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"And I was concerned if I stayed in the race, that would be the topic — you’d be interviewing me about why did Nancy Pelosi say [something] … and I thought it’d be a real distraction..."

Garbled Joe Biden, quoted in "Biden admits he was pushed out of presidential race, name-drops Pelosi in first interview since exit" (NY Post).

I can't understand what he was trying to say about Pelosi. The Post sums it up this way: "President Biden admitted he was pushed out of the presidential race by Democratic Party elites and specifically name-dropped former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as one of the perpetrators in his first TV interview since the tectonic news last month."

Specifically... I'd say it's pretty unspecific, but hers is the one name he said. See if you can get more out of it than I did:

१०१ टिप्पण्या:

Michael म्हणाले...

Nancy Pelosi is the only one of two people in Washington who can give orders to the President (the other is Mitch McConnell). She has raw power.

doctrev म्हणाले...

Nancy Pelosi has little power. Particularly now. The donors she represents have quite a bit. But then again, they aren't as smart as they think they are, and the sugar high of punting out Biden might not be worth it if Kamablah is the alternative.

imTay म्हणाले...

I can't wait for the stories that are going to come out in the mainstream media to fully destroy the Delaware mafia around Biden, as soon as the election is over. Nobody wants these sleezebags back anywhere near power.

Dixie म्हणाले...

Joe Biden was threatened. He was told by a group of conspirators that if he did not withdraw from the race, then they would remove him from office via the 25th Amendment. He acceeded to the threat, and that threat was removed. He is now finishing out his term.

This was a coup. A felony crime. And the conspirators, one would hope, will be arrested by the Attorney General appointed by Donald J. Trump in January of 2024.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Joe might get confused enough to tell the truth.

Dixie म्हणाले...

She is third in line for the Presidency. Should something happen to Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi could be the first female President of the United States. I fear for Ms. Harris' safety.

doctrev म्हणाले...

Dixie
She is third in line for the Presidency. Should something happen to Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi could be the first female President of the United States. I fear for Ms. Harris' safety.
8/11/24, 1:27 PM

Even if the presidential succession wasn't apparently ruled on like Calvinball, Mike Johnson is Speaker of the House. Not Nancy Pelosi. Her husband has more to fear from gay rent boys than she does from anyone else.

Mark म्हणाले...

Dixie seems to have completely forgotten Mike Johnson and the hilarious drama of his selection.

But don't worry, their analysis is fact free so not impacted by their ignorance of facts.

Jersey Fled म्हणाले...

Joe wants to hang in there until he can pardon Hunter et al. We sometimes forget that Joe is still President. I predict the pardons will come after the election but before the new president is sworn in.

Hunter is looking at 15 years for income tax evasion, and it looks like Weiss isn’t messing around this time.

DavidD म्हणाले...

“You’d be interviewing me about why did Nancy Pelosi say, why did so-and-so….”

He didn’t say what she would have been supposed to have said; he just name-dropped her.

Iman म्हणाले...

I watched it this morning. That was such a hard-hitting interview, /sarc.

That Bob Costa should find another line of work.

Mr. Majestyk म्हणाले...

So Biden, who's ot run ing, gives an I terrier, but Hafris, who is running hasn't? Yeah, that makes total sense. And the zombies will continue to mindlessly support this empty pantsuit.

Bill in Glendale म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Mr. Majestyk म्हणाले...

Haha, should proofread my comment. What i meant to say was, you know, the thing ... whatever. Anyway.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

Well, Nancy did say something, and would have leaked her saying something if he had refused, and that would have been used against Joe, and so . . .

rehajm म्हणाले...

It looks weak that his handlers and George Clooney pushed him out of the race and not weak for Joe, nobody gives a shit. Nancy is the closest thing to a public leader in the democrat party…

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

"Nazi Pelosi and the other leaders were coming out of the fields, carrying torches and thumb drives, singing that same old 25th Amendment song, that's when I knew I had to do something."

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

I wonder how many takes they had to do to get this scripted creation in the can.

Balfegor म्हणाले...

Still wearing that orange spray-tan, I see.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Badass Joey, who taught CornPop a lesson down at the old swimmin' hole, didn't have the guts to stay in the race. Look at the difference in his demeanor compared to the debate. Obvious his handlers overdosed him on his drugs prior to debate
. Instead of standing up to his friends who stabbed him in the back, he scurries away like a frightened rat.
The Biden name will be joke for now on.
What an embarrassment and a disgrace. Dr. Jill and Hunter avoid being seen with Joey since he lay down and quit.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

In another clip he tried to say (I think) that there will be violence if Trump doesn't win. He's right. If the Dems steal another election and that idiot Harris is declared the winner, there might be violence. But there will be violence for sure if Harris wins. The "blackshirts" of the Dem party (BLM) will go on another rioting spree. This time I hope they burn down K street and Georgetown, but it will be Chicago, LA and Atlanta.

Paddy O म्हणाले...

So everyone on the Right said he wasn't capable of running and when they finally agreed, it's a scandal? Maybe it shouldn't have been pushed so hard until after the convention. And the media certainly should do its job rather than taking marching orders from Democrats. But it seems like it is actually taking the clear issue as seriously as it should have e been. And threatening to use the 25th amendment is only a coup if there wasn't a clear reason to use it. Letting Biden finish his term instead seems like a compromise lest it make replacing him very messy for Dems.

I dint agree at all with Biden, Pelosi, the media who let this happen without honest coverage, or Dems, but this doesn't really seem a scandal unless getting what so many Rs demanded is somehow now a scandal.

Bill in Glendale म्हणाले...

If the 25th threat was valid, why does he get six more months?

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Watching the clip, as opposed to the debate, would seem Joe's articulation varies with speed of eye blinking.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

I’ve always associated the term “name dropping” with the need for validation. Maybe I’m wrong about that. I’ve never looked it up.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Never gets old:

Beau
my word as a Biden
Neo Nazis

Lazarus म्हणाले...

Apparently, Pelosi threatened to say something if Biden didn't withdraw. Would that just be "Joe should go! Go, Joe, go!" or would it be a revelation of something that Joe doesn't want made public? Something about the current state of Biden's health, or something darker and more damaging? Maybe about Joe's health. Pelosi doesn't want to tear the party apart with a scandalous revelation, but just saying "I don't like Joe anymore and think he should end his campaign" or "I have authorized Vice President Harris permission to proceed with the 25th Amendment process" (authorization that Harris doesn't legally need) doesn't sound threatening enough.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Biden has given one more interview than Harris has. Here's hoping 2024 Chicago is like 1968 Chicago. The Dems earned it.

imTay म्हणाले...

In Dixie's defense, the press sure acts like Pelosi is still Speaker.

n.n म्हणाले...

Pelosi-rrection part deux. #HimToo

n.n म्हणाले...

Apparently, Pelosi threatened to say something if Biden didn't withdraw

Democracy dies in darkness. Demos-cracy, too.

walter म्हणाले...

Johnson was "selected" via a process that included such trivialities as votes.

DanTheMan म्हणाले...

They said: Save Democracy!
They meant: Save Democrats!

Goldenpause म्हणाले...

Does Biden even remember what happened or is he repeating what others are telling him?

Goldenpause म्हणाले...

Does Biden even remember what happened or is he repeating what others are telling him?

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

Trump's silver bullet was Biden’s age. Now that the Democrats replaced Biden, all the moderates will vote for Harris because there is no reason to vote for Trump anymore.

Trump’s age and diminished presence are evident. Over half the electorate views him as too old, and his increasingly incoherent rhetoric is alienating even his base. His VP pick is historically unpopular, while Walz enjoys high approval ratings. Despite the long road ahead, Trump’s campaign struggles to reverse the shifting momentum.

robother म्हणाले...

His Presidency is still hanging by a thread. How specific can he really be? If polls start to turn around on Harris, say, after a September debate, who would put it past Democrats to force Joe out completely, so Kamala can shoot for a second honeymoon period? At this point--after attempting to bankrupt, imprison, and kill Trump--I'd put nothing past them.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Here is Rich pretending that Harris is more popular than Biden despite every poll in the world before the coup saying differently. Then magic happens and now Harris is popular somehow.

I am going to stop insulting clapping seals. You are way dumber than a clapping seal.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

He brings up all the relevant topics just not connected syntactically.

DINKY DAU 45 म्हणाले...

One group was able to rectify that the battle of "GERIATRICS" had to end and put up a solution that is now moving forward in polling,$$$ and real enthusiasm while the other side are stuck with the "old man ",visibly glitching and doing a campaign from inside his home and making trips to (Montana?) and will not only lose but ironically be defeated by not only a "BLACK" (she just turned Black )BUT A WOMAN AT THAT. That's gotta leave a mark. Losing is difficult and even worse when you cant get over it..STAND BACK AND STAND BY! The perp will soon only be heard about from court hearings and trials upcoming..Move ahead not back into the fear mongering stone age.No one who thinks banning the Constitution is a good thing and that person should never stand in front of that seal again and that's happening soon. Joe had to Go and it was a great thing the powers that be on one side knew a lemon when they saw one,,the other side is just stuck with a loser.Yo got a Problem,listen to the Hook and let the DJ resolve it!

Drago म्हणाले...

There is a reason no new national poll has been released since last Thursday by the usual suspect orgs to be added to the RCP averages, other than Rasmussen, ....

....because the honeymoon with kamala has already fizzled badly.

Forcing the dems to start grabbing Trump policies, hiding their candidates even more, using ActBlue's corrupt practices⁷ to launder hundreds of millions of dollars of foreign money, paying "rally" attendees up to $225 a piece to attend invitation only (!) events, and where kamala's digital director had to take his social media off line after being called out for all the 6-finger/4 arm people added into the "photos" and "videos"!

In a typical campaign, polls are dropping every single day....but as with everything else New Soviet Democratical, not so much any more.

LOL

We all know why.

imTay म्हणाले...

He almost seems all there. The man needed the rest, and he needs to be allowed to retire.

exhelodrvr1 म्हणाले...

If Biden hadn’t always been such an asshole, I might feel sorry for him

Drago म्हणाले...

Btw, did you see how many MORE videos dropped today of Stolen Valor / Blue Falcon Walz doing his Stolen Valot thing?

This guy must have spent time each and every day for decades pulking his Stolen Valor schtick to have generated this many examples!

Here's oe of about more that popped up just today:

https://x.com/joma_gc/status/1822669077921276095?t=b6RKNmcci8OU30WD1AolZg&s=19

Clyde म्हणाले...

Coup-coup for cocoa puffs.

Drago म्हणाले...

Btw, did you see how many MORE videos dropped today of Stolen Valor / Blue Falcon Walz doing his Stolen Valor thing?

This guy must have spent time each and every day for decades pulling his Stolen Valor schtick to have generated this many examples!

Here's one of about five more that popped up just today:

https://x.com/joma_gc/status/1822669077921276095?t=b6RKNmcci8OU30WD1AolZg&s=19
8/11/24, 4:19 PM

Skeptical Voter म्हणाले...

Better translation from all the Biden bafflegab. "I was clouted by a coup". Fancier language--they defenestrated me!

Drago म्हणाले...

" ... kids who ... deployed with me, and who are now in Iraq and are being told they have to stay an extra six month."--Stolen Valor Walz

narciso म्हणाले...

Hes not in charge he never was

Mr Wibble म्हणाले...

"He was told by a group of conspirators that if he did not withdraw from the race, then they would remove him from office via the 25th Amendment"

The 25th doesn't remove a president from office, it merely makes the VP the acting president, and that only lasts as long as there is massive Congressional support, which there wouldn't be in this case.

rehajm म्हणाले...

Fair to remember there were blog host here declaring Joe to be not that bad…

Megaera3 म्हणाले...

Whatever you choose to call the people opposing Biden these last four years based on his increasingly obvious incompetency, while happily legitimizing the weasels (Oooh, they're DEMOCRATS, not The Left, or The Cabal, or the lying weasels etc.) the point is they forced a drooling zero out of the race because he was a drooling zero and they couldn't hide it any longer. And then, LEFT HIM IN THE PRESIDENCY for the remainder of his term. Not, of course that he's running anything (mumble mumble 25th amendment, not capable etc.) but the corruptocrats who have been using him as a beard all this time are still being permitted to destroy the country while still getting to use him as their human shield. This isn't a scandal. It is nightmare country, and you seem to endorse it as a nice compromise.

Gunner म्हणाले...

Question: Is there anything Donald Trump or MAGA world in general could have done after the debate to keep Nancy and her cronies from extorting Biden?

Dixie म्हणाले...

Nancy Pelosi has now cast doubt on whether Joe Biden even signed his withdrawl letter.

Pelosi: "Some said that some people were unhappy with the letter. I’ll put it in somebody else’s mouth. It didn’t sound like Joe Biden to me. It really didn’t.”

She's suggesting that Biden was withdrawn by others. Many other people have rightly noted that the signature on the letter is not Joe Biden's normal signature.

So, the conspiracy is starting to unravel. Who withdrew Joe Biden from the Presidential race and installed someone who hasn't won a single delegate in the primary elections - disenfranchising 14 million Democrats who selected Joe Biden to be their nominee for President?

The Middle Coast म्हणाले...

I don’t know what precisely he was getting at, either. I need more info before this makes sense.

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

Thank you, Mr. President!

imTay म्हणाले...

A cravenly corrupt moron was the perfect figurehead for them.

loudogblog म्हणाले...

And the Democrats are still telling us that Biden is still capable of being the President....

Mason G म्हणाले...

"disenfranchising 14 million Democrats who selected Joe Biden to be their nominee for President?"

Lots of people on the right have pointed this out but you don't hear many complaints from the left. It appears they're okay with being told who to vote for.

Christopher B म्हणाले...

Two thoughts

I did a little hunting awhile ago and have seen at least one reasonably informed comment to that there is no reason to assume Biden is staying in office in order to pardon Hunter. Nothing says a pardon has to be made public in order to be effective. I think the DOJ has a pardon recommendation process in order to minimize corruption in issuing them but I see no reason Joe Biden and his staff couldn't go around that. It has apparently been either pencil-whipped or bypassed in the past (*cough*Marc Rich*cough*). I'd rate it more likely than not that Hunter already has his pardon.

If you read Section 4 of the 25th, nobody in the Legislative branch of government has any role in *initiating* the process. It is all on the VP and the Cabinet (absent the designation of another group) to start the ball rolling, and the House and Senate only get involved if Biden were to chose to contest the determination. Maybe Pelosi and Schumer were on the phone to tell Biden that they would uphold the invocation of Section 4 but that really has nothing to do with starting the process. This narrative seems designed to obscure exactly who was organizing the Cabinet secretaries to determine that they would officially support Biden's defenestration, and what if any role Harris had in the process.

Kevin म्हणाले...

Trump's silver bullet was Biden’s age.

Pelosi's silver bullet was an actual bullet.

The Godfather म्हणाले...

For at least the last year, the 2024 election was shaping up to be a "Who do you hate MORE?" election -- Nasty Trump or Incompetent Biden? Nasty was a little ahead in most polls. So our oldest political party (that's the Democrats) decided to run Not-Trump against Trump. Nobody knows anything about Kamala unless you follow internet memes, but they know -- or WILL know -- she's NOT Trump.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

Occam's Razor suggests Pelosi was the only name he could remember.

doctrev म्हणाले...

It's reasonable- no doubt the oligarchs told Pelosi to salute Harris and she didn't care enough to force the issue. But... it's not going to be hard for Pelosi Trump, or any interested party to fuel Biden's sense of resentment and force a delegate fight at the convention. Actually, it would be the best thing for the Democrats to have Biden drop Harris as VP, and then have him "pass away."

But even if they did, who the hell would take over? Tim Walz? Pete Buttgieg? Others who are too insignificant for speaking roles?

narciso म्हणाले...

Thats likely, schumer and jeffries were too hard to remsmbee

Mark म्हणाले...

Mason, I bet a lot of people also would be plenty ok if the Republicans replaced Trump.

It's not like Biden won a competitive primary this year, replacing the candidate forced on the voters by a party with another chosen by the party is the same lack of choice.

Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

Now it’s Trump’s job to litigate Biden’s grievance all the way to the election.

Jim म्हणाले...

Authentic frontier gibberish.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

Biden giving more interviews than Harris. That's my take on it. I would say Democrats are more afraid to let Harris speak to the press than Biden to speak to the press.

Mason G म्हणाले...

"Mason, I bet a lot of people also would be plenty ok if the Republicans replaced Trump."

I guess that depends on your definition of "a lot". According to wikipedia, Trump received 76.42% of primary votes. Nikki Haley got 19.68%, Ron DeSantis got 1.59% and seven other candidates each got less than "uncommitted" at 0.70%. Anyway, unlike the Democrats, Republican voters had a say in who would be their candidate.

"It's not like Biden won a competitive primary this year, replacing the candidate forced on the voters by a party with another chosen by the party is the same lack of choice."

Yes, that's true. And like I said before, you don't hear many complaints from the left about how this seems to work. You could ask the Bernie Bros, they know how it goes.

Jim at म्हणाले...

Mason, I bet a lot of people also would be plenty ok if the Republicans replaced Trump.

OK. I've got an idea.

Let's say we hold a bunch of state elections - we could call them ... primaries. That's right. Primaries. And put your thesis to a test.

Then we would really know for sure if a lot of people would be plenty ok if the Republicans replaced Trump.

effinayright म्हणाले...

Dixcus, you keep peddling this same load of horseshit again and again. Biden has no right to his party's candidacy. Yes, it was dirty politics to push him aside, but no law was violated by doing so. As you have been told again and again, an official "threatening" to use his/her Constitutional power to depose Biden isn't a crime, any more than if Mitch McConnelll were to threaten Biden with impeachment. Give it a rest!

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

Isn't Pelosi older than both of them? And less coherent?

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...

My understanding is that there were a number of people, including Pelosi, who were worried about losing their re-election bids if Biden were on the ticket. I gathered that the fear was that Democratic voters would have chosen to sit out the election and to not vote at all. So Joe said he dropped out to prevent Trump from winning, and to save democracy.

What I found fascinating in this interview was the inconsistency of Biden's dramatic pledge to his dying son Beau (who died May 30, 2015) to "stay engaged," iow to run for the presidency, followed by Biden's equally dramatic claim that his turning point in deciding to run for president was the Charlottesville protest and Trump's comment about "nice people on both sides" which took place in August 2017.

IOW, everything Biden does is apparently because of Donald Trump. Biden is a stone cold liar or he's paranoid and a borderline schizo. I prefer to think he's a stone cold liar.

Biden admits he had only planned one term and to be a transitional president. But time went by so fast he felt he had to try for a second term, again, to save democracy from Trump.

I understand giving Biden respect as a senior and the current president but his claiming that Trump is a danger to the nation went over the line and the fact there was no push back is media collusion with state sponsored propaganda. Very disturbing abuse.

Mason G म्हणाले...

"Biden is a stone cold liar or he's paranoid and a borderline schizo. I prefer to think he's a stone cold liar."

He could be both, you know.

Mutaman म्हणाले...

Yancey Ward
"Occam's Razor suggests Pelosi was the only name he could remember.'


You mean like Willie Brown being the only name Trump could remember.

Achilles म्हणाले...

But most Republicans would not be OK Mark.

We are not fascist apparatchik throne sniffers like you. We actually believe in representation.

Achilles म्हणाले...

The cope is real. Deomcrats don't give two craps about actual representative democracy.

You are just fascists that wont admit it.

Achilles म्हणाले...

It has been 17 days since Kamala Harris deposed Joe Biden and took over the democrat party.

Too bad she hasn't had a single press conference or answered any questions about seizing power.

But she has lots of stupid people like Mutaman that will do whatever they are told.

JIM म्हणाले...

It was Trump's fault. He was supposed to lose the debate. He wasn't supposed to survive the backup plan. Everything went hyperspeed after that. The Democrats didn't care they would be branded as hypocrites for the undemocratic appointment of Harris. Biden's sure nomination voted on by 14 million voters, stolen from him in plain sight. I learned in 2020 that's called "fortification".

Mason G म्हणाले...

"And I was concerned if I stayed in the race, that would be the topic — you’d be interviewing me about why did Nancy Pelosi say [something] … and I thought it’d be a real distraction..."

Brandon thought that the MSM would do something that would hurt the Democrats' chances in the election?

I'll take "Things That Never Happened" for $1000, Alex.

Dixie म्हणाले...

The United States Secret Service are on tape ... breaking and entering into a private business at a Kamala Harris rally. Ostensibly to "procure" their bathroom for the assembled guests of Ms. Harris. They are admitting they picked the business's locks. Of course, since they were filmed and got caught they're apologizing. But this cannot be the first time they've done this.

This is our country now. This is who we are now. The US Secret Service are burglars. Just weeks after letting a man shoot 8 times at a candidate for President.

Our country is lost.

Kakistocracy म्हणाले...

Trump is now making completely bizarre charges that Harris and Walz have 'fake crowds' generated by "artificial intelligence".

Trump isn’t going to run an actual campaign against Harris, he’s going to just whine about crowd sizes, argue he’s being cheated, and say the election was stolen from him.

This is why Democrats wanted Trump to be the nominee.

Drago म्हणाले...

LOL

New Soviet Democraticals spent 4 years fighting on all fronts to make sure Trump would not, could not, be the nominee, including attempted murder. They failed.

Mason G म्हणाले...

"New Soviet Democraticals spent 4 years fighting on all fronts to make sure Trump would not, could not, be the nominee, including attempted murder. They failed."

That was as long as four years ago, all the way up until yesterday. Or, for leftists, "things that never happened". Today is a new day, everything starts all over again.

Inga म्हणाले...

Does Trump think his followers will actually believe the massive crowds aren’t real? AI generated? Wow. Well, I guess some will and then they don’t want to be thought of as weird. These Harris/Walz crowd sizes must really be getting to him.

Inga म्हणाले...

Do you think BLM would rather have Trump? Oh please.

Drago म्हणाले...

Rumor has it there are still huge %'s of democraticals that believe Trump/Russia collusion occurred. Inga, any thoughts on that matter?

Inga म्हणाले...

People get deployed to countries other than war zones. If you truly were in the military yourself you would know this. The kids he was speaking of who deployed with him in Italy, may have had another deployment to Iraq. I think you never served a day in your life in any US military.

Inga म्हणाले...

Poor Drago, his Trump world is caving in. He’s not dealing with it very well.

Inga म्हणाले...

And Trump remembered that other Black politician saying “terrible” things about Harris, lol.

Howard म्हणाले...

Lol, Trump's minions stuck on litigating 2016 talking points. No human cares about Russian collision and the Steele Magnolia report anymore.

Iman म्हणाले...

Inga sez…
“Do you think BLM would rather have Trump? Oh please.”

No, have no fear, Igna… BLM and antifa are loyal, brownshirted shock troops of the Democrat Party. They depend on you inbreds to keep them in beer money and Slim Jim’s.

Howard म्हणाले...

He's going back to 2016 to boost his morale. He's like a punch drunk boxer at a bar claiming he could have been a contender

Michael K म्हणाले...

Inga is outraged as only a non vet can be.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Inga has not noticed the huge black curtains at Harris "giant" rallies that hide the empty seats.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Inga Knows more about her buddies in BLM than we do.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Inga and"Rich" and Howard constitute our own memory care group.

Maynard म्हणाले...

Isn't it obvious that that the DNC media complex is making a full court press to rehabilitate Kamala-lala-ding-dong into a viable candidate? Otherwise it would be all over now in August.

Our usual trolls are simply following orders to build up Kamala-lala-ding-dong and tear down Trump in order to make the race seem competitive. When Kamala-lala-ding-dong gets 90 million votes they can say it was because of her incredible, joyous personality.

Curious George म्हणाले...

"Inga
People get deployed to countries other than war zones. If you truly were in the military yourself you would know this. The kids he was speaking of who deployed with him in Italy, may have had another deployment to Iraq. I think you never served a day in your life in any US military."

Whatever you say, Eisenhower.

mikee म्हणाले...

I commented here in 2016 that Biden had dementia. Puppets don't need to have autonomy, in fact, they aren't really puppets if they can think for themselves. Biden was run as a puppet, and Harris is following his lead.