२४ जानेवारी, २०२४

"But a Smiths song — 'Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want' — was played at a Trump rally in Rapid City, South Dakota on Tuesday..."

"... and at other Trump rallies recently, including in Laconia, New Hampshire on Monday. That’s angered one of the song’s authors, Johnny Marr.... 'Ahh…right…OK. I never in a million years would’ve thought this could come to pass. Consider this shit shut right down right now.... It’s not yet known what Morrissey — who co-founded The Smiths with Marr and who has veered sharply to the right since the end of the band — thinks about Trump using his music. Morrissey’s increasingly right-ward pronouncements have caused many a Smiths fan to recoil in horror...." (Politico).

Is it possible that the "increasingly right-ward" Morrissey might like Trump? Well, there's this from a year ago (in Page Six):
[The German newspaper] Der Spiegel had asked the singer: “If there was a button, and if you press it [Trump] drops dead, would you press it or not?” “I would for the safety of the human race,” Morrissey answered. “It’s nothing to do with my personal opinion of his face or his family, but in the interest of the human race, I would, yes.”
Good times for a change/See, the luck I've had can make a good man turn bad....

३० टिप्पण्या:

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

If the Trump campaign paid for the rights, tough shit. Cry harder.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

See, the luck I've had can make a good man turn bad....

"Nearly 50% of elites believe the U.S. provides 'too much individual freedom'..."

Hassayamper म्हणाले...

That bastard Trump is playing my music, how dare he! It’s spelled “M-O-R-R-I-S-S-E-Y”, two R’s and two S’s. Available on Spotify and iTunes….

It’s the new “Banned in Boston”.

Enigma म्हणाले...

Morrissey has been accused of being right-wing for a very long time (e.g., "Bengali in Platforms", "The National Front Disco", etc.), and also wrote "Margaret [Thatcher] on the Guillotine." I say that he's always ironic, unique, and idiosyncratic, and very hard to pigeonhole. He antagonizes the left in the same way that (left-leaning) JK Rowling does.

E.g.:

https://inews.co.uk/culture/morrisseys-most-controversial-quotes-145228

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/tours/exclusive-morrissey-on-donald-trump-miley-cyrus-prince-harry-and-unreleased-smiths-material/news-story/2932f6891ea2abe238baef5a4edeee2e

Consider that the 1970s Punk icon of the Sex Pistols, Johnny Rotten, is now a Trump and Brexit supporter:

https://www.newsweek.com/john-lydon-trump-support-sex-pistols-fans-make-america-great-again-t-shirt-johnny-rotten-1534584

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/johnny-rotten-trump-us-election-trump-sex-b1009364.html

People become more conservative as they age, and definitions of left vs. right change too.

Leland म्हणाले...

So Der Speigel actually asked a question about whether someone would, if given the opportunity, kill Trump? And that is considered acceptable for normal Q&A? You really can't hate the news media enough.

Butkus51 म्हणाले...

I wonder what the bagger at Aldi thinks.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

Being practical and wanting solutions, wanting a functioning society where people are safe to pursue their dreams is right-wing.

Who cares if Marr doesn't want Trump playing his music? Marr has no say. He took the benefits of our regime of intellectual property protection, he will take the rest as well.

actual items म्हणाले...

Though I’m a Smiths fan, I always preferred Dream Academy’s cover version. Feels dreamier and more introspective, just a better vibe for this particular song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En1IgPz1jfk&ab_channel=TheDreamAcademy

It came out just a year after the original. A year after that, an instrumental version of the cover was used in the art museum scene in Ferris Bueller’s Day off. Perfect vibe for Cameron staring at the painting, “A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFY9ace2t4s&ab_channel=AleCloppet

tim maguire म्हणाले...

Enigma said...People become more conservative as they age, and definitions of left vs. right change too.

They didn't become more conservative as they aged. Caring about the working class became right wing as they aged.

Jamie म्हणाले...

So Der Speigel actually asked a question about whether someone would, if given the opportunity, kill Trump? And that is considered acceptable for normal Q&A?

Just a moment of blissful reverie...

mezzrow म्हणाले...

I wonder what the bagger at Aldi thinks.

Is this a study in self-reflection? Here's a quarter, you'll need it. You'll see what I mean. Now go to Aldi. I recommend the chocolates.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"So Der Speigel actually asked a question about whether someone would, if given the opportunity, kill Trump?"

It would be more acceptable to hand him a list of names and have him point to the one he would have killed.

Dogma and Pony Show म्हणाले...

Such a dreadful band.

Caroline म्हणाले...

Could there be any behavior more transgressive than celebrity trump support? Courageous and Brave!

Wince म्हणाले...

Bigmouth Strikes Again

Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking
When I said I'd like to smash every tooth
In your head

Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking
When I said by rights you should be
Bludgeoned in your bed

And now I know how Joan of Arc felt
Now I know how Joan of Arc felt
As the flames rose to her Roman nose
And her walkman started to melt

Bigmouth
Bigmouth
Bigmouth strikes again

And I've got no right to take my place
To the Human race

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

I love that Morrissey isn't a hivemind.

break free!

Big Mike म्हणाले...

They didn't become more conservative as they aged. Caring about the working class became right wing as they aged.

+ 1

Sebastian म्हणाले...

Asking about killing Trump: totally normal, for people who complain about Trump and Trumpists breaking norms.

"in the interest of the human race, I would, yes"

As we know, for progs the desire to kill signals virtue. But what does the statement even mean? Besides getting in progs' way, what did Trump actually do that endangered "the human race"?

Even on Covid, he played along with Faucism. Yes, that did harm a portion of "the human race," but I guess that's not what his enemies mean.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

So Morrissey wanted Trump dead - and that still isn't good enough for the incel they/them/ abortion on demand full term dead baby porn in the grade school library open border inflation millions of illegal entrants white left hack-D media Chi Com Castro Lenin Stalin Mao Trudeau Newsome Crook Biden NBC Obey Obey Obey Obedient left? sprinkled with ding bat Kamala sauce?

BG म्हणाले...

I wonder what the bagger at Aldi thinks.

Mezzrow,
I took this as sarcasm. As in, “I don’t care.”

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Walking away from the corrupt left does not make anyone "right wing" -

(unless you are a protectionist leftist deeply worried that anyone decide to leave the plantation of free will.)

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Both the left and right use Trump as the litmus test.

Do you love him?... you must! ...scream his fans...

Do you hate him?... you must! ... scream the leftist hivemind haters.

boring.

Iman म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
rehajm म्हणाले...

Clearly this Smiths doosh has never been exposed to any of the tales of the 'button in the box'. So, he pushes the button. Next, the mystery man who comes and collects it tells him they're going to reset it and send it to a guy that thinks The Smiths are 'derivative'...

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...

"Morrissey’s increasingly right-ward pronouncements have caused many a Smiths fan to recoil in horror...." (Politico)."

That's a great '80's-themed joke right there. Like something from Spy magazine in it's heyday.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

I know nothing about music copyrights, but I was under the impression that if you paid the royalties you could use the music no matter what the artist thinks.

And in many bands, there are often more than one writer.

John Marzan म्हणाले...

The Smiths frontman Morrissey has not yet spoken out against the use of the song. Though the singer has made headlines for his support of Brexit and anti-immigrant groups, he has previously criticized Trump and said in a 2017 interview with German outlet Der Spiegel that if he could push a button to kill him, he would do it “for the safety of the human race.” He later retracted the statement.

Craig Mc म्हणाले...

Mozz is a grumpy old man, running higher on the misanthropic scale than Larry David. I'm confident he'd push the button for any politician. Given his opinion of what's happening in Ireland, I think there'd be others in front of the queue before Trump.

mikee म्हणाले...

I see the serious campaigning has not yet started, as we are still discussing the music used at rallies rather than how, or why, to win this election. Wake me up when someone asks or answers a serious question about, well, anything.