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"Whatever you think of [Dylan] Mulvaney’s transition, or her rather cloying girlishness... [s]he traffics not in anger or cruelty, but in whimsy and joy."

"Where Matt Walsh offers enemies, Dylan Mulvaney aspires to exuberance. She suggests the possibility of making yourself, and the world, into something better, while [Matt] Walsh promises, at best, only the dour satisfaction of being right about how terrible everything is. It isn’t surprising that the kids are choosing Mulvaney over that. But Walsh is right, his followers cry. Even if he were, it wouldn’t justify his tactics. In the court of public opinion, truth is not necessarily a sufficient defense."


Also: "Conservatives... understand that bullying has cost progressivism a lot of support among moderates, including on issues surrounding transgenderism, where successful efforts to stifle public discussion of basic questions — such as 'What Is a Woman'? — have led to resentment and backlash rather than consensus...."

ADDED: I've got a new post based on some of the comments in this post. Writing that new post, I noticed my use of brackets in the post title above — "[s]he traffics not in anger or cruelty" — makes it seem as though McArdle might have used the masculine pronoun "he." No, she had "She," and I needed to switch to a lower-case "S." I just deploying brackets in the conventional way editors do when cutting down a quote. Nothing substantive.

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The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...

"[s]he traffics not in anger or cruelty, but in whimsy and joy."

At someone else's expense - jeez

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

I'm a fan. Mulvaney is running a kick ass, money making grift. It's a hilarious, over the top clown show.

The Nike sports bra video is a stitch.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

Nietzsche had it right, woman is not interested in truth. Truth is a woman. It has to be seduced.

Leland म्हणाले...

Megan McArdle in "For conservatives LOL

Kevin म्हणाले...

Conservatives... understand that bullying has cost progressivism a lot of support among moderates

But not enough support to vote against the people who bully.

So how much "support" are we really talking?

I think it's along the lines of, "I really like Trump but I wish he'd stop tweeting" loss of support.

Paul म्हणाले...

Ann,

When I was in high school, 1970 on, we had bullies to. One of 'em came up to me with his two friends and threw salt on me... then threw a punch and hit me in the jaw (with not much power.) I blinked and said, "why did you do that?" AND THEN WENT APESHIT ON HIM.

I may have been a nerd but I could, least as far as high schoolers, fight. Just blasted him. Well he and his two buddies retreated and muttered revenge.

After school, in the bus pickup lot, he came again with his two buddies. He had a board in his hand. I mentioned to my friends, "I'll jump him when he talks."

Sure enough he came and told me what all he was gonna do if I didn't kiss his butt. So while he talked I jumped him (got inside the boards range) AND THEN WENT APESHIT ON HIM AGAIN. Teachers saw this but did not intervene.

They ran off.

Next day word got around and I was the hero of the school. That guy never f*cked with me again.

And that, Ann, is how you answer a bully... not buy shooting up the school.

BTW Ann, we had guns all over the place (Town I grew up in had population of 11,000 thus small school and lots of hunters.) Never ever had a school shooting or anything like that.

Teach kids to stand up to bullies and if a fight happens.. LET THEM FIGHT!

Aggie म्हणाले...

"...he traffics not in anger or cruelty, but in whimsy and joy."

So do the drag queens, where it is just as fake. It's jarring, disgusting and disturbing nevertheless, and normal people conclude this is precisely the point of the exercise. What did Raymond Chandler call it - a 'stealthy nastiness'? He was right.

gahrie म्हणाले...

No one really cares about Mulvaney. there is no organized opposition to him as an individual. The opposition is to the movement that would cancel me for referring to Mulvaney as him. It was a boycott of Bud Light, not Mulvaney. Focusing in on Mulvaney is exactly what the Left wants you to do.

"Oh look, that nasty Republicans are being mean to poor Dylan. That's not fair! See I told you they were evil, just like Whoopi said!"

hombre म्हणाले...

WaPo has happened to Megan.

Intentionally or unintentionally, Mulvaney traffics on behalf of people who promote maiming and/or sexualizing children.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

It's surprising how little Megan McAddled understands about conservatives, considering that she used to pretend to be one. Ah, money changes everything!

gahrie म्हणाले...

Pee Wee Herman trafficked in whimsy and joy too...

(Did you know that the character's first screen appearance was in a Cheech and Chong movie?)

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

Well, Megan McArdle must know best. After all, she has a regular Washington Post column!
Is McArdlism a good name for a religion that follows her all-knowing precepts?

Laughing Fox म्हणाले...

Having seen a bunch of Mulvaney's performances, it seems to me Mulvaney traffics not in whimsy and joy but in cloying girlishness that is a satire on women. A satire that seems to me to have a lot of anger and cruelty behind it.

Mr Wibble म्हणाले...

Dylan Mulvaney is an insult, not whimsy and joy.

Rob C म्हणाले...

I don't know, and I apologize for jumping fully to the extreme here but, are we saying if we can put a cute face on something that really is wrong and quite damaging then we should embrace it instead of combating it?

The thing is that people are providing "answers" to complex questions that are causing irreversible changes in impressionable youths. We don't see states passing laws to provide sanctuary status for minors who want tattoos and those are a lot less life altering.

Ice Nine म्हणाले...

>"Dylan Mulvaney...suggests the possibility of making yourself, and the world, into something better"<

Well don't just stop there, Meg; please, explain exactly what that better world of Dylan's is.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"Stop what you are doing and think about politics, right now!" - Budweiser to its customers.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

I haven't checked personally, but my understanding is that Dylan Mulvaney has a dick, which he was born with. Which means that his "transition" is a matter of wearing a sports bra and requesting that people refer to him in a grammatically incorrect fashion.

BarrySanders20 म्हणाले...

Oh dear, oh dear. It's not just conservatives pushing back against the trans-activists. Minstrel shows were full of whimsy and joy too. And if meanness and resentment was repulsive in politics then the D's would have 10% support.

Oso Negro म्हणाले...

Perhaps Megan has something secret that she would like to share? Dylan Mulvaney may well represent the Lollipop Guild of trannies, but he aspires to be Dorothy. A cheerful deviant, but a deviant nonetheless. The Average American is sick and tired of being told what sexual deviants are to be celebrated. I’m 66 years old and I have been fucking 20-something women for the past 50 years. I’m more of a deviant by contemporary standards than Mulvaney. Where is my celebratory Bud Light can?

The Vault Dweller म्हणाले...

From the Article, But this kind of meanness alienates at least as many people as it attracts.

While I'm not sure about the numbers side of her statement, it may be less, the perceived meanness of the Right is a significant negative that makes a lot of potential allies not want to align themselves with the Right. I don't recall the specifics, but there was even a twitter exchange between JK Rowling and Matt Walsh, two people who would seemingly have a lot in common regarding trans issues, where Rowling seemed to reject any support from Matt Walsh because she thought he was mean. Ben Shapiro frequently says, "Facts don't care about your feelings." But, people certainly care about their own feelings, and usually a person's feelings about a particular person or subject will control their ultimate decision about hat person or subject. People just come up with a rationale afterwards.

J Melcher म्हणाले...

So then, sort of like the light-hearted and playful Milo Yiannopoulos?

n.n म्हणाले...

Trans/neo or trans/social? Is his change performative or sexual orientation (e.g. trans/homo)?

cassandra lite म्हणाले...

Oh, Dylan, this world was never made for one as beautiful as you.

rehajm म्हणाले...

That 'whimsy and joy' is known as duper's delight...

Caroline म्हणाले...

Want to make the world better? Live fully as you were created to be— male or female. Help restore our lost sense of duty and responsibility to create and form a new generation by marrying and supporting a family. There.

Kevin म्हणाले...

Unnecessary further evidence that McArdle, while sometimes writing well and sometimes stumbling across true things, is not conservative

phantommut म्हणाले...

One of the few times I disagree with McCardle.

I have no problem with Mulvaney. Whatever floats your boat is a big thing for me and if Dylan is happy why should that make me unhappy?

Whatever sinks your boat is also a big thing for me. Mulvaney was offered a gig and took it; the pay was good and the sponsor was very high profile. So none of this is on Dylan Mulvaney.

It is very much on Bud Light to not understand its customer base. Here's a word coined by someone to describe it: "Deplorables."

After all these years of our (I consider myself an Honorary Deplorable) "betters" taking shots at us, after all the lies around COVID-19, after the whole Keystone Kops serial comedies of that class trying to drag down the only politician in ages who treated us with respect, after "Drag Queen Story Hours" and the FBI getting all aggressive with frickin' PTA parents, Deplorables may be just a bit tetchy.

A person could be forgiven for thinking the brass at Bud Light might have done some focus groups, some market research, before going after a new market segment that doesn't even drink prole beer. But nope, once more into the breach go our woke best-and-brightest.

I get what McCardle is saying about Walsh, that he didn't need to be cruel to Mulvaney. Walsh is an actual conservative, though; and a lot of conservatives are more-than-done with the "dance, monkeys!" attitude of our latte-sipping, artisanal IPA-chugging, over-educated, under-experienced, condescending herd of "cultural influencers." Dylan Mulvaney may be a sweet kid; doesn't matter. In war sweet kids from both sides get used. And I don't think the Left is any more reluctant to call this a Culture War than is the Right.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

@Alhouse, one can surely tell when McArdle‘s brains are McAddled. Even if Dylan Mulvaney really was an avatar for “whimsy and joy,” Anhueser-Busch used him to market their beer to beer drinkers who regard themselves as manly men. Not exactly a wise move. And no one is using Matt Walsh to market beer, so it’s a false equivalence.

Birches म्हणाले...

Hahahahaha. Oh brother.

Jeff Vader म्हणाले...

I used to really enjoy McMeghans columns, this one is just silly

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

If we can't draw the line here, we can never draw a line again.

This trans business is poison in the minds of young people. It is a social contagion. It must be stopped.

This is the same tactic the Jacobins are using in the Nebraska Unicameral. Their theme is "Don't legislate hate." It sounds so sweet and loving. Who can be for hate? Only haters!

Only those with weak minds or poor educations fall for this deception.

The NE bill is like many bills that have already been passed. It simply prohibits doctors from removing healthy body parts and pumping kids full of powerful drugs. BTW, one can't change sexes. Biology is real.

The NE bill protects kids. If we can't stop medical experiments on kids - especially given the fact that they have been stopped in many European countries - then we have reached a new cultural low.

My best friend says the next step is lowering the age of consent for sex. She's right. That's the next frontier for the Left: sex with kids. Epstein was just a little early.

holdfast म्हणाले...

I don’t want to call Megan a troll, but this is really “concern trolling”.

It’s also another instance of counseling preemptive and unilateral disarmament in the culture war. Which is very convenient for the side that doesn’t disarm.

Finally, in many ways, this really is not about Mulvaney. This is about who controls major corporations that take our money. If they want our money, then they could perhaps, consider not sh@tting all over us for sport. Especially if they are trying to flog increasingly unpopular piss water.

CJinPA म्हणाले...

"In the court of public opinion, truth is not necessarily a sufficient defense."

THAT is how silence the people and transform society.

You have to hand it to these craven SOBs, they are freakin good.

Kate म्हणाले...

I stopped reading Walsh a while ago. His sense of righteous judgment leads him to cruelty. I know that's kind of his schtick, what gets him clicks, but it was too harsh for me. I agree with McArdle that his attitude is doing more harm than good.

However, if she thinks Dylan should be a role model for conservatives, she's on drugs.

madAsHell म्हणाले...

What astounds me? People pay to read that rubbish.

JK Brown म्हणाले...

Walsh, Knowles, even Brett Cooper, a lot of the Daily Wire has taken pietist bent of recent. And by that, the seeking to use the state to impose their morality on others for the pietist's salvation. It is the same as those on the Trans side seeking to use the State to impose their desired morality on others.

Most pietists took the following view: since we can't gauge an individual's morality by his following rituals or even by his professed adherence to creed, we must watch his actions and see if he is really moral.

From there the pietists concluded that it was everyone's moral duty to his own salvation to see to it that his fellow men as well as himself are kept out of temptation's path. That is, it was supposed to be the State's business to enforce compulsory morality, to create the proper moral climate for maximizing salvation. In short, instead of an individualist, the pietist now tended to become a pest, a busybody, a moral watchdog for his fellow man, and a compulsory moralist using the State to outlaw "vice" as well as crime.
-- Murray Rothbard

Progressive, Leftist, Evangelical or whatever Walsh is, those who seek to use to the State to impose morality on others all are enemies of human liberty.

Now this is a very interesting matter, and were it borne in mind by our modem legislators they would escape a good deal of unintelligent legislation; that is, the distinction between a sin and a crime. A sin is against the church, or against one's conscience; matter, therefore, for the priest, or one's spiritual adviser. A crime is an offense against other men; that is, against the state, in which all are concerned. Under the intelligent legislation of the twelfth century all matters which were sins, which concerned the conscience, were left to the church to prevent or punish. For the same reason usury was matter for the priest — because it was regarded under the doctrines of the Bible as a sin. This notion prevailed down to the early legislation of the colony of Massachusetts, though doubtless many things which were then considered sins would now be regarded as crimes, such as bigamy, for instance. The distinction is, nevertheless, a valid one, and we shall have occasion frequently to refer to it. We shall find that the defect of much of our modem legislation — prohibition laws, for instance — is that they attempt to treat as crimes, as offenses against the state, matters which are merely sins, offenses against the conscience or the individual who commits them.
-Popular Law-making: A Study of the Origin, History, and Present Tendencies of Law-making by Statute, Frederic Jesup Stimson (1910)

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

🛑 Would we say the same thing about white people wearing blackface portraying joyous simpletons? But they are so full of JOY how can you possibly hate a blackface performance?

PM म्हणाले...

"What is a woman?"
I'll handle this one.
A woman is a grown-up girl.

Iman म्हणाले...

So gay guy sees a promising grift in impersonating a ditzy version of his idea of a woman and he’s got the moral high ground?

Forget it, sane reader… it’s WaPotown…

Drago म्हणाले...

Aaaaannnd there it is: "The Conservative Case For Surrendering To The Insane Radical Trans Lobby".

Every time. Without fail.

But only every time.

rrsafety म्हणाले...

Does Mulvaney advocate for the joy of young women in sports playing on a level field? Does he advocate that 12 year old girls should have locker rooms safe from 18 year old high school men being in there? Does he believe rape crisis centers should be free of men in the spaces if that is what the female clients want? I don’t see the “joy” in any of this.

Godot म्हणाले...

Mulvaney is a client (and developing creation?) of Los Angeles based CAA -- one of the largest talent agencies in the world. It was also the agency of Harvey Weinstein and several of his female victims.

Good luck Dylan!

Dogma and Pony Show म्हणाले...

White entertainers in blackface also trafficked in whimsy and joy.

n.n म्हणाले...

Everyone should have the right to define reality to sympathize with their perception. It could be worse. He could be an abortionist, targeting adults, children, even babies... fetuses for transition.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

Dylan Mulvaney aspires to exuberance.

On camera. But it's a performance. How far does it go in her real life...when she's alone and it's quiet?

She suggests the possibility of making yourself, and the world, into something better,

She doesn't just suggest the possibility. She represents a specific avenue. But did she make her life better? Did she solve the problems she set out to solve? And at what cost? Were there other avenues open to her to make her world better? I don't know, but I wonder. It's not for me say. Dylan Mulvaney is an adult.

As for the ad campaign, I don't think most people who are unhappy about the Bud Light commercials have animosity toward Dylan Mulvaney as an individual, although the ones that do will surely be portrayed as exemplary.
For myself, I wonder why Bud Light wanted to jump into this. I don't think we understand what is going on with this sudden, huge spike in young people identifying as trans.

Is it really true that, for all of human history, until a couple years ago, we had a complete misunderstanding of human sexuality and this was due to the repressive nature of all human cultures up to this point? And that now we have embarked on a golden age of sexual self-actualization through radical surgeries and medication? And that only hateful, narrow-minded, backwards extremists would question this narrative?

Or could it be true that much of this spike is due to some kind of social contagion driven by social media? And that the phenomenon has been seized upon and amplified by ambitious people and organizations for use in a toxic, political environment?

Maybe we should wait until we have some answers before we start leveraging Dylan Mulvaney's public exuberance to gain market share while and in the process influencing troubled kids to jump on this particular bandwagon.
An ad campaign like Bud Light's can have a powerful effect on vulnerable young people and minors who may be trying to figure out if they should go down the transitioning road or not. Why would Bud Light want to come down on the side of saying to these vulnerable kids, "Yeah, transitioning is awesome! Look how happy and popular and successful and rich this person has become because she transitioned. That could be you, boys and girls!"
And they're not doing it because they care about confused and searching kids. They're doing it to sell beer. They're doing it to make money. What happened to all the liberal cynicism about the motives and intentions of big corporations? They seem to have disappeared into the same black hole as the anti-war movement and Free Tibet bumper stickers.

Personally, I wish the best for Dylan Mulvaney. I hope she's happy. I hope everyone is kind to her. I hope all her dreams for herself come true. I hope she still thinks she did the right thing in 5 years and 10 years and always. But I would caution her not to drink Bud Light unless she's in the mood for a whanging headache and doesn't want to have to wait until the next day to get one.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

For McArdle, resistance was futile.

DavidUW म्हणाले...

Why does the left want to erase women in sports?
Why does the left want to silence women by using dudes in dresses to shout them down?
Why does the left want to marginalize female only spaces by forcing them open to biological males?

Why is the left so full of hate and anger and cruelty directed towards women?

MadTownGuy म्हणाले...

From the article:

"In the court of public opinion, truth is not necessarily a sufficient defense."

Right there's your problem.

MayBee म्हणाले...

I gotta say, I don't really see the joy.

MayBee म्हणाले...

Besides, who trusts anyone who traffics in "joy"?

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

Mulvaney is no role model any parent should want their children to follow, not if they care about them. That is the hard truth. You don't create your own reality.

Ampersand म्हणाले...

The Megan McArdle brand has in the last two years been following the recent trajectory of Bud Light. She is so much better than this Pollyanna-like whitewash would suggest. Do the men in her life agree with her? Weird. Are the men in her life men, or just dialectical constructs of the notion of manhood?

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

But Walsh is right, his followers cry. Even if he were, it wouldn’t justify his tactics.

Seriously, his tactics?
If Walsh is right, there is a medical establishment growth industry getting rich by telling kids and their parents things that are untrue so they'll agree to pay big bucks to be surgically mutilated and sterilized. But Walsh's tactics are abhorrent to any right-thinking person of conscience.

McArdle's complaint isn't that Walsh is wrong, it's that Walsh being right is a buzzkill.

robother म्हणाले...

Ah yes, ads are no longer selling product, they are to provide you with role models. White male drinkers of Bud Light are contemptible, too fratty and out of touch. Adopt Dylan Mulvaney as your role model, and Budweiser will deign to let you drink their product.

MayBee म्हणाले...

People who have trafficked in joy (help me add to this list):

-Kathie Lee Gifford
-PeeWee Herman, but ironically
-Jerry from "Cheer"

Which of these people would you have babysit your children?

HoodlumDoodlum म्हणाले...

When the Left acts like bullies (heckling invited speakers, taking over and shutting down venues, shouting vile things at their opponents, etc) the Nice People like Prof. Althouse take the side of the bullies on the Left. That bad behavior is in service of a greater good, you see.

When the Right acts unkind (stating their beliefs and/or actual facts without apology) the Nice people like Prof. Althouse take the side of the Left. Conservatives should be nicer if they want to persuade anyone--if you put your arguments in nice ways they'll be given a fair hearing, we promise!

The people who defend telling a pro-life judge they hope his daughter is raped will now shame us for refusing to use someone's preferred pronouns.
The people who are STILL working tirelessly to impoverish Jack Phillips (of Masterpiece Cakeshop) now condescend and inform us we must ignore popular figures who market their degeneracy to children.

No thank you. Or rather, fuck no.
What happened to Civility Bullshit, anyway?

n.n म्हणाले...

The clinical trials from Johns Hopkins concluded that gender care therapy would unpredictably fail in the majority of subjects, failing to mitigate progress, enhancing psychiatric dysphoria, and self-abortive intent. Gender care therapy is second only to abortion in its gross and malicious violation of human rights. This is probably why the politically congruent ("=") socially distanced trans/homosexuals from others in the transgender spectrum, adopting a variation of the albinophobic symbols and rhetoric.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"Dylan Mulvaney aspires to exuberance"

Exuberant mockery of women, subversion of common sense, and in-your-face-take-that-deplorables-middle-fingerism.

Anyway, the excerpted piece nicely illustrates how the prog cult exploits women's feelings. Bad Walsh! Awful DeSantis! They should be nicer! Have better tactics! Not be so mean!

To generalize Richard Hanania's theory, in the marketplace of ideas women's feeling win.

n.n म्हणाले...

"[s]he traffics not in anger or cruelty, but in whimsy and joy."

At someone else's expense - jeez


Particularly boys and girls transitioning through puberty, and younger subjects of of politically congruent medical, surgical, and psychiatric experiments.

n.n म्हणाले...

WaPo has happened to Megan.

She transitioned from conservative to decepticon.

DavidUW म्हणाले...

Why does the left want to erase homosexuals and surgically castrate them in order to make them "straight"?

Dylan is a gay man.
He's not a woman.
Stop saying he's a she.

HoodlumDoodlum म्हणाले...

The Left has months of violent riots and causes a couple of billion dollars worth of damage to several cities and the Nice People say "a riot is the language of the unheard" as they insist we must address the purported grievances of the people committing violence.

Matt Walsh is honest about someone's actual appearance and the Nice People say that discredits his beliefs and poisons public discussion.

It's not *nice* to talk about the brutal surgeries and medical interventions people who support Mulvaney want to inflict on kids, so I guess we'd better just ignore it.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"People who have trafficked in joy (help me add to this list):"

Drug dealers

Mr Wibble म्हणाले...

She transitioned from conservative to decepticon.

She was never a conservative, just a libertarian. Once she settled down in DC she was quickly absorbed into the hive.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

I saw some Dylan Mulvaney for the first time a couple of days ago. Good grief. It's either a grift or this person is mentally ill. If it's the latter, he's being exploited by leftist activists.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Yeah, Dylan expressed shock about his dating life. Duh! What were you expecting?

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

I dunno, Ann, but I think I agree with my Barbie Pouch.

M म्हणाले...

Being the best person you were born as, marrying and having a natural family IS what conservatives and most humans have considered a positive and happy life.

What Dylan puts forward is hatred of self, hatred of natural processes and mental illness. There are fundamental truths that need to be agreed upon by any society that is stable. What a man and woman are and how babies are made is one of those truths. Leftists want constant social chaos but material stability. That can not work. Only a child would look at the world that way because the stability is created by the adults for them. They can be chaotic within the stable life the adults create. Lefty loons demanding society adopt chaos as “normal” are emotionally children. Immature and ignorant of how reality works.

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

If Walsh is right, we're using some of the most radical and damaging surgery ever performed as an unproven, largely untested treatment for mental health issues.
If Walsh is right, this trans surgery business is far worse than the lobotomy fad which lasted a couple of decades and is performed with far less symptomatic and scientific justification than lobotomies were.
But Walsh's bedside manner is the problem.

Breezy म्हणाले...

Is exuberance and joy considered part of the Bud Light brand experience? Does anyone think that Dylan actually would drink Bud Light if he weren’t being paid to so?

Michelle Dulak Thomson म्हणाले...

Oh, Megan was never "conservative." She was and is libertarian.

Re: Mulvaney, all I can say is that he doesn't traffic in "whimsy and joy." He is a sick individual who mercilessly mocks women. Which is evidently OK these days.

Seriously: Where does one go now for pictures of strong women who were born female? All the "strong women" at the moment appear to be ex-men. Which isn't terribly surprising, given that men are, on average, a lot stronger and more muscular than women, and that we aren't supposed to notice this.

I don't think Mulvaney is directly responsible for this twisted view of things, but surely he contributes to it. The female caricature he has made of himself is a hair's breadth from the equally squalid female caricatures of "Drag Queen Story Hour." Notice that there aren't women dressing up as men and reading stories to little tots. Apparently men don't deal in sparkle and glitter.

n.n म्हणाले...

traffics in whimsy and joy

So he's gay. How does he reconcile transgender (e.g. sexual orientation), trans/social (e.g. men in women's clothing), and misogyny with his alleged demeanor?

HoodlumDoodlum म्हणाले...

Nice Person Ann Althouse, one month ago: Of course, “We hope your daughters get raped!” is crude and ugly, but the right to defend one's own body has been taken away by the judges, and now, in America, a woman who has been raped may be forced to endure a pregnancy from that rape. In that context, “We hope your daughters get raped!” means: You might feel some empathy for us if it happened to someone close to you.

Of course it's crude and ugly BUT...

Walsh didn't wish violence on Mulvaney, didn't say he hopes Mulvaney is harmed for his views, didn't even say he's confident Mulvaney will suffer (in Hell, or otherwise) for the harm he's doing to impressionable children. But, oh, Walsh's meanness is too much! Walsh is bad *and* ineffective--he should embrace joy and pick better tactics.
The context of Walsh trying to fight back against a culture specifically targeting children for indoctrination that includes encouraging them to mutilate their bodies simply doesn't matter!

Those people telling a man they hope his daughters get raped, well, they're obviously saying crude and ugly things but after all that ugliness is warranted and really they're making a (valid) argument that they deserve empathy and isn't that the most important thing??

Don't call it a double standard; don't call it motivated reasoning; don't call it anything at all--just pointing it out is probably mean/cruel.

chuck म्हणाले...

Mulvaney was purposely brought in as a warrior in the Culture War, it is a bit specious to complain that he is getting shot at.

papper म्हणाले...

Using Mulvaney in an ad is a form of bullying. AB is saying Dylan Mulvaney is normal. Many people don't accept that and view DM either as a fraud or someone who needs help (or both, embrace the power of and). People are tired of being told Trans is normal.

Smilin' Jack म्हणाले...

Not seeing the big deal here. Any man who drinks light beer might as well be wearing a skirt anyway. And bearded ladies have been a staple of carnival sideshows forever. Doubt they did any permanent psychic harm to the yunguns.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Blogger hombre said...

WaPo has happened to Megan.


Yup. I used to read her stuff, back when she said she was libertarian.

bagoh20 म्हणाले...

You could say the same thing about Al Jolson and the minstrel shows. Seems we now appreciate the the scolds of old as heroes and "on the right side of history". At least Al Jolson wasn't trying to convince Blacks to cut off their genitals, or ruin the future lives of their children. Of course, he was making fun and stereotyping Blacks, just like Mulvaney and drag shows do about women.

Rusty म्हणाले...

"Where Matt Walsh offers enemies, Dylan Mulvaney aspires to exuberance."
More like cringe worthy creepiness.

Rt41Rebel म्हणाले...

"Pee Wee Herman trafficked in whimsy and joy too..."

Gutfeld has referred to Mulvaney as Pee Wee HerHim.

mgarbowski म्हणाले...

Mulvaney asks/demands that we all be complicit in a lie. It's a repudiation of truth, nature and beauty. McArdle has previously written some very cogent pieces addressing conservative thought from an outsider perspective. If she can no longer understand why conservatives oppose the repudiation of truth and beauty, I'm not sure what she offers.

DavidUW म्हणाले...

I think there needs to be a compassionate bullshit tag

Contra Leftist lies, it is not compassionate to:
1) Castrate/spay or hormonally neuter confused/mentally boys/girls.
2) Encourage drug use that converts people to criminal zombies and enables eventual suicide
3) Allow criminals to rape pillage and murder law abiding citizens
4) Tax law-abiding, employed citizens to raise those who refuse to work to a middle class lifestyle.

HoodlumDoodlum म्हणाले...

You know, it's been almost a decade since this:

The backbone of society is the married, committed couple who channel their sexuality into making and growing the next generation. Those who do other things are free to make choices, but we as a society have no reason to facilitate their choices, especially their destructive choices.

I know people like their free sex, but the expectation that the rest of us will save them from consequences is pathetic. I heartlessly laugh in their face.

---
Lame little men, whining about their meager money.

No one cares about you, because no one should!


Remember the days of laughing in people's faces and declaring that no one does nor should care about a group (men who had different values/beliefs)?
Now it's lectures about why Matt Walsh should be more delicate and not tell the deranged-seeming transexual who wants to influence little kids that it won't ever look like an attractive woman.
Guess there's a new "backbone of society" now!

Birches म्हणाले...

Why can't Matt Walsh be nicer?!?

Trans senior showers naked next to four freshman girls in Wisconsin

Mason G म्हणाले...

"I haven't checked personally, but my understanding is that Dylan Mulvaney has a dick, which he was born with."

I did an online search (not exhaustive) and it appears Dylan has had facial feminization surgery. I didn't see reports of any other surgery. Not seeing a "transition" anywhere but then again, leftists are 100% onboard with destroying the meaning of whatever words they can get their grubby paws on. See: woman.

BTW- in one article, Dylan describes the surgery in shorthand as "FFS". Sounds about right.

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Womanface... I get it. Like Oprah Jimfrey, Amos n' Andy and how about those red jacketed lawn boys holdin' the lamps at your driveway. Timeless Classics.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

Coward.

Static Ping म्हणाले...

Concern trolling.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

I agree that sometimes and even often "the right" go to far with their outrage - and often miss the target. Like Trump missing the toilet with he pees.

We should NOT be mocking all trans. (btw - I know a two trans people - one is awesome the other is angry all the time)
We should be standing up for children and women - and in particular women's sports.


Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The big business trans lobby is all about the money. Follow the money. These assholes are ruining children's/teens lives.

Pauligon59 म्हणाले...

Isn't being trans "cultural appropriation" (adopting the culture of the opposite sex)? I thought that was supposed to be a bad thing?

HoodlumDoodlum म्हणाले...

Minstrelsy is ok when its target is women, or rather girls.
That's the sickest part of Mulvaney's depravity--until quite recently he talked about this being his X day of GIRLHOOD and his "cloying girlishness" is a crass pantomime of a young/prepubescent girl.
A grown man broadcasting a fetishistic mimicry of life as a (sexualized) underage girl--and the *real* problem is not being nice enough to it.
I don't pretend to understand women's affection for this kind of degeneracy as performance but until it was used as part of an influence campaign targeted at children I, like most people, didn't really care.
Now, though: the immense harm done to children, they physical and psychological abuse they will suffer, the horrible pain and physical trauma they will endure as their breasts are removed, their genitals are cut off and rebuilt using their colons and arm skin, their lifetime of dependence on medication and later regret at their sterility and disfigurement--all of that is partially on your heads, too, Nice People.

Thank goodness we embraced Tolerance as the highest virtue--think of where we'd be otherwise!

Real American म्हणाले...

Conservatives aren't picking on the lunatics unless the lunatics force us to lie on their behalf or go along with their delusions. Some people, like Meagan McArdle, are happy to pretend that a man can magically become a woman, but it doesn't actually help anyone and really just makes things worse. It's just tribal signaling to the purple-haired pronoun police.

I'm sure most people would rather just leave these crazies alone, but they refuse to be left alone and they are trying to groom children to join their ranks. We have to draw the line somewhere and as we saw yesterday in the House, the Democrat Party refuses to stand up these crazies, even if the face of clear scientific evidence. They demand and demand and demand and when the reality-based community says enough if enough they cry that they're the real victims and are being picked on.

Sorry, if someone is crazy enough to believe that a boy can become a girl then expect some push-back including ridicule. Their beliefs are not above criticism. They're worthy of it.

This trans nonsense is a cancer on our country and the sooner we rid ourselves of it, the better off we'll all be.

Freeman Hunt म्हणाले...

"Having seen a bunch of Mulvaney's performances, it seems to me Mulvaney traffics not in whimsy and joy but in cloying girlishness that is a satire on women."

The first time I saw Mulvaney, I thought whimsy. Seeing more, my opinion has changed. There's some whimsy, but there's also something else. It's a very negative caricature of womanhood. One can certainly do a negative caricature of just about anything for comedic effect, but one shouldn't then act like it's nice and positive and happy wholesome sunshiny good fun.

Jim at म्हणाले...

Hmmm. So we conservatives need not be so mean to poor, poor Dylan. And in general.

Um, we've been nice. I mean, it's not like we went out and gunned down a bunch of grade-school kids.

mccullough म्हणाले...

Walsh, Mulvaney, and McArdle.

Irish-Americans tearing each other down.

Rosalyn C. म्हणाले...

A lot of children are impressed by the idiocy of Dylan Mulvaney not because she represents a new version of a better reality, but because she represents a refutation of reality. Dylan Mulvaney gets away with it, that's why the act is entertaining. It's like anarchy lite.

Sure Matt Walsh could be more accommodating and less brash, but he is also allowed to express himself fully here in the USA. The idea that he should modulate his speech to gain political allies is not an admirable goal. Heck, Megan McArdle, are you suggesting that maybe he should put on a dress?

walter म्हणाले...

He had Megan at "She".
Embrace the absurdity because it's wrapped in whimsy.
It's all fun and games until a child gets mutilated.
Drink that beer!

walter म्हणाले...

Lots of effort to focus on aspiring whimsician Dylan while we wait for the manifesto.
Shhhhh
(getting crowded under that rug)

HoodlumDoodlum म्हणाले...

"Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me.
6 “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. 7 Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come!


You're supposed to PROTECT the vulnerable; you're supposed to have extra care for the powerless, people at risk, children. You're supposed to do everything you can to keep children from harm. You're specifically told by God Himself not to lead the vulnerable astray!
Mulvaney et al. are corrupting children. They're selling a worldview and a lifestyle that will harm kids. The social contagion that spreads trans ideology hurts kids. If Mulvaney or whoever wants to live a life of degeneracy that's their business--if they were my friend I hope I'd try to talk them out of it, but if strangers want to live in ways I disagree with I am content to keep my mouth shut and keep out of their way; it's a free country.
When they DELIBERATELY TARGET CHILDREN and proselytize that ideology and all it entails (radical surgery, body modification, powerful medications), though, a forceful response is warranted.
The Nice People see Walsh objecting to people pouring poison in children's ears and say "hey, you need to have a more friendly tone when addressing that poisoner--you might hurt their feelings!" Madness.

~ Gordon Pasha म्हणाले...

Mulvaney traffics in "woman face", if he had pretended to be a Black man he would have been taken out and stoned.

Gator म्हणाले...

Did someone just criticize Brett Cooper? That 21 year old has more sense than 90% of people posting here.

DarktheKnight म्हणाले...

Women are currently being raped by men in dresses, and Outhouse's and MickCurdle's extreme trans insanity will lead to more women being raped by men in dresses.

Outhouse is pro-rape and sees no problem with this. What do you and MickCurdle say to the women who are being raped by men in dresses? Lay back and enjoy it?

Outhouse, just because you are mentally ill and dream of being raped because you have never had a real man in your life doesn't mean that other women should suffer because of your mental illness.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

"Only those with weak minds or poor educations fall for this deception."

I think you have identified the problem.

Dude1394 म्हणाले...

What a ridiculous article my Megan, that a mental patient should be a role model for conservatives.

John henry म्हणाले...

When was Megan ever a conservative?

I've known of her for 20 years or more. Used to be a major fanboi until she she went to WaPo she's always been a liberal (libertarian). That's why I was a fanboi.

Never a conservative afaik

John Henry

iowan2 म्हणाले...

The 'mean tweets' take down. Must ignore the substance,(women with testicles) and focus on the style of the debate. See also "Republicans pounce"

The Vault Dweller म्हणाले...

I've seen many people draw comparisons of Dylan Mulvaney to Blackface entertainers. Dylan doesn't strike me that way. A better comparison would be to Rachel Dolezal. I don't think Dylan is setting out to mock women or ridicule women in general.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

Mark Judge gets it right.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

Those Bud cans gonna be collectors items.

paminwi म्हणाले...

Dear Rosalyn, Mulvaney is not a “her”. He is a man pretending to be a woman dressing up and acting like a girl. Deviant all around IMO. And no, his act is NOT entertaining. By taking that stance you are supporting the deviance he supports.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

...but in whimsy and joy.

Self-nullification is the inevitable endpoint of feminism. You, ladies, ought to kick each other in the shins shouting, "What the fuck were you thinking?"

Václav Patrik Šulik म्हणाले...

I watched What Is a Woman - my daughter wanted to watch it and I watched it with her. It was an opinionated documentary of the kind that Michael (Roger & Me) Moore makes. He was a lot friendlier to his subjects than Moore ever was. That doesn't mean that Matt Walsh isn't mean in other venues - I don't follow him or haven't seen his stuff. So, I may defer to Megan on this. OTOH, she's a libertarian - loves the "free market" and hates morality, so I'm not surprised that she's not a fan of Walsh.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Rosalyn C. writes, "A lot of children are impressed by the idiocy of Dylan Mulvaney not because she represents a new version of a better reality..."

Dylan Mulvaney is a he.

Don't use the enemy's language. Imagine yourself as a liberal-minded German in 1932. The Nazis aren't in charge yet, but they're surging. You have Jewish friends and colleagues that you don't desire to see harmed, but you buy into Hitler's Aryan/Jew dichotomy because it's fashionable and you don't want to get pummeled by a jackbooted thug. So you start calling yourself an Aryan, thinking it's a harmless affectation that has the added benefit of contributing to political harmony. Thirteen years later you find yourself explaining to an American soldier with a Colt 45 level at your face that you were never a National Socialist, just a decent German who wanted to avoid trouble.

Don't use the enemy's language.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

The Vault Dweller writes, "I don't think Dylan is setting out to mock women or ridicule women in general."

Is blackface acceptable if it's not intended as mockery?

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

And the camp guards were always laughing and joking, and singing raucous songs after the ovens were shut off to cool for the night.

Just a bunch of goofballs really.

And don't even get me started on the Führer. What a card. A twinkle in his eye.

Who doesn't admire a vegetarian who loves animals and likes to paint a little bit on the side.

This 'final solution' stuff is just overblown...you'll see.

RoseAnne म्हणाले...

Is Mulvaney mocking women? Absolutely. Is Mulvaney doing it out of hatred of women? I don't know. Mulvaney may simply be taking advantage of the opportunity that is making so much money and not thinking very hard about HOW the money is being made. I do think the "transition" will be limited to the social transition portion.

My sister and I share the position that Mulvaney is mocking women but her complaint focuses on references to "girlhood". The Budweiser commercial is promoting "underage" drinking to her.

My complaint is with the superficiality. Even before the Budweiser commercial, I was getting the Audrey Hepburn "vibe" from Mulvaney. Has Mulvaney looked into the history of Audrey Hepburn? Sure, Hepburn played "Holly Golightly" but in her real-life girlhood, she lived in a country occupied by the Nazi armies. Her "365 days of girlhood" involved searching for food and medication to survive. Mulvaney trivializes a fascinating woman for fun and profit.

The Vault Dweller म्हणाले...



Well I think there will always be a certain amount of people upset by it, but there wasn't widespread outrage at Robert Downey Jr. when he donned blackface in the movie Tropic Thunder, which came out in 2008. While that isn't recent it isn't too long ago either. But my point is more about the motivation and intent by Mulvaney's actions. Mulvaney isn't setting out with the goal of trying to make women seem silly or worthy of ridicule. I know some people will see it that way, and I think there is broader acceptance of that view than one might expect. I read somewhere that Piers Morgan was on Maher's show and when Mulvaney came up he commented that he thought Mulvaney's actions were a misogynistic mockery of real women, and his comment apparently drew a fair amount of applause from the presumably left leaning crowd. I am just saying I don't think that is Mulvaney's intent. And when evaluating social actions I think it is more important to look at the actor's goals rather than if anyone who sees the actions takes offense.

mezzrow म्हणाले...

There is, in fact, a perfect word to describe Dylan Mulvaney. She isn’t trans or queer or subversive so much as a minstrel. She’s performing a deeply misogynistic version of a Disney princess for an audience that is uncomfortable with actual transgender people whose appearance is not monetizable and whose lives are more than gay parodies of blonde ditzes. But minstrelsy has always been lucrative — and I don’t fault Dylan for seeing an opening here, and succeeding beyond what must have been his/her wildest dreams.

What I worry about is what happens to Dylan as this buzz eventually wears off. She’s only 26, and has a lifetime to live after her 12 months of TikTok fame. The future may not be as pretty as she currently is.
- Andrew Sullivan, on his substack this week. He sees what I see.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

The nation is exhausted with trans leftist woke shove-down... and Biden family corruption.

Bender म्हणाले...

LARPer Mulvaney traffics in womanface minstrel-show mockery.

Which is nothing but malice.

Robert Marshall म्हणाले...

"Where Matt Walsh offers enemies, Dylan Mulvaney aspires to exuberance. She suggests the possibility of making yourself, and the world, into something better, while [Matt] Walsh promises, at best, only the dour satisfaction of being right about how terrible everything is. It isn’t surprising that the kids are choosing Mulvaney over that."

Kids cannot possibly understand that when you start surgically re-arranging genitals, things aren't likely to come out the happy way you perhaps imagined. These are parts of the body that depend, for proper function, on extremely sensitive nerves. Extensive medical experience with surgeries that are often necessary for survival, because of cancers, make it clear that with surgery in that part of the anatomy, preservation of the nerves is not likely.

You're not likely to be "exuberant" or "something better", or filled with whimsy and joy, after you have had your penis sliced off, turned inside out, and then tucked up into your groin, perhaps with a fake-vagina extender made out of part of your colon. The idea that a doctor could write a proper "informed consent" to this sort of ludicrous butchery, suitable for the understanding of a child, is ridiculous. As some trans-promoting surgeons may find out the hard way, when the chickens finally come home to roost, in a med-mal case.

Marcus Bressler म्हणाले...

oMG....vomit...

MarcusB. THEOLDMAN

glacial erratic म्हणाले...

The conservative case for transvestism?

wendybar म्हणाले...

The REAL war on women.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Re: Mulvaney, all I can say is that he doesn't traffic in "whimsy and joy." He is a sick individual who mercilessly mocks women. Which is evidently OK these days.

@Michelle Dulak Thomson, in the name of intersectionality feminists turn against real women.

rwnutjob म्हणाले...

He's more insensitive to women with his bullshit than someone wearing blackface is to blacks.
He hasn't even changed his name, much less cut off his unit. Once he's sucked up all that leftist money (no pun intended) & adulation he can transition back to a normal swishy gay guy. It's really offensive. Megan McArdle is an idiot.

TRISTRAM म्हणाले...

IMHO, he doesn't appear to identify as a women, but as a 11 year old girl.

Jim म्हणाले...

In Kansas, 17 year olds can’t go to a tanning salon, but they can have their breasts surgically removed. Someone has their priorities messed up and it’s not the Republicans.

lane ranger म्हणाले...

Most men would find uncontroversial the statement that "truth is more important than kindness". I suspect that most women would not agree. Until about 10 minutes ago, advocates of "truth over kindness" and "kindness over truth" were relatively balanced, so that truth had at least a fighting chance of being heard. No more. It also seems to me that we are being (successfully) trolled by the Professor.

wendybar म्हणाले...

Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
I agree that sometimes and even often "the right" go to far with their outrage - and often miss the target. Like Trump missing the toilet with he pees.


Is there EVER a day that goes by that YOU aren't obsessing over Trump. It gets tired. This subject had nothing to do with him, but YOU can't stop talking about him.

PB म्हणाले...

Mental illness is something to laugh at? Ok. Check.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

The Vault Dweller writes, "I am just saying I don't think that is Mulvaney's intent. And when evaluating social actions I think it is more important to look at the actor's goals rather than if anyone who sees the actions takes offense."

Too many assumptions, I think.

n.n म्हणाले...

I think there needs to be a compassionate bullshit tag

Empathetic bullshit, sympathetic bullshit in the spirit of civility bullshit. #HateLovesAbortion

Free Manure While You Wait! म्हणाले...

"And that, Ann, is how you answer a bully... not buy shooting up the school."

Yup. Similar experience for me. Kid bullied me for years. Finally, I said fuck it, grabbed him by the shoulders, doubled him over forward and then as hard as I could, kneed him in the face. Lots of blood. He never bothered me again.

About fifteen years later, we were working at the same multi-billion dollar corporation. I was holding a meeting in the officer's conference room. I walked in and he was there making sure there were enough chairs or flipcharts or some such thing. He saw me and was surprisingly deferential. Alost grovely. And I remember thinking that the fates had meted out accordingly

cfkane1701 म्हणाले...

"The Conservative Case for Admitting Men Can Be Women..."

Michelle Dulak Thomson म्हणाले...

Quaestor,

Is blackface acceptable if it's not intended as mockery?

Nope. Cf. composer Bright Sheng getting slammed because he played in class a video of Verdi's Othello in which the title character was in blackface. Obviously no mockery was intended there.