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"Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years.... This guy. This creep...."

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Lance म्हणाले...

What garbage. I support the President's efforts to reform the bureaucracy and enforce immigration law (although I think he needs to go much further), but on issues like Jeffrey Epstein, he and Bondi are full of crap. Now they're saying there is no list, after years of promising to release it? Release the list!

Aggie म्हणाले...

Nopity-Nope. Not going to fly.

Readering म्हणाले...

I would have said what Trump said about the JFK assassination, and yet Trump reached out to revive the issue in advance of his inauguration. Except we know Trump had longstanding connections to Epstein. Of the creepy kind.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Wasn't the flightlist already published a couple years ago what is the list that we're all talking about now ? Is there a list Identifying the perps, with sex acts with specific underage victims ?
And, are there rumored videos also?

Peachy म्हणाले...

Bondi over-sold the file on her desk. Which was not wise - because we were already sure that Epstein didn't kill himself.

john mosby म्हणाले...

Oddly, today on Morning Schmoe, a guest spent a long time explaining how there is no Epstein client list and never was one. Very strange.

RR
JSM

Peachy म्हणाले...

Readering - you want to tell us what that is - using facts.
Please include Bill Clinton - who is known to have spent a lot more time with Epstein.

It is true that Trump threw Epstein out of Mar-a-lago once.

Jim at म्हणाले...

Except we know Trump had longstanding connections to Epstein. Of the creepy kind.

Why do you continue to repeat this lie? Trump threw his ass out of Mar-a-Lago upon discovering said creepy behavior.

This has been told to you numerous times.

jim5301 म्हणाले...

Trump doesn’t want the file released. Why?

FormerLawClerk म्हणाले...

Lance wrote: "I support the President's efforts to reform the bureaucracy and enforce immigration law (although I think he needs to go much further), but on issues like Jeffrey Epstein, he and Bondi are full of crap.

Trump, at the behest of the Chamber of Commerce, the Strawberry Pickers union, and his buddies in the hotel and golf course industry, has ceased workplace raids to evict illegal aliens. He has had second thoughts about kicking out the only people willing to clean his hotel rooms and boil hot dogs at his various golf courses around the world.

Donald Trump, on Truth Social:

"Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace. In many cases the Criminals allowed into our Country by the VERY Stupid Biden Open Borders Policy are applying for those jobs. This is not good. We must protect our Farmers, but get the CRIMINALS OUT OF THE USA. Changes are coming!"

So he folded up his cheap tent on the immigration issue.

As I recall, he also fired the ONE GUY who was finding out about all the massive corruption in his government and exposing it to people on X. Elon Musk also says Trump is on the Epstein list, and that's why Pam Bondi was keeping it on her desk and refusing to release it.

So, I dunno Lance. You might want to rethink your position.

Trump has reversed all of his now that he no longer needs your vote.

MikeD म्हणाले...

For everybody crying "but Epstein" across all of social media, show me on the doll how you'll be hurt, disadvantaged, over taxed, made safe from illegal criminals, made safe from AntiFa and other Democrat shock troops, how this will result in Hamas releasing hostages or Putin entering a cease fire? Yeah the list could go on but, it doesn't matter to anybody's life!

DINKY DAU 45 म्हणाले...

Just a small cover up ,,no problem YOU'LL NEVER KNOW , forget it trump tells Bondi BONDI SAYS OH THATS RIGHT THERE WAS no list. CASE CLOSED.. MAGAS GO CASE CLOSED!

Peachy म्हणाले...

Her actual quote was about the Epstein file on her desk.

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

The Epstein files were a big story when people thought maybe some Democrats were in them. But now that Trump is refusing to release them, possibly because of his own appearance in them, it's not such a big story anymore.

FormerLawClerk म्हणाले...

John Robers: “Will the DOJ release a list of Jeffrey Epstein’s clients?”

Bondi: “It’s sitting on my desk right now to review. That’s been a directive by President Trump. I’m reviewing that.”

Bondi did not say some nebulous file was on her desk. She was asked specifically by a member of the leading conservative friendly media about the DOJ's list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients.

Bondi replied that there is a list. She said it's on her desk. She said she is reviewing it. She says she was directed to review this list by President Donald Trump (so Trump must also know there is a list. And she claimed she was reviewing the list.

There is a list. It's a list of all the rich pedophiles that Jeffrey Epstein caught up in the honeypot operation he worked for the CIA. They have all the video of the pedophiles having sex with underage girls recruited by Ghislane Maxwell specifically to be young whores in order to get free stuff and lots of cash and spend time in various exotic locales.

They sit in their offices watching these videos and continue blackmailing the rich people they have on them because it's quite lucrative.

You're never going to see the list, because that's the only way the blackmail can continue.

Readering म्हणाले...

Lots of stories about their friendship over many years. That it ended badly just makes it like so many Trump endings.

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

If this Epstein controversy goes on much longer some Houthis are definitely getting bombed.

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

At some point, the cognitive dissonance becomes unsustainable. Either you accept that you were misled—or you accuse everyone, even your own heroes, of being in on it. And when that happens, it’s no longer a movement. It’s a cult devouring itself.

Maynard म्हणाले...

Epstein was an intelligence asset who probably worked for the US, the UK and the Mossad using blackmail.

Does anyone seriously think that there were paper or electronic records of his activities?

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Man, you Trump haters are dense. You just go right back to long known lies like nobody ever heard them before. If Trump was damaged by these files, they would have been released years ago. They were willing to make up lies and pursue him over having sex with adult women and they would let this lie. Who is dumb enough to buy that B.S.?

Rt41Rebel म्हणाले...

Had Trump been on the list, it would already have been released under the Biden admin, with heavy redactions of course…

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

Many powerful men were screwing underage women on that island, and it's on video with many witnesses to them being there. It's not possible that didn't happen. The girls didn't screw themselves and Epstein didn't do them all himself. Presidents, billionaires, royalty, leaders of all types. I don't agree with Trump on everything and this is one.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Rumor gaining traction:
The files are kept hidden because Epstein was involved in JFK assassination.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

No question Clinton was behind the murder, we all know that.
What we cannot understand is why Trump keeps protecting Clinton by hiding the files.

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

Maybe Trump is on the list. Maybe there is a Kushner? 🤔 Go google why Ivanka's father in law went to prison. Sick shit Sexual blackmail. Sound familiar?

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-charles-kushner-new-jersey-elections-crime-0155d15fa31108fd2c0e6360a3b597dd

He ks now out Ambassador to France!!! Cannot make this shit up.

Peachy म्हणाले...

Maybe there is no list.

Also - If there is a list and Trump and everyone in his family are on it - don't you suppose the left would have seized on this already?

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

The lost one minute of Epstein footage has been recovered!!

https://x.com/i/status/1942558487201919346

Peachy म्हणाले...

DD Is digging - found something bogus from 2020.

Mason G म्हणाले...

"Who is dumb enough to buy that B.S.?"

I don't know... Trump haters, maybe?

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Ethical dilemma:

Suppose there is a list of VVip's compromised by Epstein and thus subject to control by US Intelligence.

Remember when, at Clinton’s first inauguration, Ron Silver saw military jets flying over the Lincoln Memorial, and was disgusted, then he thought, “Those are our planes now”?

Well...those are our pedophiles now.

Do we use them to save America?

Old and slow म्हणाले...

An I the only person who just doesn't care about this at all? Either Trump has "the list" and is using it for his own purposes, which I would be fine with, or it has long since vanished into the hands of the IC who are still using it to control the people who were compromised by it (much more likely). Either way, this information was never going to be released to the public. It is far too valuable as kompromat. All this public hand wringing over the awful pedophiles is just so much virtue signaling.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"An I the only person who just doesn't care about this at all?"

Nope.

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

"If Trump was damaged by these files, they would have been released years ago."

The argument is that a critical mass of Democrats haven’t publicly called Trump a pedophile yet; therefore, total exoneration. 🤣

Why is Trump protecting all the Democrats. I can't think of any reason other than maybe regular 2D chess.

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...

If Trump were on the list or the tapes he would have been prosecuted. I have no doubt of that.
IMO the ensuing scandal of revealing names and and tapes and prosecuting the sexual exploitation of minors would overshadow the entire Trump 2nd term. I don't see why MAGA supporters would want that and that's what Trump was alluding to in his response. There are very significant things happening now that deserve our attention -- and a sex scandal would not serve our nation.
Also, I suspect that Trump doesn't want to see the office of the presidency degraded by dragging former President Bill Clinton through the mud of his Epstein related exploits. Clinton was notorious for his sexual adventures with young women so he's probably high on the so called client list. It's not that Trump wants to protect Bill Clinton, he wants to protect the dignity of the executive branch.

Mason G म्हणाले...

"An I the only person who just doesn't care about this at all?"

No. It's always seemed to me that if such a list existed, the chances of it ever being made public are pretty much zero.

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

He refused to even answer a question about it. Said it wasn’t important and attacked the reporter.

"How can people be expected to have faith in Trump if he won’t release the Epstein files?" Elon Musk

What does Althouse's Magic 8 Ball say?

@grok: Can Trump restore the faith of the people without releasing the Epstein files?

'Probably not. The DOJ just claimed there's no "client list" and Epstein offed himself, but without dumping every last file, skepticism festers like an open wound. Trump's crew promised transparency—deliver or watch faith evaporate amid the conspiracy fog.' ~ Grok

@grok: So Trump is cooked either way?

'Trump dumps the Epstein files and they implicate big names (including possibly his circle), it's chaos and backlash. If he doesn't, trust erodes like sand in a storm—especially after those DOJ promises fizzled. Cooked? Maybe, but he's survived worse; skepticism's the real killer here.' ~ Grok

walter म्हणाले...

Peachy said...Bondi over-sold the file on her desk.
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She also (separately) talked about many videos and underage victims.
This is a bullshit response by Trump.

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

[Trump] "wants to protect the dignity of the executive branch."
🤣😂😅🤡

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Apparently KaKa has found a topic that he doesn't have egg all over his face (yet).

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Who else has the list? Who had it before Trump came in? They must still have it. How many people have it? Is there a list of people who have the list? Who's on that list?
Do the people who are on Epstein's client list know who their extortionists are? Would it be better to give the pedos on the list amnesty in exchange for finding out who was behind the whole nasty business?
If Trump released the list, wouldn't the people behind the Epstein op say Trump was on the list, but he removed himself and added others? Wouldn't half the country believe it and half wouldn't?
Would releasing the list accomplish what we'd like it to accomplish? Maybe some names on the list are innocent, but were added to deter Trump.
Maybe the whole thing is so muddled up that releasing it would do more harm than good.
Just thinking out loud.

Peachy म्हणाले...

Kak -a -phony
Why didn't Biden "release the client list?"

Peachy म्हणाले...

Kak - massive huge numbers of people have called Joe Biden and Bill Clinton - pedophiles.

Aggie म्हणाले...

This is not what the public is after. The public is after the cast of characters who have been successful at keeping their identity protected. They are after the people that believe themselves to be above the law, and so far have been successful at prosecuting that belief.

There is an understanding that Epstein was running a blackmail operation, for reasons unknown but suspected to be associated with the intelligence services. The purpose is also unclear, aside from using underage girls to establish a hold over influential people, for reasons unknown - but probably to leverage future influence and decision-making by important people that have been compromised.

But people don't care about the reasons. They care about the arrogance of a person thinking they could abuse a young girl and get away with it. It's an outrage. It won't stand pat the way it is now.

le Douanier म्हणाले...

I think DJT is completely wrong here. He's misjudging his fans.

Shooting someone and not losing voters isn't the only thing he can do. He should let the it be known that he was involved w/ these sub-eighteen girls. Why all this hiding and murdering? His Althouse fans will just tell us that he was tricked by Epstein/DeepState. Or he a sixteen y/o is sexually ready to go. Or it's just locker room stuff. Or whatever Meade and such can come up with to support this evil man.

The cult will still follow him, just as if he shot someone.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Bob Boyd said...

The lost one minute of Epstein footage has been recovered!!

https://x.com/i/status/1942558487201919346
7/8/25, 8:51 PM

Holy crap! That explains a lot. Of course the left will try to claim it is AI generated and not legit. Just like they do with everything else detrimental to their gods and goddesses on their side.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Phase 1 Documents
First major document release including evidence lists, unredacted flight logs, masseuse lists, and contact information as released by courts.

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...

Kakistocracy got hung up on the word "dignity," and I admit I should have used the word presidential "power" instead. I stand by my position that Trump wants to stay focused on exercising the power of the presidency to benefit the country and does not want his 2nd term hijacked by the Epstein scandal which would undoubtedly dominate the media.


Jim at म्हणाले...

They care about the arrogance of a person thinking they could abuse a young girl and get away with it.

As others noted, this is way down on my list of things I care about simply because the chance of finding the truth is right next to discovering unicorn farts will run my 280Z.

But what makes you think it was just girls?

Jim at म्हणाले...

7/8/25, 10:23 PM ..... just might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on the Internet.

Aught Severn म्हणाले...

FullMoon said...
Rumor gaining traction:
The files are kept hidden because Epstein was involved in JFK assassination.

7/8/25, 8:22 PM


FSCK, you are right. The airplane was a euphemism for time machine and the island is a euphemism for the grassy knoll. HE WAS SELLING TICKETS TO SHOOT JFK! Think about it, the release of the JFK files was a cover for keeping the real story a secret.

gadfly म्हणाले...

In 2002, Donald Trump called Jeffrey Epstein a "fun" and "terrific guy," and added, "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."

So he liked him back when they both chased younger beautiful women, but now, long after discovery that Trump traveled on Epstein's Lolita Express seven times, and showed up on an Epstein Client List exposed in Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, suddenly The Don decides to call dear Jeffrey a creep?

Kash Patel and Dan Bongino have pushed for releasing the client list and Pam Bondi said it was on her desk, but now it is gone. Poof! Coverup!

Jim at म्हणाले...

In 2002...

There's a pony in there somewhere ....

Jim at म्हणाले...

and showed up on an Epstein Client List exposed in Ghislaine Maxwell's trial

See, this is how just how stupid some people can be.

Where is the fucking list, you moron?

I don't speak for everyone, but it would be nice to see the list - if it exists - so we can all move onto the next stupid thing.

And I'm pretty sure most of us would agree if Trump was on said 'list' we would've known about it years ago.

Good lord. It's exhausting.

Craig Mc म्हणाले...

Is there a "client" list or just a contact list. It would have been Epstein's business to have every VIP amongst his contacts, whether he knew them or not. Flight logs might mean more, but it's not enough on their own to incriminate someone.

If Epstein was running a blackmail op (and I think he was), he was running it for someone more powerful than he was. They would have sent the cleaners through for any evidence. It's all safely locked up nowhere near the USA.

However, I do know that's not Trump in the blue dress on Epstein Island.

Jim at म्हणाले...

I will say this:

Pam Bondi is in way, way over her head.

Don't say you have this and you have that, and weeks later announce you ain't got shit.

Trump's worst appointment, imo.

Breezy म्हणाले...

I would rather we not be like the UK, hiding the perps who have assaulted young women, especially an enterprise as large as this appeared to be.

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

Also everyone is burying the lede here. The real story is that NO ONE will be prosecuted ever. Ghilane Maxwell will rot in prison for trafficking kids to "no one." Wink wink.

Bill Gates should be in prison. Bill Clinton ahould be in prison. Half of Hollywood should be in prison. But they will never be prosecuted because Trump or someone from the Trump Crime Family would be in cell with them.

Its mutually assured destruction.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

I agree with Rosalyn and Mike D.

Trump is right that the media is tail-wagging-the-dog with the Epstein story. But he should never have said that he would release everything because he must have known that this stinks of Mossad and would empower anti-semitic behavior.

I say this as a supporter of Israel who believes that Israel presents an unique case to which we have special considerations. That doesn't make Epstein stink of Mossad any less.

Enough with the leftist lying, though. Trump was the first and only celebrity who denounced Epstein, long before the scandal broke. He alone took action, loudly, as only a few others quietly skulked away. So what if he said what he said about him? That sounds like his typical sense of empowered humor -- a threat within a joke. He also banned him from his resort in Florida for going after young women. Meanwhile, and long after Trump did that, the entire galaxy of leftist celebrities and politicians were still humping Epstein's leg, appointing him to prestigious boards where he had access to high school girls (Robin Hood Foundation), partying with him, and helping in the cover-up.

If Trump had any other type of connection to Epstein, does anyone believe the media wouldn't have used it prior to the 2024 election?

One more thing about Mossad. Every other country with the resources to do so play spy versus spy with America, and we do the same with them. Look at China, Russia, Iran/Hamas, and their proxies. But once again, only Israel is singled out and denounced for the practice. And that stinks too.

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

Not buying it, Trump. The guy asked a very pertinent question-prompted by your own DOJ's BS "memo."

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

What was Bondi's answer?

guitar joe म्हणाले...
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guitar joe म्हणाले...

"I think DJT is completely wrong here. He's misjudging his fans." I'm a little surprised myself at Trump's outburst. Spend any time here and you'll know that the Epstein list is a grand obsession and that people here think anyone who is a Democrat or even voted for one is on the list. Lots of arguments here that DJT would have been prosecuted if he had been on the list, presumably by the Biden Justice Department. It follows, then, that the current Justice Department, or the one in Trump's first term, would have prosecuted people on that list. Is there no list? Is there no definitive proof, aside from a name on this list, that Bill Clinton, for example, had his way with an underage girl? Or is this just another stupid conspiracy, spun out of control?

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

"If Trump had any other type of connection to Epstein, does anyone believe the media wouldn't have used it prior to the 2024 election?"

Yes because everyone else would be brought down with him. Why ISN'T Chuck Shumer freaking out right now demanding transparency? Name ANY other scandal that the Dems wouldn't pounce on. They won't touch this. Why? It involves young girls. They could easily capture the moral high ground.

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

"Or is this just another stupid conspiracy, spun out of control?"

⬆️ Yes! This is another stupid right wing conspiracy spun out of control.

Just like the Wuhan lab leak and Joe Biden's senility.

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

I can see all sorts of complications and problems involving the possible exposure of ongoing intelligence operations and/or assets which rely to some degree on kompromat connected with the Epstein operation.* I can also believe that the extent goes way beyond what Trump or Biondi ever imagined. But "Move on, nothing to see here" isn't going to work here. That DOD memo wasn't even a modified limited hangout. It was a stonewall.
I find myself in agreement with D.D. Driver. (Wow).
*I have been rewatching "Homeland." This may affect my perception.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Full Moon said, Holy crap! That explains a lot. Of course the left will try to claim it is AI generated and not legit.

Hope you're being sarcastic.
I posted that because I thought it was funny, not because I thought it was real.
Hillary went to the jail and choked Epstein to death herself? Come on.

Ralph L म्हणाले...

It's my understanding that DoJ rules prevent it from releasing evidence of criminality without making an indictment. Isn't it past the statute of limitations now, and is Epstein Island US territory? Why Bondi didn't explain all this is a mystery. She has a lot to do with all the District judge tyrants and few trusted allies in the DoJ.

Lazarus म्हणाले...

The idea that only Israel is singled out for blame in everything doesn't fly. Look at how assiduously the media and internet commenters are avoiding speculation that Epstein and Maxwell may have been involved with Mossad (as Maxwell's father apparently was). Look at the months and years of the Russia Collusion Hoax and all the news about Chinese espionage efforts. About Mossad, not much news.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

Lazarus: the left-wing of the Democrats, now ascendant, are obsessed with Mossad, but in this singular case, they do not want their own funders, important Party members, and other Democrats implicated in the scandal. The Russia Collusion hoax was just that: a hoax. The reporting wasn't about reporting: it was about obfuscating. And somehow the Chinese and the sponsors of Palestinian and other violent Islamists managed to sneak in thousands of spies and demagogues to our universities and hand over entire academic departments to them without the media even noticing until Trump began threatening them with consequences. Then there was the great Covid obfuscation.

walter म्हणाले...

"That DOD memo wasn't even a modified limited hangout. It was a stonewall. "
If it's all so complex and difficult, the normal extended procedural foot-dragging would have been better than this.

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