२५ मार्च, २०२४

"In Finland, swinging your arms and other unnecessary sudden hand gestures are quite commonly interpreted as a sign of aggression, which should be avoided unless you want to get your ass kicked."

Writes someone in Finland in a Reddit discussion, "Do Europeans ever use their hand[s] to make 'Air Quotes' in a conversation, for example, to express sarcasm or a euphemism?"

Someone in Slovakia says "If you can't express sarcasm or a euphemism by you voice and tone, you shouldn't be allowed to do it. (I haven't seen it here, but maybe somebody does it.)"

An American says: "I did it in Italy once, and my little Italian cousins absolutely lost it laughing so hard, bc they didn't know why I was wiggling my fingers around (which I understand would look very, very strange if you don't know the meaning)." 

Someone in Italy answers: "We don't do it in Italy. Some people may know what it means because of American movies and TV series."

I know the TV series! It's "Friends":

३२ टिप्पण्या:

Danno म्हणाले...

I haven't seen air quotes used before and I don't want to know too much about them, but is it proper to put air quotes in scare quotes?

wendybar म्हणाले...

Let's send Pelosi over there. Her hands move faster than a whipper willows asshole!!! (an old saying from my FIL!, although he said that (jokingly) about his wife's mouth because she talks a lot.)

Enigma म्हणाले...

"Finland...ass kicked..."

I'll take that as metaphorical or actually about verbal abuse, for arctic people are not known for wasting energy on social violence. Except for Sweden's immigrant population, a few death metal church arsonists, and a bunch of dead Soviets.

Iceland's capital of Reykjavik has "rampant" sarcasm and greeting card violence. They have all sorts of countercultural building art and a Viking-like sense of humor. See the graffiti-covered punk rock museum across the street from the Prime Minister's office:

https://www.google.com/maps/place//@64.1472278,-21.9363058,19z?entry=ttu

Real violence, not so much.

typingtalker म्हणाले...

Speaking without gestures is akin to writing without punctuation.

Yes, I know ... a century of telephone. Which has been replaced by a present and future of telephonic devices having cameras and screens for which we happily pay a premium.

Old and slow म्हणाले...

That was a pretty funny clip. I don't remember being a big fan of Friends, but that was good. In my family, air-quotes are only used self-mockingly. Does anyone use them earnestly?

Captain BillieBob म्हणाले...

"oops"
I laughed out loud

gilbar म्हणाले...

thank you for the friends clip.. that was my first laugh of the day
.. i mean: "thank you" : )

Howard म्हणाले...

This is why we can't have nice things.

Howard म्हणाले...

Remember that Seinfield episode where that former SNL girl didn't swing her arms? That's pretty freaky. Molly Shannon in "The Summer of George"

koppa म्हणाले...

No, you will not ”get your ass kicked” here in Finland if you gestigulate (?) with your arms. You might be considered a bit weird - or a foreigner though. These stereotypies … we are not drunken all the time either, and there are no polar bears in Finland. Also, who ever says that Finns are the happiest lot in the world needs to reconsider her (sic) research methods …

Mr. Forward म्हणाले...

Real air quotes would be whispering, howling, cracking or thunderous.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

I don't really use my hands and arms when talking.

And Danno wins the internet for today, even though it is still early morning.

Wince म्हणाले...

I... "eat my own dandruff"...

I don't... "clean the area between my crotch and legs."

Hey Skipper म्हणाले...

@koppa: “Also, who ever says that Finns are the happiest lot in the world needs to reconsider her (sic) research methods.”

While noting that the Finnish suicide rate is right next to the US’s.

rehajm म्हणाले...

Global movie goers know it, too. "LAY-ZUR"...

Ice Nine म्हणाले...

Get your ass kicked in Finland because of air quotes? Yeah, I don't think so. Finns are the most phlegmatic people you are likely to ever meet.

Tom T. म्हणाले...

Most Europeans don't even use quotation marks as we know them. To mark a quote, they use what we would call the greater-than and less-than marks.

Narayanan म्हणाले...

I was and am still confused when air quotes are used - and stare agape at speaker!

PM म्हणाले...

As for Finnish ass-kicking: Sisu.

Interested Bystander म्हणाले...

Well, to be fair, Joey Tribiani is second generation Italian. :0)

stlcdr म्हणाले...

File this under "everything Americans do is 'bad', European good".

Rocco म्हणाले...

I talk with my hands. And I don’t use air quotes, except in rare cases and in a jovial manner.

Rocco म्हणाले...

Tom T. said...
“Most Europeans don't even use quotation marks as we know them.”

And then there’s the way they punctuate numbers.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Don't even get me started on that menace Raquel Welch...

Static Ping म्हणाले...

Are you sure the TV show is not Knight Rider? A bit dated but it has the Hoff. Hoff is a demigod in Europe.

Assistant Village Idiot म्हणाले...

I think making the air-quotes sign is silly, but nowhere near as silly as the very tolerant and multicultural Europeans complaining about a popular American communication custom that they dislike for puzzling reasons. Get over it. Go back to making fun of the disabled, the Jews, and the gypsies, okay? Father some children and get back to me about your adulthood, willja?

Big Mike म्हणाले...

"In Finland, swinging your arms and other unnecessary sudden hand gestures are quite commonly interpreted as a sign of aggression, which should be avoided unless you want to get your ass kicked."

I’d pay good money to watch a Finn stuck in room with a bunch of Italians arguing.

Howard म्हणाले...

Blogger Ice Nine said...
......Finns are the most phlegmatic people you are likely to ever meet.


Haven't they heard of Mucinex?

Rusty म्हणाले...

koppa said...
Best road rally racers in da world!
Plus you got that thing where the car can only cost so much and the course is half paved and half dirt and anybody can enter. It's just a lot of fun to watch.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

A local joke is "How do you get a Puerto Rican to shut up?"

"Make them put their hands in their pockets.

And it has to do more with Spanish language. People who move their hands a lot while speaking Spanish, tend to to gesture anywhere near as much when they are speaking English.

John Henry

Mr. Majestyk म्हणाले...

Rocco said: "And then there’s the way they [Europeans] punctuate numbers."

The only thing worse than they way Europeans punctuate numbers is Americans who ape the European way, thinking it makes them look sophisticated.

SteveWe म्हणाले...

Air Quotes are whimpy gestures of the Left.