१७ एप्रिल, २०२३

"I have tried to be the most uncontroversial person this past year, and somehow it has made me controversial still."

"I think it comes back to the fact that these people, they don’t understand me, and anything that I do or say somehow gets taken out of context and is used against me. And it’s so sad because everything that I try to put out is positive, it’s trying to connect with others that maybe don’t understand me, it’s to make people laugh or to make a kid feel seen."

Said Dylan Mulvaney, quoted in WaPo article with the confusing title "Bud Light chief says he ‘never intended’ boycott over trans star Dylan Mulvaney" (WaPo)(who would think the Bud Light chief intended a boycott?). 

Also quoted, Donald Trump Jr.:
Speaking Thursday on his own podcast, Donald Trump Jr. called for the end of the Anheuser-Busch boycott, saying he doesn’t support “destroying an American, an iconic, company for something like this.".... "The company itself doesn’t participate in the same leftist nonsense as the other big conglomerates.... Frankly, they don’t participate in the same woke garbage that other people in the beer industry actually do.”

WaPo inserts the info: "Belgium-based InBev purchased Anheuser-Busch in 2008." Funnily, enough, some of the things that seem iconically American are not even American. Maybe it's like a transgender woman overstressing femininity. The Belgian company, wanting to identify as American, strives to express Americanness.

But what is the true femininity, and what is the true Americanness? Is it nothing at all? Is it whatever those who care about making it something make it? Is it a natural, soulful emanation from the people who possess authenticity? Is it what those at your end of the political spectrum say it is?

८२ टिप्पण्या:

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

Everywhere you go now you see it:

#LagerLovesLGBT
#Stouts4Sissies
#pedospreferpilsner
#FuckH8Hefeweizen

I guess we're just going to have to #MakeAlesGreatAgain.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"But what is the true femininity,"

That's easy. Whatever transvestites say it is. Just so long as a biological female is the one not defining it, whatever they say is female is female. That is the new rule.

Women have completely surrendered. Shocking I know. Biological females are in the passengers seat, and a bunch of angry bottoms are driving. Own it.

R C Belaire म्हणाले...

JFC. Dips**ts as far as the eye can see.

Enigma म्हणाले...

@Althouse wrote: "But what is the true femininity, and what is the true Americanness? Is it nothing at all? Is it whatever those who care about making it something make it? Is a natural, soulful emanation from the people who possess authenticity? Is it what those at your end of the political spectrum say it is??

1. There is biological sex. Reproduce or die. Male fashion and female fashion doesn't matter. Some species such as peacocks are 'naturally fashionable' but they breed. You must breed as an animal species.

2. Femininity is behavior typical of a female of a species. It varies between species, and is only probabilistic. Females get pregnant, give birth, and nurse babies, and do this across all mammals. That's the genesis of default female caregiving roles and interactive modes across all human cultures. Females who care for young tend to reproduce more effectively than those who dump babies out for the wolves (and likely those who fixate on their social media presence).

3. "Authenticity" is a self-conscious social comparison reaction. It's related to ideology, religion, politics, and many things unrelated to the fundamentals of reproduction and the roots of masculinity versus femininity.

Breathe oxygen or you will die. Eat food or you will die. Make babies or your species will die. Dress and act however you want, and have surgeries and medications to resemble the opposite sex if you want, but breed or die. If you dedicate most of your energy to social reactions and dress-up you'll have less time for breeding and fewer babies and a lower probability of a sustainable existence.

Conform to biology or enjoy one last great party before the end. Philosophical radicals may continue to claim life is a tabula rasa but this false and easily disproven. Many eco-greens may consider non-reproduction as a noble death to save Planet Earth. Let them go out in a blaze of glory, but not destroy everyone else. Logan's Run.

Xmas म्हणाले...

No matter what someone's intent actually is, if their behavior is viewed as mockery people will react negatively.

rhhardin म्हणाले...

True femininity is about the reaction of men.

BIII Zhang म्हणाले...

Dylan claimed: "these people, they don’t understand me"

What I understand is that corporations are taking advantage of a mentally ill person to make money.

Nobody is boycotting Dylan. I love Dylan. I'm praying for Dylan. He's a very, very sick man, who needs our help ... not to be trotted out to sell a beer he's never been seen drinking ever before in any of his thousands of videos. Because he doesn't drink Bud Light. They're just using him. They literally put him in a bathtub, as a female, and filmed that. That's wrong.

What Bud Light is doing is WRONG.

And for that, I won't purchase their beer any longer. That beer needs to no longer exist, so other corporations understand the price to be paid for doing these things.

wendybar म्हणाले...

Prancing around like a 12 year old girl is not trying to be uncontroversial at all. Watch the videos from You tube when he was dressed up like a boy and still acted like a moron. On the Ellen Show and on The Price is Right. It revels in the attention it gets by acting like a fool.

Humperdink म्हणाले...

My spouse and I always get a take out lunch on the way home from church on Sundays. The local redneck restaurant/ café en route home is the typical choice. Yesterday I phoned in an order for two French onion soups to go. At the check out, the lady put the soup containers in an empty Busch 6-pak box. I laughed and I said might be assaulted on my way to the car. She laughed and said they can't sell the stuff.

Great marketing strategy - alienate 50% (or more) of your customer base. I suspect it will rebound, but not 100%.

Rob C म्हणाले...

Maybe the problem is that people understand him too well. Girl-face minstrel show.

cbuds म्हणाले...

Why does it always come back to kids with them?

Bill Owens म्हणाले...

The Trumps do not understand the culture wars. Thus, Jr's statement. The fact that the right didn't engage in the culture wars for decades has, frankly, brought us to this pass. The statement by Mulvaney about 'controversy' is just a plain silly attempt at deflection that fails.

Lilly, a dog म्हणाले...

Anyone who is influenced by the words and wisdom of Donald Trump Junior should be smothered by a MyPillow.

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Dylan, a pathological liar? He's like jimmy Kimmel as Oprah Jimfrey in blackface. Gutfeld redefined Dylan as "womanface". Such mockery is tolerated.
Here's to you Rip Taylor,
our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you.

Aggie म्हणाले...

1. The boycott is probably working and AB must be getting desperate if they're calling in favors from nitwits like Trump Jr. to advocate for them. I'm noting the other GOPe nitwits that are chiming in too. AB is not your friend, just like their advocates are not your friend.

2. Dylan who?

rwnutjob म्हणाले...

Gender dysphoria affects one tenth of one percent of the population. Ask yourself why we have a 1000% increase in Transexuals in the US only.

Dylan is a transvestite fame whore cosplaying for clicks.
He has no intention of cutting off his dick.

Ellie म्हणाले...

The problem for Mulvaney is people DO understand him, and Bud Lite was the catalyst for the Perfect Storm. Tampax didn't raise the windspeed at all. Nike started a slight breeze and an occasional whitecap. But Bud Lite brought together the men who find him insulting, the women who are sick of being ridiculed by men in "womanface", and the people who object to a grown man sexualizing little girls. Mulvaney and Anheuser-Busch couldn't have found the right combination to capsize Mulvaney's boat if they had deliberately set out to do it. Anheuser-Busch is not going bankrupt over this, but Mulvaney may need a new act. He has made enough money to buy a new boat. He needs to do what real women do. Put his big girl panties on.

Kate म्हणाले...

!- Anyone earning a living through viral entertainment is not trying to be uncontroversial. They'd make no money if they did.

2- Who are "these people"? The invisible "they" want to be seen, too.

3- Junior asking to stop the boycott because the corporate conglomerate donates to conservative causes is the most tone deaf idea in the whole tempest.

4- Bud had one pure thing, the Clydesdales. Now they're a p0rn meme.

Paddy O म्हणाले...

I imagine a number of entertainers who used blackface in their work would have said much the same thing.

pacwest म्हणाले...

Peewee Herman in drag.

rehajm म्हणाले...

This story isn't a good data point for those crowing last week about the impotence of the boycott...

lonejustice म्हणाले...

I read last week that he has 10.8 million TikTok followers. To me, he's just a cartoonish character like Pee Wee Herman or Richard Simmons. But a whole lot of people seem to like his shtick.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

But what is the true femininity,"

First, tell me what a woman is.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

I agree that the reaction to AB is overdone. There was an idea circulating a few days ago that their apology wasn't good enough. It wasn't even an apology. But so what? Who do they need to apologize to? Their distributors? Sure. Their shareholders? Ok. But who else? Anybody else?

As for Mulvaney, miraculously, I am still able to completely forget about his existence except for those regrettable moments that somebody starts talking about him again. But his claim to not want to be controversial is laughable in its disingenuousness. His entire persona, his entire career is built on controversy. His rent is paid, his bed feathered, his bread buttered through skillful capitalization on controversy.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

I'm curious if the Bud Exec who pushed this ad campaign is still working. It can't be good for someone's career when something blows up badly like this.
I'm more a Spotted Cow drinker, so I don't really follow this. Is this Mulvaney person the same guy (?) who was the Nuclear Person of Biden's that got bounced out because of pretty good reasons that I don't recall?

Balfegor म्हणाले...

That's a sort of ironic quote, given that his only understanding of Bud Light's (or Nike's or whoever's) critics here seems to be the usual "they took me out of context" dodge. I think the reaction has been a bit overheated, but context isn't the problem here. The context -- both the specific context of the adverts/partnerships and the broader cultural context -- in which those companies used his image is what's created the backlash. I think he's also mistaking the target of most of the backlash. I'm sure, given the breadth of the backlash, that he's getting an avalanche of hatemail from people who didn't know he existed a month ago, but every internet personality gets that. I'm sure PewDiePie gets hatemail all the time, every day. People are mostly pissed off at the companies for promoting his image by associating it with their brands. I think only a minority actually want him kicked off Tiktok or demonetised -- in fact, although I haven't been following closely, I haven't heard of anyone pushing for that yet, although I'm sure such people exist (because they always do).

Rusty म्हणाले...

So much hate for Trump Jr.
Did he somehow not leave you satisfied?
People leading lives of make believe don't need my encouragement. Dylan Mulvaney's 15 minutes are almost up. But the damage he's done to the AB brand is permanent.

William50 म्हणाले...

What is the true Americanness?

Baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet.

At least that's what GM told me when I was a yout.

wendybar म्हणाले...

"Porter accused Riley Gaines of going after clicks, basically being a mountebank or attention whore, and that provoked Morgan to say, “I think she’s speaking to pretty much every female athlete in the world,” to more applause.

And then Bill Maher entered the conversation. Watch and enjoy, especially the part at the end where Porter shoots Piers Morgan an intense hairy eyeball stare of death because she doesn’t like sitting in the ruins of her argument."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1647627659621588992

Static Ping म्हणाले...

AB is no longer an American company. Do not invoke patriotism on me for a division of a multinational based in Belgium.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

There's no "truth" to femininity (as opposed to sex). That's obvious to me. That's why I turned it into a set of questions. You should be able to see yourself groping for the one you like — or maybe some other thing you thought up* — and then rise about this impulse and gain a higher level of insight.

_______________

* such as rhhardin's idea that femininity is what men like or I know it when I see it...

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Nobody is boycotting Dylan.

Bingo! @BIII Zhang, you are spot on. Frankly you’re thinking about him more than most of the people who’ve stopped buying Budweiser and Bud Lite will. Their takeaway is that they are being disrespected, so unlike formal, astroturfed, left wing boycotts they are merely reacting like normal human beings — if you don’t respect your customers then they’ll take their business elsewhere.

As for Anhueser-Busch, doesn’t anyone in corporate mahogany row know how to evaluate downside risk anymore? Is that something B schools dropped so they could squeeze in more courses on Diversity and Inclusion?

Jim Gust म्हणाले...

The reaction to Bud Light is not overdone or overheated. It is restrained, in fact.

The left has been normalizing perversion and demonizing American values for a long, long time. Many people are sick of it, sick of having nonsense shoved down their throats and told they have to love it. They are especially dismayed that big business has signed on to the degradation.

It's not easy to resist. The Bud Light boycott is a small first step. Perhaps if it succeeds in bringing down the brand, other businesses will reconsider promoting perversion and anti-Americanism in their advertising. Perhaps it could be a tipping point.

I am hopeful, but not optimistic.

cassandra lite म्हणाले...

"...to make a kid feel seen" by pretending to be a 12-year-old girl who has a crush on the 15-year-old boy next door.

Thought experiment: Corporations trying to demonstrate their woke bona fides through a 25-yer-old trans man who acts like a 12-year-old boy by doing a bunch of pushups before standing shirtless in front of a mirror to assess his physique...with the double mastectomy scars visible.

n.n म्हणाले...

This the year of the social progress of not woman, and the sexually liberated underage girl who aborts "burdens" in sanctuary States.

n.n म्हणाले...

Gender: masculine and feminine, are sex-correlated attributes.

Trans- refers to a state or process of divergence.

Trans/socials includes transvestites and others who dress contrary to established social schemes to normalize a favorable juxtaposition of the sexes: male and female.

gahrie म्हणाले...

I'm more a Spotted Cow drinker, so I don't really follow this. Is this Mulvaney person the same guy (?) who was the Nuclear Person of Biden's that got bounced out because of pretty good reasons that I don't recall?

No. That guy's name is Sam Brinton. He quit/got fired for stealing women's luggage from airports and wearing their clothes. He just settled the first case with no jail time.

gahrie म्हणाले...

Did an informal survey of the kids who hang out in my room before school, and about half of them knew who Mulvaney was, and none of them knew about the boycott.

gahrie म्हणाले...

Gender dysphoria affects one tenth of one percent of the population. Ask yourself why we have a 1000% increase in Transexuals in the US only.

Somer of us are old enough to remember a similar wave of anorexia twenty or thirty years ago.

Josephbleau म्हणाले...

"There's no "truth" to femininity (as opposed to sex). That's obvious to me."

It is now out in the open. It's not femininity, it's not even sex, it is human reproduction. In the end, Sociobiology has won the day. The context of male/female interaction is whatever will produce the most survivable human race.

We no longer need to worry about alpha beta bad boys and tiny swim suits, it's just all part of the same program running in the background. No more mystery, we are above the fray. But if you trick yourself into going animal, you can still enjoy it.

Jaq म्हणाले...

This whole falderal reminds me of that scene from Out of Africa where Robert Redford and Merrill Streep are flying in that plane low over the storks and flamingos, scaring them, stirring them up, and making them fly, for the couple's entertainment, when I am sure the storks and flamingos and egrets or whatever are just saying to themselves, "Why can't you just leave us in peace?"

No, there is no sanctuary from the cultural revolution, and you are going to be dragooned into fighting the culture war, on one side or the other, even if all you want to do his knock down some beers while fishing for horned pout by a fire at night by the lake on a cool spring evening, joking with your friends.

"Not allowed bigots!" cry the liberals. "Why do you hate trans people!?!"

The number one thing I dislike about both communism and fascism, as abstract ideologies, outside of the crimes committed in their names, is that they require everybody to be a "joiner," there are meetings, two-minute hates, etc, that everybody is required to attend. Nobody can be left alone under these collectivist ideologies, and that's where we are headed.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Not sure about Don Jr's take on this. Seems out of character for him.

As for being 'uncontroversial.' Really?

Getting surgically altered to look more feminine and then prancing around acting like a 6-year-old girl, all the while scoring endorsements to promote Tampax and sports bras...

Sure. Totally normal stuff.

Pull the other one...

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

'Women have completely surrendered.'

Women are far less aggressive than men by nature.

Women are ripe targets for being rolled by a bunch of aggressive men in pursuit of a sexual kink.

Women don't stand a chance in this fight unless they toughen up.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

Does anyone else find it odd that Budweiser's CEO used to work for the CIA?

Nobody?

Laurel म्हणाले...

Ann said "...and gain a higher level of insight".

Insight would lead one to wisdom.

There is no wisdom being sought by either interested party.

Narr म्हणाले...

Bud Light. They can pour it back in the unicorn.

MadisonMan म्हणाले...

@Gahrie -- thanks.

Free Manure While You Wait! म्हणाले...

What I find fascinating is that just as with abortion (100% pro, btw), not permitting children to have transition surgery is couched as "denying health care". One could say the exact same thing about lobotomies. Granted, they are not illegal, but good luck finding a surgeon who will perform one.

I also wonder what would happen if Progressives got their wish on this obvious wedge issue (because that's really what this is). What face cards would they have left to play? Plural marriage? Sibling marriage? Mandatory euthanasia at 70 (for the planet)? Doubtful.

So why not say yes, leaving them scrambling to come up with one that isn't there? Maybe if we let them blow their wad on this issue, they'll finally turn over and just go to sleep.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"what is the true femininity"

Althouse has already instructed us that there is no truth in femininity.

Taking the question not literally but seriously, you could answer that a man in womanface mocks true femininity in the sense of the actual forms of self-expression by actual women.

But if women don't dare stand up for themselves, and do not wish to claim femininity as theirs, that's their prerogative.

gilbar म्हणाले...

Blogger lonejustice either lies; or show it is mentally stupid, when it said...
I read last week that he has 10.8 million TikTok followers... a whole lot of people seem to like his shtick.

Earth to Chuck (sorry, i mean "lonejustice") 10.8 million TikTok followers is NOT "a whole lot of people",
it is small potatoes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_TikTok_accounts

Big Mike म्हणाले...

That guy's name is Sam Brinton. He quit/got fired for stealing women's luggage from airports and wearing their clothes.

Yes. One of the women he victimized is an African-born black female dress designer whose unique, one-off designs he has been photographed wearing. He has neither acknowledged the theft nor returned he stolen dressers.

He just settled the first case with no jail time.

Nor any fines. All he had to do was make financial restitution to the woman he robbed, many months after stealing her clothing. As the Russians used to say “хорошо быть членом номенклатуры” (“It is good to be a member of the Nomenklatura.”)

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

"It’s trying to connect with others that maybe don’t understand me, it’s to make people laugh or to make a kid feel seen."

I understand what he was trying to say, but I suspect that the kid who feels seen in all this is Dylan himself. If he wanted to do something for the cause, acting like a mature, responsible woman would have been more effective. Minstrels and blackface comedians may have felt that they were harmless and uncontroversial and just trying to make people laugh, but people now judge them harshly.

Ann Althouse म्हणाले...

To say there’s no “true” femininity is not to say “there is no truth in femininity”!

What is true femininity? Your answer is sure to be wrong. But there are endless ways to find truth in things. I suggest you try harder.

Enigma म्हणाले...

@Joe Smith "Women don't stand a chance in this fight unless they toughen up."

Women have historically sought protection in large groups and by linking up with the strongest males around. This includes choosing tough guy/bad boy mates, living in the harems and concubines of rulers, the convents of nuns who marry Jesus, and cults where they may have sex with a charismatic male preacher.

Women often indeed happily sacrifice for their man and their children -- think of all transgendered people as their surrogate children. Research evidence says that biological women are wired to be caring and compassionate...and this can be easily exploited.

walter म्हणाले...

"MadisonMan said...
I'm curious if the Bud Exec who pushed this ad campaign is still working. It can't be good for someone's career when something blows up badly like this.'
--
Since those pics of her doing condom shots surfaced, she got plucked by Trojan.
What's a condom shot? What's femininity? Who drinks light beer?
So many questions to ponder.
To be a fly on the wall of these marketing meetings.
Something for O'Keefe to infiltrate.

M म्हणाले...

Whatever “true femininity” is it requires one to be female. Biologically female. Able to carry a child in your womb. Female. Like any higher animal that has sexual reproduction. Female.

Michael K म्हणाले...

This whole kerfluffle brings up my theory that many big American or globalist companies with American brands are being run by executives, many foreign born, who don't understand American culture. Big marketing mistakes result, like "New Coke." The amusing part of this is that "Bud Light" is a crappy beer and is mostly drunk by a segment of the population least likely to tolerate this marketing mistake. Another example, not exactly like this one, was when Lowenbrau beer switched to a US brewer (Miller) and was no longer imported. The change in flavor was noticed immediately and the brand never recovered.

Darcy म्हणाले...

Nobody should have to say that putting a trans woman who provocatively dresses as a 12 year old to sell beer was a bad idea. So I won't. I also won't be drinking AB products.

Like it or not, the citizenry is obligated to take a stand against the promotion of insanity. The damage to an alarming number of victims is too great for decent people to look away.

Rusty म्हणाले...

Althouse said,
"But what is the true femininity, and what is the true Americanness? Is it nothing at all? Is it whatever those who care about making it something make it? Is it a natural, soulful emanation from the people who possess authenticity? Is it what those at your end of the political spectrum say it is?"
Define "Quality" or "Excellence". This getting into Persig-like ZEN territory. Feminine. Female. Those feminine qualities can't solely cultural since they existed before culture. Although I suspect culture came into existence because of the differences between feminine and masculine. So while men can imitate female qualities only women are females and possess real feminine qualities.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Another classic example of a product suicide.

In a critical miscalculation, famously known now as ‘The Schlitz Mistake,’ the company realized that while it couldn’t beat Anheuser-Busch (the brewer of Budweiser) on production, it could try to beat them on profits.

With this mission in mind, Schlitz abandoned its values and chose to cut corners on product quality to reduce costs. It did so quietly, hoping the customers wouldn’t notice the difference.


Since Bud Light is crappy beer anyway, they might survive but I doubt it.

walter म्हणाले...

" The amusing part of this is that "Bud Light" is a crappy beer and is mostly drunk by a segment of the population least likely to tolerate this marketing mistake. "
Also inexpensive beer. So...yes, some college keggers, but mostly ham and eggers.

gahrie म्हणाले...

"I have tried to be the most uncontroversial person this past year..."

Says the man pretending to be a woman with 10 million followers on TikTok and has just finished publicly celebrating 365 days of being a woman.

Darkisland म्हणाले...

RuPaul is perhaps the 2nd best dragster in the US (after John Force). I was wondering if he considered himself transgender and spent a couple minutes searching. (Not Googling)

He does not. Until a year or two ago, transgenders who had started transitioning were not permitted to compete on his long-running drag contest. When not on stage, RuPaul dresses and looks like a man. See his Wikipedia picture taken at an awards show, for example.

RuPaul is an actor who specializes in impersonating a woman. That seems very different than claiming to be a woman.

Dylan Mulvaney has a theatre arts degree and since 2017 has made his living as an actor. He is represented by CAA the top talent agents in Hollywood.

He may actually think he is female, I have no way of knowing. But the more I see of him and the more I think about it the more I think he is just another actor in drag.

This whole girlhood bit is just a gig. It seems to pay well, perhaps better than his regulare acting career does. But if he is not actually transgender, just playing a role, I salute him for a job well done.

John Henry

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Writing the previous comment gave me an idea how Bud Light could turn this whole thing around. Perhaps they should salute Mulvaney for his genius in creating a special role for himself.

Bud Lite used to have a series of ads called "Real men of genius" that were pretty catchy. Somewhat serious but light-hearted as well.

Mulvaney comes out on Twitter, TikTok etc and says "Well, my 365 days as a girl was really fun and thanks to all who played along pretending to take me seriously. But I'm not really a girl, I'm a guy."

Then, 2-3 days later while everyone is still scratching their heads, Bud Light comes out with a Real Men of Genius commercial saluting "So here's to you Mister tampon using, bra wearing little girl playing actor man. You don't just defy convention. You defy warning labels and common sense." Cue the Real Men of Genius theme music and cut to the Bud Light logo.

I think it might work to bring all the drinkers back in the fold.

Or maybe Mulvaney really is a whack job and really does think he is a teenage girl.

But if I had to bet a dollar, not more, I'd go with acting.

John Henry

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Define "Quality"

"The absence of variation."* At least in my world.

Some define it as "within specification" but many of these have never heard of the Taguchi Loss Function.

*Absence of variation is unlikely ever to be achieved. The reason I prefer it as a definition, is that it emphasizes the need to constantly work to drive out variation in a way that the "within specification" definition doesn't

John Henry

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Big marketing mistakes result, like "New Coke."

The really big mistake is thinking that New Coke was a mistake or a failure.

If you look at it as a replacement for classic or original Coke, perhaps so. Though they continued selling it for 17 years in a market where 60-70% of all new products fail in 1-3 years. So not too shabby. Not many of Coke's other brand extensions stayed on the market half that long.

But if you look at it as a clever gimmick to enhance Coca-Cola sales, it is one of the great marketing ploys of all time.

Nearly 40 years later we are still talking about it and getting the Coca-Cola brand into the discussion. Probably nobody has taken a marketing course where it was not discussed.

Nope. New Coke was no mistake.

John Henry

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Back in the late 90s I spent a week in one of the flagship breweries of one of the largest beer brands. Not Bud.

They had about 20 bottling and canning lines. Bottling lines ran 12-1500 bottles/minute. Canning lines ran about 2,000 cans/minute. They plant ran 24/7 shutting down one shift per week for deep cleaning and sanitation.

One of the things that amazed me was that they ran, in addition to their company brand in several variations, they ran about 70 other brands. Some of which they owned, most of which were under contract. One or two of which I had always thought of as imports. Several of which, like Sam Adams at the time, I thought of as small batch craft beers.

I did not get into the brewhouse but was told that they actually brewed 6 beers. A generic lite beer, a generic lager and a couple other types I don't recall. In a few cases, an additive was drizzled into the pipleline as the beer went to the filler for a bit of special taste. Otherwise Famous brand A Lite beer was the same beer as Famous Brand B lite beer. Famous brand A lager was the same beer as famous brand B lager.

You would all recognize most of the names.

John Henry

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Shortly after my stint at the brewery I was at a family reunion. My nephew said he needed to drive a couple of towns over because he could not buy Sam Adams locally. He was from Boston and told me how it was made in small batches in boston by artisans unlike that industrial beer.

When he got back, after going on for a bit about the Sam Adams and being something of a pompous ass, I mentioned I had seen it bottled, in the midwest and mentioned it was just PBR or the like with a different label.

He felt insulted and showed me the label. It said in big font
"Boston's Pride" or Boston's Hometown beer" or the like. He said that proved it was made in boston. He'd been to the small, craft, brewery and seen it made.

I showed him the small print on the label. It said "Brewed in Boston and other locations"

My assumption is that the beer comin gout of the Boston brewery is probably all sold in a 10-20 mile radius. Everything else comes from the mega-swillery in the midwest and other plants.

Same with Chanel. Labeling the perfume "Passaic" just doesn't have the same cachet as "Paris" although the perfume is made in Passaic.

Put Paris on the label and 95% of the buyers think it came from Paris.

John Henry

Darkisland म्हणाले...

Shortly after my stint at the brewery I was at a family reunion. My nephew said he needed to drive a couple of towns over because he could not buy Sam Adams locally. He was from Boston and told me how it was made in small batches in boston by artisans unlike that industrial beer.

When he got back, after going on for a bit about the Sam Adams and being something of a pompous ass, I mentioned I had seen it bottled, in the midwest and mentioned it was just PBR or the like with a different label.

He felt insulted and showed me the label. It said in big font
"Boston's Pride" or Boston's Hometown beer" or the like. He said that proved it was made in boston. He'd been to the small, craft, brewery and seen it made.

I showed him the small print on the label. It said "Brewed in Boston and other locations"

My assumption is that the beer comin gout of the Boston brewery is probably all sold in a 10-20 mile radius. Everything else comes from the mega-swillery in the midwest and other plants.

Same with Chanel. Labeling the perfume "Passaic" just doesn't have the same cachet as "Paris" although the perfume is made in Passaic.

Put Paris on the label and 95% of the buyers think it came from Paris.

John Henry

Greg the Class Traitor म्हणाले...

"I have tried to be the most uncontroversial person this past year, and somehow it has made me controversial still."
"I think it comes back to the fact that these people, they don’t understand me, and anything that I do or say somehow gets taken out of context and is used against me.


We understand you perfectly: you are, at best, a delusional freak who belongs in a mental institution

And whoever at Bud Light approved or knew about you becoming a "Bud Light Influencer" was / were delusional freaks who also belong in mental institutions.

There is no such things as gender, there is only biological sex. Were you born with a penis? Then you are male. if you have a sex change operation we will, by curtesy, pretend that you are female.

But until you've chopped your wang off, you're male. And after you've had it chopped off, you're a fake female

Greg the Class Traitor म्हणाले...

But what is the true femininity

Well, when I was growing up, "true femininity" meant "born with a vagina", and beyond that, you could do what you wanted, wear what you wanted, like or dislike whatever you wanted, and that wouldn't decrease you femininity, or make you "not a real woman"

When I was growing up, it was only the bigots who said "if you dont' like to wear dresses, then you're not a real woman"

Now it's everyone who is "pro-trans" who says that if you not completely, totally, perfectly stereotypical "1950s woman" then you're "not a real woman"

You're a "trans man" or else you're "non-binary"

It's sad that the Left simply can never give up on their racism, sexism, and other bigotries and hatreds

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Dylan Mulvney said, "And it’s so sad because everything that I try to put out is positive, it’s trying to connect with others that maybe don’t understand me..."

Nothing Dylan Mulvaney thinks, says, or does is worth the effort to understand.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

Note to Brendan Whitworth:

Try again without the codswallop.

walter म्हणाले...

Trans or drag...shitty angle for Bud Light.

Narr म्हणाले...

Living in the Pabst.

walter म्हणाले...

Wait til they re-imagine St. Pauli gyrl.

wendybar म्हणाले...

And people wonder why Conservatives think the left is going too far?? THIS is disgusting.

"NEW: A middle school principal is facing discipline for an inappropriate, “sexualized” licking game between students and staff. The video will make you sick.

How are these adults in charge of kids?"
https://twitter.com/jasonrantz/status/1647781180711002115?s=20

Dave64 म्हणाले...

Mulvaney is a con, a phony. He will never go under a knife. He's raking $$$$$ putting a teenage girl minstrel show. I bet he makes real queers and Trannies shudder.
As for that swill they try to pass off as a beer, have never drank it, my use it to wash my hands if I had to.

Joe Smith म्हणाले...

'Also inexpensive beer.'

In my neck of the woods, Bud Light is $10.99 for a 6-pack in bottles.

There is no cheap beer anymore...

Bunkypotatohead म्हणाले...

Bud lite could make amends by hiring a genuine 12 year old girl to sell their product.
That should end this brew-haha.

Old and slow म्हणाले...

Bunkypotatohead is really on a roll this morning.

FullMoon म्हणाले...

On the other hand, democrats gonna assume it is transphobic right wingers who are complaining. Therefore, they must purchase B L in quantity in order to teach 'em a lesson.

The backlash against backlash effect.