It's one of the sorrows of humanity that our best efforts to help -- say, banning TikTok to reduce Chinese influence and infiltration -- end up causing the opposite effect.
There is no question that folks like dopey Zers will fall for this stuff being so fresh and idealistic and all. The solution is to put up a post about the ideas of Adam Smith and Friedrich Hayek.
When Communism was first proposed in the 1800s and early 1900s, one could forgive people for believing that it was a new political system that would free the masses. Today, anyone who believes in Communism is an idiot.
As someone who has actually read Adam Smith: "Our merchants and masters complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price and lessening the sale of goods. They say nothing concerning the bad effects of high profits. They are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. They complain only of those of other people.”
Ace (@aoshq) who usually has a good handle on tech news says Rednote (the Chinese name actually translates to "Little Red Book") is also primarily a CCP spyware app. Here's a couple of random news items:
1. Chinese hacking and successful penetration of corporate and government computer systems has increased dramatically in the last year (including Treasury Department acknowledged this week). 2. We used to have excellent tech reporting from dedicated sites like Wired, where I believe I first saw the ugly details of what TikTok actually did behind the facade. Unfortunately those sites went woke and partisan and generally lost their audience their revenue stream and their good writers.
I was just thinking the same thing after hearing a family member excoriate Trump. They never seem to realize their side can and at some point will be just as bad as they claim the other side is.
Marx and Engels believed that, but instead found a way for their adherents to be totalitarian authoritarian mass murderers more efficient than any in history. Makes me want to believe in Hell, for their sake.
Class-disordered ideologies, Diversity, equity, and inclusion. Take a knee for progress and a slice of cake. The Chinese ruling class hasn't changed. The activists have adopted and adapted a new, pehaps green deal. One-child is NOW selective-child and other interesting changes. The only question is who is to be master.
Per my comment earlier this morning, see this video about Rednote from a guy who lived in China for several years and is married to a Chinese woman. Per his comments, Rednote is rapidly being turned into TikTok 2.0 with the same internal/foreign rule split:
What is this, RedBook? My prediction is, any Chinese app that comes out to fill the gaps left by TikTok will not be designed to capture less data from its users, but more, and with greater stealth. It's devolved into the same kind of escalation game as cop radar, and radar detectors.
No one has ever explained what the Chinese were doing on their APP that was so terrible. They were never specific. "Infiltration" "Spyware" "influence" "ID theft" are just vague buzz words.
If we were so concerned about "Chinese Foreign influence" we wouldn't allow Chinese citizens to work in our labs, high tech firm, and RD faciliites. Nor would be allow Chinese dual citizens to lobby or work for our Congessmen. Or allow millions of foreigners to pour accross our borders and vote in elections.
But we dont. And suddenly, a social media platform is the danger. We know who was really behind this. First, the American group that wants to buy Tik Tok on the cheap. Second, the ADL and other Leftists who hated Tik Tok for allowing free speech The Israel media has been disussing the "TIk TOK problem" ever since October 2023.
IRC, Tik Tok was the only social media platform that told Biden's DHS/FBI censors to go to hell.
Free markets, free of arbitrage including monopolies and practices, are adaptive, optimizing to be representative of a reconciliation of supply and demand.
Yes, but socialism need not "creep" any more. More of a full gallop. McCarthy was on to something back there. Here we are, in bed with the CCP. As Neil said, a kinder gentler machine gun.
Yep! I have a 12 and 10yr old. Both have phones but only my 12yr old has a line connected to it. Neither have any interest in tiktok. My 12yr old is currently halfway through the unabridged Les Miserables (PRINT version) and my son does spend a lot of time with Roblox but also is a very advanced reader. Both are athletic. We sort of have screen time limits and I have Family Link and keep watch but they just don't care about the online obsessed apps. Weel my daughter loves the Golden State Warriors so does watch a lot of NBA.com
They just have very different interests than what I here are out there. And we talk to them a lot. There's a lot of bad stuff out there, too much to police so teaching kids to discern is key and to have other interests. But I am definitely alert to anything that tries to get info from them. There's just so many ways to express oneself these days why deal.with apps that are both fleeting and intrusive?
Trump favored a TikTok ban in 2020...not a Biden thing...
We've been complacent for a long time -- with the fall of the USSR 35 years ago many people became optimistic about a world of sharing, peace, and openness. Then, we returned to a classic Great Power conflict with the US, Russia, China, and a penitent post-WW2 EU as the major players.
The issue here is mass tracking and putting the very effective Chinese government in a position of disabling US devices and monitoring sensitive communication. China should be stopped. Mark Zuckerberg should be stopped. Twitter was put on a semi-leash by Musk.
"No one has ever explained what the Chinese were doing on their APP that was so terrible....."
It has been explained in great detail, even right here on this blog, both in posts, articles and commentary. However, no person can comprehend it for another.
Any discussion about the pernicious effect of high wages can be accompanied with photos of long lines of folks waiting to get into stores with empty shelves for that last roll of toilet paper in the aftermath of the implementation of the ideas of Marx and Engels. Other photos of the Black Sea dachas and hard currency stores available to party officials might also help the doe-eyed understand the true nature of those social systems.
What's this "we" shit ? Some of us, non-lib, sane people paying attention, were appalled that Diane feinstein's driver was allowed to be her driver for 20 years despite being identified as a chicom spy many,many years ago. Or Eric swallwell screwing a chicom spy for years, employing her in his office, and who knows what else. But, the fbi determined that, that wasn't anything of concern. Which he brags about still. Debbie wasserman schultz had iranians with ties to the irpg working in her office and had access to every congressman emails. That too disappeared from the public eye and he was allowed to return to Iran. A valid question is, who is protecting and suppressing this info and why ? Maybe some of the deep state people should be coerced into answering questions. Particularly since the bulk of them are democrats and the people involved are/were democrats. The deliberate incuriousness is disturbing.
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It's one of the sorrows of humanity that our best efforts to help -- say, banning TikTok to reduce Chinese influence and infiltration -- end up causing the opposite effect.
There is no question that folks like dopey Zers will fall for this stuff being so fresh and idealistic and all. The solution is to put up a post about the ideas of Adam Smith and Friedrich Hayek.
- Krumhorn
Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your chairs.
Not Mine, but...
https://www.city-journal.org/article/will-the-left-disrupt-the-inauguration
There's plenty gettin ready for the inauguration.
Does anyone really know who is running the country right now?
Garrison caps would be better than the cat ears, if they're still setting up.
Don’t know, but the SOBs have Satan on retainer.
When Communism was first proposed in the 1800s and early 1900s, one could forgive people for believing that it was a new political system that would free the masses. Today, anyone who believes in Communism is an idiot.
As someone who has actually read Adam Smith: "Our merchants and masters complain much of the bad effects of high wages in raising the price and lessening the sale of goods. They say nothing concerning the bad effects of high profits. They are silent with regard to the pernicious effects of their own gains. They complain only of those of other people.”
Maybe Marx and Engels believed that claim but maybe they were just throwing it against the wall to see what sticks.
How long until China region locks that app?
Ace (@aoshq) who usually has a good handle on tech news says Rednote (the Chinese name actually translates to "Little Red Book") is also primarily a CCP spyware app. Here's a couple of random news items:
1. Chinese hacking and successful penetration of corporate and government computer systems has increased dramatically in the last year (including Treasury Department acknowledged this week).
2. We used to have excellent tech reporting from dedicated sites like Wired, where I believe I first saw the ugly details of what TikTok actually did behind the facade. Unfortunately those sites went woke and partisan and generally lost their audience their revenue stream and their good writers.
I was just thinking the same thing after hearing a family member excoriate Trump. They never seem to realize their side can and at some point will be just as bad as they claim the other side is.
Marx and Engels believed that, but instead found a way for their adherents to be totalitarian authoritarian mass murderers more efficient than any in history. Makes me want to believe in Hell, for their sake.
"Under capitalism, one man exploits another, under communism, it's the other way around" - Old Soviet Joke.
We did pretty good in the Indian Wars.
Class-disordered ideologies, Diversity, equity, and inclusion. Take a knee for progress and a slice of cake. The Chinese ruling class hasn't changed. The activists have adopted and adapted a new, pehaps green deal. One-child is NOW selective-child and other interesting changes. The only question is who is to be master.
Per my comment earlier this morning, see this video about Rednote from a guy who lived in China for several years and is married to a Chinese woman. Per his comments, Rednote is rapidly being turned into TikTok 2.0 with the same internal/foreign rule split:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjWairkG9lw
What is this, RedBook? My prediction is, any Chinese app that comes out to fill the gaps left by TikTok will not be designed to capture less data from its users, but more, and with greater stealth. It's devolved into the same kind of escalation game as cop radar, and radar detectors.
Ban map
jaq. Until we industrialized the Indians pretty much held their own.
No one has ever explained what the Chinese were doing on their APP that was so terrible. They were never specific. "Infiltration" "Spyware" "influence" "ID theft" are just vague buzz words.
If we were so concerned about "Chinese Foreign influence" we wouldn't allow Chinese citizens to work in our labs, high tech firm, and RD faciliites. Nor would be allow Chinese dual citizens to lobby or work for our Congessmen.
Or allow millions of foreigners to pour accross our borders and vote in elections.
But we dont. And suddenly, a social media platform is the danger. We know who was really behind this. First, the American group that wants to buy Tik Tok on the cheap. Second, the ADL and other Leftists who hated Tik Tok for allowing free speech The Israel media has been disussing the "TIk TOK problem" ever since October 2023.
IRC, Tik Tok was the only social media platform that told Biden's DHS/FBI censors to go to hell.
Free markets always work.
As one who has also read Adam Smith, I take that quote to be more an ironic comment about human nature than a critique of capitalism.
Via Reddit: They didn’t wait around
Free markets, free of arbitrage including monopolies and practices, are adaptive, optimizing to be representative of a reconciliation of supply and demand.
Yes, but socialism need not "creep" any more. More of a full gallop. McCarthy was on to something back there. Here we are, in bed with the CCP.
As Neil said, a kinder gentler machine gun.
Yep! I have a 12 and 10yr old. Both have phones but only my 12yr old has a line connected to it. Neither have any interest in tiktok. My 12yr old is currently halfway through the unabridged Les Miserables (PRINT version) and my son does spend a lot of time with Roblox but also is a very advanced reader. Both are athletic. We sort of have screen time limits and I have Family Link and keep watch but they just don't care about the online obsessed apps. Weel my daughter loves the Golden State Warriors so does watch a lot of NBA.com
They just have very different interests than what I here are out there. And we talk to them a lot. There's a lot of bad stuff out there, too much to police so teaching kids to discern is key and to have other interests. But I am definitely alert to anything that tries to get info from them. There's just so many ways to express oneself these days why deal.with apps that are both fleeting and intrusive?
Trump favored a TikTok ban in 2020...not a Biden thing...
We've been complacent for a long time -- with the fall of the USSR 35 years ago many people became optimistic about a world of sharing, peace, and openness. Then, we returned to a classic Great Power conflict with the US, Russia, China, and a penitent post-WW2 EU as the major players.
The issue here is mass tracking and putting the very effective Chinese government in a position of disabling US devices and monitoring sensitive communication. China should be stopped. Mark Zuckerberg should be stopped. Twitter was put on a semi-leash by Musk.
Communism kills - everything.
"No one has ever explained what the Chinese were doing on their APP that was so terrible....."
It has been explained in great detail, even right here on this blog, both in posts, articles and commentary. However, no person can comprehend it for another.
Any discussion about the pernicious effect of high wages can be accompanied with photos of long lines of folks waiting to get into stores with empty shelves for that last roll of toilet paper in the aftermath of the implementation of the ideas of Marx and Engels. Other photos of the Black Sea dachas and hard currency stores available to party officials might also help the doe-eyed understand the true nature of those social systems.
- Krumhorn
Aggie nails it +++++
What's this "we" shit ? Some of us, non-lib, sane people paying attention, were appalled that Diane feinstein's driver was allowed to be her driver for 20 years despite being identified as a chicom spy many,many years ago. Or Eric swallwell screwing a chicom spy for years, employing her in his office, and who knows what else. But, the fbi determined that, that wasn't anything of concern. Which he brags about still. Debbie wasserman schultz had iranians with ties to the irpg working in her office and had access to every congressman emails. That too disappeared from the public eye and he was allowed to return to Iran. A valid question is, who is protecting and suppressing this info and why ? Maybe some of the deep state people should be coerced into answering questions. Particularly since the bulk of them are democrats and the people involved are/were democrats. The deliberate incuriousness is disturbing.
whatever data stream is flowing in and out to China servers = is it hard to echo back to USAlphabet agency?
There's a lot of things we could do to be more like Communist China if that's where you want to go.
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