From "Reddit and the End of Online ‘Community’ A standoff between the site and some of its most devoted users exposes an existential dilemma" (Intelligencer).
"But Reddit has always struggled to make money because its leadership seemed to understand that aggressive attempts to monetize would make its most active and valuable (and obsessive and defensive) users, the ones inclined to provide and filter and organize its content, less likely to feel like they’re there for each other, more cognizant of the firm that’s overseeing the whole operation, and more likely to see their contributions as unpaid labor for a corporation...."
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Reddit threads and reddit mods are a leftist echo chamber. The screen caps of the salt pouring from the eyes of thousands of mods on reddit chat who have mercilessly stifled free debate on their subs for years makes me smile. And you know what? They did it for free.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls mods. It tolls for free. It tolls for thee.
Oops. That should have been in the rfk thread
John lgb Henry
Web.2 is crumbling right before our eyes. I’m glad to see it fall, it’s ruined the internet for the most part. Who knows what is coming to replace it, though.
Reddit troubles me because the posts, though sometimes interesting, generate commentary that seems dramatically different from my sense of what typical people actually think. It's nastier, more leftist, more weird, than I think the "typical" people are.
It makes me think that we are headed toward becoming a low trust society.
Ariana Huffington sold her eponymous news & opinion site for $300,000,000 and gave her volunteer writers nada, zilch, zero, nothing. Why do Reddit mods expect any better treatment from a similarly organized company? And Reddit isn't even profitable yet, so the maltreatment of Reddit mods is part of their normality of expecting nothing and getting even less, with beatings to continue until profits occur, and then to continue harder.
Working for free as pure stupidity is discussed in reddit groups /r/antiwork and /r/workreform, among other subreddits.
Maybe it is time for a return to Usenet?
John lgb Henry
Please note that I have to delete comments -- even good ones -- if they've been posted to the wrong thread.
I've made the same mistake myself, so I know how it happens, but I've got to take them out, because they are confusing and distracting.
The problem is that the most dedicated users don't make any money for the site, because they use apps that bypass ads. That's the whole basis for the standoff; Reddit wants to tax those apps or bar them. Reddit's business model is coming back to bite them; the moderators aren't paid, so they have no incentive to care about traffic numbers or overall profitability. For them, there's a big element of control - "I get to decide what other people see" - and the shutdown just feeds that mentality.
I had heard about this protest, but was surprised the mods could "go dark" - literally hide all content in their subs from public view, including from the people who had contributed that content. The TV sub, with 17 million registered accounts, was thus hidden. I don't think that starting a television sub (or a music sub or NFL sub) required a lot of original thinking, and it wouldn't bother me if Reddit just took direct control of the sub.
Yesterday, a couple smaller subs I look at had posts from people just wondering if anyone knew non-Reddit options for people who were distressed by the conflict. Obviously coordinated.
From the view I've seen, via Louis Rossman, a popular right to repair youtuber, Reddit priced their third party developers out of the platform and "hurt the blind". All in preparation of cashing out with an IPO.
In the video, Rossman discusses the current Reddit vs Internet war. Seems after the CEO firing moderators who rebelled, users are now uploading 1 gb noise videos and John Oliver memes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb458PRJ43s
The existential thing is that the free venture capital money is going away and people are being told the internet actually has costs in capital (servers) and operations (electricity). The internet isn't a soup kitchen.
The existential thing is that the free venture capital money is going away and people are being told the internet actually has costs in capital (servers) and operations (electricity). The internet isn't a soup kitchen.
Best thing about reddit is lurking where liberal minded people talk among themselves. It's a goldmine of statements against interest.
When r/zerowageandsuicidal re-opens the posts are gonna be lit.
Mod angst, it will be filled with
Salty tears, full of I predict it shall be
The wisdom of Yoda, this is
I don't mind giving free labor to a site if the site allows FREEDOM of SPEECH. But I sure as hell aren't going to give any site my "free labor" if they censor and gatekeep.
Its like I told Jim Robinson, at the old Free Republic, "You claim its your site and you can ban anyone you want for any reason. So why are you asking ME for money? Its YOUR site - YOU pay for it".
IRC, it was discovered that WIkIPEDIA was taking peoples donantions and using them for Boat cruises and expensive dinners for their executives. They really didn't need the money, it was a grift
Of course, like HUFFPUFF and REDDIT only Libtards were hurt. Assuming they were hurt. If there's one thing Libtards understand its graft and grifting.
I pretty much stick with blogs and Substack. Everything else seems mostly performative. Check Althouse, Instapundit, and Powerline and follow where they lead.
I’ve been a moderator before - not to the extent to the traffic Reddit sees. It is, by definition, a volunteer job. Microsoft have Microsoft employees as moderators. It’s a terrible environment.
If you don’t want to moderate, don’t. If Reddit are doing you a bad, then stop doing it.
Reddit hosts the data, have the window to that data. Third party apps just use that data, and have their own advertising/monetization (or not). Reddit are within their right to charge for access to that data, just as every other data store does (e.g. Twitter) and is in-line with those prices.
It sucks that something that was once ‘free’ is now not ‘free’. These moderators need to stop acting like spoiled brats, but that’s now the world we live in. These young adults are actually children (which, looking at the content you soon realize).
It's a liberal echo chamber that does not allow right of center thinking. They showed their hand in 2020 when the shut down pro Trump reddits. Its hilarious to see them eat their own over Ukraine as anyone who questions dumping more arms to the Ukraine is automatically painted as a "Putin Lover!" Site administrators only allow liberal orthodoxy to reign, hence its diminishing influence and engagement just like Facebook.
Reddit dumped GenderCritical and some other smaller subs that didn’t kowtow to Trans worship.
"Ann Althouse said...
Please note that I have to delete comments -- even good ones -- if they've been posted to the wrong thread.
I've made the same mistake myself, so I know how it happens,..."
On a couple occasions I have typed something in the comment box, pressed the publish button, and when the screen refreshes I am at the same spot but in a completely different blog post. I find later my comment didn't appear in the place I wanted it to, but in the comment section of the post that I saw after the screen refresh.
It's not always user error that causes misplaced comments.
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