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"I knew that if they are hungry, they are angry.... I told him I had to inject insulin, trying to distract them from the fact I have children who are police officers … I offered them drinks: Coke Zero, water."
Said Rachel Edri, quoted in "Chilling new image shows terrorist with Israeli woman who cooked for them to escape hostage nightmare" (NY Post).
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OK. when do we get the stories about Arabs in Gaza dying because Israel has cut off food, water, and electricity? Or dropping 4,000 tons of bombs on them? Or stories about Brave arab women coping with being homeless or having relatives without needed medical care?
I'm glad this Jewish women survivied by cooking for her captor, but lets quit the one-sided approach of ignoring arab suffering and obsessing about Israeli suffering.
@rocean said: "I'm glad this Jewish women survivied by cooking for her captor, but lets quit the one-sided approach of ignoring arab suffering and obsessing about Israeli suffering."
Yes, because the intentional infliction of suffering on innocent civilians equates to the accidental collateral damage caused by the actions of those who intentionally inflicted the suffering--and are indeed inflicting suffering on the own people; suffering that would stop in a millisecond if Hamas gives up and releases the hostages.
We get it rcocean, you hate the damn Jews.
the mission of hamas is to annihilate israel, if that isn't clear to you, yet, they derive their water from israel, because they screwed up their aquifer, the problem is israel left hamas standing in 21,
As soon as I saw "Coke Zero" I knew all was lost.
rcocean said...
OK. when do we get the stories about Arabs in Gaza dying because Israel has cut off food, water, and electricity?
When the residents of Gaza do not live under constant threat of death by Hamas for describing the abject conditions and maladministration they are forced to live under by Hamas?
The problem, rcocean, is that stories of "Israeli suffering" can be taken as accurate (at least because the international media will do just about anything to avoid telling those stories without an accompanying picture of dead Palestinian children), whereas stories of "Arab suffering" regularly appear to involve stock photos, pictures from years ago, wild exaggerations of casualties... and of course willful ignoring of the fact that Hamas hides behind its own women and children and wounded and vulnerable, not because it has to militarily, but because it wants the "blood on Israeli hands" stories.
If this grandmother were an IDF member who enticed the terrorists into an ambush, the moral equivalent might be there. Maybe.
Of course Palestinians are suffering. I'm sure they're suffering much more than Israelis right now. So rise up, Palestinian street, and force your leaders to free the hostages so the water and power provided by the people your leaders' charter has sworn to wipe off the face of the earth will get turned back on.
rcocean, Arabs, whether in Gaza or Arabia, along with all other Muslims, suffer because of Islam, not because of Israel. It's said many times, and should be repeated until the world learns: no matter when in time, no matter where in the world, find Muslims, find trouble.
Islam is the issue
The fact is that no one in the USA media cared about the suffereing of the Arabs in Gaza or the West bank before the Attack. I follow the news and its seems there's been some "incident" every month for Years. Usually its some IDF soldier killing some arab because he did this or that. Or its Israel bulldozing someone's home because they were family of some terrorist. Or it was a clash in the West bank because Israel wont stop building illegal settlements.
This sort of one sided approach reminds me of News media's approach to crime back in the early 90s. A thousand people got murdered every year in NYC and God knows how many rapes. but almost no coverage from the MSM. Then Some senators niece was shot outside her house, and a stockbroker got raped in Central Park, and Newsweek and Time suddenly had covers "Is crime out of control?". Blacks/browns getting killed/raped not a story. Well-to-do White people that's a story.
Same with israel. Arab babies killed? Who cares. Israeli babies killed? Massive news coverage.
Old and slow said...
"We get it rcocean, you hate the damn Jews."
Why don't you guys stop with that? It's the dumbest conclusion, you could come to, about a contentious issue. Nobody has to hate the Jews to dislike what Israel is doing. Hell, even Jews don't like what Israel is doing.
gspencer said...
"Islam is the issue"
Actually, it doesn't appear to be, in this instance. Normally, that would be the usual go-to excuse, but not this time. This time, it's a pretty clear-cut case of Zionists acting badly.
Poor rcocean. If only Hitler had succeeded in murdering all of the Jews, he would be the happiest person on earth.
"Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
Old and slow said...
"We get it rcocean, you hate the damn Jews."
Why don't you guys stop with that? It's the dumbest conclusion, you could come to, about a contentious issue. Nobody has to hate the Jews to dislike what Israel is doing. Hell, even Jews don't like what Israel is doing."
How dare the Jews defend themselves from being slaughtered in the most horrific way. Why can't they just go meekly to their deaths like during the Holocaust?
Curiously, the Arabs in Yemen are suffering far more than the Gazans, yet they get no ink in the west at all. Why is that?
Jim Gust said...
"Curiously, the Arabs in Yemen are suffering far more than the Gazans, yet they get no ink in the west at all. Why is that?"
Why indeed? Crack? Rcocean? The only Arabs anyone gives a shit about are the ones slaughtering Jews. Funny that.
Blacks/browns getting killed/raped not a story. Well-to-do White people that's a story.
Same with israel. Arab babies killed? Who cares. Israeli babies killed? Massive news coverage.
I didn't want to go here, but... you do recognize the difference, don't you? You're right that the world's or the nation's attention switches on when those who commit far fewer crimes or those who try not to harm civilians are attacked, raped, killed. The non-attention-getting attacks, rapes, and murders are the "business as usual" ones, committed by the "usual suspects."
This fact points to a cultural issue. The origins of that (or those) cultural issue(s) can be debated. But this is why Muslim-on-Muslim atrocities don't get the play that Muslim-on-Jew or Muslim-on-nominal-Christian ones do. (And it's a stretch to call Israel's treatment of Palestinians over the decades an "atrocity," no matter what certain folks here continue to claim - Israel, for instance, doesn't go out of its way to target noncombatants, in fact tries to avoid them, doesn't use rape as a weapon, and doesn't desecrate bodies, and we all know it.)
I bet many Israeli grannies are going to start keeping a stash of potassium cyanide in the kitchen now. Be prepared!
Hamas has unleashed the dogs of war. The consequences are unknowable but always further reaching than anticipated. The maelstrom will grow and consume.
Richard said...
"How dare the Jews defend themselves from being slaughtered in the most horrific way. Why can't they just go meekly to their deaths like during the Holocaust?"
Another dumb conclusion. Are you guys competing for an award?
Old and slow said...
"Why indeed? Crack? Rcocean? The only Arabs anyone gives a shit about are the ones slaughtering Jews. Funny that."
I like how, if you guys have a question, that doesn't mean you go to Google or YouTube looking for answers like I do. It means you challenge someone else to do the work and come up with one so you can then call them a name. Because you already have your answer: The Zionists, in all their spiritual benevolence, should just kill everybody else - though that's never worked before. This is why some black people think you were probably former slavers: you want other people to do your work for you, you're sticking up for the Concentration Camp Crew, and you want most shit enforced by violence. And then there's the name "Old and slow". With that kind of evidence, it's a likely assumption you've got a nasty historical past.
And - before you get lippy about it - I'm down with the Cookie Crew
"no matter when in time, no matter where in the world, find Muslims, find trouble."
"Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith."
- Winston Churchill (1899)
Because you already have your answer: The Zionists, in all their spiritual benevolence, should just kill everybody else - though that's never worked before.
I don't think anyone here has even hinted that "Zionists" (or Jews) should "kill everybody else." Kill the people who attacked then, yes - we've definitely heard that. But the "Zionists" are not the side that wants to wipe out the other side.
The Crack Emcee said...
"Richard said...
"How dare the Jews defend themselves from being slaughtered in the most horrific way. Why can't they just go meekly to their deaths like during the Holocaust?"
Another dumb conclusion. Are you guys competing for an award?"
Are you?
I don't know what ghetto you're from, but I know when I'm attacked I fight back like my life depends on it. If I don't, at best, I wind up bloody and bruised. If I do. I still might wind up bloody and bruised, but so is the other guy.
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