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"The chief justice’s Feb. 22 memo, jump-starting the justices’ formal discussion on whether to hear the case... tore into the appellate court opinion greenlighting Mr. Trump’s trial..."

"... calling it inadequate and poorly reasoned. On one key point, he complained, the lower court judges 'failed to grapple with the most difficult questions altogether.' He wrote not only that the Supreme Court should take the case — which would stall the trial — but also how the justices should decide it. 'I think it likely that we will view the separation of powers analysis differently' from the appeals court, he wrote. In other words: grant Mr. Trump greater protection from prosecution."

From "How Roberts Shaped Trump’s Supreme Court Winning Streak/Behind the scenes, the chief justice molded three momentous Jan. 6 and election cases that helped determine the former president’s fate" (NYT)(reporting based on hearing from "several people from the court who saw the document").

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robother म्हणाले...

Kagan. Again.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

Nothing sacred.

Aggie म्हणाले...

..."The chief justice responded by deploying his authority to steer rulings that benefited Mr. Trump, according to a New York Times examination that uncovered extensive new information about the court’s decision making...."

Oh look, it's almost like Cause & Effect the way we put it, now isn't that nice? No mention of that whole 'letter of law' thingie.

"...Although the judgment was 9 to 0, the justices had not reached true agreement...." ?? Ok, then. USSC decisions are not decisions until everbody reaches true agreement ! Please refer to our Style Guide on the strictly controlled uses of the word 'Unanimous'.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

So "several people from the court who saw the document" eh? Clerks. Lawyers. Sneaky lawyers who leak, lie* and smear. I'm sensing a theme today.

*If they failed to tell CJ Roberts what they were doing they are lying by omission and by violating their duty to the court.

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

Shorter NYT: "Who is this Donald Trump and why does he think he's entitled to a speedy and fair trial?"

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"reporting based on hearing from 'several people from the court who saw the document'"

SCOTUS is quite the leaky ship, isn't it?

Dixcus म्हणाले...

The Supreme Court's entire email and document database has been stolen by Democrat insiders and provided to the NYTimes.

That is unfathomable election interference by Democrat Party operatives within the court.

Money Manger म्हणाले...

The WSJ lead editorial today does a great job of taking this hit piece down. Their finger seems to point to the wise latina.

Gerda Sprinchorn म्हणाले...

I'm confused. It is supposed to be some sort of scandal that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court "shaped" a SC opinion and analyzed the merits of the case to "shape" that opinion?

narciso म्हणाले...

Oh noes...anyways

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Another leak from SCOTUS. When Trump wins, expect way more leaks, or outright lies characterized as leaks, by the NYT.

Wince म्हणाले...

"I think it likely that we will view the separation of powers analysis differently" from the appeals court, he wrote. In other words: grant Mr. Trump [and all presidents] greater protection from [politically motivated] prosecution.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Kagan is doing this.

David53 म्हणाले...

As the court split 6 to 3, conservatives versus liberals, Justice Sotomayor started work on a five-alarm dissent warning of danger to democracy.

There's that term again, danger to democracy.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

'I think it likely that we will view the separation of powers analysis differently' from the appeals court, he wrote. In other words: We are going to consider the full scope of the question beyond the target in this case.

Fixed it for you.

Whiskeybum म्हणाले...

Battle prep for an overhaul of the USSC

rehajm म्हणाले...

Frankly I fail to see how this is supposed to be a hit piece for scotus. Rather it exposes the inferior court as lacking judicial competence at least, or is politically corrupt at worst.

rehajm म्हणाले...

Yes, I suppose all the old ladies who lack standing on the abortion issue are gnashing their teeth at this wishing someone would help remove the backlog from Trump assassins for another assignment…

Aggie म्हणाले...

I guess handling these recurring leaks in-house, with no disclosure of investigatory findings and no firings or prosecutions, is letting us all enjoy a Glorious New Communications Future, Comrade.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Roberts failed the nation when he voted with the majority not to hear Texas vs PA. He probably "shaped" that cowardly opinion as well, and legitimized absentee voter fraud. We can never get back to pre-2020 elections.

doctrev म्हणाले...

If only there was an explanation why this particular judge has been on the wrong end of every major decision compared to American Christians.

Inga म्हणाले...

“In his writings on the immunity case, the chief justice seemed confident that his arguments would soar above politics, persuade the public, and stand the test of time. His opinion cited “enduring principles,” quoted Alexander Hamilton’s endorsement of a vigorous presidency, and asserted it would be a mistake to dwell too much on Mr. Trump’s actions. “In a case like this one, focusing on ‘transient results’ may have profound consequences for the separation of powers and for the future of our Republic,” he wrote. “Our perspective must be more farsighted.”

But the public response to the decision, announced in July on the final day of the term, was nothing like what his lofty phrases seemed to anticipate.”

Roberts seemed to be untethered to today’s world. Did he seriously think that the majority of Americans wouldn’t see his decision as one that gives the Executive branch an unequal amount of power? Naive? Or corrupt?

henge2243 म्हणाले...

Seems to me that the Democrats feel like they're going to lose.

David-2 म्हणाले...

See also Josh Blackman's analysis at The Volokh Conspiracy - https://reason.com/volokh/2024/09/15/the-trump-leaks-are-far-worse-than-the-dobbs-leak/

Dixcus म्हणाले...

They're couching a Supreme Court justice convincing his colleagues to vote a certain way on a case as "meddling." And claiming it's some sort of controversial tactic requiring secret leaks.

Talk about wearing your L's.

Aught Severn म्हणाले...

If it is true that the majority of Americans now see the Executive branch as having an unequal amount of power, there is a very straightforward process to correct that: amend the constitution. 2/3rds of house and senate, 3/4 of the states. Over half of the electorate being in favor would give a good impetus to the amendment... if it were actually true that that is how a majority of the electorate thinks. Color me doubtful on that point.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

This would explain a lot, since the United States isn't a Democracy. You would think a Constitutional lawyer would know that. But then again, you'd think they could define a word as simple as "woman," too I guess. Doesn't seem that there's too much smarts on the DEI side of the Supreme Court.

mindnumbrobot म्हणाले...

I find it hard to believe the justices not leaking aren't furious about the actions of the one who is. This is incredibly reckless.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

Roberts' failure to the nation began when he ruled ObamaCare was a tax.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

They are not acting like Harris has a 4-point lead over Trump, that's for sure. They wouldn't still be trying to murder him.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

Is there only ONE who is leaking? Can there not be multiple justices all leaking?

mindnumbrobot म्हणाले...

Somebody seems to have stumbled across a legitimate point. Roberts does seem naive about the intellectual bankruptcy and radicalism of today's Democrat party.

Biff म्हणाले...

I hope they are beefing up personal security details for SCOTUS members.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

You don't need court leaks, you could have just asked me about the structural issues. That is, it's obvious.

Greg The Class Traitor म्हणाले...

Bingo

calling it inadequate and poorly reasoned.
Because that's what it was.

On one key point, he complained, the lower court judges 'failed to grapple with the most difficult questions altogether.'
And he was correct

He wrote not only that the Supreme Court should take the case — which would stall the trial — but also how the justices should decide it. 'I think it likely that we will view the separation of powers analysis differently' from the appeals court, he wrote.
Because the appeals court blew it for partisan political reasons, and that was obvious to anyone reading their screed (calling it an "opinion" gives it too much credit).

When one side is pure partisan hackery, on the other side will be everyone honest, as well as all the other side's partisan hacks.

I am shocked, shocked that the NYT only hires writers who can not even conceive of someone approaching a question honestly. They are all partisan hacks, so everyone else must be a partisan hack, too.

It can't be that Roberts' memo correct discussed teh glaringly obvious problems with a garbage decision, it must be he's just a partisan for the other side.

Roberts is the Establishment tool who often voted 5-4 with the Left to illegitimately strike down legitimate Trump Admin decisions (see DACA repeal). Attempting to claim he's some sort of Trump partisan is the ne plus ultra of stupidity

cfs म्हणाले...

It's Kagan. She or one of her staff attorneys is the leaker.

Greg The Class Traitor म्हणाले...

But the public response to the decision, announced in July on the final day of the term, was nothing like what his lofty phrases seemed to anticipate.”

Bullshit.

The Left's response was whiny. No one else cared.

As can be seen by the reality that Trump is winning the election

Mr. D म्हणाले...

The decisions had to go as they did. If Trump wins, he’ll have every reason to retaliate against Biden and Obama for what they’ve done to him, but the decisions will protect them as well.

Drago म्हणाले...

"I think it likely that we will view the separation of powers analysis differently' from the appeals court, he wrote. In other words: grant Mr. Trump greater protection from prosecution."

Alternatively, it has been clear from Day 1 of this New Soviet Democratical orangeman-bad-is-the-only-reason-we-need lawfare that blatantly unconstitutional lower court actions are.....blatantly unconstitutional.

Inga and her russia russia russia collusion hoax lunatics hardest hit.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

If it ever looks like it is certain that Trump is going to be elected a second time, I would be very, very cautious if I were a SCOTUS justice with the name of Thomas, Roberts, Alito, Kavanaugh, Barrett, or Gorsuch for the next 4 months.

hombre म्हणाले...

Yes, everything about Roberts' past, including his appointing President suggest that he is likely a Trump devotee./s The most disturbing thing about leftmedia domination of the national conversation is that they are stupid and/or evil.

robother म्हणाले...

As the WSJ notes, "also leaked is an account of the private conversation among the Justices after an oral argument." Who but a Justice could do that? And this is of course the ultimate threat to the deliberative process. So either Kagan or Sotomayor is gladly blowing up the SCOTUS in the name of her partisan agenda. Sadly, no surprise there.

Dixcus म्हणाले...

Joe Biden BRAGGED about not following Supreme Court decisions in the school loan case. They have figured out we won't shoot them no matter what they do.

Lazarus म्हणाले...

Meanwhile ... no word on who leaked the Dobbs abortion decision draft ...

Curious George म्हणाले...

just three

Mr Wibble म्हणाले...

I stick with my theory: Sotomayor gave a copy of Alito's draft to the white house as a heads up, and they leaked it to politico because they were desperate for some change to the news cycle.

Michael K म्हणाले...

That was a historic error.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Now we have Inga the law professor.

james म्हणाले...

Hum. The mere fact that Robert's opinion was unpersuasive to you doesn't tell one anything about what people who read or think about SCOTUS decisions thought about it. It does confirm for us that you are incapable of transcending your partisan biases.
The fact that the biggest squish (possibly excepting ACB) felt so strongly about the issue ought to be a hint.

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

I'm old enough to remember that Roberts was going to leave no stone unturned to get to the bottom of it, and find and punish the Dobbs leaker.

And did nothing.

Not a surprise that nobody seems to be too scared of the consequences of leaking anymore.

Iman म्हणाले...

So the fat, cigar smoking liberal justice is a criminal?

Signs and wonders… signs and wonders…

lamech म्हणाले...

David-2 is correct:
"See also Josh Blackman's analysis at The Volokh Conspiracy - https://reason.com/volokh/2024/09/15/the-trump-leaks-are-far-worse-than-the-dobbs-leak/"

as is robother
"Kagan. Again."