Young Ukrainians Scared To Leave Their Homes As More And More Videos Emerge Of Forced Conscription As Ukraine’s manpower on its frontlines starts to dwindle, military leaders are becoming increasingly desperate to locate new recruits to propel its counteroffensive against Russia forward; however, the number of young people volunteering for such a challenge has plummeted. The brutal mobilization by Ukrainian military recruitment officers of young men has been occurring for a year and a half now, Hungarian newspaper Magyar Nemzet reports.
“Many conscripted men are taken straight off the street by uniformed men,” it states. “Most recently in Subcarpathia, a surveillance camera recorded the overreach of the authorities as a man trying to go to a store was kidnapped from his bicycle in broad daylight.”
The last time Gilbar quoted Zero Hedge was the July 4th Sunrise thread (link). I pointed out then that Zero Hedge had obviously lied when they claimed that Ukraine had signed the 2008 Convention on Cluster Munitions, and that two minutes research would have proven they lied. Gilbar never had the decency to correct or even acknowledge his error, even when reminded, which shows that he doesn't mind repeating lies.
As I concluded then, "Russian propagandists especially need to shut up if they repeat easily-proven bald-faced lies about Russia and Ukraine, as Zero Hedge and gilbar did in this case." So, gilbar, could you just shut up about Ukraine? Anything Zero Hedge writes about them is likely to be a lie.
My wife and I were watching the nightly news on NBC (or was it CBS?) and there was a story about a healthy young man dying of too much Kratom.
My wife had never heard of the stuff, but I have, and it has been sold here for a long time.
The grieving parents were expressing their dismay at the lack of regulation and quality control, and apparently the American Kratom Association (no, really) agrees that having some standards would help prevent harm.
But what struck me was the fact that before and after the Kratom Panic story, there were commercials for extremely powerful pharmaceutical wonder pills and jabs, with paragraphs of disclaimers and warnings about side effects up to and including sudden death.
When the AKA figures out Big Pharma's secret to favorable press, the OD stories will vanish as the morning dew under a pink sun.
It's very hard to interpret videos from another country. You see a man being hustled into a car by soldiers - captions claim that this man was Ukrainian draft dodger. But was he? Was he a Russian spy? Was he a spotter for Russian drones? Was he a criminal whose crimes were committed in the military? It's all so hard to interpret. Another instance. A Russian General circulates a statement on Telegram which says that the army in the Ukraine is not getting counter battery support against Ukrainian artillery and consequently is suffering huge losses. He loses his job as a General at once, which I take to mean he was telling the truth. But what was he saying? Has Ukrainian artillery got all its ducks in a row in the trenches and is registering on them and wiping them out. Is this why cluster bombs are wanted? But why don't the Russians flee when they know a gun is registered on them? Would they be shot if they left their position. Would they break and run if they were allowed to leave their position? How can we know except in a broad way and often after it's over, what's happening?
Gilbar - interesting to see what you consider to be reliable news sources. Regardless, during the war there is a general mobilization and the Ukraine government can legally require anyone age 18-60 to serve. I assume if someone refuses, that there are consequences. So what.
Mutaman, I was surprised to see RFK jump the shark so early in the campaign.
“COVID-19. There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,” Kennedy said. “COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”
“We don’t know whether it was deliberately targeted or not but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential and impact,” Kennedy hedged.
The accused murderer, rapist, arsonist, kidnapper who escaped the local county jail, was captured yesterday afternoon after a week on the run. He escaped from the top floor of the exercise yard. The "yard" had a chain link fence for a roof that had a hole in it. Said escapee climbed on a pull-up bar, through the hole and bed sheeted his way down the other side. It was captured on video, but missed by the guards.
Our rural county is mostly woods and hills. A barking dog alerted the homeowner, who saw the bad guy and called 911. The State Police SERT team created a large perimeter and closed in on him. He gave up (unarmed surprisingly) without incident. When questioned, the State Police spokesman said he will not be returned to the local jail (ha).
A huge sigh of relief for our residents. Now we can back to leaving our doors unlocked and our keys in our cars.
On August 21, 2019, Donald Trump announced that American Jews who voted Democratic were either stupid, disloyal, or both. As Trump framed things: “I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat, I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty.” Disloyalty to Trump, the US, or Israel? The former president did not specify. But he didn’t have to, the message was clear enough: American Jews are a cross between political props and piñatas.
Now we have a staunch Roman Catholic of the Irish Kennedy clan openly disregarding policies of The Church which had the gall to forgive the Jewish people for the deicide of Jesus Christ.
Mix a little politics with a lot of religion and we suddenly have another conspiracy theory.
Evangelicals are huge supporters of Israel and the Jewish people in general. The American Jewish community's continued support for the Commie-Pinko party mystifies us, but that support appears to be eroding. My personal policy is never to besmirch God's anointed* (the Jews).
* See what King David did to the guy who claimed to have killed God's anointed (King Saul), who was out to kill David.
?Regardless, during the war there is a general mobilization and the Ukraine government can legally require anyone age 18-60 to serve. I assume if someone refuses, that there are consequences. So what.
So what? there you go.. The lefties here ADMIT, that EVERY THING i've posted is true.. But! it doesn't conform to What They want to hear; so they say: You got that from a bad source.
"Debunked"???? Its on video. Junior doesn't deny he said this."
LOL
Mutaman decides now is a good time to mimic the buffoon gadfly and double down!
Quoting peer-reviewed papers on bio-weapons research regarding programs we have long known exist, and the US funds in foreign nations, that would allow for the systematic targeting of specific groups of people based on shared genetic traits is not anti-semitism.
And there is already a great deal of information that the SARS2 virus appears to be less lethal for some groups (ex's Asians/Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews) vs others (caucasians).
This technology push is so well known it was the very basis for the plotline in the last Bond movie...but accelerated so that actual individuals could be mass targeted without harming others.
Just think about what the world would look like if that bio-tech was fully developed and weaponized. Do you really think the Covid Nazi's would hesitate to use it?
This is precisely the sort of research our establishment "betters" are funding at dual-use research labs run by our potential enemies.
There seems to be quite a few Fauci/Gates types intent on getting the world population down to their preferred target # of just 500 million.
Kennedy is drawing attention to this so all the Usual Lefty/LLR-lefty morons launch another "Trump said to drink bleach!"-like smear.
And as usual, only the True Believers rushing to find replacement lies for their earlier moronic collusion and hoax dossier lies will buy this.
As we see demonstrated conclusively on this thread....again.
In that sense perhaps we should thank Mutaman and gadfly for once again playing to example type as we await their lefty and LLR-lefty pals (Dumb Lefty Mark, LLR-democratical Chuck, Inga, LLR lonejustice, Inga, victoria, etc.) to chime in.
Next up for Mutaman et al, claiming Tucker Carlson's hilarious cocaine in the White House riff at Turning Point yesterday was actually Tucker making fun of the disabled.
I'm SURE, that folks like Mr We_Evil and Jim???? will say: a) that this source is completely unreliable, so.. b) that means the report is COMPLETELY UNTRUE. And that, c) that, OF COURSE it happened.. who cares? because, d) it is COMPLETELY True This is what as known, as "dizzying intellect" because it makes your head spin as they round and round
I could call gilbar 'glib bore' or something stupid like that, but I refuse to sink to his middle-school level. Most of what he's "SURE" I will say is not in fact what I would say. (Has he not heard that all-caps make you look stupid on the web?) In fact, his link does not say that Yellen thinks that a forever war in Ukraine would boost the global economy, she says (3rd paragraph) that "Ending this war is first and foremost a moral imperative, . . . But it's also the single best thing we can do for the global economy."
Is gilbar unaware that Ukraine was one of biggest exporters of grain to the Third World until Russia invaded, stole huge areas of farmland, mined others, and cut off irrigation in others by blowing up the Nova Kakhovka dam, and that they continue to threaten the ships exporting grain from the free parts of Ukraine? The fact is that millions in Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia are in danger of starving because of the Russian invasion, and the sooner Ukraine wins back those lands, clears the mines, and rebuilds the many dams (not just N.K.) that the Russians blew up, the sooner the world food supply will recover. And the story even mentions this in the 7th and 8th of its very short paragraphs. Did gilbar even read the story?
Of course, gilbar still has not even acknowledged my proof (link in my 7:54pm comment) that the last time he linked Zero Hedge, it was an easily-proven bald-faced lie, and that therefore neither he, nor Zero Hedge, should ever be believed in anything they say about Ukraine. And there is no evidence that the films of young men being arrested were even filmed in Ukraine, or that (if they were) the arrestees are not drug dealers or pickpockets or other common criminals. He's found a less-easily-disproven story this time, but the onus is on him to prove that neither he nor Zero Hedge is lying this time, especially since he refuses to acknowledge the previous lie. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.
Here's one small clue that Zero Hedge is lying this time, too. The third video is introduced with these words: "In Vinnytsia, which is located between Kyiv and Odessa, for example, a video is also circulating of employees of the local military auxiliary command forcefully stuffing their victims into a luxury vehicle."
Cool thing about the web: you can find out all kinds of detailed information, for instance that the license plate in the video, beginning with AA, is a Kyiv license plate. (Wikipedia has a long and well-illustrated article on "Vehicle registration plates of Ukraine".) Vinnytsia license plates begin with AB or KB. Why would the "local military auxiliary command" have non-local plates?
I'm sure someone who knows Hungarian and Ukrainian and knows how to search for reused images and videos and detect photoshops could find more evidence showing who was arresting whom, where, and why. The fact that Zero Hedge has lied before means that no one should believe them, or the fools who quote them. The fact that they say it is a strong sign that it's untrue.
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Young Ukrainians Scared To Leave Their Homes As More And More Videos Emerge Of Forced Conscription
As Ukraine’s manpower on its frontlines starts to dwindle, military leaders are becoming increasingly desperate to locate new recruits to propel its counteroffensive against Russia forward; however, the number of young people volunteering for such a challenge has plummeted.
The brutal mobilization by Ukrainian military recruitment officers of young men has been occurring for a year and a half now, Hungarian newspaper Magyar Nemzet reports.
“Many conscripted men are taken straight off the street by uniformed men,” it states. “Most recently in Subcarpathia, a surveillance camera recorded the overreach of the authorities as a man trying to go to a store was kidnapped from his bicycle in broad daylight.”
NEVER Forget, who The REAL Baddies Are
OK. It's Saturday night, and the mushrooms are kicking in.
Red Sun Rising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cj2M_Mprw
Moon is down, but smoke is back.
Sun turns red. Hottest day in Phoenix ever recorded. Doom is upon us.
Nice picture though
Trying to figure RFK JR's motive for Jew baiting. I guess the most reasonable answer is that he is profoundly disturbed.
For those of you who don't know, the song is:
Red Sun Rising - by The Otherside.
An appropriate sunrise song in my jaded opinion.
The last time Gilbar quoted Zero Hedge was the July 4th Sunrise thread (link). I pointed out then that Zero Hedge had obviously lied when they claimed that Ukraine had signed the 2008 Convention on Cluster Munitions, and that two minutes research would have proven they lied. Gilbar never had the decency to correct or even acknowledge his error, even when reminded, which shows that he doesn't mind repeating lies.
As I concluded then, "Russian propagandists especially need to shut up if they repeat easily-proven bald-faced lies about Russia and Ukraine, as Zero Hedge and gilbar did in this case." So, gilbar, could you just shut up about Ukraine? Anything Zero Hedge writes about them is likely to be a lie.
My wife and I were watching the nightly news on NBC (or was it CBS?) and there was a story about a healthy young man dying of too much Kratom.
My wife had never heard of the stuff, but I have, and it has been sold here for a long time.
The grieving parents were expressing their dismay at the lack of regulation and quality control, and apparently the American Kratom Association (no, really) agrees that having some standards would help prevent harm.
But what struck me was the fact that before and after the Kratom Panic story, there were commercials for extremely powerful pharmaceutical wonder pills and jabs, with paragraphs of disclaimers and warnings about side effects up to and including sudden death.
When the AKA figures out Big Pharma's secret to favorable press, the OD stories will vanish as the morning dew under a pink sun.
It's very hard to interpret videos from another country. You see a man being hustled into a car by soldiers - captions claim that this man was Ukrainian draft dodger. But was he? Was he a Russian spy? Was he a spotter for Russian drones? Was he a criminal whose crimes were committed in the military? It's all so hard to interpret.
Another instance. A Russian General circulates a statement on Telegram which says that the army in the Ukraine is not getting counter battery support against Ukrainian artillery and consequently is suffering huge losses. He loses his job as a General at once, which I take to mean he was telling the truth. But what was he saying? Has Ukrainian artillery got all its ducks in a row in the trenches and is registering on them and wiping them out. Is this why cluster bombs are wanted? But why don't the Russians flee when they know a gun is registered on them? Would they be shot if they left their position. Would they break and run if they were allowed to leave their position? How can we know except in a broad way and often after it's over, what's happening?
Gilbar - interesting to see what you consider to be reliable news sources. Regardless, during the war there is a general mobilization and the Ukraine government can legally require anyone age 18-60 to serve. I assume if someone refuses, that there are consequences. So what.
Mutaman: "Trying to figure RFK JR's motive for Jew baiting. I guess the most reasonable answer is that he is profoundly disturbed."
Mutaman, per usual, last of the moron lefties out of the gate on this thoroughly debunked smear.
I suppose its the "best" we can hope for with the "quality" of our dem/left/LLR-left posters.
Mutaman, I was surprised to see RFK jump the shark so early in the campaign.
“COVID-19. There is an argument that it is ethnically targeted. COVID-19 attacks certain races disproportionately,” Kennedy said. “COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese.”
“We don’t know whether it was deliberately targeted or not but there are papers out there that show the racial or ethnic differential and impact,” Kennedy hedged.
Drago said...
"this thoroughly debunked smear."
"Debunked"???? Its on video. Junior doesn't deny he said this.
The accused murderer, rapist, arsonist, kidnapper who escaped the local county jail, was captured yesterday afternoon after a week on the run. He escaped from the top floor of the exercise yard. The "yard" had a chain link fence for a roof that had a hole in it. Said escapee climbed on a pull-up bar, through the hole and bed sheeted his way down the other side. It was captured on video, but missed by the guards.
Our rural county is mostly woods and hills. A barking dog alerted the homeowner, who saw the bad guy and called 911. The State Police SERT team created a large perimeter and closed in on him. He gave up (unarmed surprisingly) without incident. When questioned, the State Police spokesman said he will not be returned to the local jail (ha).
A huge sigh of relief for our residents. Now we can back to leaving our doors unlocked and our keys in our cars.
On August 21, 2019, Donald Trump announced that American Jews who voted Democratic were either stupid, disloyal, or both. As Trump framed things: “I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat, I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty.” Disloyalty to Trump, the US, or Israel? The former president did not specify. But he didn’t have to, the message was clear enough: American Jews are a cross between political props and piñatas.
Now we have a staunch Roman Catholic of the Irish Kennedy clan openly disregarding policies of The Church which had the gall to forgive the Jewish people for the deicide of Jesus Christ.
Mix a little politics with a lot of religion and we suddenly have another conspiracy theory.
Evangelicals are huge supporters of Israel and the Jewish people in general. The American Jewish community's continued support for the Commie-Pinko party mystifies us, but that support appears to be eroding. My personal policy is never to besmirch God's anointed* (the Jews).
* See what King David did to the guy who claimed to have killed God's anointed (King Saul), who was out to kill David.
?Regardless, during the war there is a general mobilization and the Ukraine government can legally require anyone age 18-60 to serve. I assume if someone refuses, that there are consequences. So what.
So what? there you go.. The lefties here ADMIT, that EVERY THING i've posted is true..
But! it doesn't conform to What They want to hear; so they say: You got that from a bad source.
Interesting to see "staunch Roman Catholic" make a comeback.
Embrace it...
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/07/will_someone_please_wake_me_from_this_nightmare.html
Or.... Nibble on a 2 year old girl!
Such are democrats.
Gadfly.
"lack of knowledge" does not equal stupid.
Gadfly.
"lack of knowledge" does not equal stupid.
“And I think,
It's gonna be alright
Yeah,
The worst is over now”
Mutaman: "Drago said...
"this thoroughly debunked smear."
"Debunked"???? Its on video. Junior doesn't deny he said this."
LOL
Mutaman decides now is a good time to mimic the buffoon gadfly and double down!
Quoting peer-reviewed papers on bio-weapons research regarding programs we have long known exist, and the US funds in foreign nations, that would allow for the systematic targeting of specific groups of people based on shared genetic traits is not anti-semitism.
And there is already a great deal of information that the SARS2 virus appears to be less lethal for some groups (ex's Asians/Chinese and Ashkenazi Jews) vs others (caucasians).
This technology push is so well known it was the very basis for the plotline in the last Bond movie...but accelerated so that actual individuals could be mass targeted without harming others.
Just think about what the world would look like if that bio-tech was fully developed and weaponized. Do you really think the Covid Nazi's would hesitate to use it?
This is precisely the sort of research our establishment "betters" are funding at dual-use research labs run by our potential enemies.
There seems to be quite a few Fauci/Gates types intent on getting the world population down to their preferred target # of just 500 million.
Kennedy is drawing attention to this so all the Usual Lefty/LLR-lefty morons launch another "Trump said to drink bleach!"-like smear.
And as usual, only the True Believers rushing to find replacement lies for their earlier moronic collusion and hoax dossier lies will buy this.
As we see demonstrated conclusively on this thread....again.
In that sense perhaps we should thank Mutaman and gadfly for once again playing to example type as we await their lefty and LLR-lefty pals (Dumb Lefty Mark, LLR-democratical Chuck, Inga, LLR lonejustice, Inga, victoria, etc.) to chime in.
Next up for Mutaman et al, claiming Tucker Carlson's hilarious cocaine in the White House riff at Turning Point yesterday was actually Tucker making fun of the disabled.
Lets see what happens.
On August 21, 2019, Donald Trump announced that American Jews who voted Democratic were either stupid, disloyal, or both.
Now do Democrats talking about Jews, Black people and Brown people who support the Republicans or are Conservative.
Yellen Says Funding Ukraine’s War Effort Is the Best Boost for Global Economy
I'm SURE, that folks like Mr We_Evil and Jim???? will say:
a) that this source is completely unreliable, so..
b) that means the report is COMPLETELY UNTRUE. And that,
c) that, OF COURSE it happened.. who cares? because,
d) it is COMPLETELY True
This is what as known, as "dizzying intellect" because it makes your head spin as they round and round
I could call gilbar 'glib bore' or something stupid like that, but I refuse to sink to his middle-school level. Most of what he's "SURE" I will say is not in fact what I would say. (Has he not heard that all-caps make you look stupid on the web?) In fact, his link does not say that Yellen thinks that a forever war in Ukraine would boost the global economy, she says (3rd paragraph) that "Ending this war is first and foremost a moral imperative, . . . But it's also the single best thing we can do for the global economy."
Is gilbar unaware that Ukraine was one of biggest exporters of grain to the Third World until Russia invaded, stole huge areas of farmland, mined others, and cut off irrigation in others by blowing up the Nova Kakhovka dam, and that they continue to threaten the ships exporting grain from the free parts of Ukraine? The fact is that millions in Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia are in danger of starving because of the Russian invasion, and the sooner Ukraine wins back those lands, clears the mines, and rebuilds the many dams (not just N.K.) that the Russians blew up, the sooner the world food supply will recover. And the story even mentions this in the 7th and 8th of its very short paragraphs. Did gilbar even read the story?
Of course, gilbar still has not even acknowledged my proof (link in my 7:54pm comment) that the last time he linked Zero Hedge, it was an easily-proven bald-faced lie, and that therefore neither he, nor Zero Hedge, should ever be believed in anything they say about Ukraine. And there is no evidence that the films of young men being arrested were even filmed in Ukraine, or that (if they were) the arrestees are not drug dealers or pickpockets or other common criminals. He's found a less-easily-disproven story this time, but the onus is on him to prove that neither he nor Zero Hedge is lying this time, especially since he refuses to acknowledge the previous lie. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.
Here's one small clue that Zero Hedge is lying this time, too. The third video is introduced with these words: "In Vinnytsia, which is located between Kyiv and Odessa, for example, a video is also circulating of employees of the local military auxiliary command forcefully stuffing their victims into a luxury vehicle."
Cool thing about the web: you can find out all kinds of detailed information, for instance that the license plate in the video, beginning with AA, is a Kyiv license plate. (Wikipedia has a long and well-illustrated article on "Vehicle registration plates of Ukraine".) Vinnytsia license plates begin with AB or KB. Why would the "local military auxiliary command" have non-local plates?
I'm sure someone who knows Hungarian and Ukrainian and knows how to search for reused images and videos and detect photoshops could find more evidence showing who was arresting whom, where, and why. The fact that Zero Hedge has lied before means that no one should believe them, or the fools who quote them. The fact that they say it is a strong sign that it's untrue.
Is this good defensive move against FJB slobber on children of offended parents >>
what if interpose a Koran/bible/menorah between FJB face/tongue and target surface/
Is this good defensive move against FJB slobber on children of offended parents >>
what if interpose a Koran/bible/menorah between FJB face/tongue and target surface/
Drago has been debunked.
Muttaman has been de-nutted.
Mutaman: "Drago has been debunked."
Were you sucking your thumb when you hit "submit" for that comment?
Too late to delete it now of course.
Let me know if you'd like to delete your comment but need me to also delete my reference to it. I'll seriously consider it.
You're welcome.
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