There is nothing in Megalopolis that feels like something out of a “normal” movie. It has its own logic and cadence and vernacular. The characters speak in archaic phrases and words, mixing shards of Shakespeare, Ovid, and at one point straight-up Latin. Some characters speak in rhyme, others just in high-minded prose that feels like maybe it should be in verse. At one point, Adam Driver does the entire “To be or not to be” soliloquy from Hamlet. Why? I’m not exactly sure. But it sure sounds good....
Watch out for mainstream disaffection based on the fact that this movie contains traces of Ayn Rand:
Coppola, who once planned on adapting Ayn Rand’s The Fountainhead, clearly sides with the [architect] dreamer, but [the Adam Driver character] Cesar is an imperfect vessel. He possesses tremendous powers — in the film’s bravura opening sequence, we see him stop time as he leans precariously off the Chrysler Building — but he’s also an egomaniac, absorbed in his own brilliance and unable to compromise or care for those below him....
AND: From The Guardian:
There are moments when Coppola appears to be channelling Fritz Lang’s Metropolis or Ayn Rand’s The Fountainhead, and its bland, doughy rhetoric about humanity’s potential seems to come from the New Deal era, or even earlier. I found myself thinking of Chaplin’s final speech in The Great Dictator. But the disco-dancing last days of decadent Rome simply feel dated.
I note that Coppola seems especially excited by the concept of a matriarchy. And I pray that Ayn Rand isn’t really in the mix.
Something about ancient Rome and empires falling and reading too much Ayn Rand and how we need to have hope for America or the teen pregnancy rate will skyrocket and people will not have fun at bacchanalian parties at Madison Square Garden anymore. Coppola took inspiration from “everything I had ever read or learned about” to write this, according to the press notes, which comes across. Coppola rightly recognizes that America is in free-fall and something needs to be done, but unfortunately he thinks that “something” is to hand it over to a nice billionaire oligarch who definitely has our best interests at heart, haha, I’m scared, I really hope nobody takes this movie seriously....
Ha ha. Now, you might want to take the movie seriously. I know you. You're one of those guys who thinks about the Roman Empire every day, aren't you? No? Me neither.
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So funny. I just rediscovered Coppola's other "messterpiece," Jerry Brown's attempt to go edgy and new tech, that looked more like a bad remake of Max Headroom. Never saw it on TV, but it's like everything else these days, out on YouTube in all its splendor.
The Shape of Things to Come, Part 1
Part 2 is on the same channel.
Is it true? We can’t tell from initial critic reactions because as I recall the initial reviews for Apocalypse Now (what a title, huh?) and The Godfather were similar to the excerpt selected here by Althouse.
I don't think I've ever giggled in disbelief. I've rolled my eyes. I've shaken my head. I've called bullshit. Who giggles in disbelief? I don't think I've ever even seen it done.
Maybe it's one of those things only film critics do.
Everything I've read about it makes it seem like a baffling, lunatic mess. My kind of movie. I really want to see it, but I read that it's having trouble finding distribution in the US.
sounds like, what to know is: save your money
Coppola has earned the right to make a Joycean stew at the end of his career.
I haven't seen it yet...but do I take the word of assorted scriveners on what an actual genius has imagined and brought to life for our consideration? Ha. The fact they are themselves "confused and divided" and no current studio can tell its ass from its cash to buy it compels me to see it.
Hot takes from retahdid click whores. Fuck these cucks in the neck. Avoid at all costs and just watch the movie with an open mind. Given the monumental work Coppola has produced at great cost, he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Now I'm disappointed FFC didn't make The Fountainhead. Rand's best novel. Plus the hero's name is Howard. Also, the best villain ever: Ellsworth Toohey
Any skin in it?
Maybe there's a drug you need to be on. Which drug is it? Ever go to a movie where other people were on the drug and it was great for them, but you weren't and you could only try to imagine what those people who were out of their mind were getting out of it? Me neither. Not since 1968. The movie? "Green Slime."
Ive been hearing the premise for 30 years since he did the rounds for godfather 3: i think the execution is flawed
Another movie not nearly as good as my, “Frankenstein, Part II.”
Maybe there's a drug you need to be on. Which drug is it?
Coppola Wines.
Fountainhead was a mash note to frank lloyd wright caesar is kind a musk stark figure
He felt strongly enough to self-finance it. That’s a truly hit or miss proposition. But i admire his conviction and courage.
The Late String Quartets. The Tempest. Four Quartets.
Then again, maybe it is a forgettable mess.
Coppola rightly recognizes that America is in free-fall and something needs to be done
YOU are the mother fuckers that are causing the free fall. Abandonment of rule of law, kangaroo courts, prosecution of political enemies and non compliers, Quadrillion dollar wealth redistribution schemes disguised as ‘saving the planet’, literal Bond villains micromanaging humanity from Switzerland while consolidating economic and political power. Fuck you…
I want to see Begley’s Frankenstein, Part II.
I think Kate nailed it at 7:28.
Personally I'm a huge fan of Francis Ford Coppola. He is a multi-dimensional figure (as opposed to a one-dimensional bore), with a brilliant, active mind and a creative drive. I've read and watched some interviews with him over the years that made me interested enough to think he'd be someone I wished I could have had dinner (and wine) with at some point. A very interesting mind.
Given that, I'm sure he's well beyond the mindset of our current journalist class. Throw in a hat tip to Ayn Rand, or the fall of Rome, and one could almost guarantee the hissing from the seats as the movie progressed. I am not a fan of Adam Driver...though I recognize he's a fine actor, something about his bugs me. But I will absolutely, positively go see this movie. And...if it's even close in it's story telling and quality as, say, 'Rumble Fish', 'Peggy Sue got Married', 'The Outsiders', 'Bram Stoker's Dracula', 'The Conversation', 'Tucker: The man and his dream'...that'll be good enough for me. Hell...this would be a list any movie director/writer/producer would call a glorious career. Before even mentioning The Godfather movies and Apocalypse Now.
That some hack critics in our current media landscape can't wrap their minds around it, is not shocking. That would probably take work and...well...who wants to work at things these days that don't involve oneself? It only makes me want to see it more.
Speaking of Ayn Rand, at one time her works were interesting conceptual exercises. Now they are clearly prescient pre-histories of our current times.
Acoppolypes Now!
Two words: Rondanini Pietà
Sometimes a movie is just a movie for good or ill. Just finishing up a great biography of Caesar by Adrian Coldsworthy. A third reread of Fountainhead might be in order too. Wish I could talk my liberal librarian daughter into a reading of it though she's resisted my low key by the way blandishments now for 20 years.
I'll just watch rehajm's comments.
If it's really as confusing as it sounds, it'll probably be available on Criterion Channel by Thanksgiving.
In the old days creative film makers would complain about the neanderthal studio heads who wanted to put "butts in the seats" and not be controversial. But the studioheads kept the writers/Directors connected to the audience. They couldn't be self-indulgent.
This movie sounds like typical artistic self-indulgence. People forget that "Acopolyse Now" took almost 3 years from start to finish because Coppola had written/directed a mess and had to somehow edit it into a half-way decent movie.
Looks like he didn't bother on this one. BTW, he also botched the "Cotton Club" through bad casting (richard Gere) and a nonsensical script.
I could read a lot about the Roman Empire in the time it would take me to watch this (or any other) movie.
Heartless Aztec, that's Goldsworthy, not Coldsworthy. His history is solid, but he's not the writer that Tom Holland is. I'm halfway through "Pax" and enjoying it thoroughly.
I've never read Rand's books, just the extracts and essence. (Same as Freud, and Marx.)
"People forget that 'Acopolyse Now' took almost 3 years from start to finish"
And that's a problem because . . . you were in a hurry?
Shakespeare's last play wasn't The Tempest. It was Henry VIII. The reason you've never seen it is because it isn't very good. Beyond that, Shakespeare went heavy on the special effects. He made improper use of a cannon in the play and that caused the theater to burn down. That's how Shakespeare closed out his career as a playwright. Sometimes, as with Godfather II, you reach for a Shakespearean vibe, and sometimes the Shakespearean vibe reaches for you.
You have to respect Coppola putting his money where his mouth is. The movie sounds like a glorious mess and the reviews are all over the shop — I can't wait to see it.
sound and read like there is a goodly few who are never-AynRanders!
I just wanna ride in Coppola's Tucker '48. Jay Leno did.
The repeated use of "divisive" in the reviews made me think that word had gone out in the review community that there are some elements of right-wing politics in the movie.
"divisive" = clarity [which some don't want]
Sounds like the guardrails were on on this film. I suspect it is really it’s actually a pretty good mindbender. I love Coppola’s work. I do find it sometimes tedious A's much as a love the Godfather films, I can’t bring myself to rewatch them (a lot due to so many content options). But Apocalypse Now Redux is something I can watch anytime (i own it digitally and on Blu Ray)and have often done a late night watch followed by a reread of Conrad’s “Heart of Darkness”. The added scenes in Redux were integral and superfluous at the same time. They added to the individual mental chaos while weren’t necessary to advance the plot. Loved it!
This sounds like a Redux in overdrive. It won’t get me into the theater but when it makes it to streaming, I’ll definitely watch it. Or maybe I will go see it. If it continues to get panned by critics, then I might just drop some coin.
Urban or Green blight, with a human sardine effect in rented, carbon-controlled cubicles.
Narr:
"People forget that 'Acopolyse Now' took almost 3 years from start to finish"
And that's a problem because . . . you were in a hurry?
He told you himself. You just clipped it off with no ellipse for some reason.
because Coppola had written/directed a mess and had to somehow edit it into a half-way decent movie.
@Narr - thanks for the typo catch. I "swipe type" and the letter C being close to the G and elderly eyes...
I have seen every single film Coppola has directed and almost all of the ones he produced. I will watch this one at some point if it makes it to a streaming service.
He is one of the greats- even his poorest efforts shine much more brightly than 95% of the stuff made in the last 10 years.
Oligonicella, would the movie have been less of a mess if Coppola had only taken one year instead of three?
Complaining about that is like complaining that an author took too long to produce a halfway decent book.
I actually took Latin in high school, but I don't think about Rome every day.
These days, I only think about it when someone claims to be "stoic" but, apparently, has never heard of Marcus Aurelius.
Well, I'm definitely going to see it now.
the allusion is to the so called Catiline conspiracy, which was a revolt by one wealthy outsider against the Deep staters of the Roman republic does that sound familiar
I hear there are tits in the film, so a plus there...
Maybe there's a drug you need to be on. Which drug is it? Ever go to a movie where other people were on the drug and it was great for them, but you weren't and you could only try to imagine what those people who were out of their mind were getting out of it? Me neither. Not since 1968. The movie? "Green Slime."
Whoa! That was my favorite movie when I was 12. I was at a sleepover and we saw it in the middle of the night. So funny and cool. Best Japanese monster movie ever!
If they don't want me to watch it this badly, I'm sold. Can't wait.
I love Coppola and his kids. Lost in Translation and CQ are amazing art!
But when that family goes bad, their cinema is so unwatchable. I'll name a few crimes here.
You're a Big Boy Now
The Bling Ring
A Glimpse Inside the Mind of Charles Swan III
And those all had distribution!
Narr:
Oligonicella, would the movie have been ...
I have no idea and neither do you. I was just pointing out that you asked a question he'd already answered.
Wrong, but no matter.
I always wondered about the management at MGM back then when they decided that the studios two big SciFi releases for 1968 would be Green Slime and 2001: A Space Odyssey.
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