@therapyjeff 5 things society makes a big deal about but really doesn’t have to be that important. #therapytiktok #mentalhealth #therapy #therapysessions ♬ original sound - TherapyJeff
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He may not be 100% right, but he's right in the sense that you ought to consider which of these 5 seemingly essential elements of life you really want in your own life.
This guy is revealing some big secrets about life quite succinctly and memorably. A TikTok video, so I'll put it after the jump.
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6. Hanging out with this guy. Don't want to.
Yeah, terrible, terrible capitalism, forcing people to be productive. The socialist countries made a fetish of productivity! And why not? The more productive people are, the more there is for potentially everybody. I wonder where that story about the grasshopper and the ant came from.
I like him even though I’m traveling this week. Lake Tahoe is the most beautiful place in the world today, I declare. I’m with my favorite person and it’s not me. I don’t have the runs.
What a wonderful idea, take common and popular life activities and make a post saying they are not as wonderful as many think. I bet he can make posts for years just like this, eventually getting down to "Don't get out of bed" and "Stop eating." Thank God physical behavior like heartbeat and breathing are autonomous, or his posts might come to an abrupt halt when he realizes how overrated those are, too.
How bold, how courageous, how banal.
I would walk far enough away from this guy so I couldn't hear him. My dog has deeper thouhts than he does
News flash.
Reproducing is pure science. Fight it at your peril. He should go interview the Shakers, they tried to perfect the no children concept.
Notice the obvious one he left out.
Obvious 2, actually!
The main problem I have with TikTok is by the time I figure out how to turn on the audio the video is halfway through. And returning to the previous page starts the catch me if can bs all over again.
This is only here because of #5. :)
Living a life centered on self is ultimately empty and unfulfilling. Yes you don't have a magical "you were placed on this earth for a purpose", but to not do things that have purpose is like eating chocolate cake all day, everyday. Sure it seems fine at the start, but eventually your body will suffer. I hope he doesn't have kids. My guess is that he won't have them in the normal way anyway given his likely orientation. Some people should not have kids, but others should stop trying to be successful and have kids. It all depends on which lie you are buying into.
Otherwise, this guy is right.
If there is no purpose to life, then there was no purpose in making or distributing the video. There was also no purpose in proposing the four subsequent insights. Nor, any purpose in watching the video. Nor, commenting on the video in this forum.
Life has no meaning? That's unpossible! Next thing he'll be claiming Existence precedes Essence.
Mind. Blown.
I could live without every conversation being peppered with the F word.
It's like zero based budgeting. You don't need to fill up your life with the things you've heard people must do. You should judge for yourself which of these things you want. He's not talking about flouting conventions about hurting other people and destroying things. He's saying let go of the sense of obligation about these things and then build the life that suits you out of the things that work for you.
Now, this advice is dangerous because as a society, we need a flow of babies into this world.
this guy says
you can be "happy and satisfied and well adjusted" without doing these things..
Okay, a Serious Question: Taking ALL you know about this guy.. Does he SEEM
happy?
satisfied?
well adjusted?
Or does he seem like he is a candidate for suicide ???
Well the good news is he hates to travel anywhere, so this makes the odds of my inadvertently coming across this sad bastard comfortably remote. Dodged a bullet, there.
It wasn't until I was in my 30s that truly emotionally knew the difference between the things people in general seem to like and what I personally liked.
Seriously, does this guy seem happy? Does he Look like someone to listen to?
Even More Seriously.. What are HIS opinions on Day Drinking?
"Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
You might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
You may be sleeping on the floor, sleeping in a king-sized bed
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You’re gonna have to serve somebody"
He left out eating and sleeping right?
Now, this advice is dangerous because as a society, we need a flow of babies into this world.
No, we don't Individuals might consider whether having people to care for you in your old age is a positive benefit, and the ones to do that would be your children (provided you treated them right when raising them.) But our society, somewhere around a few years back decided to universalize elder care and so all the old people today think other people's children are obligated to take care of them. People who have large holdings in commercial enterprises need children so that they can continue to grow the business need a flow of babies.
Ok, so I talked myself out of my own answer. Society HAS forced itself to need a flow of babies, but it shouldn't have done it.
My parents took us kids to a 7-Eleven after Mass each Sunday, and gave us each a single dime and a penny (for the tax on a dime's purchase) to buy candy (it was the early 1960s). And while I always wanted a full sized candy bar (which back then weighed either 8 ounces, maybe 16 ounces, or so it seemed at the time to five year old me) I would have to save for a whole two weeks to afford just one, when I could get up to 10 pieces of penny candy every week.
I knew at age 5 exactly what I personally liked & wanted, and what anyone else seemed to like was completely unimportant. Truly, emotionally. What my siblings chose was up to them, and I didn't care about their choices. Chico Sticks, for example, were not high on my list.
Such early lessons in societal norms versus self fulfillment have stood me well in life. For example, I never traded a Mary Jane for a Fireball with my rotten older brother. That's a chump's trade. I still love my wife after almost 4 decades. Both my kids are now functioning adults. And I know to put a change of undies and a spare shirt in my carryon when traveling, against the possibility of lost or delayed luggage. That's called adulting now, but it used to be called "just life."
You don't need to do the things other people do to be happy, but his entire video seems like the sorry excuses for a life-long loser.
I didn't know Nihilism had evangelists now, though I do agree with him on the traveling thing. I noticed he didn't mention education. I don't know if he thinks that it is critically important which is why he didn't mention it, or if it just slipped his mind. I would be far more comfortable advising a young person that college and higher education may not be suited for him or her than getting married and having children is not suited for him or her.
"He's saying let go of the sense of obligation about these things and then build the life that suits you out of the things that work for you."
That's a nice interpetation, but it's not the only thing he's saying. By the way, who these days has a sense of "obligation" about "these things"? Besides having to bow to the latest prog edicts, what is "obligation" now anyway? Meanwhile, I keep building my life in a way that avoids people like this.
He also didn't mention religion. Now maybe he considered it wrapped up in purpose, but given his overall nihilism, I suspect it is more likely it never even crossed his mind that religion can be a very fulfilling component of people's lives. Funny how Nietzsche predicted that nihilism could be a side effect of people losing religion.
Wa St Blogger said...
"Society HAS forced itself to need a flow of babies, but it shouldn't have done it."
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OK, so let's perform a thought experiment:
* Everyone in Society decides not to have ANY babies.
* Fast forward 125 years.
* Describe "Society" then.
"this guy says
you can be 'happy and satisfied and well adjusted' without doing these things..
"Okay, a Serious Question: Taking ALL you know about this guy.. Does he SEEM
happy?
satisfied?
well adjusted?"
Yes, yes, and...yes!
You don't need to do the things other people do to be happy, but his entire video seems like the sorry excuses for a life-long loser.
To me it sounded like "ways to help his depressed and despairing TikTok audience feel better about their lives."
The not having kids one - it's impossible for a person without kids to know whether it's "worth it" not to have kids, whereas those who do have kids have at least some experience of life without kids, and so have a basis for comparison. It's true that I'll never know what it's like to be middle-aged or old with no kids, but considering that having kids has indeed already afforded me the experience of the most profound love (and most abject terror, it's also true) I can imagine and have ever felt, I'm willing to accept that trade-off.
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
But you’re gonna have to serve somebody
And its corollary:
I can tell you fancy, I can tell you plain:
You give something up for every thing you gain
That he's talking into a mirror is most appropriate.
"I wonder where that story about the grasshopper and the ant came from."
Asian Jews.
"He's saying let go of the sense of obligation about these things and then build the life that suits you out of the things that work for you."
So in your little scenario, who takes care of grandma?
AA @ 10:43: "...Now, this advice is dangerous because as a society, we need a flow of babies into this world."
Very true. And with the infantilization of perfectly-otherwise-adult individuals (while paradoxically exposing them all to a torrent of "adult" information and insights calculated to render them depressed and cynical) means that the next generation is becoming less and less interested in adding to that flow of babies. They're wise to the con. For the ticket price of a baby --say 7 figures-- they lease a new Bimmer every year and do some killer vacay whenever they want.
Civilization is a demographic Ponzi scheme...
“Now, this advice is dangerous because as a society, we need a flow of babies into this world.”
But I’m not a society, so I don’t.
Feel free to not be productive, dude. Just don't ask me to support you.
Dude jumped a place and landed on delta.
Okay, it's been nearly 5 hours..
WHAT are the 2 obvious things he missed?
A point he missed: Nobody cares about what you think. Or maybe that was the first point, sort of. But the wisdom of age has taught me that the world spins on freely without my input.
1. Combing your hair.
2. Trimming your fingernails.
The perfect encapsulation of the spoiled 21st century Leftist.
He, and people like him, are the reason this period of history will be known as the period of self-indulgence.
The not having kids one - it's impossible for a person without kids to know whether it's "worth it" not to have kids,
My only regret in life is not having kids.
Ok, so I talked myself out of my own answer. Society HAS forced itself to need a flow of babies, but it shouldn't have done it.
This is fucking crazy.
The basic purpose of life is to create more life. The basic purpose of humans is to produce more humans. Anything else literally leads to extinction.
Ann Keppa says:
* Fast forward 125 years.
* Describe "Society" then.
Leftist Utopia?
Gahrie says:
The basic purpose of life is to create more life. The basic purpose of humans is to produce more humans. Anything else literally leads to extinction.
I am addressing a different point. I'm all for children. I think it helps to have a family, it is an important part of life. But I think that "society" needing a steady stream of more babies is a different issue altogether. doing thing for "society" is how we get ourselves into messes. When a group thinks society needs this or society needs that, then laws are passed and everyone must comply. Chinese society needed less babies, now it needs more. Society needs to actively affirm and promote every alternative sexual proclivity. No, thank you.
“.right now, we’re talking about MY feelings.”
Who’s the ”we”? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
“Notice the obvious one he left out.”
Since it’s obvious there was no reason to put it in.
I enjoyed watching him poke fun at these things. None is absolutely essential to an individual person, although #3 (producing children) and #4 (producing food) are essential overall. I think 1-4 are written into our DNA. At first glance, #5 (travel) seems least essential, but even travel can help us to learn, with Dorothy, that there's no place like home.
is anyone else Not Surprised At ALL, that Robert Cook thinks this guy is a Great Role Model?
No, individually we do not need to do any of these things. Some people may even be happier if they opt not to do them. But humanity's collective experience over the entire span of our existence suggests that there are good reasons why these behaviors benefit us. Do whatever you like with your life. It's the only one you've got. Having children never appealed to me at all when I was younger. Thank God for alcohol, or I'd have never become a father, and what a loss that would have been for me. I can't even imagine my life without my sons.
I hate this guy, but not so much to log into TikTok.
If I followed this guy, I wouldn't have a 23-year career in newspapers that gave me two pensions to live off of.
I wouldn't have bought a home that I paid off in 17 years and saved myself thousands of dollars. And as long as I pay the taxes (a few thousand a year) and utilities, I can continue to live in it and pass it on to my children.
I wouldn't have married (30 years now) and discovered a wonderful woman who puts up with me and gives me time to do right. And if she hadn't insisted on having children, I wouldn't have discovered how wonderful (sometimes) it is to have them. Looking back, I wish we had more.
And when I'm elderly, I'll be in a house I can continue to live in, and very likely cared for by my children, while he'll be crapping himself in a medical center surrounded by minimum-wage workers who care as much about him as his friends and family.
What a terrible human being, deceiving people like that.
"The basic purpose of life is to create more life."
To be more specific, the only purpose of life is to create more life. This doesn't mean every individual person (or every living creature) will or must spawn offspring, but it is the only actual purpose life can be said to have. The rest is self-preservation until death. Any other "purpose" (or "meaning") in life is that which we create in our minds.
"but even travel can help us to learn, with Dorothy, that there's no place like home."
@therapymeade: Dorothy, stay home, do your chores and train Toto to stop biting the neighbors. Learn to take some responsibility. Only then can you go on a roadtrip, manipulate apple trees, try opium and meet all sorts of flying monkeys and crazy people. Take my word for it -- home is great. Tell your aunt and uncle you love them and find ways everyday to thank them for taking you in after your parents abandoned you. I see our time is up. That will be $100. See you next week.
The obvious 2 left out?
1. College
2. Sex
He misses the big Element: Life is not a movie, and you are not the star.
When I came to understand that the universe is not about me, and that all I can actually control is how I react to life unfolding, all of the silly things he mentions fell immediately into place.
I only made it to #3.
"is anyone else Not Surprised At ALL, that Robert Cook thinks this guy is a Great Role Model?"
I'm not surprised that Gilbar completely misunderstands (or purposely misrepresents) my own previous comment. The question was not whether the man was a "Great Role Model," but if he seemed happy, satisfied and well-adjusted. He certainly seemed to me to be all these things, based simply on the video. I have no information to begin to know or guess if he is a Great Role Model, (or even just a great role model).
The kids he never had will thank him for not having them.
You don't need to keep up with the news. You don't need to keep up with pop culture.
I think realizing those things would be more helpful to most people.
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