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"Everyone’s going to say 'Joe Rogan was right.' No, Joe Rogan was saying – yeah, he was right – that’s not what matters.”

"What matters is, the entire medical community knew that Ivermectin couldn’t hurt you. They knew it … I know they knew it. How do I know? Because now I’m doing nothing but talking to these clinicians, who at the time were overwhelmed by COVID, and they weren’t saying anything!... My doctor was using it during COVID on her family and on her patients, and it was working for them. So. They were wrong to play scared on that. Didn’t know that at the time. Know it now, admit it now, reporting on it now."

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Achilles म्हणाले...

The justification for requiring the "vaccine" was that there were no other treatments available.

The data from India was unmistakable AT THE TIME.

There was ample evidence at the time that Ivermectin worked for COVID. Massive populations and clear medical benefit. Fewer deaths, shorter sickness duration. There were regions in India that gave Ivermectin to everyone and regions that didn't side by side. Ivermectin save millions of lives.

This was known AT THE TIME.

The people who attacked Ivermectin knew what they were doing and why. Thousands of people died because of them. They are terrible people and really if they do not show repentance at this point they should be shipped to China. They are evil and we should not want people like that around.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

but horse pill
but horse pill
but horse pill
but horse pill


said the collective hivemind left - in unison.... with loyalty and Nazi-like perseverance.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Don't you mean Trump was right?

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

A very rare admission of error by the Left.

Now there has to be some accountability.

I asked the now President of the University of Nebraska system and former CEO of the University of Nebraska Medical Center, Dr. Jeff Gold, to apologize for UNMC's report sentencing Nebraska school kids to an additional year of worthless masks. No response.

The way the Left dealt with Covid was the single biggest unforced domestic public policy error in the history of America. Change my mind.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The corrupt leftwing media obey their pay-masters on the corrupt money whore left.

That would be Big Fauci and Bid Pharma.

Take the jab - or else.

mindnumbrobot म्हणाले...

Cuomo is such a fraud. Nothing he says, even when correct, is genuine.

The Real Andrew म्हणाले...

On the subject of Covid, there’s a great interview with Dr. Scott Atlas concerning how Stanford treated him here:
https://stanfordreview.org/stanfords-censorship-an-interview-with-dr-scott-atlas/

stlcdr म्हणाले...

Why? Follow the money.

Why would a government suppress the use of a cheap and commonly available medicine, to the point of threatening to revoke practitioner licenses of those who would proscribe it, if it was effective in combatting a potential pandemic?

Why indeed.

Birches म्हणाले...

Getting cancelled will do wonders for where you look for information.

gilbar म्हणाले...

The Powers That Be HAD TO be able to say, that NOTHING was effective for fighting Covid
Because if NOTHING worked.. Then ALL restrictions on testing/side effects/cost went out the window

The Covid vaxes were rushed out into production, without safeguards.. because NOTHING worked.
IF Covid was like a bad cold or flu..
IF Covid was NOT fatal, in ALL occurrences..
IF Covid was treatable by ANY existing therapy..
THEN the WHOLE Covid Vax push could not, and WOULD NOT have been legal.
Thus, ANY one disagreeing HAD TO be eliminated

It's been what? four years? how many people that refused vaccination are dead? Should be MOST of them.
But, instead; MOST of the people who have gotten Covid WERE Vaxed.
MOST of the people who have DIED from Covid WERE Vaxed.

n.n म्हणाले...

Emergency Use Authorization.

gilbar म्हणाले...

the True Secret was (and IS) that:
The Best Thing you could do to fight Covid, was to sit outside in the sun
Fresh Air
Ultraviolet radiation
Increased vitamin D
Calm clear thoughts, with lowered anxiety

But, INSTEAD, IF you tried to sit out on the beach, or in the park.. You'd be ARRESTED.

WHY?
Because IF people had started doing that.. Covid rates would have plummeted, and then No Vax $

John henry म्हणाले...

The test for approval of any drug by FDA is whether it is "safe and effective"

I don't know whether ivermectin is effective against kung flu.

I do know that it is one of the safest drugs ever. A billion people take it daily with no ill effect.

The ONLY reason not to let it be used for kung flu was that if it was even a little bit effective, Pfizer and Modernas shots could not legally have been authorized.

Cuomo should be ashamed of himself.

John Henry

gilbar म्हणाले...

finally, IF Trump had been reelected; WHO would be The LOUDEST voice against Trump's Vaccine?
That's right.. The DNC

rehajm म्हणाले...

The RN in my doctors office was threatened by the pharmacy where they tried to order ivermectin. The doctors were all cowards. They owe us an apology then they need to commit seppuku. I won’t hold my breath. In January I saw the leftie doctor and his wife in my community wearing masks outside near the pickleball courts.

NKP म्हणाले...

I might forgive dumb-ass pols who know little about anything but how can you forgive our most respected medical institutions who damn well knew better. The Mayo Clinic and many others have some splainin' to do.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

In the summer of 2020, the federal government of India -- officially socialist, mind you, and therefore infallible according to people who think (if think is the word) like Rachel Maddow, Stephen Colbert (pronounced kol-BEAR like no one, particularly the French, pronounce it) and Cenk Uygur, handed out millions of COVID self-treatment kits. The primary component -- ivermectin tablets.

Now, I for one, would not put assured trust in statistics gathered in India. All statistical data have limited shelflives, consequently canvassing a billion people with health questions is forensically challenging, to say the least. Nevertheless, the reported COVID-related deaths in India were proportionally fewer than in the Fauci-enlighted United States. At the same time, a British nurse holding a doctorate in the field started a YouTube channel devoted to COVID measures practiced outside the EU that enjoyed some degree of efficacy even though condemned as heresy by the WHO priesthood. YouTube banned him for misinformation regarding ivermectin. Now we have the Chief Accolite admitting to unorthodoxy. How shocking. Either the priesthood must be defrocked, or Chris Cuomo is a horse.

rehajm म्हणाले...

During the covid oppression the RN in my doctor’s office was threatened by the pharmacy where they tried to order ivermectin. The doctors were all cowards. They owe us an apology then they need to commit seppuku. I won’t hold my breath. In January I saw the leftie doctor and his wife in my community wearing masks outside near the pickleball courts. Fuck you…

Ice Nine म्हणाले...

There were about twenty studies at the time from around the world that showed Ivermectin's effectiveness against Covid. Some of them small, a couple of them large, mostly with good technique. I saved the abstracts, and some of the study reports themselves. There was no question it was effective in early treatment. These studies of course were not publicized.

On the other side were a couple large studies that the powers-that-be and their MSM parrots constantly quoted. I read these studies - one from Canada and one from South America, IIRC. The subjects of them were hospitalized patients most of whom, obviously, were already trying to die from Covid (with many succeeding). They told us nothing about the effectiveness of Ivermectin in early Covid treatment or as prophylaxis yet they were used to snuff the idea of Ivermectin as useful in Covid.

I discussed this at the time with some of my medical colleagues who were still in practice. They understood that Ivermectin was good. But they couldn't prescribe it for their at-risk patients (pretty much limited to old, sick, fat people) because it had been made unequivocally clear to physicians that their licenses were at stake.

rehajm म्हणाले...

There needs to be a level of trust between doctor and physician. Going along with a political campaign at the expense of your patients is not a way to earn trust…

rehajm म्हणाले...

The AMA is one of those organizations once a reliable authority, now hollowed out with lefties running it for the benefit of Democrats…

Ignorance is Bliss म्हणाले...

In Chris Coumo's case he probably is just taking it as a dewormer.

Dude1394 म्हणाले...

Yup, big pharma made billions and the doctors, administrators, media, government all dipped their beak.

REFUSING to prescribe something that MIGHT work ( and had been shown to even if not controlled studies ) AND is safer than IBUPROFEN is flat out negligence. They have thousands and thousands of deaths on their hands.

Begin the tar, feathering and incarcerations.

Iman म्हणाले...

Cuomo has a “come to Fredo” moment.

Rafe म्हणाले...

“The way the Left dealt with Covid was the single biggest unforced domestic public policy error in the history of America. Change my mind.”

You’re the one in error, Dave, in assuming the decisions that were made, were PUBLIC POLICY decisions AT ALL. They were not. The decisions served EXACTLY the ends they were intended to serve. It was and continues to be a great success from the left’s perspective.

- Rafe

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"My doctor was using it during COVID on her family and on her patients, and it was working for them."

Meanwhile, the FDA was telling us that it was not safe for humans. They knew this was a lie. They told us this lie so their friends could make money, while our friends died. We should not be funding a war against Russia. We should be funding a war against the District of Columbia.

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

It will be interesting to see who will fall for the bullshit the gov will pump out over the flu.

How many people will be barking to others outside to keep some arbitrary distance away that originated in a high schooler's project?

Achilles म्हणाले...

Dave Begley said...

The way the Left dealt with Covid was the single biggest unforced domestic public policy error in the history of America. Change my mind.

There was no error made. They knew exactly what they were doing.

They were fascist shitheads who knew what they were doing was evil. But they wanted power.

Everyone else was a kneeling sheep to one extent or another.

The only difference was how long you knelt. There were a lot of Good Germans out there that went along with it willingly too.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

Looks like someone was about to out Fredo's use of ivermectin, so he got out in front of the story.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Jupiter said...

"My doctor was using it during COVID on her family and on her patients, and it was working for them."

Meanwhile, the FDA was telling us that it was not safe for humans. They knew this was a lie. They told us this lie so their friends could make money, while our friends died. We should not be funding a war against Russia. We should be funding a war against the District of Columbia.

Everyone at the FDA should be fired. CDC and NIH too.

At least half of them should be thrown in jail or shipped to China.

Achilles म्हणाले...

And after we ship all of the fascist shitheads to China we should bomb it for releasing COVID on the world.

This is somewhat in jest.

Somewhat.

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

The lies told to the American public during COVID rivals to coerce compliance is right up there with small pox blankets and the trail of tears. Pure evil. Fauci and the bitch Birx.

It's one thing for governments to lie to their own people. That's expected. Liberal media and big tech are like the gov't. But to also come from the Medical Community and the Education Establishment is pure, real...fascism. I'd like to think it was stupidity and ignorance. But it was more arrogance and self-preservation. Chris Cuomo is an asshole, but at least he's willing to admit he was duped and lied to.

How many people died being refused cost effective treatments like Ivermectin and HCQ? How many are now clot shot injured because it was the only socially acceptable option?

DKWalser म्हणाले...

I've had COVID twice (that I know of). The last time, I asked my doctor about taking Ivermectin. She said it was a good idea but she would not prescribe it for me because of the FDA's guidance. She'd take it if she had COVID and would give it to her family, but she could not assist her patients in obtaining it.

Leland म्हणाले...

Jack ass is calling the doctors scared. As noted above, the NHS, FDA, and CDC gave the advice, and various other entities went so far as to threaten to disqualify the licenses of doctors that proscribed Ivermectin.

Here is the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/pennsylvania-doctor-ivermectin-fired.html

Here is PBS: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/investigation-reveals-lack-of-consequences-for-doctors-spreading-covid-misinformation

NBC: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspended-texas-doctor-promoted-ivermectin-covid-treatment-resigns-hos-rcna5833

Yahoo News: https://www.yahoo.com/news/yakima-doctor-license-restricted-prescribing-232400494.html

WaPo in 2023 whining the doctors weren't punished enough for prescribing Ivermectin: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/07/26/covid-misinformation-doctor-discipline/

And of course CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/26/us/covid-ivermectin-arkansas-doctor/index.html

Assholes like Chris Cuomo were the jerks afraid to investigate and speak truth to power.

Gospace म्हणाले...

The medical practice my son goes t6in The Free State of Florida prescribed ivermectin to their patients during the covidiocy. None of their patients died. Prescriptions were filled by an independent compounding pharmacy since all the chains buckled under to government pressure. In the dictatorship of NY under Emperor Hochul we obtained ours from a mail order overseas pharmacy and had it ready for when we finally contracted the dreaded covid. Long after all our vaxxed and double or triple vaxxed acquaintances had it once or more.

Statistically, it worked. We lived so we added to the successful numbers. Unofficially since there's no official record we treated ourselves.

Every US study on any treatment other than the officially approved ones was designed to show nothing worked, it was useless to try. I'm particularly critical of the VA one where they administered one megadose of Vitamin D to patients already in the ICU and announced Vitamin D was worthless. Sort of like saying the barn door doesn't work because the cows are already out...

No one will be held to account for their deliberate lies by the legal establishment- because they were part of it.

JAORE म्हणाले...

So your Doc used it on her family during Covid. But likely denied it to others.

If one of those other families lost a loved on is the Doc legally liable?

Aggie म्हणाले...

So now it becomes clear, the mechanism by which the Pharmaceutical Industry hoodwinked the world on their untested pseudo-vaccines in a liability-free, government sanctioned playground. Now it becomes clear also, the lack of integrity displayed by the scientific community, the medical community, and our policy makers. Only the latter has the excuse that they were misinformed, but that is a weak excuse.

Now that we all are starting to understand the breathtaking scope of this disaster, the human cost and the societal cost of destroyed integrity, now comes accountability.

Do we all realize that failing to pursue and effect accountability means that we are implicitly signing up for another, worse such event? The process of accountability is what keeps the integrity alive, keeps people on the straight and narrow. Only that; nothing else will do it. The Nuremberg trials is the reason that Western Civilization has not has another genocide-producing war in 80 years. We need a similar format, I think. And our political leadership is still failing us, by failing to prioritize stripping pharmaceutical companies of their Free Pass.

Static Ping म्हणाले...

He's trying to reinvent himself so he can get a job.

The attack on Ivermectin was political and had nothing to do with science. The fact that the media dogpiled the "horse pill" BS tells you how little they care about doing their duties as journalists. Just another point for the conspiracy theorists.

Anthony म्हणाले...

Been in and around public health/epidemiology most of my adult life. When the Covids first hit, I really was thinking something like "Okay, my profession can finally use its accumulated wisdom".

Probably should have known better, having also been in and around universities the whole time. I tend to think (and I saw a little bit of research on this) that the rank and file didn't agree with much or most of what was being promulgated, but most just went along because they were young enough to have their careers ruined by rocking the boat.

I don't think very many learned their lesson from this; most of what I read from the university crowd is that they all think they did a wonderful job and, if anything, they weren't authoritarian enough.

Lance म्हणाले...

"There was ample evidence at the time that Ivermectin worked for COVID."

That's imprecise. The India studies showed ivermectin helping with Covid, but studies in Europe and the United States did not. One suggested difference: ivermectin fights parasites. India has more problems with parasites. Parasites complicate Covid. So the India studies show ivermectin helping with Covid because of parasite fighting quality, which reduced Covid complications. Thus ivermectin helps if you have parasites and Covid, but not if you only have Covid.

Dude1394 म्हणाले...

"Blogger rehajm said...
There needs to be a level of trust between doctor and physician. Going along with a political campaign at the expense of your patients is not a way to earn trust…

5/10/24, 11:13 AM"

Not any more there isn't. My doctor prescribed one course but then the democrat big pharma agents got to him. Went online and got plenty but the pharmacies started to give me crap. Found a compounding pharmacy.

Took it for quite a while. Went to nightclubs, bars, groceries everywhere. Never got covid. Sure circumstantial but.... No reason not to take ivermectin, safter than ibuprofen.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

"finally, IF Trump had been reelected; WHO would be The LOUDEST voice against Trump's Vaccine?
That's right.. The DNC"


Bingo! They would have been dead set against it, just as they were before the election.

When Biden 'won,' they did a complete 180...

Assistant Village Idiot म्हणाले...

I am so tired of this. Ivermectin works on other diseases. You don't want to have other diseases when you have Covid. Because then your risks from Covid increase.

That's it. There is still no evidence, as in zero, that it works on Covid. There are association studies, correlational studies, all explained by Ivermectin's effect on other diseases. Even the reasoning in the comments here is generally of that poor quality: Well, we hate the government, so what they said must be wrong. Well, they didn't pay enough attention to economic impacts, so their medical info must be wrong. I just wish people here would listen to themselves - and for the record, I usually have considerably agreement with the crew here.

It is ironic how many people get incensed that the Other Guys are not rethinking their position - when they themselves are not remotely close to rethinking their positions.

loudogblog म्हणाले...

First Rogan is smeared for taking a horse dewormer.
Then RFK Jr is smeared because he had a brain worm.

I think I'm seeing a propaganda pattern.

"Nobody likes me.
Everybody hates me.
I think I'll go eat worms."

Leland म्हणाले...

We shouldn't forget that former DoJ employees were working at Twitter and other social media companies to coerce them to deplatform those suggesting Ivermectin effectiveness.

They are too busy prosecuting Trump of fraud for us to hold them to responsible for their fraud.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Lance said...

"There was ample evidence at the time that Ivermectin worked for COVID."

That's imprecise. The India studies showed ivermectin helping with Covid, but studies in Europe and the United States did not. One suggested difference: ivermectin fights parasites. India has more problems with parasites. Parasites complicate Covid. So the India studies show ivermectin helping with Covid because of parasite fighting quality, which reduced Covid complications. Thus ivermectin helps if you have parasites and Covid, but not if you only have Covid.

So the Western science community lied about everything having to do with COIVD.

Now we have a choice between studies in India and US/European studies.

Western Medical entities lied about everything else having to do with COVID. The entire Western Medical community got caught not just lying, but also censoring people with legitimate information. And they made billions off a "vaccine."

But you still want to use their studies to support your claims.

You people are just incorrigible. In order to believe what you are arguing here would mean you are so fucking stupid that I am going to conclude you are evil because you actually use words and can apparently remember to breath. Go to a BLM rally but argue that Trump rallies will spread COVID while you are at it.

Ivermectin saved lives in India. It could have done so here.

Only terrible people defend what was done with crap like this.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Assistant Village Idiot said...

I am so tired of this. Ivermectin works on other diseases. You don't want to have other diseases when you have Covid. Because then your risks from Covid increase.

That's it. There is still no evidence, as in zero, that it works on Covid. There are association studies, correlational studies, all explained by Ivermectin's effect on other diseases.


This is just stupid. Keep defending western medicine if you want. Maybe some masked dancing nurses can keep you cheered up at a BLM rally.

Studies out of India have far more weight than the studies out of the West that came from institutions that were caught lying about everything.

Just remember that in 2020 we found the cure for pneumonia! Nobody died of pneumonia in 2020 according to the CDC. But it stopped working in 2021 for some reason.

Finding cures for things is tough.

Gemna म्हणाले...

There's not good evidence ivermectin works, but its safer than hydroxychloroquine and off-label use of drugs is VERY common with widely varying levels of evidence. Fluoxetine & NAC were also used for Covid, but those didn't get politicized. Corticosteroids were only proven to help in very specific severe situations in hospitalized patients,not for outpatient use. Paxlovid was only proven in high risk, unvaccinated patients, but anyone can get it with no more than an online survey. Yep, for Covid, that now counts a valid doctor/patient relationship

Also, if you want to call ivermectin a horse dewormer then every article about puberty blockers should instead refer to their use as chemical castration.

Achilles म्हणाले...

JAORE said...

So your Doc used it on her family during Covid. But likely denied it to others.

If one of those other families lost a loved on is the Doc legally liable?


You need to go look up "Standard of Care."

As long as doctors follow the Standard of Care they are more or less immune to lawsuits.

The Standard of Care in the United States is to completely ignore obesity, metabolic disease, and insulin resistance and to prescribe you statins and ozempic.

It is almost as if they want people to be fat, stupid, sick and taking medicine all the time.

And who died of COVID? Fat, stupid, lazy people with vitamin D deficiency because they didn't go outside get sun and exercise.

It almost seems like they wanted as many people to die of COVID as possible.

But they also told you that wearing a cloth mask would help.

Wait wut?

Achilles म्हणाले...

DKWalser said...

I've had COVID twice (that I know of). The last time, I asked my doctor about taking Ivermectin. She said it was a good idea but she would not prescribe it for me because of the FDA's guidance. She'd take it if she had COVID and would give it to her family, but she could not assist her patients in obtaining it.



Public.

Videotaped.

Shown to future generations as a warning.

Jim at म्हणाले...

We were right about everything. Every. Thing.

And not a damn thing will happen to the people who were wrong and put us through three+ years of hell.

There are members of my family I'm no longer speaking to because not only were they wrong, they STILL cannot admit they were wrong.

They can all go to hell.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

That isn’t much of an apology. People who listened to him and followed his advice not to use Ivermectin but to get vaccinated instead, how many of them died from catching COVID because the vaccines were of limited value (as in no damned good at all)? How many died from the side effects of the mRNA vaccines? Side effects that have been known since the beginning but which are only now being s-l-o-w-l-y acknowledged? Thousands? Tens of thousands? Scores of thousands? More?

Hey! Omelets — eggs. Who cares how many died if they succeeded in getting rid of Trump? In her memoirs Deborah Birx admitted that the goal of her and Fauci was not to see the people of the United States safely through a dangerous pandemic, but to get rid of Trump. So all in a good cause, you know.

Birx, Fauci, Rochelle Walensky — are we going to see apologies from any of them? (Tell me, Althouse, do liberal woman ever apologize for anything no matter how wrong they’ve been? Or that just not done.)

How about our resident lefty trolls, folks like Gadfly, Freder, or Howard the Fool? Which of you, besides Howard the Fool, offered up condemnation to people cautious about taking the jab? And which of you insisted that Ivermectin only did well in India because so many people from India had parasites? Any of you going to apologize?

tommyesq म्हणाले...

Hey Chris Cuomo - Joe Rogan was right!

Howard म्हणाले...

If Chris Cuomo says it works, it must be true.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Gemna said...

There's not good evidence ivermectin works,

You people are just lying at this point.

Flat out lying.

Notice how EVERYONE with money is taking Ivermectin now when they get COVID. Every single person. The proof is in the pudding assholes.

It is just dishonest in the extreme to say there is no good evidence at this point.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Jim at said...

We were right about everything. Every. Thing.

And not a damn thing will happen to the people who were wrong and put us through three+ years of hell.


One thing will happen to them.

I am going to point out how wrong they were and what pieces of shit they are in public whenever they try to bring this crap up. I don't think I will be alone.

They are going to be forced to retreat to their little safe spaces on Facebook where they censor people like me. They do not belong in the public square without much deserved humiliation.

And just wait until the next "Epidemic" this fall which is as predictable as clockwork.

We have been inoculated against Fascist bullshit responses. COVID was actually a societal vaccination against Karen Infections.

Our resistance to that disease has been massively boosted.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Howard said...

If Chris Cuomo says it works, it must be true.

7/10

Charlie म्हणाले...

Let's all remember that half of America was listening to Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon for medical advice just a few short years ago.