't want to go shopping for their families; some don't want to go about their ordinary daily routines because, by wearing cover, they're afraid they'll be intimidated. That should not and that will not stand in America.
Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America, they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior.
Thanks for reminding us what a kumbayasshole Little Bush was, Inga.
Religion of Peace. Riiiiight.
As to the fame of Charlie Kirk, like other commenters here I am offered shorts and other vids of his campus encounters but have viewed few of them--as someone said, we Boomers are not really his audience.
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The newsmedia have taken advantage of Charlie Kirk’s assassination to bury the story of Iryna Zarutska‘s murder. No, lefties, we have not forgotten.
Nice pics.
#1 is pretty interesting. Particularly when living thru dark times.
The longer the manhunt goes on, the more I think it likely that the shooter had help.
Jesse Kelly's "Sky Is Green" theory is a metaphor used on his show to describe situations where political or cultural institutions promote a narrative that is demonstrably false, forcing people to pretend to believe it as a condition of participating in society.
Theory overview
The theory asserts that powerful forces, which Kelly often refers to as "The System," deliberately spread false information and promote a herd mentality:
Fabricated narratives: A lie is presented as truth, such as the idea that "the sky is green" when it is clearly blue.
Enforcement of belief: Those in power demand public acceptance of the false narrative, and anyone who questions it is attacked, shamed, or ostracized.
Show him the photo and prove him wrong.
There was a rumor going around that Charlie Kirk was the guy in the internet "change my mind' memes. Apparently, that was Steve Crowder, but Kirk did like the phase "prove me wrong."
I delivered a eulogy for my mother In Wisconsin (passed at age 90) on Saturday. I came home to find that Charlie was assassinated.
The day before my mother passed I was at a wonderful funeral for my best friend in grade school and jr high. I get multicultural points from the lefties because he was Black and the service was at a Black church on the South Side of Chicago. It inspired my eulogy.
I hope to live forever, but mortality calls on us all some day. We can easily give in to the dark forces that want to take over our lives (more than they have already). But, I feel more inspired to fight against the dying of the light.
You all know where this is going. Don't compromise and don't give up. The left will enslave our grandchildren if we give up the fight.
Remember, we can't support gun restrictions. If we do, the federal government could occupy our streets, imprison people without due process, and send dissidents to foreign gulags.
7,000 tips, videos and pictures submitted to the FBI.
So... Am I too early for the drunken progressive nurse show?
And tips no longer taxable. Windfall for the FBI
I think Inga will back me up on this - the sun has really upped its game ever since Trump was elected. Sunrises have never been so hot.
"7,000 tips, videos and pictures submitted to the FBI."
I don't understand the 2 photos we've been shown; the guy isn't carrying a rifle. I don't know if this was supposedly him coming or going, but the killer should have been carrying a rifle both ways.
Prediction.
Gun on roof prior to event.
Rifle family heirloom
Loner
Mental illness
Mom blamed for "not getting they/them help"
You’d think the Democrats would be better at covering their tracks, given their propensity for committing criminal acts.
Video: "The kid who asked Charlie Kirk the question before he was shot was trying to make the point of how peaceful the left was" -- D'oh!
Gotta be some antifa or transtifa fuck. BOLO for a thin-wristed gimp with a limp!
"The longer the manhunt goes on, the more I think it likely that the shooter had help.
If he didn't have help prior to the murder, he's certainly getting it now.
Somebody out there knows where this guy is; the transgender murder community is very small, but it's tight knit. They definitely want to help each other commit as many murders as possible against Americans.
Social Media is FULL, absolutely FULL of Democrats gloating over this win for their side. They absolutely believe that killing Americans is the only way forward for the Democrat Party to ever regain power.
Or an “uncomfortable device stuck down his pants”.
The Democrats are using trans anger to hide their guerilla war against the United States.
They're scrawling this shit on the guns and ammo to deflect suspicion away from themselves and onto an already-hated group.
Make no mistake about it - the trans stuff is a red herring.
The first photo— like, Whoa
Is this a good idea for a T Shirt?
Dramatic videos tonight of the shooter fleeing the Utah campus. Running across the rooftop. Dropping down to the ground from about 20ft. . Running after the drop across the street and off the campus where the gun was later discovered. Definitely young and in good physical condition. Not clear who took the video, but amazing that it followed his route from a fixed position until he disappeared across the street.
Also, FBI thinks he wasn't limping but in fact was holding on to the butt end of the rifle that was stuffed down his pants leg.
People don't hate transgenders (e.g. bisexuals, homosexuals, simulants). They hate Levine's Dreams of Herr Mengele to "treat" boys and girls passing through puberty who are confused or dissatisfied with their bodies' changes. They hate homosexuals grooming boys in schools, scouts, etc. They hate social liberals who celebrate nondiscrimination of wicked sexual orientations (e.g. pedophilia). They hate the wicked solution. They hate DEIsm (e.g. racism, sexism, etc). They dislike redistributive change schemes and the fiscal debt crisis they have forced.
This is really nice.
WTH! Have we pissed off the Yakuza? He obviously knew the lower ledge was there and as soon as he got the second foot down and while handling the gun bag he jumped without hesitation and then he stuck the landing from ten feet. He stayed on his feet. That's really, really hard to do.
Placed on administrative leave:
“A Secret Service Agent, in a Facebook post, said Charlie Kirk deserved to be assassinated. TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk, 31, was brutally murdered in broad daylight on Wednesday during an event at Utah Valley University. A gunman climbed up onto a roof and shot Charlie Kirk from an elevated position. Secret Service Agent Anthony Pough said Charlie Kirk, a Christian husband and father to two young children, deserved to be murdered in cold blood. “If you are Mourning this guy… delete me. He spewed hate and racism on his show,” Anthony Pough wrote.“
Stephen A. Smith.
Good luck Democrats. You earned what is coming.
|"Placed on administrative leave:" Not good enough.
Fired.
Make them pay:
On Thursday, Senate Republicans triggered the "nuclear option" that was holding back many of President Donald Trump's nominations. Now things can get moving. Republicans triggered the "nuclear option" to change the rules of the Senate on a party-line basis Thursday, a move that will allow them to speed up confirmation of President Donald Trump's nominees for key executive branch positions. The vote was 53-45 to establish a new rule that allows the Senate to confirm an unlimited number of nominees en bloc, rather than process each one individually. The rule applies to executive branch nominees subject to two hours of Senate debate, including subcabinet picks and ambassadors
"Video: "The kid who asked Charlie Kirk the question before he was shot was trying to make the point of how peaceful the left was" -- "
I bet he stills believes it.
More gummies, Kakophoniat.
No time for your concerns while folks are being assassinated for thoughts and stabbed to death on transit.
There were some interesting discussions re vax recently, but Cloward/Pivening and slaughter pushed it into the background.
Some concerning info on your cannabis product too, but it will pass under news cycle. Congrats.
Walter Kirn has been predicting, since the assassination of the United Health executive, that staged outrageous violence was going to ratchet up quickly in the coming months. Since then, we've had the Annunciation Church school shooting in Minneapolis by a deranged transgender, and then the Charlie Kirk assassination yesterday with transgender ideology involved, and then today the mass shooting at the US Naval Academy, still in early stages. And of course, in between we had Irina's death.
With the exception of the latter, each incident seemingly builds on various facets of the previous ones, establishing a connecting sense of motive and theme. The same is true of the reactions, although only one side uses the reaction cynically, unswervingly, to continue the provocation.
each incident seemingly builds on various facets of the previous ones, "
It's like an ongoing improvisation, open jam.
Armand D'Angour, professor of classics at Oxford, wrote a sonnet, 'completing' a line CK posted on X in 2013. He's on X (and Substack, too), under his own name.
"𝙂𝙤𝙤𝙙 𝙢𝙚𝙣 𝙢𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙙𝙞𝙚, 𝙗𝙪𝙩 𝙙𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙝 𝙘𝙖𝙣'𝙩 𝙠𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙣𝙖𝙢𝙚𝙨."
𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙙𝙚𝙚𝙙𝙨 𝙡𝙞𝙫𝙚 𝙞𝙣 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙝𝙚𝙖𝙧𝙩𝙨 𝙤𝙛 𝙖𝙡𝙡 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙘𝙖𝙧𝙚;
𝙇𝙚𝙩 𝙛𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙝 𝙨𝙪𝙘𝙘𝙪𝙢𝙗 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙞𝙢𝙚'𝙨 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙨𝙪𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙛𝙡𝙖𝙢𝙚𝙨,
𝘽𝙪𝙩 𝙢𝙚𝙢𝙤𝙧𝙮 𝙥𝙧𝙚𝙨𝙚𝙧𝙫𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙨𝙥𝙞𝙧𝙞𝙩𝙨 𝙧𝙖𝙧𝙚.
𝘽𝙧𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙢𝙚𝙣 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙛𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙟𝙪𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙘𝙚 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙧𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩,
𝙒𝙞𝙨𝙚 𝙥𝙚𝙤𝙥𝙡𝙚 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙨𝙝𝙖𝙧𝙚 𝙠𝙣𝙤𝙬𝙡𝙚𝙙𝙜𝙚 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙮𝙤𝙪𝙣𝙜,
𝙏𝙝𝙤𝙨𝙚 𝙝𝙚𝙧𝙤𝙚𝙨 𝙬𝙝𝙤 𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙣 𝙙𝙖𝙧𝙠𝙣𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙤 𝙡𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩 -
𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙨𝙩𝙤𝙧𝙞𝙚𝙨 𝙨𝙝𝙖𝙡𝙡 𝙛𝙤𝙧𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙢𝙤𝙧𝙚 𝙗𝙚 𝙨𝙪𝙣𝙜.
𝙏𝙝𝙤𝙪𝙜𝙝 𝙜𝙧𝙖𝙫𝙚𝙨 𝙬𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙘𝙧𝙪𝙢𝙗𝙡𝙚, 𝙗𝙤𝙙𝙞𝙚𝙨 𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙣 𝙩𝙤 𝙙𝙪𝙨𝙩,
𝙏𝙧𝙪𝙚 𝙜𝙤𝙤𝙙𝙣𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙨 𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙞𝙢𝙢𝙚𝙙 𝙞𝙣 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧𝙮 𝙢𝙞𝙣𝙙.
𝙎𝙢𝙖𝙡𝙡 𝙖𝙘𝙩𝙨 𝙤𝙛 𝙡𝙤𝙫𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙙𝙣𝙚𝙨𝙨, 𝙛𝙖𝙞𝙩𝙝, 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙩𝙧𝙪𝙨𝙩,
𝙈𝙪𝙨𝙩 𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙫𝙚 𝙖 𝙡𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙘𝙮 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙖𝙡𝙡 𝙩𝙤 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙙.
𝙒𝙝𝙞𝙡𝙚 𝙙𝙚𝙖𝙩𝙝 𝙢𝙖𝙮 𝙘𝙡𝙖𝙞𝙢 𝙩𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙗𝙤𝙙𝙞𝙚𝙨 𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙣𝙩 𝙖𝙣𝙙 𝙛𝙧𝙖𝙞𝙡,
𝙏𝙝𝙚𝙞𝙧 𝙣𝙤𝙗𝙡𝙚 𝙣𝙖𝙢𝙚𝙨 𝙡𝙞𝙫𝙚 𝙤𝙣 𝙗𝙚𝙮𝙤𝙣𝙙 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙫𝙚𝙞𝙡.
I find your terms acceptable.
This is going to be fun. I don't even have to make a hyperlink for this one.
https://www.charliesmurderers.com/
Looks like the Packers may have a hell of a defense this year.
Forgot about the kid in NYC who went to the wrong floor, looking for the NFL to shoot them up for his high school football brain damage.
Dramatic videos tonight of the shooter fleeing the Utah campus. Running across the rooftop. Dropping down to the ground from about 20ft. . Running after the drop across the street and off the campus where the gun was later discovered.
Back in the day jumping down from 20 feet without injury meant military jump school training. Do civilian skydivers get similar training? Or should the FBI look for ex-paratroopers?
Similar facial characteristics
https://x.com/trevorsutcliffe/status/1966176655673799024?s=46
Brainwashing from on high has gone out,,to the leftist loyalists who obey.
Don't talk about Charlie Kirk's assassination and murder.
No. no.
Talk about Jan 6th. Obey the billionaire Prickster.
More from the Gateway pundit (the gentleman says it’s not him)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/breaking-social-media-users-believe-they-may-have/
"The kid who asked Charlie Kirk the question before he was shot was trying to make the point of how peaceful the left was"
"piece ful" A history of piece fulness in blocs of Diversity, Equivocation, and Indoctrination. Embittered clunkers.
I don’t know why Kirk was murdered. I don’t know if the shooter was a political assassin, a lunatic stewing in bizarre ideological spaces, or just a deeply disturbed individual in a country with too many guns. Most likely, some combination of all three.
Obviously, if you are a police officer in Utah, an elected official with the power to enact legislation, or a reporter looking to find out the truth about the murderer or report on the political weaponization of this tragedy, you have an important democratically prescribed role. But for 99.99% of people, your role is to resist the “rational” impulse to turn a man’s murder into a battle of whose side is culpable. To play is to lose.
The only way to win is to stay grounded in truths we can all agree on: A man was murdered. That is horrible. A man was murdered. I hope the police catch the killer. A man was murdered. I wish things like this didn’t happen here. A man was murdered. I’ll pray for his family. ~Jerusalem Demsas
California Governor Gavin Newsome has called for more violence from the left. He's on video advocating for Democrats to literally punch people in the mouth. Actor James Woods highlights this video on his X channel.
https://x.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1966304480267563060
There seems to be no end to the variety of sunrises over Lake Mendota.
…two Massachusetts teachers celebrating the murders on social media also placed on temporary paid vacation…er, administrative leave. How is it only two?
He didn't jump from 20 feet. More like 10.
gadfly said...
I don’t know
We know. I covered this yesterday.
You know what DIDN'T happen after 9/11?
President George W. Bush didn't go on national television and tell Americans to tone down the rhetoric because that's what caused al Qaeda to fly aircraft into us.
Remember that next time some Republican urges you to extend your hand across the aisle and meet Democrats half way.
Charlie Kirk tried that approach.
They shot him in the throat while his wife and daughter was seated 12 feet away.
Don't be a victim.
George W. Bush told the nation that we would hunt down and kill every last person involved in 9/11 and we're still doing it 25 years later. Bush understood the power of retribution to keep people safe in the future.
It was a political assassination, no matter what was in the killers head. It was not important to psychoanalyze Gavrilo Princip, the murderer of 1914.
FormerLawClerk - Agree. So many DJT supporters dump on W all the time. Bravo.
"Remember that next time some Republican urges you to extend your hand across the aisle and meet Democrats half way.
Charlie Kirk tried that approach."
And he was very successful at that, he brought in many new Republican voters. That was why he was dangerous to your political opponents. Are you demanding your side abandon that successful approach to, what, chop up your neighbors with machetes?
Had we not been dragged through so many lies before I’d be much less concerned about the possibility seemingly benign high profile US entities are funding domestic terrorism….
I'm glad I dont live in the US anymore, too many of you are insane.
…one of those PBS series on the 60s or whatever it was that delved into the weathermen et al, one dude is bragging on trying to publicly plant the seed for terrorism in a young disturbed mind so as not to have to do it themselves. SOP nowadays perhaps, coming from inside the house, so to speak…
Any criticism of Patel and Bongino’s failure to solve crimes must also acknowledge past FBI director Chris Wray’s failure to podcast and sell supplements.
Between the death of Charlie Kirk and the conviction of Jair Bolsonaro, it’s been a tough couple of days for the far right.
culturally kaput atm…
Kash Patel's dismantling of the FBI will make it harder to find Charlie Kirk's real killer. But it will make it easier to make some random liberal activist the lead suspect.
"And he was very successful at that."
How is getting shot in the head and murdered considered in your mind to be a "success?"
What language do you speak?
I don't want Democrats to come over to our side. I want them expelled from our country.
I just watched the three parter on bin laden. There were some candid details from the cia and administrations. The episode where Rummy and Pentagon saying they can’t attack for six months, Cofer from the corner of the room says we’ll have flies walking across their eyeballs in six weeks. W promotes him to mic, flies on the eyeballs guy…
Duh, he persuaded millions (apparently) of young men to vote Republican in 2024. That is effective politics. Thats why its important to your political side to find a replacement.
You will never drive out or slaughter all the Democrats. Not even the Tutsi managed that with the Hutu (or vice versa). And the attempt will be disastrous.
And "what language do you speak"?
What nativist, know nothing bullshit is that?
I am fluent in four languages.
Kak wrote, "It’s been a tough couple of days for the far right."
On the other hand, you have to hand it to the Democrats. They are winning. They are fighting a very successful guerilla war against the American people and getting away with it. Their strategy - known as "boil the frog" - is a quintessential guerilla war game theory. In that strategy, you eliminate your opponents leadership slowly, over time - never advancing too far so as to get your opponent committed to a full-scale war that you would lose. You slowly kill every leader aligned against you. But you do it over time. People tend to forget VERY fast. So within a decade or two, it's possible to alter the entire leadership structure of your enemy without even arousing passions.
It was a great day to be a Democrat yesterday. It was an amazing victory for them and they cheered very loudly at their successful operation all over Social Media content in the knowledge that - with few exceptions - they would suffer zero consequences.
I have a prediction if this guy is ever caught (and I don't think he will be): He will make more money on GoFundMe than has ever been handed over to a cold-blooded Democrat Party assassin.
His visage will replace Che Guevera on Democrat t-shirts across the land. Not since Luigi Mangione murdered the CEO of United Health will a killer be celebrated like this kid is going to be celebrated.
One day, Democrats will enshrine his birth and get a federal day-off holiday named for this kid.
The volume of incitement here makes me think there’s a deadline…
The Stench of kak is making me Clench. Be gone, you bumfuzzled, furry rodent!
No Democrats, including: Trump, Gabbard, Kennedy, Reagan et al. Our hostess: Althouse. Now is not the time to be caught in the DEIst tar pits. Politics, as with many things in life, is a spectrum phenomenon.
FLC is in his “Moe, Larry, CHEESE!!!” phase. Calm down, you instigator of acid reflux.
"You will never drive out or slaughter all the Democrats
We just haven't tried hard enough bro. We can be unburdened by what has been and enact a new future for ourselves and our posterity.
Abraham Lincoln disagreed with your philosophy. He understood that you have to kill a movement if you want it dead.
We need, once again, for our military to kill the Democrat Party, because it is a criminal organization. They violate every law we have on the fucking books. Americans eliminated the National Socialist Party in Germany because it too was a criminal organization. And we can do the same right here at home. The law, and simple morality, are on our side.
We must lay waste to everyone involved in it in the way that we did to Japan so that for generations into the future, nobody ever attempts to organize a criminal empire such as this ever again.
Oh, talk about J6- K, who was the guy with the long gun whispering sweet nothings to Babbitt- the one on the same side of the door?
The far-right is anarchist. The left-right nexus is leftist.
Just a brief thought about the comment somewhere above that if the assassin is caught there will be a GoFundMe for him. Please, please, please, please, please let that happen. DON'T pressure the company to block or take down the donations.
Instead, arrest, try, and imprison all of those people under the Patriot Act for supporting terrorism. THAT would teach a very important lesson to precisely those who most need to learn it.
Larry Ellison and his son now own CBS. Ellison is a longtime Republican, currently the biggest conservative in Silicon Valley (really, since the passing of Bill Hewlett) and an early and large financial backer of Elon Musk. This is a big deal as CBS is a substantial chunk of the US MSM.
Repeating the solution in Japan, or following the socialists in Germany, in America, would be self-abortive. Fortunately, while the parties are divided, the majority are working to mitigate progress, and the "good Americans" are taking notes. Now is not the time for a wicked solution, to be trapped in the DEIst tar pits.
Regarding the influence of Charlie Kirk: I read a zillion news sources and consciously seek out left and right wing outlets. I literally did not know his name or his messaging until he popped up in the news a couple weeks ago. It seems that both his fans and his haters lived in specific media bubbles, and certainly not the largest media bubbles.
While Kirk may have influenced the 2024 election, the left has aggressively purged the conservative left like Joe Manchin and Krysten Sinema, the domestic working class, whites, family-oriented males, biological females, non-Islamic religious believers, etc. The left's core supporters include "black and brown" single mothers who depend on government aid, manipulative billionaires and their bureaucratic functionaries, and the bohemian rainbow sex crowd.
As such, I don't believe that TPUSA or Kirk did much to "attract" males or biological females or sane centrists. People like Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., and Musk joined the 2024 Trump train despite little apparent overlap with Kirk's messaging. They all joined Trump after living through the Biden trainwreck for four years.
Trumpian big tent Republicanism is akin to the six blind men and an elephant.
Some of these Democrats are making worried noises and issuing platitudes in attempts to tame the wild animals that comprise what amounts to the majority of their political party, but have no fear… they’ll be back to screaming about fascists, Hitler and OUR democracy.
Fuck ‘em!
And the Ellison media company Paramount Skydance just made an offer for Warner Bros yesterday. They have more cash than the likely counter bidders. That could give the Ellisons a vast span of control of the MSM.
Sunny
@sunnyright
The people celebrating the assassination are just random nobodies like Washington Post staffers, people teaching your children, university professors, aides to elected officials, medical professionals, and prominent talking heads.
@Enigma, you read “a zillion news sources” and only recently encountered Charlie Kirk and Turning Point? Says something about your choice of news sources.
Or your veracity.
…always kind of liked Larry. His old school silicon valley arrogant been to asia schtick is kind of refreshing today…
@Big Mike: Enjoy your partisan bubble life.
Sounds like you were in your own Private Bubble, enigma.
I agree with enigma
.I have been a loyal Republican voter for 50 years. I never heard of Charley Kirk until he was shot. I suppose I live in as much of a bubble of my own.
…yah I’ll admit not following him too, the shorts of the him vs leftie would pop up from time to time. Think I saw an interview where he was calm and articulate…but that was about it. I don’t watch news so I suppose that’s part of the problem…
I was not a particular fan of C.Kirk, but I knew of him. He is/was all over Youtube and TikTok. He had an effective schtick going, directly attacking the university leftist consensus. This is a very big deal (see Andreessen on the subject).
I certainly read about TPUSA, Project 2025 and whatnot, but Kirk himself was...apparently a cog in the MAGA gears...?
"The volume of incitement here makes me think there’s a deadline.
Well, as you know Rehajm, Donald Trump is a dictator. And as such, he's President for Life. So we're not going to have any more elections. That's just the way it is now.
You've heard the stories from countless news organizations. They warned you that Democracy Itself was at stake if we didn't elect Joe Biden, or Kameltoe Harris (or whichever idiot they eventually put on the ticket without winning a single state race).
Well, I hate to tell you buddy, but the results are in: Democracy lost. We're a Dictatorship now. (We wanted to be a mere Republic, but that wasn't good enough for you people). So here we are.
So yes, there is a deadline. When the Democrats are stooping to trying to murder your Presidential candidate, there's a deadline. Getting shot in the head has a way of steeling the mind to the perils at hand, as I'm sure Donald Trump can attest to.
So yes, there's a deadline. Time is of the essence. We have a few short years to eliminate the threat to OUR country.
That's right: It's OURS.
“He had an effective schtick going…”
schtik: "Schtik" is a variation of the Yiddish word "shtik" (also spelled schtick or shtick), which means "a piece" or "thing" and refers to a comic routine, gimmick, or characteristic way of behaving. It can describe a performer's predictable or contrived act to gain attention, a person's repetitive mannerism, or a bit of clowning.
My goodness! How generous of you.
TPUSA was Kirks thing.
Note: I do not regularly follow TikTok, Instagram, X, Facebook and other short-attention-span soundbite media. Yes, I'm into long form Joe Rogan and other Youtube stuff.
Kirk's message was Christian and American: pro-Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. It was anti-Diversity and pro-diversity. It was men and women equal in rights and complementary in Nature. It was free of Marxist, class, bloc ideologies. It recognized a distinction between homosexuals, bisexuals, and simulants in the transgender spectrum, between people of good faith and groomers, mad scientists, young and adult, etc. It acknowledged rights from our Creator and the necessary reconciliation with government, a representative Republican form of government.
They have the Kirk Suspect in custody. Our President just announced it on Fox and Friends.
Shooter’s in custody!
Trump is on Fox saying that they have the shooter, he thinks. Turned in by his father.
"He had an effective schtick going, directly attacking the university leftist consensus.
Watch his videos on YouTube. He never attacked a single person. He would debate you. Respectfully, and never give a single inch to the Democrat narrative of the day. But he didn't attack people. He was very, very religious and always turned the other cheek.
It got him executed and now his wife doesn't have a provider and his kids are fatherless.
Not the path you want to go down.
Never forget the ruthlessness of the enemies of America. We don't need Democrats in the Republican Party, or in our country. We can expel every one of them. Make Exile Great Again. France didn't put up with Napoleon. They exiled him and we can do the exact same thing with Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama.
All it takes is the courage of our convictions and the willingness to seek permanent solutions.
We now know who watches Fox in the AM!
"Shooter’s in custody!
Again? They've had him twice already so far.
You have a problem with that Captain Bob??
"We now know who watches Fox in the AM! "
I can't believe their viewer is here amongst us. Who would have known!! Small world.
The “in custody” status was breaking news on the Michael DelGiorno radio show.
Enigma said…
As such, I don't believe that TPUSA or Kirk did much to "attract" males or biological females or sane centrists. People like Tulsi Gabbard, RFK Jr., and Musk joined the 2024 Trump train despite little apparent overlap with Kirk's messaging. They all joined Trump after living through the Biden trainwreck for four years.
Trumpian big tent Republicanism is akin to the six blind men and an elephant.
This is actually an insane take.
If you think you search through many sources and you missed Kirk that is like saying you looked at basketball players and missed Lebron James. You are doing it wrong if this is true.
Charlie Kirk built the largest grass roots political movement that exists today. TPUSA has millions of people in it and they are overwhelmingly under 30. Kirk’s election events are bigger than CPAC now and happen multiple times in multiple places.
It was indeed how he attracted attention. He had a message to bring, but a simple lecture on campus wouldn't do it. His offer to debate anyone did bring the crowds. A debate is not really about that particular one on one verbal contest but its effect on the audience - ref Cicero, De Oratore (usually including several books on oratory, rhetoric and orators)
scolded for not doing the homework assignment you didn’t know you had
wendybar said...
" You have a problem with that Captain Bob??"
Nope. We watch Fox every day, sometimes all day and all night.
Kirk, Trump, Gabbard, Kennedy, Musk et al are complementary in a diversity of individuals, minority of one sense, sharing compatible principles, concerns, but not lock step. On one hand, on the other, always and forever. Adults set priorities and reconcile in families, communities, and nations.
Death is not the worst thing. Death is often the price of victory.
Ask any Christian martyr.
C.Kirk won indeed.
JD Vance will be the next President of the United States.
His handling of the aftermath of the assasination of Charlie Kirk has been nothing short of historic.
He cancelled plans with his family to attend memorial services at the 9-11 Memorial in New York City (knowing Trump could handle that), and few immediately to Utah to attend to the wife of Kirk and their two young children.
Kirk's body was flown home on Air Force 2 and they are continuing to minister to his grieving widow and family.
Nothing short of historic.
Got it. Sometimes, we take comments wrong, and they don't come off like you mean them. I mistook your sarcasm!!
Saintly schtick - Francis Xavier in India (Goa) would, famously, ring bells on the streets or the beach, to attract an audience, to whom he could begin to preach.
The Stop the Steal flag is flying at half mast outside the Alito home today.
What, are you stalking him Kak??
Kakistocracy said...
The Stop the Steal flag is flying at half mast outside the Alito home today.
Chuck is back to remind us that he thinks killing Kirk was entirely justified because he was a threat to democracy and somebody somewhere tried to steal the 2020 election.
Out of respect for Charlie Kirk, now is not the time to talk about the political violence wrought by right-wingers in the past three months. It is the time to talk about the political violence wrought by an ex-Bernie Sanders supporter eight years ago.
The next DOD constellation to be launched by SpaceX - the first was the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) constellation.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/09/pentagon-begins-deploying-new-satellite-network-to-link-sensors-with-shooters/
This one is a communication satellite system, but with, ultimately @500 units and it will control weapon systems. SpaceX has become essential to US national strategy.
"The first 21 satellites in a constellation that could become a cornerstone for the Pentagon's Golden Dome missile-defense shield successfully launched from California Wednesday aboard a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket.
The Falcon 9 took off from Vandenberg Space Force Base, California, at 7:12 am PDT (10:12 am EDT; 14:12 UTC) and headed south over the Pacific Ocean, heading for an orbit over the poles before releasing the 21 military-owned satellites to begin several weeks of activations and checkouts."
YORDANIS COBOS-MARTINEZ was released from ICE custody by the Biden admin on 1/13/2025, one week before Trump took office, due to “no significant likelihood of removal in the forseeable future”. The Biden admin didn’t believe they could enforce his deportation order and remove him because Cuba doesn’t cooperate, and they did not conduct third party country deportations the way the Trump administration does. (sending aliens to countries they aren’t nationals of).
Cobos-Martinez has a prior criminal history of:
False imprisonment in CA (unknown disposition)
Indecency with a child in Texas (dismissed)
Grand theft of vehicle in Florida (dismissed)
Carjacking & false imprisonment in CA (acquitted on carjacking, convicted of false imprisonment).
Disturbing surveillance video shows Cobos-Martinez allegedly kicking and picking up the victim’s severed head in the motel parking lot as it drips blood, before he places it into a dumpster. It reportedly all started with an argument with the motel manager, and the beheading took place in front of the victim’s wife and son.
About 20-30% of the population in the US is evil.
This includes anyone who still supports the Democrat party. The people who still vote for the democrat party are either evil or they are so stupid and lazy they should not be allowed to vote.
I will hazard a guess that the average age of commenters on this blog is over 60. Not Kirk's audience. I knew of him but had not paid much attention. His appeal was to younger people.
I think that if you live in a social milieu in which the sort of insane leftism that we criticize here is not only commonplace but dominant, Kirk's message is a beacon of hope and truth, an anchor of sanity in a world seemingly gone mad. Sort of a millennial Rush Limbaugh.
What a horrible thing this is. It does seem to have exposed to those not directly affected just just how awful the hard-core left belief system is.
Death is not the worst thing. Death is often the price of victory.
Ask any Christian martyr.
C.Kirk won indeed.
buwaya, thank you for this.
Even for non-believers, a person's life is so much more than the circumstances of her death. Are you going to say "Elvis lost" because he died on the toilet (as some lefty here kindly reminded us all recently, in the context of hoping the same thing would happen to the president - keeping it classy, as always)? How about, for a less complicated life story, Richie Valens, because he died in a plane crash instead of taking the bus like the good little Latino opener he was?
Oh heck, let's go straight to the founder of the feast: believer or not, how about Jesus Christ, whose public ministry (as the saying goes) only lasted some three years, but whose ignominious criminal's death - and subsequent resurrection - lit a spark that took over the world? Because in his case, the manner of his death was central to his message and to the reason people for two millennia have come to believe that he actually did rise from the dead: who, after all, makes a man who was executed as a criminal, in one of the most humiliating ways the Romans had thought up to perform executions, their hero? Their God? Gods don't die like that - they don't die at all.
Yet those early Jesus-cult members stubbornly stuck to their story. And Jesus's death on a cross, naked and writhing as he struggled to breathe, in front of the whole of Jerusalem, was the key.
"Looks like the Packers may have a hell of a defense this year."
A sure sign the end times are upon us.
kak - tell us about this right wing violence.
NOW.
Still waiting - Inag(D)
JD Vance is a class act.
The corrupt evil demonic terrorist organization that IS the asshole Democratic party - want him dead, too.
“President George W. Bush didn't go on national television and tell Americans to tone down the rhetoric because that's what caused al Qaeda to fly aircraft into us.”
FLC needs to brush up on history, here is what George W Bush said after 9/11.
https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010917-11.html
The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war.
When we think of Islam we think of a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. Billions of people find comfort and solace and peace. And that's made brothers and sisters out of every race -- out of every race.
America counts millions of Muslims amongst our citizens, and Muslims make an incredibly valuable contribution to our country. Muslims are doctors, lawyers, law professors, members of the military, entrepreneurs, shopkeepers, moms and dads. And they need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.
Women who cover their heads in this country must feel comfortable going outside their homes. Moms who wear cover must be not intimidated in America. That's not the America I know. That's not the America I value.
I've been told that some fear to leave; some don't want to go shopping for their families; some don't want to go about their ordinary daily routines because, by wearing cover, they're afraid they'll be intimidated. That should not and that will not stand in America.
Those who feel like they can intimidate our fellow citizens to take out their anger don't represent the best of America, they represent the worst of humankind, and they should be ashamed of that kind of behavior.
Thanks for reminding us what a kumbayasshole Little Bush was, Inga.
Religion of Peace. Riiiiight.
As to the fame of Charlie Kirk, like other commenters here I am offered shorts and other vids of his campus encounters but have viewed few of them--as someone said, we Boomers are not really his audience.
Picture #1, Madison as Mordor. But from a distance.
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