79,000 U.S. soldiers were never accounted for after World War II.
Kabuni also says: "The Melanesian group of people, who Papua New Guinea is part of, are a very proud people. And they would find this kind of categorisation very offensive. Not because someone says ‘oh there used to be cannibalism in PNG’ – yes, we know that, that’s a fact. But taking it out of context, and implying that your [uncle] jumps out of the plane and somehow we think it’s a good meal is unacceptable.... There was context. They wouldn’t just eat any white men that fell from the sky."
This paraphrases Kabuni: "Cannibalism was practised by some communities in the past in specific contexts... such as eating a deceased relative out of respect, to prevent their body from decomposing. The practice was not due to people lacking food...."
This paraphrases Kabuni: "Cannibalism was practised by some communities in the past in specific contexts... such as eating a deceased relative out of respect, to prevent their body from decomposing. The practice was not due to people lacking food...."
So Biden's inane muttering was disrespectful to the people of Papua New Guinea and disrespectful to the 79,000 soldiers who were lost.
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"So Biden's inane muttering was disrespectful to the people of Papua New Guinea and disrespectful to the 79,000 soldiers who were lost.
And to Americans, who have to watch our puppet president spout the inanities, day after day, as he descends into dementia while the regime imposes prog rule in his name.
79000! I'd not seen that number before.
Cannibal mother on beach with her child looking skyward at a passing plane.
"What's that, Mom?"
"Oh, they call those things planes. The village gets a real treat when one falls on the beach. They're lobsters."
"Huh?"
"Well, most of it you throw away, but the insides are really good."
Calling a country/region a bunch of cannibals is a lot worse than saying “s—thole countries.”
Where are the “tears of rage!”?
A pilot and his co-pilot were shot down in New Guinea and captured by a primitive native tribe.
The natives tied them to posts and held big celebration that went on far into the night.
The flames were leaping, the drums were throbbing, the natives were dancing. Then, at the height of the festivities, the native chief came up to the 2 captured airman. He looked at the co-pilot and ominously demanded, "Death or Boomba?"
The co-pilot said, "I don't want to die. I can take anything. I choose Boomba."
The natives seized the co-pilot, dragged him to a big log and tied him down. Then, after what was actually a very nice blessing by the witch doctor, every native in the village just absolutely buggered the hell out this guy. By the time they were finished there wasn't much left of him but a quivering lump of flesh.
The chief came up to the pilot and demanded again, "Death or Boomba?"
The pilot looked at the pathetic remnants of his co-pilot and thought, Man...I don't want to end up like that. So he raised his chin, straightened his shoulders and said, "I choose death."
The chief looked into his eyes for a moment and then said, "We choose death by Boomba."
PNG natives favored the allies and hated the Japanese.
According to Wikipedia (with these points sourced): The Korowai (who live on Papua New Guinea and were the tribe believed to have consumed Rockerfeller) have been reported to practice ritual cannibalism up to the present day, and members of the Momuna tribe, a sister tribe of the Korowai, whose tribe does not engage in cannibalism, have stated that the Korowai practice cannibalism as a form of punishment rather than for ritualistic purposes.
Also, the last officially reported case of cannibalism in the Sepik (a PNG province was in 1964 when a group of men raided a neighbouring village for meat – "as their ancestors had for thousands of years."
Not sure the whole "reverential cannibalism" portrayal is accurate.
I worked for a guy who picked cotton early in WWII like a lot of white teens in the south, said he couldn't get out of there fast enough and he enlisted and got stuck in New Guinea for the duration, said if he ever got back to Texas he'd never leave again LOL>
I for one was quite moved by Biden's Uncle Dookie story.
I think we do have to give President Biden for rememembering that he had an uncle, that he was in the Air Force during World War II and that he took off in a plane and has never been seen again.
And we should also remember that we all process grief in different ways. Some people handle the loss of a loved one by thinking about that person as in a better place or that they will meet again some day on that celestial plane. And some people handle it by thinking about the loved one being eaten by cannibals.
read up on Japanese treatment of captured 20th Air Force personal (B-29 crews)..
Make sure you've already eaten before you start reading..
80k isn't all that many, when you consider the world-wide commitment (not to mention the ability of HE to obliterate all traces of identity, even at known battle locations).
The missing Krauts and Soviets number in the millions.
Also, FJB is a senile fool.
I don't mean to be judgmental but aren't there better ways of showing respect to your deceased relatives than by eating them. Decomposing bodies are certainly difficult to live with, but there are better solutions than cannibalism. I can see why cremation is difficult in a society that doesn't have access to a furnace and even burial when you don't have metal implements or a peat bog handy is problematic. Still, even after taking all these things into consideration, I have to say that I disapprove of eating dead relatives.....Is there anything about indigenous peoples that one can disapprove of? Is there anything about cis white males in an industrialized, capitalist society that is worthy of approval.
“PNG natives favored the allies and hated the Japanese.”
Too tough?
The gift that keeps on giving.
And the lefty looney commentators on this blog defend him to the death.
They don't love Biden.
They love communism and control.
They'd kill their own grandma to be able to control your life.
Bob Boyd,
I guess Bobby Trippe had nothing to complain about.
Biden is a fabulist—he tells tall tales ALL THE TIME to make him and his family out to be bigger than life heroes. So Uncle Bosie was not a mere passenger and courier on the Air Corps airplane, he was the pilot flying solo on a dangerous reconnaissance mission over land in New Guinea. And Uncle Boise’s plane was shot down over land instead ditching nose first in the ocean off the north coast of New Guinea due to engine failure. And of course his body was not missing and never recovered from the ocean, Uncle Bosie was eaten by cannibals!
And in Biden’s fabulous mind, his uncles somehow enlisted on D-Day, June 6, 1944—1 month after Uncle Bosie’s plane ditched in the ocean and he was presumed dead, on May 14, 1944.
"I don't mean to be judgmental but aren't there better ways of showing respect to your deceased relatives than by eating them."
The idea goes back quite a long way. The whole concept of the Eucharist is ingesting the literal body and blood of Christ. I'd say if the PNG's thought that engaging in cannibalism was a way of paying respect to the deceased, then it was in fact a gesture of respect. Were the "better" ways of doing that? It's like asking if shaking hands is the best way of demonstrating civility. Maybe there are "better" ways, but shaking hands happens to be what we do.
In any case, I think the point here isn't that cannibalism was/is a good thing, but that the president was playing into stereotypes that native inhabitants of jungles were vicious barbarians unconstrained by even the most basic standards of decency that we civilized folk take for granted (nevermind the atrocities committed on all sides during WWII!). The story of the president's uncle seems to indicate that his view of "natives" was formed by watching Bob Hope and Abbot & Costello movies and has changed much since.
For the record, I'm all in favor of jokes about cannibalisms and other aspects of foreign cultures, past and present, that strike us as curious. The problem here was that the president wasn't joking -- he revealed a sincere ignorance that the PNGs rightfully find offensive.
Are US servicemen heart healthy?
They may be entitled to reparations if it can be proven that we intentionally encouraged them to make poor nutrition choices.
An amazing thing about Biden is how many of his relatives have fought for the USA in various wars, and even been injured or killed, and yet he has ZERO patriotism and ZERO desire to protect our border or flood the countries with so-called "migrants".
Of course that ties in with his having zero desire to look after the national interests of the USA abroad, or ensure our tax dollars are spend on things that benefit the country as opposed to corruption or wasteful foreign wars. For example, we've wasted $200 Billion keepng the Ukraine war going, and accomplished nothing but kill a lot of conscripted Ukrainians.
But then Biden is just an actor playing a part. The working class Joe, who never did an honest days labor in his life. The Catholic who supports abortion and never goes to mass and worships Israel. The guy from Scranton PA, who spends his life in DC and a multi-million dollar beachhouse in Delaware. The Labor Union Democrat who always sides with big business and breaks railroad strikes. The Presidental leader who just does what Jill and his advisors tell him to do. The lover of all things Black, who marched with MLK and hates Trump's "racism" who has no black friends and is amazed when they're "clean and articulate".
Is it any wonder the aging thespian gets his lines mixed up?
Making up a mythology about oneself is a sign of self doubt and insecurity. Not the traits I would look for in a President.
As stated above, several Japanese officers killed American POW's and then ate their livers or hearts for courage or whatever. Also, in NG when Japanese were running low on food, dead GIs and and Aussie soldiers were found with parts of their bodies cut out and use by Japanese Soldiers as supplmental "meat rations". And lets not bring up what the IJA did in China.
As for MIA, lots of bodies are never found. that includes not just airman or sailors, but Ground troops. There are MIA's from Iwo Jima or Tarawa. Small islands where you'd think every body could be found, but nope, they've just disappeared. Washed out to sea, or blown to pieces, or somehow buried without ID.
I don't mean to be judgmental but aren't there better ways of showing respect to your deceased relatives than by eating them.
It is how you grok them fully.
Planned Prisonerhood including sodomy, and rape-rape of birthing persons. Also ethnic Springs.
Some African cultures would cannibalize their white (i.e. albino) persons in the belief they held rejuvenating properties.
In China, they would cannibalize their excess infants in a diverse diet.
In liberal cultures, they would cannibalize their babies in Planned Parenthood for social, clinical, criminal, political, and climate progress.
Some cultures should not be appropriated.
“There was context. They wouldn’t just eat any white men that fell from the sky."
Hmm. Sounds like a non-denial denial to me.
I’d have to locate the box where I have Dad’s old issues of Yank magazine, but I seem to recall reading an article back
In my childhood where it claimed that the Pacific Islanders sided with the white-skinned Americans and Aussies against the Japanese. If Biden’s uncle Bosie had fallen into the hands of the New Guinea native population they would almost certainly have smuggled him safely back to Port Moresby.
But we know from official records that Uncle Bosie was a passenger in an A-20 “Havoc” that lost both engines and impacted — hard — with the surface of the ocean. Only one of the four people on board was able to exit the plane before it sank beneath the surface, and it was not Bosie.
(I’m using my iPhone to write this and I have had to fight Autocorrect as it keeps changing “Bosie” to “Bodie.”
I remember an old sociology class decades ago that taught me that New Guineans were cannibalistic because there were almost no prey animals around for them to eat and it was the only way to get protein. Pigs were very important in Hawaii, thus the luau.
such as eating a deceased relative out of respect ...
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this could be a hint by the academic ... or a question ?
who the heck in PNG would eat anyone related to FJB? USA can have him to hors-de-devour
"They wouldn’t just eat any white men that fell from the sky."
I find that sentence to be unintentionally hilarious, evidence of one of my character faults, no doubt.
As for that 79,000 figure, perhaps Althouse should have used servicemen rather than soldiers since the figure includes sailors, aircrewmen, pilots, merchant seamen, and many other categories besides combat infantrymen. A combat casualty's body being utterly obliterated by high explosive ordnance undoubtedly happened, but that must be among the very rare cases of unresolved missing in action, presumed dead.
Unaccounted for means just that. It doesn't mean dead, though after more 80 years the majority are now. It does not mean "killed, corpse missing". Sworn affidavits were often sufficient to generate an MIA, presumed dead notation on a service record, and a telegram to that effect to the next of kin. For example, after every bombing mission pilots and aircrews were subject to debriefing, and eyewitness testimony regarding losses was documented during those interviews.
Interrogator: Sgt. Jones, what happened to B-17 DF-K, tailnumber 232085? What did you see?
Witness: I saw the plane hit by flak and explode. It was just a ball of fire.
Interrogator: Did you see any parachutes?
Witness: No, sir.
If Sgt. Jones's answers were corroborated by other eyewitnesses, then everyone aboard the B-17 would be listed as killed in action, but if another eyewitness contradicted Jones, the crew might reported as missing in action. After the war graves registration teams spent years examining captured enemy documents and interviewing witnesses to resolve cases like my hypothetical above. The Germans kept meticulous records regarding Allied aircraft shot down over their territory which resolved thousands of questionable fates. This was not so in the PTO, unfortunately, shortly after Hirohito announced Japan's capitulation, the Japanese military destroyed hundreds of tons of documents, leaving postwar graves registration teams with little evidence of the fates of thousands of presumably captured Americans.
Unaccounted for can also include cases of desertion. In some units, particularly boot camp companies composed of draftees, nearly every morning's roll call would yield an AWOL report, and a few of those would devolve into a criminal charge of desertion. In the European theatre of operations over 50,000 American servicemen were charged with desertion, sometimes desertion under fire, a capital offense punishable by death. (Only one desertion case in WWII resulted in a firing squad, that of Edward Donald Slovik.) Typically desertion was punished by a fine, demotion, and a derogatory service record rather than imprisonment, which was how most of those desertions were resolved, but not all. Some remain unresolved and are recorded as unaccounted for.
My favorite part is when Joe spouts these inanities...and then repeats them a few more times over a week or so, and the media...never missing a beat just listens to it and, with full eyes staring at us and says, "That's just Joe being Joe."
Or KJP acting all ruffled when continuously asked about our President's mental state, shoving it aside as if we're asking her the price of slacks at Macy's. As if the most unimportant thing in the world was just asked of her. (I know, I know- no one on the White House staff shops at Macy's.
Also Joe being Joe. Showering with his daughter. Accepting millions from foreign nationals. Inviting millions of other foreign nationals into the country without security clearance, without any ID at all. Just like voting in blue states.
It's good to be a Democrat.
Do keep in mind that there was no DNA testing in WWII. If someone was blown up or half eaten by sharks or lit on fire and burned to the bone, then the remains were found, trying to identify the body may have been impossible. Furthermore, shipping the remains back to the States was not practical in many situations. Then keep in mind how many bodies are not found. Planes leaving a carrier or airbase and never returning for unknown reasons were not uncommon, and trying to find a downed plane in the middle of an ocean is exceedingly difficult even if it is still floating on the surface, even more so in a war zone.
My limited understanding of New Guinea is it is a very diverse place with many different tribes with many different customs. That said, the likelihood that someone would die in a plane crash in the middle of the ocean, then wash up on the coast or get fished out the water, then the tribe deciding this half rotted, salt water infested corpse was dinner seems just a touch unlikely. Even if it did happen, I doubt there would be any way to confirm it. It sounds like something a highly opinionated relative with no filter would declare at a family gathering to scare the children or just to be annoying.
'They wouldn't just eat any white men that fell from the sky': Outraged Papua New Guinea academics lash out at Biden's 'unacceptable' suggestion that cannibals ate his WW2 pilot uncle https://trib.al/ZiJMJ2P
“Oh great, now he's lost the Cannibal Academics community.”
—- Iowahawk
Probably not a good idea politically for Biden to insult cannibals. I don’t know how many of them we have in America but I think it is likely they would be Democrat voters.
Martha said...
Biden is a fabulist—he tells tall tales ALL THE TIME to make him and his family out to be bigger than life heroes.
Biden is a liar—he tells lies ALL THE TIME to make him and his family out to be bigger than life heroes.
Fixed it for you. Joe Biden is a chronic liar, which is a fairly common trait among lifetime politicians. He claims he graduated at the top of his law school class, when the truth is he was near the bottom. He claims his first wife was killed by a drunk driver, but that simply isn't true. He claimed his son died in combat but that isn't true, either. He plagiarized a British politician's speech when running for president in the 1980s, and when the truth came out, he withdrew his candidacy. That may be the only time he has been held accountable for his lies.
Leftists and the Media (but I repeat myself) say, "Oh, that's just Old Joe being Joe." They don't hold him accountable at all for his serial lies.
I for one am glad to see progs haven’t declared cannibalism a human right under the 14th Amendment yet. The descendants of those witch doctors brought in from Africa on British and Massachusetts Slavers have rights too.
"... wouldn’t just eat any white men that fell from the sky."
I saw this quote somewhere yesterday and assumed it was a very funny joke. It still makes me laugh when I think of it. Parody just can't keep up with the real world.
meanwhile actual cannibals roam the roads of haiti, and the regime doesn't care,
Saturday Night Live would have a field day with the cannibal story, but of course they won't.
Since it's been debunked by 51 intelligence officials (ha), the story should be fair game. Hoping Trump hires a humorist and "milks" this story throughout the campaign.
Didn't Native Americans indulge in eating other NAs that they had defeated in battle?
Also, wan't his uncle a mechanic, not a flight crew member?
Here's an overview of where Americans from WWII are interred overseas and the missing memorialized: From the American Battle Monuments Comission. Note that a majority of the missing are honored at the Honolulu Memorial and the Manila American Cemetery. Most of the missing were lost at seas.
The worst loss was the sinking of the Allied troopship HMT Rohna in the Mediterranean by a single German Heinkel HE-177 bomber. The loss was so catastrophic that it was classified until after the war: The Sinking of the HMT Rohna.
The most tragic were the Japanese "Hell Ships" where they loaded Allied prisoners of war and other inferior races of East Asia onto merchant ships. Many of these ships were unknowingly sunk by American subs and aircraft: The Japanese "Hell Ships" of World War II.
Young men take up tuba playing either for love of the instrument or because they are forced to do so. Unlike guitars, tubas don't enhance your chances with women. Women simply are not drawn to tuba players. There have been cool saxophone and clarinet players, but there are no cool tubistas. You'd probably have better luck with a French horn....Also, why are there no women tuba players? This is something that the Title IX crowd should take note of.
In Papua New Guinea, Nelson Rockefeller's son, Michael, was delighted to witness the locals building a bis pole in his honor. Once it was finished, they ate him. So goes one account.
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