Writes Adam Liptak, in "Trump’s Vows to Prosecute Rivals Put Rule of Law on the Ballot/Donald Trump’s promise to seek retribution challenges long-established norms. The election could hinge in part on what kind of justice system the country believes it has now and wants in the future" (NYT).
I think Trump's campaign rhetoric is mostly designed to force his adversaries to proclaim principles that support his own arguments. Liptak acknowledges that as he contends that what Trump is threatening to do to his political opponents is different from what they are doing to him. Trump's political enemies will appreciate the asserted difference. His supporters won't. And what is it? The most obvious difference is that Trump's opponents are currently deeply engaged in prosecuting him, but Trump did not prosecute his enemies in his first administration and he's only referring to the potential to do so the next time around. He's issuing a credible threat in a game of tit-for-tat that he did not start. Won't we need to see what charges his next administration brings (if there is to be a next administration)? These might be solid charges that rest on the proposition that no one is above the law... as Trump's opponents like to say about the charges brought against him.
Liptak quotes something Justice Alito said in the oral arguments in the case about presidential immunity:
"If an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy? And we can look around the world and find countries where we have seen this process, where the loser gets thrown in jail.”
And Liptak follows that with this from lawprof Robert Gordon:
"A party may come into power determined to address injustices committed by the prior regime, as Argentina criminally charged leading generals after the dirty war, or Brazil is doing now against its former president. But the claims of injustices have to be true and their investigation and prosecution scrupulously fair. It’s pretty obvious... that turning law enforcement against your political opponents just to get revenge on them is among the worst crimes a regime can commit."
Just to get revenge.... Trump isn't threatening to do this just to get revenge... or even to get revenge at all. He is saying that there is profound corruption and that a "terrible precedent" has been set. He wouldn't be starting the "cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy." I don't know that he plans to continue it or accelerate it, but I do think he believes that he needs to confront his opponents with what they have done.
Here's how Trump put it in the interview with Sean Hannity that aired last night. He was asked whether he would keep the cycle going and prosecute his political adversaries. He said:
Here's how Trump put it in the interview with Sean Hannity that aired last night. He was asked whether he would keep the cycle going and prosecute his political adversaries. He said:
"Look, what's happened to me has never happened before.... It has to stop, because otherwise, we're not going to have a country. Look, when this election is over, based on what they've done, I would have every right to go after them, and it's easy, because it's Joe Biden and you see all the criminality, all of the money that's going into the family and him, all of this money from China, from Russia, from Ukraine...."
७७ टिप्पण्या:
Trump is the only person in history that was convicted for having an accountant write down that he paid a lawyer to secure an NDA from a porn star as a legal expense.
He is the only person ever to be convicted of this "crime."
Ever.
Many people are in jail for what Hunter, Joe and the rest of the criminals in DC have admitted to doing.
Yes, Trump is the one undermining respect for the rule of law. They really believe this, or at least many do.
Trump's opponents have been trying to punish him ever since he threw his hat in the ring as a contender for the 2016 nominee. Here are the receipts.
After reading the receipts, here's how it all ended as reported by CNN:
Special counsel John Durham concluded that the FBI should never have launched a full investigation into connections between Donald Trump’s campaign and Russia during the 2016 election, according to a report compiled over three years by the Trump-administration appointee and released on Monday.
Durham’s 300-plus page report also states that the FBI used “raw, unanalyzed, and uncorroborated intelligence,” to launch the “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation into Trump and Russia but used a different standard when weighing concerns about alleged election interference regarding Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
The latest NY trial is just the final wake up call for those that weren't paying attention 8 years ago. I think many wanted to believe the system would be self-cleaning and resolve this mess, but now they realize what most us feared long ago. It won't clean itself.
"challenges long-established norms."
Christ on a crutch. The "norms" are A) no longer "long" and B) no longer "established". The "norms" have been busted.
They broke it
They bought it
Ticket purchased
Ride incoming
Regarding the politicization of the Justice System. That horse was let out of the barn when Crossfire Hurricane was launched.
It was said best in “A Man for All Seasons”:
“William Roper: “So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!”
Sir Thomas More: “Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?”
William Roper: “Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!”
Sir Thomas More: “Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!”
― Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons: A Play in Two Acts
"as he contends that what Trump is threatening to do to his political opponents is different from what they are doing to him."
Well- yeah. What Trump would be doing is prosecuting people for actual crimes.
Even the commenters at the democrat NYTimes recognize this for the shite it is. And the hypocricay of the democrat NYTimes for publishing it.
"But they also have the effect, partly incidental and partly calculated, of undermining faith in the integrity of the criminal justice system, a development that could have profound effects in a nation where the rule of law [had once] been foundational."
To accept this article at face value is to say, for instance, that no election could be stolen if all of the surface forms are properly pantomimed, even while the processes that ensured their legitimacy had been gutted. This is cargo cult law. For those not familiar, a cargo cult was a thing sometimes formed by Pacific Islanders in WWII, when they observed US solders signaling airplanes, and then saw supplies fall from the sky on parachutes, and assumed that they were witnessing a successful supplication to the gods, so they made fake uniforms and flags, Gilligan's Island style, and aped the actions of the soldiers.
Sorry, we are not buying it. Even Biden recently told black audiences that the criminal justice system had been rigged against them. What changed that this is no longer possible? Why doesn't he tell black audiences that the courts are now perfectly fair in all cases, and it's treason to suggest otherwise!
"But the claims of injustices have to be true and their investigation and prosecution scrupulously fair."
Now I got coffee all over my screen.
It must also be pointed out that the Espionage case in Florida was suspended because the Prosecution was caught tampering with evidence and lying about it to the Judge and the court.
And the Georgia RICO case was just permanently suspended and both the Prosecutor and the "Judge" that donated to the prosecutor's campaign are facing sanction.
Even though Trump is gagged other people are talking about Colangelo taking a demotion from the being the number 3 at the DOJ under Biden to head up the New York Prosecution of Trump now.
Sadly I don't think this is going to make it to July.
They need to throw Trump in jail.
Trump is still talking like we can work with these fascists and make a deal. He needs to be cured of that.
Somebody pointed out, maybe Jack Posobic, that the expression that Trump made on his mug shot was his best homage to MLK in the Birmingham jail.
I think the Democrats have already sullied our system of justice more than enough, thank you very much.
Just how out of touch must liptak be to put that garbage out!?
...undermining faith in the integrity of the criminal justice system, a development that could have profound effects in a nation where the rule of law has been foundational.
Sadly these words are now nothing more than empty platitudes.
We are no longer a nation of laws. We are a nation where at least 50% of the population are disingenuous morons who are easily brainwashed by mantra repetition. And these Americans consider themselves our "intellectual" class.
I don't see a way out of this, even if Trump wins, it's a brief gasp of air. If half of America can be manipulated by this bullshit, we're doomed. America's ship, steered by the liberal education establishment, hit the stupidity iceberg long ago.
We will sink. It's a mathematical certainty.
Trump’s “enemies” who are threatened with prosecution include those in the FBI and CIA who broke the law to illegally spy on his campaign, illegally spy on U.S. citizens in social media, and illegally censor social media by placing “ex-“ FBI agent’s in Twitter’s censorship department, as well probably as in all the other social media apps.
BLM was an FBI/DNC generated psy-op to assist in bring down Trump. The people who did this deserve to be prosecuted. The pandemic virus was funded and developed by Fauci, and probably deliberately released, not solely to bring down Trump, but certainly used for that purpose. The J6 insurrection bullshit is obviously an FBI/DNC generated hoax. The bastards imprisoning thousands of people for years for protesting deserve to be punished. Prosecution, or at least clearing the perps out of office, seems justified. The shutdowns were manufactured psy-ops to allow mail-in voting. Those responsible need to be prosecuted.
The lawfare fraud is only part of the story
Trump: My payment of money for Daniels to keep quiet had nothing to do with manipulating the election!
Trump: The Daniels trial and other charges against me are all about manipulating the election!
...undermining faith in the integrity of the criminal justice system
I keep thinking about Crack Emcee's comment the other day that now 50% of American's white population now sees the criminal justice system from a black point of view.
Talk about a truth bomb...
Quite rich coming from the NYT/Dems. They broke the rule of law and now they complain when the tables might get turned on them.
Gusty Winds said...
Sadly these words are now nothing more than empty platitudes.
We are no longer a nation of laws. We are a nation where at least 50% of the population are disingenuous morons who are easily brainwashed by mantra repetition. And these Americans consider themselves our "intellectual" class.
I don't see a way out of this, even if Trump wins, it's a brief gasp of air. If half of America can be manipulated by this bullshit, we're doomed. America's ship, steered by the liberal education establishment, hit the stupidity iceberg long ago.
We will sink. It's a mathematical certainty.
Naw. Everything about the United States is a historical aberration. It never should have happened.
But it did and it continues.
With any luck the leftists will keep pushing this and force the necessary cleansing.
A lot of democrat voters are realizing they do not want to live in the globalist utopia being created. Even on college campuses the men who stand up to the campers and foreign invaders are the heroes.
You are watching the mainstream news too much.
We are winning this.
Mark said,
"Trump: My payment of money for Daniels to keep quiet had nothing to do with manipulating the election!
Trump: The Daniels trial and other charges against me are all about manipulating the election!"
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Well...yeah. Kind of shot yourself in the foot there didn't you.
Do you have a link for that first quote, Mark?
Shouting Thomas said...
The shutdowns were manufactured psy-ops to allow mail-in voting.
Half of America is easily manipulated by obvious psy-ops. They then go from being the programmed to the promoters. You can't fix that.
We're fucked. Drink more beer. Start smoking again.
Mark said...
Trump: My payment of money for Daniels to keep quiet had nothing to do with manipulating the election!
Trump: The Daniels trial and other charges against me are all about manipulating the election!
Mark thinks manipulating the election is a crime now.
He cannot be honest about this in any way shape or form.
Trump is the only person convicted for having his accountant write down that he paid a lawyer to secure an NDA from a porn star as a legal expense.
Mark revels in his fascism. He bathes in it for everyone to witness.
Pray that these people are dumb enough to throw Trump in jail for this made up crime.
"Trump is the only person convicted for having his accountant write down that he paid a lawyer to secure an NDA from a porn star as a legal expense."
The Gary Hart precedent was even shadier, and it was conspicuously not prosecuted by the Feds. In his case he use *donor money* to shut up the bimbo, and didn't report it as a campaign contribution. But it's different with Trump because he's a not a Democrat.
I think we need to differentiate between “above the law” and above prosecution.
Hilary was without a doubt guilt of breaking the law concerning how she managed her information, but it was decided that she was above prosecution. On any given day there are many times more laws broken than prosecuted.
Trumps prosecution was not because of the seriousness of the offense, but rather because of the seriousness of the threat he poses to the political status quo. That’s what makes it a politically motivated prosecution.
What you will witness in the future is that conservative offenses are routinely deemed worthy of prosecution, and offenses by those on the left will be regarded as trivial, and not worth the effort of prosecution.
It's an indictment of our ruling class that Donald Trump seems to be the most honest among them. They should ponder that.
Biden just crapped his pants in Normandy during the D-Day commemoration.
Like actually just crapped his pants in public and he had to be rushed away while Macron was left to talk to the veterans alone.
"President Biden, while attending the ceremony, was seen visibly struggling as if to sit in a chair that wasn't there. This incident happened while French President Macron was meeting with veterans, drawing attention away from the solemn occasion."
Achilles....
You and I are much aligned. I don't watch the mainstream news, I'm just well aware of it's influence on America's sheep population, especially the ewes.
You're right. America does continue...but in what form??
We are in the midst of an Animal Farm transformation. Even if we are "winning", I just don't believe 52%-48% saves us. That 48% is off the deep end.
Lefty Mark ignores the extortion committed by "Stormy Daniels" and her lawyer. He is in prison for another attempted extortion.
Lefty Mark is over his head on this topic.
"I think Trump's campaign rhetoric is mostly designed to force his adversaries to proclaim principles that support his own arguments."
Based upon? Seriously. Based upon what? Wishful thinking? I think we should take him at his word. The prosecutions were an escalation and if you think there won't be further escalation (to the further detriment to the Constitution) you are precious little angel. Carry on. I hope your net garners all the butterflies you seek.
A vote for Trump or Biden is a vote against the Constitution. I'd rather throw my vote away than vote against the Constitution.
"We will sink. It's a mathematical certainty."
From this moment forward, no matter what we do, the U.S. will founder.
A smarter play would have been for the GOP to indict Hunter and Nancy Pelosi in every conservative state. Put them through the ringer and have Trump promise to *restore* the Constitution and put an end to political prosecutions.
I'm going to throat fuck the Constitution even harder than the Dems is not a winning argument.
Blogger Gusty Winds said...
Achilles....
You and I are much aligned. I don't watch the mainstream news, I'm just well aware of it's influence on America's sheep population, especially the ewes.
You're right. America does continue...but in what form??
Good question seeing as how we are headed for bankruptcy as a nation. Why the Left wants to do this is a bit of a mystery but interest on the debt is now higher than the defense budget. The normal members of the armed forces are not welcome in the new "Diversity Corps" and they are staying away in droves.
The Navy is incapable of fighting a Pacific war and we no longer have the industrial capacity that saved us in 1942.
Idiots like Lefty Mark are along for the ride and still don't see where we are going.
Typical criminals. Angry at the justice system for catching them and giving them consequences.
because they want to destroy the shining city on a hill, or turn it into oceania,
to charge something for crimes against the body politic is perfectly fine,
the fat leonard gang, totally lesuo is getting off for their being bought by China,
I can’t see Trump going after Biden. He’s frail and demented.
I can see Merrick Garland going to prison.
Pool Boys always take the fall.
NYT, Democrazis et al trapped in Trump world.
The cheese must stay in Wisconsin, gusty winds.
Don Surber's substack had this quote from Dr. Phil: "We need our Justice Department to return to the business of meting out justice and not running the political agendas of those currently in power, blindly seeking convictions, warranted or otherwise, and attacking political opponents." He's right but leaves in a false implication that the DOJ is "running the political agendas of those in currently in power" The DOJ has been running the political agenda of the Dems whether the Dems are in power or not. Witness the FBI/CIA subversion of the Trump administration. The left is simply afraid that a prospective second Trump administration will use their own tactics against them. He didn't the first time, we'll have to see if he does should he be given a second term. And we'll also see whether the DOJ/FBI/CIA will allow it should he try.
"From this moment forward, no matter what we do, the U.S. will founder."
Wait'll China moves on Taiwan, you're going to see something truly epic in its incompetence. America will win a hot war with Russia. It will not win a hot war with China. Everyone at the War College already knows this, so of course the right thing to do is deplete our stockpiles by sending more to Ukraine...
"Well...yeah. Kind of shot yourself in the foot there didn't you."
He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, is he?
mccullough said...
I can’t see Trump going after Biden. He’s frail and demented.
I can see Merrick Garland going to prison.
Assuming Trump gets elected, and there isn't a wave of mass pardons by Biden what you suggested is probably has the best chance to unwind the stepped up criminalization of politics we are seeing. I would want to s newly sworn in Trump to give a press conference where he lists the crimes and things that look like crimes of Biden and his family. State that what he has done deserves prosecution and punishment under the justice system. But state there is a higher principle at stake and that is avoiding the criminal justice system being used for political gain by going after political opponents. Therefore he is issuing a fully and plenary pardon for Joe Biden and his family for any and all Federal crimes they may have committed. Then follow that up with but to ensure that there aren't other actors in the bureaucracy we will be cleaning house at the Department of Justice including the FBI to ensure that our civil servants have an unwavering principle of equal justice for all regardless of their political affiliation, religion, race, or gender. Further, we know that powers of government outside of the Justice system can be used to target political opponents and benefit political allies, so I am instructing all my Secretaries to clean house at all of the various federal agencies. While he shouldn't say it the press conference, despite Biden and his family getting pardons there needs to be prosecutions of a couple dozen former Biden administration officials, so that the conniving DC-class get scared and are motivated to join the private sector.
Do the rest of you note the change in tone from our resident anti-Trumpers- last week it was triumphant, this week not so much any longer but rather a kind of insolent anger that the conviction in the kangaroo court didn't work.
With trump being an outsider business man, we are finding (confirming) that career politicians are very good at hiding their corruption. When it does come to light, we have crooked politicians prosecuting crooked politicians - a farce. Trump is an outsider.
Having said that, prosecuting your political opponents, throwing them in jail, is not a good foundation for a functioning republic. To coin a phrase 'at this point, what difference does it make' when trying to jail ex-office holders for crimes which, although serious, are sometimes just a technicality. Democrats want to go there, though.
Of course, according to the leftist, all Democrats are innocent and all Republicans are guilty. The Trump pro(per)secution demonstrates that!
"so I am instructing all my Secretaries to clean house at all of the various federal agencies."
Clean house or close down. The Constitution does not include provisions for an administrative branch of the government. That part needs to be eliminated.
I'd like there to be an avoidance of going after political opponents by equalizing investigations into all political corruptions by all politicians, no partisan divide.
I'd honestly be fine with what Trump has gone through had that been equally applied to every politician. I wish all politicians had to deal with such aggressive use of the law. We'd be a much, much less corrupt society, and public corruption is one of the, if not the, leading reason for social and economic inequality.
Back the Blue*
* offer not valid if Trump says so
Several Pa. House Republicans boo officers who defended Capitol on Jan. 6
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/06/pennsylvania-house-republicans-capitol-walkout/
Michael K said...
Lefty Mark ignores the extortion committed by "Stormy Daniels" and her lawyer. He is in prison for another attempted extortion.
"Lefty Mark is over his head on this topic."
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Lefty Mark is always in over his head. Intellectually, he's in the kiddie pool.
From this moment forward, no matter what we do, the U.S. will founder.
And get to a boat quickly. Don't wait. You remember what I told you about the boats?
Good question seeing as how we are headed for bankruptcy as a nation.
If this is a concern to you, why would you support Trump? Do you remember him getting in a pissing match with Mitch McConnell because Trump wanted to give out $2000 instead of $600? This was in December of 2020 long after everyone knew what a scam COVID was. Here is your reminder.
https://www.businessinsider.com/analysis-trump-powerless-as-mcconnell-blocks-2000-stimulus-checks-2020-12?op=1
I think everyone is just full of shit. You like the scent of Trump's cock, not his actual policies. His actual policies are big government bullshit like free COVID welfare checks nobody needed or using the Centers for Disease Control to tell property owners they cannot evict deadbeats. Stealing private property to give it to Taiwanese hustlers ("Fox" and "con" are the in the damned named Donnie!). Trump governs like a Democrat. The Democrats hate him and the Republicans love him. Both sides are stupid and full of shit.
Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, was just ordered to report to prison July 1st to serve a four month sentence. That will take him out of the picture for the four months prior to the election.
I want retribution.
The left has declared war on their political opponents and now demand those opponents play by a different set of rules than they do. Or rather, the left plays by no rules but then makes some arbitrary rules which they insist the GOP follow.
Garland's DOJ just charged a 75 yr old retired NASCAR driver with "obstruction of an official proceeding" on January 6th.
I want revenge!
Trumps prosecution was not because of the seriousness of the offense, but rather because of the seriousness of the threat he poses to the political status quo.
Trump realized from the get go that the status quo was no longer workable. The status quo went batshit crazy. And here we are.
Chuck provides a prime example of this.
"But they also have the effect, partly incidental and partly calculated, of undermining faith in the integrity of the criminal justice system, a development that could have profound effects in a nation where the rule of law has been foundational. "
What do you want to bet that if Trump's convictions are overturned on appeal that the Democrats throw all this out the window and start screaming about how flawed our criminal justice system is? After all, haven't they been trying to delegitimize the Supreme Court for several years now because they don't like some of their rulings?
D.D. Driver telling everyone to play a fiddle while Rome burns to the fucking ground. Republicans like D.D. Driver are about as useful as a tit on a boar.
"And get to a boat quickly. Don't wait. You remember what I told you about the boats?"
Ha!
Steve Bannon has been ordered to report to prison on July 1st for the contempt charges stemming from not cooperating with the J6 committee.
"If this is a concern to you, why would you support Trump?"
Cuz Biden is worse?
Just spit-ballin' here…
Trump has been quite clear: "Success will be my revenge"!!!!
Yancy grabbing a can of gasoline while the the Constitution burns.
You may actually want to study the history of Rome and the fall of the Republic.
The difference between you and me is your wouldn't care if the Constitution was gutted AS LONG as Dear Leader Trump is there to protect you. You are pathetic.
"We must destroy the Constitution in order to save it!"
Have we tapped into our strategic national reserves of stupidity?
D.D. Driver would rather suck Biden cock than Trump cock- got it.
If Biden wins in November, then the Democrats will retake the House for certain and will likely hold onto the Senate with the VP vote, but Manchin and Sinema will be gone and with it the filibuster. With that goes SCOTUS with 5 newly appointed justices in the mold of Ms.s Brown and Kagan. I am sure even the morons like D.D. Driver and others can figure out the rest as they pat each other on the back for their principles.
D.D. Driver is like the guy who looks over your shoulder while you tie off the tourniquet of a bleeding man and tells you that it would be much better to repair the femoral artery.
Adam Liptak looks exactly like the kinda guy that still
frequents Grand Central Station glory holes. If he gets the world he’s bleating for he’s prey. Which would be the only upside I suppose.
Ayup Yancey.
cfs wrote: “Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, was just ordered to report to prison July 1st to serve a four month sentence.”
4 months? That's less than the time between his showers. Is Trump trying to set a record for most felony indictments and convictions associated with a politician?
D.D. Driver,
If you can't see the difference in the choices in November, then just take gun and put a bullet in your head- you will be happier that way and the world won't notice your absence since you are useless to it.
“What we’re doing is different.” Said every dictator in modern history as he and his confederates prosecute and jail their political opponents on spurious, often sui generis grounds, where procedural fairness is thrown put the window.
Unfortunately, there are always people who are fooled by these sorts of dishonest protestations. A certain degree of cynicism is required in a healthy electorate to prevent these sorts of slides into autocracy.
“Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, was just ordered to report to prison July 1st to serve a four month sentence.”
I am just curious when Eric Holder is going to report to prison... Oh, that's right. He's a Democract.
donald said...
" Adam Liptak looks exactly like the kinda guy that still
frequents Grand Central Station glory holes. "
First, there’s no such place as Grand Central Station. It’s called Grand Central Terminal .
Second, glory holes at Grand Central? I can’t even find a men’s room there.
Drago commented on ""[Hunter Biden] was gonna plead guilty to misdemeanor tax charges, do deferred prosecution on the gun charges. And the judge asked a very simple question...""
26 mins ago
Readering: "Seems like AA tends to put the most cynical spin on Biden's words and the most generous spin on Trump's."
Its probably done partially to counteract the absolute lies, hoaxes and fake quotes the entirety of the left/libs/dems/LLR-democraticals launch against Trump almost every single day.
Readering is no exception in that regard.
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"Its probably done partially to counteract the absolute lies, hoaxes and fake quotes the entirety of the left/libs/dems/LLR-democraticals launch against Trump almost every single day."
To be fair, they'd probably prefer to use truthful reports against Trump. It appears they can't find any, so they make them up.
Meade said...
" Readering is no exception in that regard."
Link please.
Ah, Mutaman wants a link to a comment about Readering. How cute.
Like I wrote earlier- the failure of the verdict to dent Trump at all is causing lots and lots of anger that lacks a real outlet.
I am just laughing my ass off continuously right now.
I wish all politicians had to deal with such aggressive use of the law. We'd be a much, much less corrupt society,
If the prosecutions against Trump were grounded in statutes under which prosecutors regularly - oh, heck, ever! - decided to prosecute others, I could agree with this statement.
Jesus, Mutaperson. Do your own research.
Lazy bastard.
Rusty said...
"Jesus, Mutaperson. Do your own research.
Lazy bastard."
Rusty: 2+2 =5
Mutaman: Prove it.
Rusty: Jesus, Mutaperson. Do your own research.
Lazy bastard
Logic as learned at Trump University.
At this point, Trump has to prosecute them all. Pour encourage les autres. The Democrats have to learn that there was a reason we do not go after the out of power party. Trump has to prosecute to drive the lesson home that the Democrats led us down the banana republic road. To come back, some Democrats are going to need some prison time. The NEXT Democratic President will understand the message.
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