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"The court heard how the defendant's 'Eunuchmaker' pay-per-view website advertised services including castration, penis removal and the freezing of limbs."

I'm reading "'Eunuch-maker' mutilator jailed for 22 years" (BBC).

I first read about this case in The Daily Record, and it was so ludicrously, shockingly lurid that I didn't think I could write about it. But then I saw the BBC was covering it, so it became bloggable.

But for the sake of decency, I will put the rest after the jump:

The website showed the defendant [Marius Gustavson, 46] and his medically unqualified accomplices - six of whom were sentenced alongside him - performing a series of operations in London flats and hotel rooms on apparently willing volunteers. Some were as young as 16....
In his defence, Gustavson's legal team claimed he only wanted to "put a smile on people's faces" by offering a service to those suffering, like him, from what was described as body integrity dysphoria (BID)....

Gustavson earned almost £300,000 from his website, having amassed 22,841 visitors from across the globe who paid to view the gruesome footage, the court heard....

Gustavson moved to the UK in 2012 and was living in London in 2017 when he had his penis removed by one of his co-defendants, Damien Byrnes. Two years later he arranged to have part of his leg frozen and a nipple removed. The procedures led to "feelings of empowerment and greater acceptance of himself and feelings of contentment with his own body", Mr Panesar said.

"From there the Eunuchmaker website began. He does say he wished to put a smile on other people's faces - he wanted to help. "He was stuck in a body he wanted to make changes to, and understood there were more people out there who wished to do the same."

By the time of his arrest his involvement had become an "addiction" and he could no longer stop himself being present at the procedures and making videos, the barrister said.

That's the BBC. Here's some of what's in the Daily Record, in "Scots hotel worker jailed for role in 'eunuch maker' scheme/Ion Ciucur, 30, of Gretna, admitted he was part of the criminal ring which carried out male castration, penis removal and other 'grisly" procedures on an unprecedented scale":

Extreme body modification is linked to a subculture where men become "nullos", short for genital nullification, by having their penis and testicles removed. Previously, prosecutor Caroline Carberry KC said Gustavson was linked to at least 29 procedures.

After one of them, Gustavson cooked severed testicles for lunch which he ate in a salad he had prepared for himself, she said. He had taken various pictures from "raw ingredients to an artfully arranged salad platter", Ms Carberry told the court....

During raids, officers found Gustavson's penis in a drawer in his home four years after it had been amputated. Gustavson, a Norwegian national, also had to have his leg amputated in February 2019 after getting a man to freeze it and claimed £18,000 in disability payments up until 2021.

So, not only is there cannibalism, but there's also a welfare fraud angle. 

Earlier in mitigation, Rashvinderjeet Panesar said the breakdown of Gustavson's marriage was the "trigger" for his offending. The defence barrister said: "He had a desire to be the architect of his own body. His modification led him to feelings of empowerment. It appears at face value to be something that's become an addiction for him."...

Kate Mulholland, from the Crown Prosecution Service, said: "Marius Gustavson ignored the risks of performing unnecessary surgery on vulnerable men for sexual gratification and financial gain. He actively recruited participants through his website and was paid to stream the footage of these barbaric procedures.

"Whilst the victims in this case all seemingly consented to surgeries and amputations, the victim who bravely reported his assault to the police expressed serious regret regarding his procedure and the lasting impact it has had upon him. This clearly emphasises why such practices are unlawful.  The severity of today's sentence should act as a warning to others that performing extreme body modifications is against the law and the CPS won't hesitate to prosecute these horrendous crimes."

Anyway, good morning, blog readers.  

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Biotrekker म्हणाले...

So someon who had mutilative surgery becasue of body dysphoria had regret and that is why we don't allow this to go on. That's funny, this situation sounds a lot like the pro-trans surgery for children movement. But THAT is stunning and brave, we are tols.

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

MASS INSANITY. Thanks to Univerities everywhere that crow how proud they are to have eliminated Christianity. Oops.

Old and slow म्हणाले...

It sounds like his motives were similar to the gender dysphoria butchers. Money, and helping people feel better about themselves.

Old and slow म्हणाले...

Actually, my previous comment was uncharitable. This guy is clearly a true believer.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Only highly trained medical professional at the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health are allowed to cut the balls of willing 16-year-old volunteers.

Lloyd W. Robertson म्हणाले...

Again this raises questions, such as J.K Rowling's, as to whether it is wise to allow trans mutilation of children based only on their own consent, and a feeling of being trapped in the wrong body.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

American men have been emasculated and castrated by the feminist dominated education system for the last 40 years. There are thousands of Eunichmakers in our public schools and universities.

hawkeyedjb म्हणाले...

The difference between this and the transgender industry is like Jim Beam vs. backwoods distilleries. Same product, just different scale, and one is approved by the government.

Roger Sweeny म्हणाले...

"The severity of today's sentence should act as a warning to others that performing extreme body modifications is against the law and the CPS won't hesitate to prosecute these horrendous crimes."

The trans stuff writes itself.

Humperdink म्हणाले...

"Whilst the victims in this case all seemingly consented to surgeries and amputations, the victim who bravely reported his assault to the police expressed serious regret regarding his procedure and the lasting impact it has had upon him."

Being practiced daily in the US, although under more sanitary conditions. The schools are planting the seeds. But for Wales.

Temujin म्हणाले...

I'm starting to think that Western nations, on the whole, have way too much wealth, way too much free time to gaze at ourselves, our navels, and other people's 'navels', and more indoctrination than education.

I'm just thinking about, let's say a poor family in Sri Lanka. Are there sons among them dreaming of removing their penis? Or are they more likely thinking only as far as their next meal and how to come by it? We, on the other hand, have a segment of the population that is so bored with themselves that they are unsure of their gender at times, and are regularly considering removing body parts to prove it. And, even better, we have 'professionals' encouraging it.

I suspect nature evens things out regularly. We're due for an evening out.

gilbar म्हणाले...

i don't understand? what is the defendant doing that is supposed to be "wrong"?
i guess it's that they aren't members of the medical union?
don't people have THE RIGHT to mutilate their bodies?

which would YOU rather have? a live eunuch, or a dead person?

Achilles म्हणाले...

This isn't as gruesome as the Gosnell case or what RFK supports.

Sally327 म्हणाले...

I'll first the state the obvious, which is that this practice doesn't seem to be too many exits away from the hospitals where doctors perform smiliar surgeries on teenagers under the auspices of remedying gender dysphoria.

Mostly, I wonder if this is something that has happened through the ages and we just know more about it now because of the internet. Or is there something about modern society that is creating these impulses and desires. Maybe it's just easier now to find someone to cut off your penis than it used to be in the olden days. I know there were eunuchs in certain cultures in the past, but I don't think that was by choice.

I can understand wanting to exert control over one's body. But for most of us that would mean losing a few pounds or starting a workout program!

n.n म्हणाले...

Trans/neo-gender simulation therapy.

Iman म्हणाले...

If this could be monetized/productized…

https://x.com/OntWtf/status/1788719908634996962

Heartless Aztec म्हणाले...

Wasn't this a drive in movie plot from a low budget American International Films back in the 1960's? No? Well, it should've been.

planetgeo म्हणाले...

"Eunuchmaker", eh? Wasn't that the code name the Secret Service had for Hillary?

YoungHegelian म्हणाले...

And in all this gonad clopping, did anyone ask something useful, like, "Hey can any of us sing Handel operas"?

The Ancients at least could get some beauty out of their vices and perversions, unlike us moderns.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

There are some distinctions from gender affirmation surgery:

1. It was done by people who were not medical professionals and not in a hospital setting.

2. Those performing the procedure may have experienced sexual gratification.

3. The procedure was performed on camera and watched on line by paying customers.

4. Some severed body parts were sold.

5. Some severed body parts were displayed in an artful "salad" arrangement to be looked at for pleasure and, it seems, eaten.

Wince म्हणाले...

"There are other solutions than 'hand me the dick saw.'"

Narr म्हणाले...

Their bodies, their choice.

I can't help but think that the world would be a better place if meaningless clumps of cells like these had been aborted by the meaningless clumps they emerged from.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"American men have been emasculated and castrated by the feminist dominated education system for the last 40 years."

You sound like a cry-baby, bub. Can't handle it? Man Up!

Big Mike म्हणाले...

A feminist’s dream: getting paid big bucks to castrate men. And just figuratively.

Look lady, we can’t help it that you were born inferior to us men. It’s just how things are and you just need to cope.

/sarc

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

Eunuch Maker sounds like a kick-ass name for a Nordic heavy death-metal band, or maybe even a weapons system. There's a version of the Hellfire missile (R9X) with a warhead replaced by folding blades to reduce collateral damage by slicing targets to ribbons.

They should rename it the R9X-EunuchMaker.

Old and slow म्हणाले...

You might say that Althouse has thrown a bit of raw meat to her comments section, artfully arranged with a salad, of course.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"I'm starting to think that Western nations, on the whole, have way too much wealth, way too much free time to gaze at ourselves, our navels, and other people's 'navels', and more indoctrination than education."

It's called Affluenza, and you're 100% right.

Enigma म्हणाले...

@Althouse: There are some distinctions from gender affirmation surgery:

Hmmm? A lawyer's distinction without a difference? The Vanderbilt University chop-for-profit, long-term aftercare profit, and "get on board" bullying was more evil...those credentialed Josef Mengele proteges were paid by a brand-name university to butcher mentally people, and not just a self-formed group of underground mentally ill people.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/vanderbilt-transgender-surgery-suspended-b2199074.html

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Lurid? This guy and his crew would be lionized by the Left. The only difference is that the American child mutilators use sterile techniques, are trained surgeons and there is no pay-per -view (yet).

Levi Starks म्हणाले...

I hope you’re not surprised that there were willing volunteers.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"I'm just thinking about, let's say a poor family in Sri Lanka. Are there sons among them dreaming of removing their penis? Or are they more likely thinking only as far as their next meal and how to come by it?"

According to Maslow's "Hierarchy of Needs, obtaining one's next meal is part of the first and most urgent of human needs, located in the bottom (foundational) tier of the pyramid of needs. Seeking body-changing surgery would be among the last needs one might seek to obtain, those needs with which we concern ourselves after the preceding more necessary needs have been met, part of the top two tiers of the pyramid.

The five levels of the hierarchy pyramid, from the bottom (most urgent) and moving up to the apex, are:

1. Physiological needs
2. Safety needs
3. Love/belonging
4. Esteem
5. Self-actualization.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Ann Althouse said...

There are some distinctions from gender affirmation surgery:

1. It was done by people who were not medical professionals and not in a hospital setting.


So standard guild protectionism.

2. Those performing the procedure may have experienced sexual gratification.

Have you listened to the people pushing transgenderism? Their hatred of Penises is glaring and they are thrilled with every eunuch created. This is not a difference.

3. The procedure was performed on camera and watched on line by paying customers.

So they were just honest about what they are doing rather than hiding it from parents. Refreshing for these ghouls. Parents only wish they could see what is being done to their kids in the darkness.

4. Some severed body parts were sold.

Selling aborted baby parts is a billion dollar industry for Planned Parenthood. It is just that people who report on that billion dollar industry are attacked by the regime.

And it also mirrors exactly what is going on here.

5. Some severed body parts were displayed in an artful "salad" arrangement to be looked at for pleasure and, it seems, eaten.

I guess that is worse than ordering specific baby parts for research. More salacious at least.

Somehow worse.

Is it worse?

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Gusty Winds (2x) wins the thread. Nice!

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Eating body parts? How do we know that the body parts weren't from Joe Biden's Uncle Bosie?

Humperdink म्हणाले...

@ Ann. Yes the distinctions are obvious, but so are the similarities to the butchering occurring in US hospitals. Speaking of similarities, am I only one who pictures Planned Parenthood selling body parts?

cubanbob म्हणाले...

There are some distinctions from gender affirmation surgery:

Distinction without a difference?

Lilly, a dog म्हणाले...

This seems (in)appropriate.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

Ann Althouse said...

"There are some distinctions from gender affirmation surgery:

1. It was done by people who were not medical professionals and not in a hospital setting.


As if hospital settings are perfectly safe. Staph infections, botched procedures and various/sundry malpractices can and do happen.

2. Those performing the procedure may have experienced sexual gratification.

Who knows what pleasures are experienced by gender transition practitioners?

3. The procedure was performed on camera and watched on line by paying customers.

Just wait, Hollywood will catch up. Wouldn't surprise me if it showed up on "Criminal Minds."

4. Some severed body parts were sold.

Who buys, sells and uses fetal tissue acquired from abortion clinics (Yes, fetal tissue, but who knows what happens to transitioners' body parts post-surgical?)

5. Some severed body parts were displayed in an artful "salad" arrangement to be looked at for pleasure and, it seems, eaten."

Might come up in Joe Biden's cannibal fantasies.

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

D'oh! Achilles beat me to it, and said it better. Ah, well.

n.n म्हणाले...

Clinical cannibalism. Planned Patienthood (PP).

TickTock म्हणाले...

Willow read after the jump. Thank you.

Do not need that in my day.

TickTock म्हणाले...

Willow read after the jump. Thank you.

Do not need that in my day.

n.n म्हणाले...

Performing human rites and resolving gender dysphoria without a license, without "sharing responsibility". That said, adult Choices by consensus? Or without before six weeks? Perhaps deemed a "burden". Hunan carbon served on a cold, gray slab, with a chalice of urine is a model of modern art.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Nice comment by Achilles.

I think this is going to be an epic thread.

Saint Croix म्हणाले...

If he was charging people to watch him decapitate unborn children, they'd say he was a feminist hero.

Is abortion an "extreme body modification"?

What upsets liberals is not the violence, but the capitalism and the pay-per-view. As long as you do your atrocities in private, liberals are fine with it.

iowan2 म्हणाले...


No matter what is brought up in conversation, you can always add. "There's a fetish for that"

And. . . This is not political at all.

Some of our political divide is created by the notion the Government MUST recognize and give Protected class to someones personal fetish. With trans, it only takes a minute slice of population, a crazy small number of people, to seek protected class for their fetish.

cassandra lite म्हणाले...

At some point we’re going to have to have a serious conversation about the amount of severe mental illness in our populations. The Overton window for what’s tolerable was destroyed with a wrecking ball once we decided gender could be changed at will (and scalpel). It’s like the Friday the 13th movies that kept having to up the gore factor each time out.

William म्हणाले...

Dysphoria is a real thing, and the proper response for people suffering from this condition is pity. Our current President suffered from hair dysphoria. There used to be a belief among many Democrats that only politicians with Kennedy quality hair were worthy of our highest office. Joe Biden submitted to several painful and invasive procedures in order to obtain worthy hair. These procedures were ultimately in vain but this just goes to show you how intense his dysphoric feelings were.. Ironically it was Joe Biden himself who went to show his fellow Democrats that balding men can hold high office.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"'Some severed body parts were displayed in an artful "salad" arrangement to be looked at for pleasure and, it seems, eaten.' I guess that is worse than ordering specific baby parts for research. More salacious at least."

Saladacious.

"You might say that Althouse has thrown a bit of raw meat to her comments section, artfully arranged with a salad, of course."

Carpaccio!

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Althouse writes, "There are some distinctions from gender affirmation surgery..."

There's another distinction Althouse doesn't list. Degreed physicians who perform "gender affirmation surgery" tacitly claim or strongly imply that the knife will transform the victim... er, patient... from man to woman or from woman to man. That's a bloody lie. Everybody knows it, but the fascists hold onto power by suppressing truth and sanctifying lies.

A hundred years ago, nobody with a brain really believed the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was anything but a particularly stupid calumny. Nor did they really believe there was ever a master race called the Aryans. But if you wanted that brown uniform and boots, you spoke the mandatory lies. Today's no different. To be counted among the cool kids one must declaim the sacred mendacities and shout the holy howlers, including biology denial. The Knife makes Woman, says the gender affirming mountebank, not genetics and embryogenesis. This at least was not among the sins of Marius Gustavson. The domain name spoke the truth loud and clear.

mikee म्हणाले...

The BBC should not be used as your standard for bloggable.

iowan2 म्हणाले...

I posted before puttin up my comment.

But a LIST! cool

1.Credentialed vs accomplished. licensing is just market protection

2.Unsure about the Credentialed, who knows what lurks in the loins of men

3.Planned Parenthood ? ? ?

4. Body parts as art. Sounds like breaking norms, something artists strive for. Has a line been crossed? Yesterdays post, I mentioned Piss Christ. Robert Maplethorpe comes to mind. The problem with breaking norms is normalizing the deviant. Exactly where does that end? I mean Killing a healthy baby at 39 weeks? So says a Presidential candidate.

Norms is getting very difficult.

Howard म्हणाले...

Trump does this psychosomatically to his base of support every day:
"Thank you sir, may I have another"

n.n म्हणाले...

Sadomasochism may be queer, a peculiar fetish, a sexual orientation, but... #NoJudgment #NoLabels. Don't forget government licensing requirements, and submission of Medicare, Social Security, and sales taxes is a shared responsibility.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Robert Cook said...

"American men have been emasculated and castrated by the feminist dominated education system for the last 40 years."

You sound like a cry-baby, bub. Can't handle it? Man Up!

The driving force in society is procreation.

If you crush low status men and force the vast majority of them into a situation where they have no opportunity to find a mate or pass on genes to the next generation the inevitable result is war. This pattern has repeated so many times in history.

You are either stupid or you want war.

iowan2 म्हणाले...

Wouldn't surprise me if it showed up on "Criminal Minds."

Great catch. We loved the first season or two. But it got way too dark. Then the realization that it truly is art following reality.

In the end the thing constantly banging about in my skull, was how sick and broken the writers were. Better for our attitude to go watch reruns of Big Bang.

Bill, Republic of Texas म्हणाले...

1. It was done by people who were not medical professionals and not in a hospital setting.(Gosnell's clinic was more dangerous)

2. Those performing the procedure may have experienced sexual gratification.(Gosnell and that abortion doctor in Indiana)

3. The procedure was performed on camera and watched on line by paying customers. (Doctor students)

4. Some severed body parts were sold.(Planned Parenthood)

5. Some severed body parts were displayed in an artful "salad" arrangement to be looked at for pleasure and, it seems, eaten. (Afterbirth)

Sounds a lot like abortion.

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Hilarity Ensues!
Can't make this shit up.
Robert Rodriguez can though.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

He was only a few years too early, and only on the limb removal.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

They all sound like model democrats.

As for putting a smile on somebody's face, that could be done with surgery as well.

How can people like this live in a modern, connected, surveillance state (especially Britain) and not be identified early before they can get into shenanigans?

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Gusty Winds at 7:59am

Nailed it...

Misinforminimalism म्हणाले...

Isn't this just a licensure issue these days? Hardly the stuff of felonies.

Roger Sweeny म्हणाले...

"I'm just thinking about, let's say a poor family in Sri Lanka. Are there sons among them dreaming of removing their penis?"

Well, there are people in the Philippines who have themselves nailed to crosses for Easter.

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

Sally327:
Maybe it's just easier now to find someone to cut off your penis than it used to be in the olden days. I know there were eunuchs in certain cultures in the past, but I don't think that was by choice.

Castration does not involve removing the penis. That's going the extra mile.

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

Ann Althouse:
1. It was done by people who were not medical professionals and not in a hospital setting.

2. Those performing the procedure may have experienced sexual gratification.


Minor point: Nothing precludes medical professionals from #2.

Rocco म्हणाले...

Robert Cook said...
Maslow's "Hierarchy of Needs from the bottom and moving up to the apex, are:

1. Physiological needs
2. Safety needs
3. Love/belonging
4. Esteem
5. Self-actualization
6. Posting a comment on Althouse.


FIFY

effinayright म्हणाले...

Gusty Winds said...
American men have been emasculated and castrated by the feminist dominated education system for the last 40 years. There are thousands of Eunichmakers in our public schools and universities.
************

My 5th grade teacher was actually named Eunice Eunuchmaker.

Honest.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Joe Smith said...

They all sound like model democrats.

As for putting a smile on somebody's face, that could be done with surgery as well.


They made a movie about that you know.

JaimeRoberto म्हणाले...

Huh, Norwegian. I was expecting German.

Iman म्हणाले...

There must be a cheaper, more effective way to settle their hash.

Iman म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Jake म्हणाले...

Huh. Reminds me of something else. I can't quite put my finger on what exactly.

typingtalker म्हणाले...

The severity of today's sentence should act as a warning to others that performing extreme body modifications is against the law and the CPS won't hesitate to prosecute these horrendous crimes.

Does this mean that in a law book somewhere, "extreme body modifications" is/are defined? If so, a printed version would probably sell well.

Craig Mc म्हणाले...

So, not much different to gender reassignment surgery then.

Bunkypotatohead म्हणाले...

I was OK with Brain Salad Surgery, but this is just nuts.

Josephbleau म्हणाले...

Like a demi snuff film and as evil. But the trans community is all in.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

He just wanted to put smiles on people's faces.

So what were the smiles made of?

Rusty म्हणाले...

Wince @ 8:33
Winnah! Two coffee through noses!