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The wrong masculinity.


The photo, the headline, and the caption say it all, don't you think? Must we go on to read this thing? I've come this far without reading it. Why are we called to loathe this man, Josh Hawley, as he "gestures toward a crowd of Donald Trump supporters"? 

Well, Josh Hawley wrote a book called "Manhood," so he's asking for it and I'll give you a little of what French has to say:
Catastrophic rhetoric is omnipresent on the right.... Traditional masculinity says that people should meet a challenge with a level head and firm convictions. Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency, and is to be combated with relentless trolling and hyperbolic insults.... Every single perceived left-wing outrage or excess is shared far and wide. “How can you be calm?” right-wing activists demand to know. “Didn’t you see that the North Face is using drag queens in its ads?” 
Last month, my friend Jonah Goldberg wrote an important piece cataloging the sheer pettiness of the young online right. “Everywhere I look these days,” he wrote, “I see young conservatives believing they should behave like jerks.” As Jonah notes, there are those who now believe it shows “courage and strength to be coarse or bigoted.” No one should think that this hysteria is confined to online spaces, or that it ultimately remains merely petty or cruel. Hysteria plus cruelty is a recipe for violence. 
And that brings us back to Josh Hawley. For all of its faults when taken to excess, the traditional masculinity of which he claims to be a champion would demand that he stand firm against a howling mob. Rather, he saluted it with a raised fist — and then ran from it when it got too close and too unruly.... 

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Reddington म्हणाले...

“Left-wing culture says that everything is an emergency, and is to be combated with relentless trolling and hyperbolic insults.... Every single perceived right-wing outrage or excess is shared far and wide. “How can you be calm?” left-wing activists demand to know.”

FTFY

And isn’t that the answer to French and all the others upset by the right’s recent adoption of tactics that were once the bailiwick of the left? Overreact, overextend, never back down, always demand more, boycott, cancel, scorch the earth. It’s allowed the left to drastically shift the line over the last twenty years. The right has simply learned to stop resisting and to embrace the lunacy.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

I would prefer to read Dylan Mulvaney's thoughts on masculinity to David French's. David French's idea of masculinity is to roll over and show your belly.

stlcdr म्हणाले...

As the first post Reddington noted: this seems like a whole lot of projection.

Two-eyed Jack म्हणाले...

I struggle to think of any response that is neither petty nor cruel. The mere words "David French in a singlet" induce hysteria. On to other things, then.

Inga म्हणाले...

Indeed, we read it here in these comments threads often, almost daily by a few of the most vociferous rightists.

“Instead, the new right chooses to shriek about “groomers” on Twitter.

If you spend much time at all on right-wing social media — especially Twitter these days — or listening to right-wing news outlets, you’ll be struck by the sheer hysteria of the rhetoric, the hair-on-fire sense of emergency that seems to dominate all discourse.

Catastrophic rhetoric is omnipresent on the right. Let’s go back to the “groomer” smear. It’s a hallmark of right-wing rhetoric that if you disagree with the new right on any matter relating to sex or sexuality, you’re not just wrong, you’re a “groomer” or “soft on pedos.” Did a senator vote to confirm Ketanji Brown Jackson for the Supreme Court? Then he’s “pro-pedophile.” Did you disagree with Florida’s H.B. 1557, which restricted instruction on sexuality and gender identity? Then “you are probably a groomer.”

But conservative catastrophism is only one part of the equation. The other is meanspirited pettiness. Traditional masculinity says that people should meet a challenge with a level head and firm convictions. Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency, and is to be combated with relentless trolling and hyperbolic insults.“

NorthOfTheOneOhOne म्हणाले...

Gahrie said...

I would prefer to read Dylan Mulvaney's thoughts on masculinity to David French's. David French's idea of masculinity is to roll over and show your belly.

Don't forget Jonah Goldberg! He and French are the last two I'd go to looking for advice about manhood.

cassandra lite म्हणाले...

"Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency"?

If that's the depth of French's perception, then whatever he says henceforth can be ignored--not just in this column, but every subsequent column and utterance.

His failure to apprehend the left's pants-on-fire reaction to even language it doesn't like ("words are violence") disqualifies him from serious consideration as a public intellectual, though of course it puts him in the forefront of tongue bathers for NYT readers who require their worldview to be ratified every day over coffee. ("All the news that's fit for people like us.")

Blastfax Kudos म्हणाले...

Yesterday's Korean airlines expose of toxic femininity and the comments section must've really set someone off. Two counter-offensives have been launched and it's not even noon.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The left have and continue to mock men. Ruin men. Ruin boys.

The wretched cretins on "The View" - radical leftist femo-liars constantly lie and loathe- to a national audience of obedient hive-minders... and Jonah G has nothing to say.


Yes - there are petty angry elements on the on-line right. I've seen some of of it myself. Some of these low IQ morons want to remove the a woman's right to vote. and yes- some of Trump's supporters are so blind and loyal to the 76 year old - they say the dumbest shit. But not all of Trump's supporters are like that. Many just want to support Trump's pro-American policies that lead us to underrepresented economic growth... and economic parity for blacks. (The truth about the White Left is they want blacks down, out, angry and under-educated... so they remain in lock-step obedience the corruptocrat party)

But as usually -the left go over-board whining about it - and the left, including Jonah G - continue to ignore the radical Antifa left. Billions in property damage? Ignore?
Fake memes and false flag operations? Ignore. Joe Biden's family criminal operation? Ignore.
and on...

But the left and Johan G (Same thing at this point) have nothing to say about leftwing corruption. Why? because a few petty losers on the right dare to offer their dumb-ass opinions.

Josh Hawley beat that wretched corrupt Hillaryesque harpy Claire McCatkill(D).
So - Jonah G have his knives out.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

David French(D) is a Bill Kristol mold fraud.

Wince म्हणाले...

Notice what has French's panties in a twist: rhetoric and speech.

Although Trump said rhetorically "lock her up" to underscore Clintonian lawlessness before the election in order to persuade voters, he didn't use his eventual position to weaponize federal law enforcement agains his enemies.

French is carrying water for those who demonstrably weaponized law enforcement and strive to censor speech.

donald म्हणाले...

Goldberg and French have a favorite Grand Central Station glory hole that they meet at every month. Prove me wrong.

Inga म्हणाले...

I’ve noticed and so have millions of women who vote. Maybe men should take a second look at who they model themselves after, before you know it you’re suntanning your testicles.

“If the right is going to claim it defends traditional masculinity — through its books, its viral Jordan Peterson videos and its Tucker Carlson documentaries — should it not at least attempt to exhibit the best virtues of traditional masculinity? If the right is going to claim it defends traditional masculinity — through its books, its viral Jordan Peterson videos and its Tucker Carlson documentaries — should it not at least attempt to exhibit the best virtues of traditional masculinity? Yet rather than model the traits of Kipling’s poem “If—,” the right mimics the attitudes of the countercultural 1968 film “If…,” which offered a sardonic inversion of Kipling’s virtues in its tale of a violent, schoolboy-led insurrection at a British boarding school.“

RoseAnne म्हणाले...

Well, Josh Hawley wrote a book called "Manhood," so he's asking for it. So let me give you a little excerpt:

When I read this I thought you were saying John Hawley "was asking for it" and that the excerpt was from his book. I have not read his book but am interested enough to do so eventually. I was prepared to take the excerpt from his book as written whatever he said.

But it wasn't an excerpt from Hawley's book but from French's article which tells what French thinks Hawley said but not what Hawley actually said.

I never was a huge fan of French and have thought he has gotten worse in the last couple of years. Wouldn't have clicked on it to see French's opinion.

Christopher B म्हणाले...

David French knows masculinity by close observation.

From behind his bedroom closet door

Kai Akker म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

There ought to be a picture of David French next to the definition for pedophile in the dictionary. Not because he is one - hasn't been proven yet - but because his physiognomy is such a tropishly good match for one.

David French looks like a stereotypical pedophile. When I hear or read the word "pedophile" his image is what pops into my head. They should change that one show'a name to To Catch A Journalist, ratings would rise.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Why is "Right wing " culture always under the microscope?

Radical leftwing culture is ruining everything - and it gets a pass.

Gator म्हणाले...

I can not think of anyone less credible to speak on masculinity than David French. If you look up “cuck” in the dictionary you’ll see his picture

Sebastian म्हणाले...

What Reddington said. Are there any anti-righty smears that are not projection? Is there any righty "emergency" that exceeds the climate-change "emergency" that progs are pushing?

Tank म्हणाले...

David French's idea of masculinity is to walk two steps behind the left while begging to be liked and included.

David French on masculinity? Yiiiiiii !

Mr. Cuck himself.

gspencer म्हणाले...

But when bros give an raised fist it's empowering?

Too bad Democrats couldn't find a way to make coinage from their hypocrisy,

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f01bb6c91cd75bf20fe034e72c51bec9e940aac9/223_542_2740_1644/master/2740.jpg?width=1200&height=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=322d6567dfaa76af8ad49e8133cb2735

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

French is focused on insulting Josh Hawley, but where he truly reveals his vile and contemptible nature is in his careless dismissal of rightfully outraged American voters as a howling mob.
The fact is French doesn't care if they were disenfranchised. His personal feelings and fortunes are all that ever mattered to him. He has fully exposed himself to be a false and loathsome creature, now broken, muttering endless curses as his bitter tears fall on the shards of his rice bowl. It's a sight that cannot be unseen. French will never again command respect, but like a public toilet, he will be used when needed by anyone. This piece is basically the NYT pulling off to take a Sunday morning dump at a gas station.

hombre म्हणाले...

"Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency, and is to be combated with relentless trolling and hyperbolic insults...."

This is classic lefty projection. French has lost his way, if he ever knew it.

wendybar म्हणाले...

Who's the right masculinity?? Sam Brinton?? What a joke the left is.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Inga swoops in and offers an example of insane leftist over-reaction.

*Oh no! Tucker Carlson.*

Years of Maddow+Hillary brain-washing demonstrate the ever-agitate bitch and moan from the blind faith left.

MayBee म्हणाले...

" “How can you be calm?” right-wing activists demand to know. “Didn’t you see that the North Face is using drag queens in its ads?”

I mean, this is what activists do. They create emergencies that have to be addressed. The people who don't like the North Face Drag Queen ads. The people who thought Jacob Blake was a hero. The people who don't want Target selling children's gay pride clothes. The people who are sure Florida is banning books.

It's really a study on why activists shouldn't have an outsized role in our society. But they do, because people like David French can write about them and politicians can fight against them or appease them and not have to do any really hard work.
But most people don't live to troll on Twitter. Most people live their lives and love all kinds of different people.

Michael K म्हणाले...


Blogger Inga said...

I’ve noticed and so have millions of women who vote. Maybe men should take a second look at who they model themselves after, before you know it you’re suntanning your testicles.


The dullard thinks "schoolboy insurrection at British Boarding schools" has something to do with masculinity. British boarding schools are best known for buggery. David French is best known for his associates at The Buggery Project.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

I’ll take pppsychological warfare for $500 Alex.

”Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency”

What is progressive pundit projection?

AMDG म्हणाले...

Blogger Inga said...
Indeed, we read it here in these comments threads often, almost daily by a few of the most vociferous rightists.

“Instead, the new right chooses to shriek about “groomers” on Twitter.


5/28/23, 9:06 AM

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The attempts to keep parents out of the information loop is on page one of the guide to grooming.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

should it not at least attempt to exhibit the best virtues of traditional masculinity?

Out of morbid curiosity... in your opinion, what are the best virtues of masculinity?

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Some of these low IQ morons want to remove the a woman's right to vote.

I want to remove a woman's ability to vote, (no one has a right to vote), and I bet my IQ is at least as high as yours.

Rabel म्हणाले...

That screenshot is from the Bee, isn't it?

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

Are men going to give up their status as men the way women gave up theirs?

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency,

How could you type that after what we have gone through the last four years?

We all have to wear masks and vote by mail or we'll all die from COVID!

We have to go back to stone age technology, or we will all die from global warming in five years!

We have to let children mutilate themselves or they'll commit suicide!

Vote Democrat, or the Republicans will put gays back in the closet, women back in the kitchen and Black people back in the fields!

Jamie म्हणाले...

Catastrophic rhetoric is omnipresent on the right....

What? Catastrophic rhetoric is important on the right? Babe an issue that the left doesn't claim - without evidence - will lead to the destruction of democracy, children, humanity, or life on earth.

Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency, and is to be combated with relentless trolling and hyperbolic insults....

Left-wing culture says that everything is an emergency and should be combated with utter destruction of the only economic system to have lifted the entire world, except in places currently at war, out of poverty and into a level of prosperity undreamt of previously.

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

Let me add context:

“The new ice age is an emergency we MUST deal with by spending billions.”
“Global warming is an emergency we MUST deal with by spending billions.”
“Climate ‘change’ is an emergency we MUST deal with by spending billions.”
“COVID is so deadly we must shut down the world and it’s an emergency we MUST deal with by spending trillions.”
“Palestine is suffering a genocide!”
“Trans people are suffering a genocide!”
“Ukraine is suffering a genocide!”
“The MAGA court is out of control we have a judicial emergency.”
“Female genital mutilation is a crime against women.”
“Female genital mutilation is my right as a toddler parent and she wants it and if you say no then we are suffering a genocide!”

Things the Right have voiced concerns over and used the E word:
- double digit inflation and soft jobs market combined for stagflation
- China openly spying on us while Joe does squat.
- a steady stream of illegal aliens numbering in the millions using our wide open border to smuggle child slaves and women slaves and contraband and those filthy weapons democrats keep trying to take from lawful Americans
- our military is going woke instead of preparing to counter China’s obvious openly declared preparations to invade Taiwan and take us on

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Ampersand म्हणाले...

My sense of it is that part of masculinity is that you don't need to be taught how to do it. It varies from man to man, and you never have to sit around wondering about it.
To fill its pages, the NYT problematizes everything. French and Goldberg have the occasional legitimate points to make, but they've been transformed into useful idiots, tools for deligitimation of the right.

ccscientist म्हणाले...

Inga thinks that conservatives are making up the "groomer" insult and cites the FL controversy. The law in question says that no instruction in sex or sexuality shall take place below (I believe) grade 5--and homosexuality is not even mentioned. Does Inga think it is good to tell kids about sex at age 8, including describing and encouraging homosexual sex? There are in fact reasons for concern. How about the parents who tried to read aloud books from the elementary school library and the school board cut off their mike? Are such books ok?

Feminists have been calling normal masculinity "toxic" for forever. They seem to want feminized men. No thanks.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

Blogger Inga said..."If you spend much time at all on right-wing social media — especially Twitter these days — or listening to right-wing news outlets, you’ll be struck by the sheer hysteria of the rhetoric, the hair-on-fire sense of emergency that seems to dominate all discourse."

I don't spend any time on "right-wing social media". I find it instructive that you do, though I don't trust you to be an accurate relayer of what's there.

But when I read of hysteria and "the hair-on-fire sense of emergency" I recall who is torching our cities. Not sure why; probably the "hair-on-fire" imagery.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"It varies from man to man, and you never have to sit around wondering about it."

French and Goldberg do. They're not men. It's why they write about it all the time.

It's like the old 'those who can't do, teach': Those men who can't 'man' write about it.

Readering म्हणाले...

Nit just the young. Old AA commenters join in.

Sally327 म्हणाले...

i'll take David French at face value, and appreciate that he hasn't written yet another article about how Christians are getting Christianity all wrong.

I can't tell, though, if he's trying to hearken back to some kind of Gary Cooper definition of what makes a man, be strong and silent, or if he's just making a call for more civility, right wing men need to be more like Tom Hanks, as an example of modern man who doesn't especially trouble anyone.

Either way French seems to be missing the point, conservatives react overtly and in a way designed to draw attention because of the belief that being quiet and relying on people like David French to figure out a way to preserve, protect and project conservative values is not a winning strategy.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

AMDG -

Like most leftists, Inga fails to see the left's groomer problem. So, you know, it must not be happening. As we know - The dutiful left *blink and nod* at "The border is secure", too.


Colorado mom sues school that recruited sixth-graders for secret after-school gender and sexuality club

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The French/Goldberg left - where do they stand on allowing men who pretend to be women - to ruin women's sports?

Michael K म्हणाले...

It's amusing to see Inga and Althouse on the same page about "toxic masculinity."

The big issue for Inga seems to be complaints about "groomers" being insulted by normals. I guess Inga likes grooming kids. Parents worried about what schools are doing with their kids are now known as "Domestic Terrorists" and Inga and maybe Althouse are all in with the FBI on this.

JAORE म्हणाले...

Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency...

I'm sure it was a famous right winger who said, "Never let a crisis go to waste".

Now just who was that guy?

Chezmiriam म्हणाले...

He's not raising his fist in front of "Trump Supporters", he's raising his fist in support of the January 6 insurrectionists. I really don't care what Hawley's opinion is of masculinity, given he's not worthy of my time. However, I will spend time on getting him out of office.

Chezmiriam म्हणाले...

You are wrong in stating that instruction is limited to those below the age of 8. That prohibition has been much expanded. And do you think kids with gay parents grow up to be monsters? Kids don't care what gender their parents or their's friends parents are. They are taught to revile people by their own parents. Nothing bad happens to kids when you explain that some kids have two parents of the same sex. That has nothing to do with teaching about the act of sex. I am curioius as to why people choose to conflate the two. "The Florida Board of Education has voted to expand restrictions on classroom instruction related to sexual orientation and gender identity.

"This amendment prohibits classroom instruction to students in pre-kindergarten through Grade 3 on sexual orientation or gender identity. For Grades 4 through 12, instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity is prohibited unless such instruction is either expressly required by state academic standards ... or is part of a reproductive health course or health lesson for which a student’s parent has the option to have his or her student not attend," according to the amendment."

MayBee म्हणाले...

Gahrie at 10:27 makes an excellent and succinct point.

Inga म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

“Black men are being murdered by cops and it’s a crisis!”
“Some random conservative wants to speak on our campus and it’s a crisis!”
“Trump insulted journ-O-lists and it’s a crisis!”
“This law professor read a case study out loud and said ‘negro’ and it’s a crisis!”
“Conservatives stopped us from banning To Kill A Mockingbird and it’s a crisis!”
“Conservatives took all the gay porn away from our elementary students and it’s a crisis!” [that’s almost a direct quote from Inga!]
“Janet Yellen is too stupid to stop saying the word ‘default’ every day and it’s a crisis!”

Oops that last one is real!

ALP म्हणाले...

Inga @ 9:06: "If you spend much time at all on right-wing social media — especially Twitter these days — or listening to right-wing news outlets, you’ll be struck by the sheer hysteria of the rhetoric, the hair-on-fire sense of emergency that seems to dominate all discourse."

Huh? Boy, am I confused. My very liberal/Democrat elderly father donated $$ to the Democratic party. For his generosity, the DLCC has flooded his email inbox with further appeals for money. So many emails that he eventually gave up using his email entirely due to the onslaught. I have taken on the task of deleting these emails on a regular basis, so I've seen hundreds of them at this point. Had I not read a few closely, I would have thought he'd gone over to the "Other side" and voted Republican. The quote I selected from your post describes these emails perfectly - to a T. The hysteria, the "sky is falling" tone - my god I'm almost convinced the Fate of Democracy is hanging by a thread, waiting to be saved by my 86-year-old father sending them another $20. What is especially upsetting is how some of these emails are designed to confuse an elderly person, as some of them are designed to seem like an ongoing conversation the target has been having with the DLCC.

The very idea that only one side engages in this kind of hysterical nonsense is, well, hysterical nonsense. Both sides do it and the fact that some can't see this is disheartening. The DLCC uses hysteria to a point it borders on criminal.

dbp म्हणाले...

After Dylan Mulvaney, is there any well-known man less masculine than David French?

Inga म्हणाले...

“The attempts to keep parents out of the information loop is on page one of the guide to grooming.”

I agree. Parent’s rights should be honored by both the left and the right. Parents should never be taken out of the loop, especially where it concerns the health of their child. This goes for counseling pregnant teen girls too, not just where it concerns trans children. Parents need to be informed about anything that concerns their child.

Florida’s HB 1557 law concerns itself with more than just parental notification.

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"The left have and continue to mock men. Ruin men. Ruin boys."

Really? How?

Free Manure While You Wait! म्हणाले...

"The people who are sure Florida is banning books."

The infamous "Don't say gay law" (how dare those evil, hateful right-wingers criminalize speech. How DARE they!11!!!1!!!).

Well, here in Progressive Minnesota, we just passed a law making it illegal to make derogatory comments about a person of color's hair. Known as the "Don't say nappy law".

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

"There ought to be a picture of David French next to the definition for pedophile in the dictionary. Not because he is one - hasn't been proven yet - but because his physiognomy is such a tropishly good match for one."

You think there's a distinctive physiognomy for pedophiles? Do you think the physiognomies of people reveal their character, thoughts, and inner drives?

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

French and Goldberg long ago sold whatever limited credibility they had as pundits on "The Right" to make more money playing fake "conservative" for the MSM. It is the Jen Rubin, David Brooks model. Very lucrative, apparently.

Free Manure While You Wait! म्हणाले...

"what are the best virtues of masculinity?"

While I certainly couldn't provide the full list, I'm pretty certain one of them is an erection lasting more than four hours.

Women hate men, but they better have a boner.

Inga म्हणाले...

Also, one more comment on Florida HB1557, as the subject of this blogpost isn’t about this law, but is about hysterical rightists.

The law is written to be very vague, this isn’t a mistake, it’s deliberate. So vague it may be unconstitutional.

Florida's anti-gay bill is wrong. It's also unconstitutional.
The extraordinary vagueness of what critics call the "Don't Say Gay" bill could have a chilling effect on the free speech rights of LGBTQ teachers and students.


“A well-drafted law would define its terms carefully. Precisely because HB 1557 does not do so, it could be read to prohibit any of these activities. Yet the U.S. Constitution does not tolerate that degree of vagueness.”

Vagueness Doctrine

Free Manure While You Wait! म्हणाले...

"We have to let children mutilate themselves or they'll commit suicide!"

That issue is so disingenuous. They claim gender affirming surgery saves lives, telling us that children who do not have the surgery have higher rates of attempted suicide than children who do. Attempted suicide is a meaningless statistic as many people who merely attempt it don't want to die. It's just a cry for attention.

What I'd like to see is stats on the successful suicides for both groups. Because that's the only stat that truly matters, because people who actually do kill themselves, really wanted to. But try as I may. I have yet to find out what it is.

walter म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
walter म्हणाले...

Inga, the purveyor of level headed discourse..invoking tanned testicles.
But then, she has and will continue to vote for child sniffing, daughter showering, dementia riddled, China compromised "Pedo Pete".
Regarding comments here, remember she called the hostess a "dumb Bitch".
Such is the level headed high ground she occupies. Hopefully there won't be any scary Boogerloo boys among the bunks of "migrants" she mist certainly has dutifully invited into her home.

Inga म्हणाले...

“I don't spend any time on "right-wing social media". I find it instructive that you do, though I don't trust you to be an accurate relayer of what's there.”

OM, that was a direct quote from David French’s opinion piece that Althouse linked to. I don’t spend any time on Twitter at all.

Leora म्हणाले...

So far as I can tell David French is wrong about everything.

Inga म्हणाले...

“Inga, the purveyor of level headed discourse..invoking tanned testicles.”

The idea of exposing testicles to red light, to increase testosterone, is from right wing hero Tucker Carlson in his Fox special “End of Men”.

walter म्हणाले...

I agree with Cookie.
Looking at Joe, you wouldn't guess him a child sniffer whose son nicknamed Pedo Pete and daughter journaled about showering with.

MayBee म्हणाले...

I agree with Inga that parents should *not* be kept out of the loop by other adults. I also agree that laws should be well-drafted.

We should be able to have decent conversations about such laws and the goals of them. But activists want us to yell at each other "You support a don't say gay law!'
"Well, you are a groomer"

Because that's what activists do. But people don't have to act like activists, and for the most part we don't.

Free Manure While You Wait! म्हणाले...

"Yet the U.S. Constitution does not tolerate that degree of vagueness."

Show me on the Constitution where the Anti-vagueness Clause resides.

Michael K म्हणाले...

The dullard is all in with the groomers. Her link reads like a groomer source. Is Sam Brinton on that editorial board ?

Daniel Putnam is a Furman Scholar at New York University School of Law. Before attending law school, he was a lecturer in philosophy at Dartmouth and a postdoctoral research associate in values and public policy at Princeton.

I wonder if this is the same guy:

Daniel Putnam is a moral and political philosopher. His dissertation, “Relating as Equals,” develops an interpretation of what it means for people to stand in a relationship of equal respect. Going forward, his research focuses on applying this account to social justice by diagnosing some of the mechanisms by which there is collective accountability for relating as unequals. Putnam also has an interest in bioethics, having published on philosophical issues related to disability. One project he will be focusing on at Princeton concerns the moral significance of inequalities in mental health: specifically, the question of when, if ever, inequalities in mental health outcomes that track social group membership are unjust.

Sounds like something the dullard would link to anyway.

Joseph Max म्हणाले...

Meanwhile, amidst all this fascinating blah and trenchant blah-blah, we shockingly discover that they are all just yakkity-yakking about the same squirm-inducing blabbity-blah they orgle and borgle about over and over, year after year -- the same never-ending stream of fusty-crusty yobbity-yobbing and hummana-hummaning, which is all they have ever done in their entire silly, useless existence, tirelessly pointing out with every yawp and yarble of breath in their lungs that "wokeness" or "CRT" or "political correctness" or "groomers" or whatever otherwise meaningless, idiotic catchphrase is being used to fleece the rubes this month, and by using a lot of high faulting' words like "calling normal masculinity "toxic" for forever" and "sanctimonious violent totalitarian zealotry", it clearly proves that the dumb crap is therefore true. Meanwhile, in the reality-based world, NOBODY CARES. Seriously, except for the usual 27% of knuckle-dragging MAGA-slaves, and the ones who know better but figure they can make bank off the (Hiya, Tucker!) NO. BODY. GIVES. A. DAMN.

Anybody who does care, that actually believes in or attaches any importance to THE WOKE THREAT (Ay-eeeeeeeee!) is a person who should not be allowed anywhere near sharp objects, heavy machinery, explody things or the human reproductive cycle.

Michael K म्हणाले...


Blogger Chezmiriam said...

You are wrong in stating that instruction is limited to those below the age of 8. That prohibition has been much expanded. And do you think kids with gay parents grow up to be monsters? Kids don't care what gender their parents or their's friends parents are.


There has been zero research on the children of gay parents. I suspect you know why. First, it can't get funded and second it would suffer the same fate as The "Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria" study.

n.n म्हणाले...

The albinophobic flags and rhetoric are carried afar from pride parades on safari, with trans/homosexuals socially distancing from trans/bisexuals, trans/neogenders, and other impure individuals in the transgender spectrum.

Trans/homosexual males groomed boys in schools, churches, scouts, etc.

Trans/socials mutilate boys and girls in Levine's dreams of Herr Mengele, contrary to the science established decades earlier that the majority will unpredictable suffer from progressive self-abortive and self-destructive intent without hope of change or reparation.

Women are denied dignity and agency and human lives are aborted by the millions, annually, globally by feminists, masculinists, and social progressive.

Kevin म्हणाले...

Civility bullshit.

When someone is over the target the call for unilateral disarmament goes out.

MacMacConnell म्हणाले...

Toxic masculinity is why you and your ancestors survived to this point in history.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"OM, that was a direct quote from David French’s opinion piece that Althouse linked to. I don’t spend any time on Twitter at all."

Oh. Sorry. A suggestion: identify it as such. I can't read the NYT article, nor can most here I suspect.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I get a kick out of the fact that Twitter is now a supposed right-wing den of iniquity. Is it really?

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"You think there's a distinctive physiognomy for pedophiles?"

Are you kidding? It's the horns and makeup, dead giveaway every time. Also the beards with serial killer smiles.

rcocean म्हणाले...

David French is Jen Rubin with less testosterone and without the bat mitzvah.

rcocean म्हणाले...

I haven't read the article by Mr. French, but did he mention he's a "true Conservative" a war veteran, and has a black son?

He usually does.

walter म्हणाले...

Joseph Max with hand waiving argument while the indoctrination drives down lower and lower in age in schools, hiding interventions from parents.
Yeah, yaeh..just blobbity blobbity yee haw etc.
Hey, how're we doing on that manifesto?
Tox Screen?
Whatevs.
Oh..sorry lonejustice..I accidentally triggered your masturbation sequence.

Sydney म्हणाले...

When I read this post, my first thought was,”David French is an asshole.” Then I noticed your tags and LOL’d.

Rusty म्हणाले...

The first rule of masculinity club is we don't talk about masculinity club. If somebody has to explain to you what masculinity is, you're a pussy.

rehajm म्हणाले...

And isn’t that the answer to French and all the others upset by the right’s recent adoption of tactics that were once the bailiwick of the left? Overreact, overextend, never back down, always demand more, boycott, cancel, scorch the earth. It’s allowed the left to drastically shift the line over the last twenty years. The right has simply learned to stop resisting and to embrace the lunacy.

One and done for this post- well done Reddington! Yes, the right has an opportunity to raise the discourse by speaking only what the left says in the mocking voice of a seven year old...the mocking voice of a seven year old. Nah nah nah nah......

AMDG म्हणाले...

It seems that the left has been on a crusade for the last 30 years to eliminate masculinity unless you are a trans girl competing in women’s sports.

Ron Winkleheimer म्हणाले...

I don't care about the 1st amendment rights of teachers in the class room, because they don't have any. They are who have been hired to teach a curriculum. That is what they are getting paid for. Since the people who actually pay the teachers are the the school districts' tax payers then they get to decide on the curriculum, which is ultimately accomplished through the election of various state and local politicians to the relevant offices.

charis म्हणाले...

Masculine is a problem to solve, and feminine is a gift to celebrate. Whiteness is a problem to solve, and blackness is a gift to celebrate.

Such is the odd cul-de-sac Western culture has reached.

Fen म्हणाले...

Chezmiriam: "That has nothing to do with teaching about the act of sex'

Liar. One of the books covered how to "eat ass"

You need to be more careful when discussing other people's children, or you will find yourself swinging next to the pedophiles

Jim at म्हणाले...

LOL.

David French.

Yeah. No.

Captain BillieBob म्हणाले...

Where on the masculinity scale does Meade fall?

Iman म्हणाले...

Fuck that fruitbat David French and the chihuahua he rode in on!

Jim at म्हणाले...

Nothing bad happens to kids when you explain that some kids have two parents of the same sex. That has nothing to do with teaching about the act of sex.

Why are they 'teaching' it at all? To gradeschoolers? Without their parents' permission?

Gahrie म्हणाले...

You think there's a distinctive physiognomy for pedophiles? Do you think the physiognomies of people reveal their character, thoughts, and inner drives?

The Progressives did the last time they showed up and fucked things up.

Political Junkie म्हणाले...

Some regulars here put me in the GOPe category. Well...I hate David French about as much as I hate the Lincoln project folks. F em.

hpudding म्हणाले...

Why are we called to loathe this man, Josh Hawley, as he "gestures toward a crowd of Donald Trump supporters"?

Because he cheered on a mob of violent insurrectionists at the Capitol before running from them in his little suit. Stephen Colbert said it best when he looked at that picture and called out “PeeWee Hermann Goering!” LOL

hpudding म्हणाले...

Republicans know a lot about pedophilia. They chose as House Speaker now-convicted pedophile Dennis Hastert. They rallied to “own the libs” with flame-artist Milo (Bruno?) Snuffleupagus - before dumping him after he talked nostalgically about the wonders of man-on-boy sex. They have Matt Gaetz, they have Gym Jordan, and whatever wrestling team rape he covered up for at Ohio State University. They’ve got a theocratic Supreme Court controlled by followers of a church that’s paid out $2 billion in child sex abuse damages perpetrated by thousands of “celibate” priests upon even greater numbers of victims. And their greatest political leader wanted to date his daughter and had to pay $5 million for sexually abusing a woman he confused with his second wife Marla Maples in a deposition.

So maybe pedophilia is a sore subject for them. And as the big-mouth party opposed to responsibility, they project that on others.

Usually you can tell what a Republican is up to and covering up for by what he spends a lot of time accusing others of doing. Forget glass houses, they live in glass McMansions.

lb म्हणाले...

i say let the left give their kids puberty blockers and dress up as the opposite sex and embrace their homosexuality. At some point that way leads to no offspring. Why fight it..people have the right to decide what is rigjt for their own children..watching drag shows, reading porn..so what if it leads to a bad outcome for their children? watch after your own kids. It truly is a free country.

Ampersand म्हणाले...

Incidentally, the linkage between suicide and transgenderism is hard to miss. Not for nothing do TGs refer to their birth name as their "dead name". TGism is a form of self-annihilation. The desire to annihilate one's self, whether frustrated or fulfilled, is at the threshold of suicide. The despair and self-hatred that is the engine and consequence of TGism will always flirt with suicide.
We have a mental health pandemic being spread by the medical and mental health professions, and by a credulous prestige press.
What depressing thoughts. I am going to try to make more optimistic comments for a while, just for the hell of it.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Tags: assholes, David French, gestures, Jonah Goldberg, Josh Hawley, masculinity, right-wing ideology

Robert Cook म्हणाले...

What Joseph Max said!

Bunkypotatohead म्हणाले...

Goldberg has spent his whole career playing frat boy. There's nothing manly about him.
And French looks like the opposite of masculinity.

Ambrose म्हणाले...

I have heard that NYT pays David French 30 pieces of silver per column.

A10pilot म्हणाले...

If Dylan Mulvaney can channel Audrey Hepburn, David French can channel Jennifer Rubin.

Anna Keppa म्हणाले...

I suspect Inga has a Resting Bitch Face....that never rests.

Anna Keppa म्हणाले...

I suspect Inga has a Resting Bitch Face....that never rests.

Anna Keppa म्हणाले...

I suspect Inga has a Resting Bitch Face....that never rests.

Jim at म्हणाले...

You'll never see a truer definition of projection than this comment:

Usually you can tell what a Republican is up to and covering up for by what he spends a lot of time accusing others of doing.

Nutbar.

Jason म्हणाले...

LOL @ "David French."

Jason म्हणाले...

"Last month, my friend Jonah Goldberg"
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!

hpudding म्हणाले...

Tell us how your party of Dennis Hasterts is going to protect children, Jim.

Greg the Class Traitor म्हणाले...

I'll give you a little of what French has to say:
Catastrophic rhetoric is omnipresent on the right


This is from the crap weasel who wrote in the NYT that Ron DeSantis could “end conservatism as we have known it.”

So, more projection from the dishonest left.

Although, what French wrote was true. The “conservatism as we have known it”is loser kabuki "conservativism" whose main goal is to always screw over actual GOP voters.

DeSantis would destroy that. Which is why French, Goldberg, and the rest of the Dispatch crowd hate him

No names, please म्हणाले...

Right-wing culture says that everything is an emergency, and is to be combated with relentless trolling and hyperbolic insults...

I noticed this development years ago when I spent lots of time in the car and would listen to the local Salem radio affiliate. Each host would, without fail, have an "outrage of the day" to fire up the faithful listeners. There was never any balance or proportion - the slightest anecdotal happening would suffice so long as it supported a conservative worldview. It's easy to see how the constant drumbeat of self-righteous indignation spread from right-wing radio to social media.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Tell us how your party of Dennis Hasterts is going to protect children, Jim.

Hastert (no "s" you ignorant slut) was punished, and his crimes not discovered until after he left politics. Now explain what happened in 1983. Dan Crane, a Republican, was censored for having sex with an underage female page. He lost re-election in 1984. Gerry Studds, a Democrat, was censored at the same time for having sex with an underage male page. He was re-elected in 1984 and continued to be re-elected until he retired in 1997.