२७ नोव्हेंबर, २०२३

"Try 'racial justice.'"

I wanted to search for an article at Vanity Fair, and the search box looked like this:


See the faint print in the box?

I thought it was funny, this idea to just "try" racial justice. The commitment to racial justice is obligatory, not something merely to "try."

This is the same problem I have with the song "Try a Little Tenderness." Just try... and if it doesn't work out for you, try something else? As Otis Redding sang the song — the one where the dress is "shaggy," rather than "shabby" — the tenderness you were supposed to try was "to rub her gentle" and "don't bruise her." And after you've tried that, what? 

In the old days of prominent Alka-Seltzer ads, the catchphrase was "Try it, you'll like it":


"Try it" was a con, and in the end, you would not like it (and you'd need Alka-Seltzer).

But anyway... what I was looking for was that article about French bulldogs. Ah, here it is: "The French Bulldog Revolution: A Culture War Over America’s Most Popular Dog." Did you know Frenchies had ousted Labs as the most popular dog?

Oddly enough, this article is about racial justice! Subtitle: "Frenchies are beloved for their pint-size adorability, but a human fight is brewing over—yes—what colors they should be."

From the text:
[T]he “inclusive” breeders... believe that “colored dogs,” as non–brindle/fawn/white dogs are known, including the popular blue, have a place in the French bulldog community....

Around 2008, the [French Bull Dog Club of America] began its “No Fad Colors” campaign. That same year, Terry Huntley began breeding French bulldogs.... He’s owned and bred blue dogs. But for Huntley, who is Black, he grasped that the fissure in the Frenchie community “is not the color of the dogs, it’s the color of the people.”
Determined to win titles for his dogs, Huntley said he began to hire handlers who were white and seen as popular with judges to present his dogs in the ring. “It’s pretty much giving your dog to a person and saying, ‘Hey, take this dog in for me.’ ” 
He said the same dogs he had shown were now getting ribbons from judges when they competed with a white handler. “Just because they’re a popular person and you hope that their popularity rubs off on your dog and you get to win. Sometimes, it’s not about who you are, it’s about who you can pay to champion your dog out.”...

ADDED: And then there's the widespread idea that dog breeding in general reflects ideas that correspond to racism among humans. From an NPR podcast last year:

Any time someone publishes a paper on dog breeds and behavior and different predispositions, they inevitably get questions about race. Like, isn't this something that explains, like, why so-and-so people of this race or ethnicity are more prone to this or behave like this.... There is a wonderful review that I would highly recommend anyone who's interested in this question check out. It's called "Human Races Are Not Like Dog Breeds: Refuting A Racist Analogy".... We have to consider that race is so complex. There are cultural dimensions. There is so much else going on. And I will also point out that the Victorians sort of manifested this idea of breed. And one of the ideals they really held it to was purity - keeping bloodlines pure. And we know, from dogs and humans, how disastrous that can be. And we know that a lot of dog breeds today have health problems because of rampant inbreeding.... Ultimately, this obsession with purity, in both species, has been to the detriment of everyone involved....

७२ टिप्पण्या:

DavidD म्हणाले...

It’s appropriate that it has “racial justice” in quotes, since there’s no such thing, anyway, but instead only justice and not-justice.

Will Cate म्हणाले...

My cousin and his wife have a French Bulldog, which I just met a couple of weeks ago. She grunts like a pig whenever receiving attention. I'm a big-dog guy myself, and after 24 hours I decided it was quite like having a little pet pig. I'll pass....

NKP म्हणाले...

Don't know what you were searching for but there is NO racial justice. There is just race.

If I'm wrong, please give me the definition of racial justice. What, if anything, has America's First Half-Black president had to say about "racial justice".

tcrosse म्हणाले...

Dean Martin used to sing
"She may get weary, women do get weary, wearing the same shabby dress. If she gets weary, buy her another shabby dress"

Aggie म्हणाले...

I had a neighbor down the street that had a couple of them, kept getting out and showing up here to torment my cats, who spend the days outside, and my dogs, who stood at the windows barking at bulldogs.

Generally I stay away from flat-face dogs because of their tendency to slobber, and because of their always-incipient pulmonary health problems. They've been bred to the extreme to be flat-faced, just like Irish Setters have been bred to have narrow heads, with no room left for brains.

I learned from my neighbors that Frenchies can't breed naturally, and have to be artificially-inseminated to get pregnant. So: My prediction is, they won't last as the #1 American breed, because they are simply too expensive and impractical - a passing, high-maintenance fad. It's ironic, because Labs are pretty much unfazed by pretty much everything, by comparison, which I feel is one of the secrets of their success. My B.I.L., a Lab owner/lover, has told me that Labs were originally bred to help fishermen pull in their nets, in Labrador.

Justabill म्हणाले...

Justice doesn’t need modifiers, with the possible exception of “for all.”

Dog shows are fixed? I’m shocked.

I feel sorry for breeds like the French Bulldog. Being inbred out of existence.

Enigma म्हणाले...

For several years the top Google Image search results for both George W. Bush and Michelle Obama were manipulated to add monkey ears and monkey mouths. The Obama one was 'racist' while the Bush one was 'try George W. Bush'?

Hmmm?

Temujin म्हणाले...

I'll not stop until we have equity in the dog shows.

By the way, my Lucas Terrier is not even acknowledged by the Royal Kennel Club or the American Kennel Club as a legitimate breed. This was done by decree by the man who created the Lucas (through breeding a specific line of Sealyham Terriers with Norfolk Terriers). The story is that the original breeders, Sir Jocelyn Lucas and his partner the Hon. Enid Plummer did not want their dogs affiliated with the RKC. And so...while a breed standard was created, they are not officially recognized by the RKC or AKC. If you see a posting for a 'Sporting Lucas Terrier' it's not the breed standard.

My dog is breed perfect, which is to say, she's a cross between a couple of breeds (what we used to call a mutt), but her lineage can be traced to specific lines of the original Lucases. We love the dog, but to me this is nothing more than rebranding of a mutt, as are most of the currently known breeds. Honestly, the Lucas Terriers were specifically bred to hunt and burrow for critters. She's all terrier in that respect. She's a great dog and cares nothing about titles or breeds. Just food and watching out for UPS delivery guys.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

There’s only Justice and Injustice. Any modifier preceding the word Justice, whether Social or Racial or whatever, results in a perversion of Justice: an Injustice. Full stop.

Fritz म्हणाले...

Justice modified is not justice.

gilbar म्हणाले...

If we Did "try racial justice", where would will find an ethical prosecutor?
I'm thinking that in an actually ethical court; if we were to "try racial justice", we'd find It guilty

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

'As Otis Redding sang the song — the one where the dress is "shaggy," rather than "shabby" — the tenderness you were supposed to try was "to rub her gentle" and "don't bruise her." And after you've tried that, what?'

Women sometimes ask "What would you really like to do?" when men think that's what they were doing all along.

'In the old days of prominent Alka-Seltzer ads, the catchphrase was "Try it, you'll like it"..."Try it" was a con, and in the end, you would not like it (and you'd need Alka-Seltzer).'

"Try it, you'll like it. Try it, you'll like it." "Well I tried it, I tried it, and it wasn't shit." "I think I'm gonna get sick,..."

Breezy म्हणाले...

We have a brown lab and a black lab. We’re a diverse family, hence racially justified enough already. It’s all relative.

Captain BillieBob म्हणाले...

"Do or do not. There is no try" Quoted by some really old guy, being, thing.
We have two Golden-doodles. Best dogs ever.

Dagwood म्हणाले...

Are you on drugs?

Scotty, beam me up... म्हणाले...

French Bulldogs are just Pug wannabes, missing the curly tails and floppy ears of pugs. Heck, my pug does a great Frenchie impression…

The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

DavidD said there's "only justice" while Colonel Mustard said "there is just race." after Ann said "The commitment to racial justice is obligatory,..."

If you were black - and skeptical of American white's commitment to either race or justice - you'd find this humorous.

Cappy म्हणाले...

Try it. If it does not work, then we have other means!

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

Try just ice.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

Then I tried it. Thought I was gonna die.
That's the coda to the Alka-Seltzer commercial as I recall. Seems apt for Racial Justice too.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

The commitment to racial justice is obligatory

No it isn't. The commitment to equal justice under the law is obligatory. Anything else is agenda-driven in justice. The fantasy that somehow past wrongs can be set right by mistreating people in the present is evil, and it is a recipe for destroying the system of checks and balances we have. For every past harm that has been recognized, America and individual Americans have taken steps to rectify, much more so than any other advanced representative government. Sunlight is the best disinfectant, they say, but the act of exposing wrongdoing is the only way to address inequitable treatment and collective guilt is anathema to our deliberative system of equal justice under the law.

No one said it is a perfect system. It's just better than any alternative.

DavidD म्हणाले...

There is only one race—the human race—and there is only one justice.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Vanity Fair is NBC on print. Far left Obedience - glossy.

James K म्हणाले...

As with "ought" in the earlier post, "try" in these examples is ambiguous. "Try 'racial justice'" obviously means "try searching the term and see what you get," not "try practicing it." As for "try a little tenderness," I think "try" is a polite way of saying "This is what you should be doing," of giving advice. Like when my wife is driving on the highway in the left lane and cars are passing her on the right, and I say, "Try to stay in the right lane unless you're passing someone." A bit more gentle than "Get in the right lane!"

Ice Nine म्हणाले...

I've never understood people wanting butt ugly dogs - well, especially porcine bulldogs like this one. Most especially, that frightfully homely, long-snouted type like Patton had. What is it that draws people to such creatures?

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"My prediction is, they won't last as the #1 American breed, because they are simply too expensive and impractical...."

They might. A lot of people are going with "rescue" dogs now and not buying from breeders at all. But what sort of person wants a breed? Maybe a lot of women who want something cute, something that's a good fashion accessory, something that's associated with a celebrity they love. That's going to get you to the Frenchie, not the Lab.

I'm sure many people buy Labs from breeders because they think it's going to get them the temperament they want or because they've had Labs in the past and feel connected to the breed.

But a lot of the kind of people who in the old days would pick a Lab are going for Labradoodles. They think they are getting the Lab temperament but with more cuteness.

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

Oh, FFS. You're a grammar demon, you know that verb doesn't refer to taking up a cause.

I practice "racial justice" every time I judge someone of one race rioting or practicing mob theft exactly the same as I would someone of any other race.

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

The Crack Emcee:
If you were black - and skeptical of American white's commitment to either race or justice - you'd find this humorous.

So close to how others find you.

James K म्हणाले...

"But a lot of the kind of people who in the old days would pick a Lab are going for Labradoodles. They think they are getting the Lab temperament but with more cuteness."

And/or they're hoping for less shedding, more brains (poodles are supposed to be among the more intelligent breeds).

In general, many people want to know what they are getting in a dog. Breeds come with known characteristics (good and bad). A rescue dog is more of a roll of the dice. I think there's an element of that in people who are hesitant to adopt a baby.

Bonkti म्हणाले...

Be honest here.

Rather than a feckless proposal, Redding builds to one of pop music's great imperatives and crescedoes:

You've got to hold her, squeeze her, never leave her/
You've got to try, try try/
A little tenderness.

Drago म्हणाले...

The Crack Emcee: "If you were black - and skeptical of American white's commitment to either race or justice - you'd find this humorous."

Oligoncella: "So close to how others find you."

You havent seen anything yet! Crack the buffoon has gone Full Hamas Love Baby! with his re-vomiting up the claims the hostages love their Hamas/ISIS captors because of how "well" they were treated!

LOL

Crack has finally found a crew worthy of his emotional and passionate buy-in: Islamic-Supremacist 7th Century-Death-Cultists whose stated goal is the murder of every Jew in the world!

Drago म्हणाले...

If I had to guess, my supposition would be that Hamas Fanboy Crack simply can't help himself but identify with the murderers of "whiteys" in the kibbutzim.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Its amazing how back in the old days everyone watched the same tV programs and saw the same commericials and people would end up using them as catchphrases. Try it, you'll like it. I can't believe I ate the whole thing. Go for the gusto. For all you do, this bud's for you. "Where's the beef?" ended up being used in a POTUS campaign.

Carol burnett and SNL used to satrize commericals. The advertising Biz tried to recreate this by making Superbowl "Incredible commerical sunday" - but the buzz doesn't last more than a few days.

I'm trying to think of a TV commerical in the last 30 years thats stayed with me, and cant think of one. But I've actually gone back and listened to some of the "Go for the Gusto" beer commericial on Youtube, becuase they were so well done.

rcocean म्हणाले...

There used to be a Merrill Lynch commerical where its a crowd and everyone's talking and then they all stop and strain to hear one guy in the crowd who's talking to Merrill Lynch. And then the catchphrase: "when ML talks, people listen". That might have been from the 90s, so there ONE commericial from the last 30 years that I remember.

Breezy म्हणाले...

People go for labradoodles because they don’t shed. As a warning, in my experience around those doodles among our friends, they have a lot more energy to run off every day than our labs do. YMMV.

Purebred labs are generally not found in rescue orgs, but we lucked out and found our chocolate that way.

DavidD म्हणाले...

rcocean said...
Its amazing how back in the old days everyone watched the same tV programs and saw the same commericials and people would end up using them as catchphrases.

Him: “It’s stuck, Helen.”
Her: “It’s cold again, too.”

Chef Boyardee pizza in a box.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"Are you on drugs?"

"Oh, FFS. You're a grammar demon..."

People who don't get me.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

"Try just ice."

Keeps the bruising down.

Bill Clinton tried a little tenderness on Juanita Broaddrick, but it didn't work....

DavidD म्हणाले...

rcocean said...
There used to be a Merrill Lynch commerical where its a crowd and everyone's talking and then they all stop and strain to hear one guy in the crowd who's talking to Merrill Lynch.

I think that might’ve been E.F.Hutton….

Kevin म्हणाले...

I thought it was funny, this idea to just "try" racial justice.

Maybe they should set up a little table at Whole Foods, with a white lady to glare at you if you just walk past.

There can even be special coupons if you purchase the larger, take-home, size.

Iman म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Kevin म्हणाले...

It is almost ironic that, while Israel is incarcerating Palestinian children for throwing stones, at the same time, the only lesson that it teaches the Palestinians is, the only way to actually release Palestinian prisoners, is through such heinous crimes as the one Hamas carried out on Oct. 7.

I don't think Bibi would have done this on his own.

This is Biden and Blinken causing another mess on aisle 7 of the Middle East Mart.

Iman म्हणाले...

/sarc

rcocean म्हणाले...

Yeah, David, you're right. It was E.F. hutton. And it was NOT in the 90s, it was in the late 70s and early 80s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tG-g-TfBww

OK, so I still can't remember a commercial from the last 30 years!

rcocean म्हणाले...

I've never understood people wanting butt ugly dogs

Same here. Although are English Bulldogs ugly? They're sorta cute, for some reason. But on the whole, we've always had labs. And proud of it. Although, she'd probably want a burgler to give her a pat on the head, and help him haul our goods away.

rcocean म्हणाले...

Interesting that Otis Redding died in the Lake that Althouse often shows us. Plane crash on his way to Madison.

So many of those 50s 60s Rock and Rollers and R&B singers died young. Tragic.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Liberal fascists insert race everywhere...it's a virus...they're the fucking Borg.

These are the same people with 'In this house...' signs posted in the front yards of their really expensive houses in their ultra-white neighborhoods (cough, Berkeley, Palo Alto, Mill Valley).

Liberalism and communism need to be wiped out, from the river to the sea.

NKP म्हणाले...

You've got to hold her, squeeze her, never leave her/
You've got to try, try try/
A little tenderness.


What Bonkti said... esp. live performance at Monterey.

traditionalguy म्हणाले...

Try UGA bulldogs. They are better trained.

Iman म्हणाले...

“Mikey, er, Michelle likes it!”

n.n म्हणाले...

Diversity, Inequity, Exclusion. Social jstice, whether colored or otherwise, is selective.

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

Ann Althouse:
People who don't get me.

I got it, I just believe The commitment to racial justice is obligatory, not something merely to "try." was your actual message (doing a little Althouseian mind-reading).

n.n म्हणाले...

Reparations for the Posterity of Union soldiers, abolitionists, and everyone else injured by slavery, diversity, and some, select [black] lives matter.

n.n म्हणाले...

Liberalism and communism need to be wiped out, from the river to the sea.

Liberalism is a philosophy of divergence. Americans are classical liberals tempered by Judeo-Christian religion. Communism is of the democratic/dictatorial vein, led by elites pursuing capital and control. Diversity is a color judgment, generally, class bigotry. #HateLovesAbortion

Oligonicella म्हणाले...

rcocean:
So many of those 50s 60s Rock and Rollers and R&B singers died young. Tragic.

I agree on the plane/car crashes and such. Those who pass out and aspirate their own vomit and so forth? Tough shit, no sympathy.

NKP म्हणाले...

In general, many people want to know what they are getting in a dog. Breeds come with known characteristics (good and bad). A rescue dog is more of a roll of the dice. I think there's an element of that in people who are hesitant to adopt a baby.

You get better odds with a "breed" but it's still a crap shoot. We're a three-generation Lab family. Mostly female. Black, brown and yellow. LOTs of 'diversity'.

The Queen Mum (Zephyr) was as perfect and beloved as a four-legged family member could be. From Home Breeder. Cheap. Actually won a case in small claims court for me. Others, from boxes at supermarkets to very expensive professional breeders have been playful, moody, genius, psycho, sneaky, hyper, lazy, fetch-it-crazy, too-sophisticated-to-fetch, licky, snappy, etc.

If interested in a rescue, I would suggest a 'foster' dog. In a few weeks you will know. If it's the wrong pick, better to try again than make a harder choice later on.

NKP म्हणाले...

If you were black - and skeptical of American white's commitment to either race or justice - you'd find this humorous.

I'n not black so why don't you explain why it's humorous. At face value, it just seems like a somewhat slanderous remark about white people.

I wonder how American blacks' commitment to race or justice differs from that of whites' (in the context of 'racial justice', of course).

n.n म्हणाले...

The Vanity in the subliminal messaging indicates that racial justice is not justice but misinformation, disinformation and diversitist (e.g. racist).

Jupiter म्हणाले...

The commitment to racial justice is obligatory, not something merely to "try."

Oh, really? We just let a bunch of half-educated chimpanzees spin the knobs of the Racial Justice machine, and whatever it spits out, that's "obligatory"? What if the little wheels go round and round, and the sentence for your race comes out "Death"? Maybe you are content to have a nice little going-away party with a few of your ex-students, and then drink the hemlock. Some of us are not quite as reconciled as you are to the necessity of our racial extinction. Some of us think your Racial Justice machine needs a few whacks with the fine-adjustment crowbar.

Iman म्हणाले...

“What Bonkti said... esp. live performance at Monterey.”

The live performance that really impressed me was Ravi Shankar and his fellow performers. Still impressed with every viewing.

rcocean म्हणाले...

I didn't realize there were two lakes. Thanks for the info.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Racial Justice in South Africa.

RigelDog म्हणाले...

All of my dogs have been big black males and I deliberately sought out that combination. Hmmm...

donald म्हणाले...

How bout them Georgia Bulldogs!

Original Mike म्हणाले...

There are four lakes.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Map of Dane County, Madison, Wisconsin and the Four Lakes

Oso Negro म्हणाले...

Good to know that the NPR podcast totally refutes the idea of selective breeding. Or at least for humans. Cattle, or other animals, may be selectively bred for particular characteristics, but among humans, it's best that we are all mongrels. No explanation needed. It's just best. All right thinking people agree. Don't you?

Oso Negro म्हणाले...

Good to know that the NPR podcast totally refutes the idea of selective breeding. Or at least for humans. Cattle, or other animals, may be selectively bred for particular characteristics, but among humans, it's best that we are all mongrels. No explanation needed. It's just best. All right thinking people agree. Don't you?

Oso Negro म्हणाले...

If diversity is good, and I am sure NPR would agree, then why would we want to merge all races into one with miscegenation?

n.n म्हणाले...

Racial Justice in South Africa

Is it still the rape... rape-rape capital of the world? Or has Norway, perhaps Britain, progressed to meet them?

A native genocide, assassination, Xhosa vs Zulu tribal conflict with collateral damage, and a uniquely progressive constitution that establishes diversity, redistributive change, and human rites as the principles underlying their national character.

Josephbleau म्हणाले...

In the old days of prominent Alka-Seltzer ads, the catchphrase was "Try it, you'll like it"..."

Momma Mia, thats a spicia meataballa. (Alka seltzer Commercial)

n.n म्हणाले...

Vanity affair.