१३ डिसेंबर, २०२४

"Many women start struggling with new facial hair growth later in life.... Some said they had made friends or relatives promise to pluck their hairs for them..."

"... if they ever ended up in a hospital or a care facility. 'We made a pact: When we were old and maybe unable to care for ourselves, each of us would make sure that hairy ugliness wasn’t noticeable on the other,' said Debbie Russell, 68. But there is the possibility of finding peace with age, too. 'To me, my facial hair feels like a part of my gender identity, and since menopause I have a little goatee now, which I shave,' said Mitzi Cowell, 60, 'but I dream of the day when I can just grow it out, braid it.'"

From "Is Facial Hair the Last Taboo in Women’s Beauty? Millions of women regularly remove it. Does it have to be that way?" (NYT).

Also: "Women with facial hair have been documented throughout history, often in ways that make current attitudes seem modest. (Take, for example, Annie Jones, P.T. Barnum’s bearded lady, who was billed in his circus as a 'freak' — a term Jones protested.)"

From that link about Annie Jones: "Annie Jones was born in Virginia in 1865, reportedly exiting her mother’s womb with her chin already covered in hair.... Jones was not even a year old when her parents first pushed her into P.T. Barnum’s exhibition in New York City. The tiny girl was billed as 'The Infant Esau'.... As time went on, the 'Infant Esau' grew into the 'Esau Lady' and, eventually, the 'Bearded Lady.'"

३२ टिप्पण्या:

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

Men die on average about ten years younger than women, but the real tragedy is that women grow some facial hair as they age. How in the hell did the word “taboo” enter into this self-pity fest? Hell, I’ve had surgery to remove a growth from my nose, and I live with the disfigurement and I don’t bitch about it or let it affect my social life. I’m 75, for God’s sake. Approaching death isn’t pretty.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

You're misreading the article if you see it as a "self-pity fest"!

Maybe you won't read the whole article because there's a paywall, but think a bit about the emotion behind a line like "I dream of the day when I can just grow it out, braid it.'" That's not pity. That's exploration into the possibility of joy.

By the way, in many religions and in some philosophy, "approaching death" does involve wisdom and joy. To scoff "isn't pretty" seems woefully lacking. That woe is, ironically, self-pity.

I think you are letting misogyny drag you down.

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

Have you ever considered junking this misogyny bullshit? It’s stupid. Just stop blabbing this nonsense. Now, I like you a lot, Ann, but we’re all idiots about some things. This is your idiot thing.

bgates म्हणाले...

Is Facial Hair the Last Taboo in Women’s Beauty? as if there weren't thousands of women - among the most beautiful women - who had full, luxurious beards. This article is virtual genocide against trans women, and I am Literally Shaking.

Wince म्हणाले...

Misogyny, from menopause to Fu Manchu.

Valentine Smith म्हणाले...

No please don’t no. If I have to shave my ears, women have to shave their bloody chins.

Enigma म्हणाले...

Beauty is a predictable concept worldwide: The most average looking person is the most beautiful, while non-average proportions will be seen a "plain" or "ugly." Youth (smooth skin) is also widely considered more attractive than wrinkled skin. This has been tested by digitally combining faces -- the more you merge the better the fictional woman looks.

As such, female facial hair will never be organically beautiful to most people. Hair is more common among older women, but that's a niche. Facial hair is relatively rare with fertile women. Hairless women are the normative (average; common; dominant) functional targets of sexual attraction. They therefore define beauty simply by being common.

n.n म्हणाले...

Misogyny is denying sex and conflating with gender. Misogyny is feminism, it is masculinism, it is socially progressive. It is Diversity.

People: both men and women, do what they can, when they can, within reason, to normalize a favorable juxtaposition of the sexes.

n.n म्हणाले...

What a "burden". Uh, burden. Men and women also bathe, and undergo other cosmetic treatments.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

Eyebrows and eyelashes are facial hair.

There have been times when those hairs were plucked.

Breezy म्हणाले...

Eyelashes were plucked?

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"unable to care for ourselves, each of us would make sure that hairy ugliness wasn’t noticeable on the other"

Priorities.

Christopher B म्हणाले...

Some people (like my wife) have their eyebrows shaved off and replaced with tattoos with a more pleasing shape.

Christopher B म्हणाले...

(golf clap)

Aggie म्हणाले...

It's a new tag! Misogyny Bullsh*t I have a feeling as DEI dies its ugly death over the next few years, that we'll be seeing a lot of this being trotted out as a false raison d'etre.

n.n म्हणाले...

My mother complains that it's too hot. My father complains that it's too cold. She lowers the thermostat, he raises it, climate change.

Cacimbo म्हणाले...

After viewing photos of Annie Jones I wonder if she was not born intersex. The neck, breasts, brows.. all present very masculine. She also married twice yet no reports of any pregnancies.

Eva Marie म्हणाले...

If the only thing you have to struggle with later in life is a few stray hairs - shut up and enjoy your good fortune.

Disparity of Cult म्हणाले...

Debbie Russell could ditch the pact and have a few appointments with a competent electrologist. But that might not be enough drama for her.

Curious George म्हणाले...

Not facial hair Althouse.

https://luxeluminous.com/are-eyebrows-considered-facial-hair/

john mosby म्हणाले...

Val Smith: yes, ear hair. Not to mention painful nostril waxing! The Curse of Adam….

JSM

Dogma and Pony Show म्हणाले...

"Is Facial Hair the Last Taboo in Women’s Beauty? Millions of women regularly remove it. Does it have to be that way?"

Yes.

Wince म्हणाले...

What about nipple hair?

My first job out of high school was in left-wing non-profit office. A tall, thin, very attractive raven-haired woman, a few years older than me, was a volunteer in the office. One day she bent over my desk with loose neckline and no bra underneath. Surely she knew this teenage boy could not avert his eyes?

There were no tan lines to her olive skin as her cleavage formed small but beautiful breasts. Surrounding her nipples were coarse but straight pubic hairs. I had never seen anything like that before.

Even as I could not unglue my eyes, I could not tell if I was being invited or I was trespassing. Did she want me to see? Was she looking for my acceptance? Was it seduction?

Because I was so young and acculturating to the left-wing academic milieu, as well as being a pretty shy person, I tried to be professional. I hadn't yet witnessed the absolute misogynistic hypocrisy that was rampant on the organized left.

Man, looking back, I should have gotten to know her better and asked her out for a drink and see what happened. Maybe she needed my approval?

mikee म्हणाले...

Your comment has great rythm, a 5/4, 5/4,7/4/3 syllable cadence that reads beautifully. I had to count to make sure it wasn't just a longer form of a haiku. Thank you for the delightful experience.

mikee म्हणाले...

What a funny old place this world would be if we were all the same. "Bodies don't come with instruction manuals or troubleshooting guides," I was once told by an old guy, "But it would sure help if they did."

Marcus Bressler म्हणाले...

A woman I work with shaves the facial hair under her chin. I feel for her. Perhaps it doesn't bother her at all. That's my take, maybe not hers. I remember the first time I saw nipple hair on a teenage girl. I was sorta shocked, but I had rarely seen nipples, much less nipple hair on a teenage girl. She became a very successful scientist and I think she is a lesbian, -- but that is just conjecture and not related to nipple hair, though I thought at the time that if I were a girl, I would pluck it. Can't hurt more than plucking nose hair. She had nipple hair - only a few strands -- because she had jet black hair. Later in life, I met more women with nipple hair and hair at that rear entrance, but they were all black-haired. It was not as shocking.

Anthony म्हणाले...

I tell people that we Men don't actually lose our hair, it just starts coming out of our nose and ears. (I finally broke down and regularly get both sets of orifices waxed. Painful, but it's only 10 minutes a month)

loudogblog म्हणाले...

When I was in college in the 80s, I knew a woman who had facial hair. Her "solution" was to bleach it. But since her skin was olive, it actually made it stand out more.

cfs म्हणाले...

Lordy lordy. Of things I'm concerned about at age 60+, body hair is not even on the list. I've gone from having to shave my legs every other day to thinking about it once a month (and many times just letting it go another week since it's not really that noticeable). I have no hair where there used to be lots of hair. I have hair growing where there used to be none. Yes. I have a little mustache, but I'm not worried about it.

Hubby has put up with me for 45+ years and my body has changed a lot over those years. A tiny 100lb girl at marriage and then a 150 plump pregnant women a few years later. I kept 25 of those pounds until recently, but I'm now almost back at that 100 lbs. My body has changed. So has his. That's life. So what? The deal was for better or worse, etc.

Some people become fixated on the most unimportant things.

gilbar म्हणाले...




Pelosi, 84, joined a bipartisan group of lawmakers to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the Battle of the Bulge in the Western European nation — but was injured and later “admitted to the hospital for evaluation,” according to her spokesman Ian Krager.

“Speaker Emerita Pelosi is currently receiving excellent treatment from doctors and medical professionals,” Krager said in a statement

so.. Speaker Emerita?
what does THAT mean? let's ask!
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emerita
emeritus —used of a woman

so, let's look at "emeritus"!
emeritus
adjective
1
: holding after retirement an honorary title corresponding to that held last during active service
2
: retired from an office or position

SO! according to Pelosi spokesman Ian Krager.. Nancy is OFFICIALLY Retired.
Because.. THAT'S WHAT THE Definition SAYS!

ps Professor, i checked and double checked my slanties and bolds.
If there are STILL problems let me know, and i'll quit entirely

pps i firgue that 'women struggling with facial hair' was the closest fit for this

gilbar म्हणाले...

i was with a girl back in the '80's that had THREE coarse but straight hairs on her left breast.. It was VERY distracting, and i felt that LASERS could have helped

GingerBeer म्हणाले...

Does Frida Kahlo count?