११ फेब्रुवारी, २०२३

Matt Bai knows he "should care more about Hunter Biden," but he just doesn't.

And he's telling you why in The Washington Post:
... I find it hard to get too worked up over all this, the way I did over the egregious conflicts of Donald Trump’s family during the last administration.

At least he's noticing it and admitting it publicly and feels the need to explain it (or sees some advantage in purporting to need to explain it). Whether the reasons given are sincere, we can judge for ourselves: 

Perhaps it’s because, at bottom, the whole affair seems like less of a public scandal than a family tragedy — the sad story of a lost son careening recklessly through public life, and of the anguished father who couldn’t bear to stand in his way.... 
It is serious business when a president’s family member enriches himself through relationships with foreign actors....
[But politicians' kids are] often haunted by crippling insecurity... [W]hen every door magically opens for you, it’s never really possible to know which ones you might have been able to open all by yourself. They’re befriended by people with agendas, adored and ridiculed by people they’ll never meet. It is not a normal life.... 
It must gall Biden to know that his predecessor, who never served a day in public service before becoming president, not only shrugged while his already-rich children enriched themselves further, but actually installed his dilettante daughter and-son-in-law at the highest level of policymaking.... That’s real corruption.... Biden didn’t let his son anywhere near the center of power and decision-making....

९२ टिप्पण्या:

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

"At least he's noticing it..." Yes- He's safely admitting he is a hack. Gee - what courage.

Biden family during Joe's stint as Vice President: Illegal International grift and influence peddling. hack press cannot be bothered to get worked up about it.



Lying abut the Trump family and linking Trump to Putin = Perfectly fine for the media to spread.... Because the media hate him and are so worked up about it.

RideSpaceMountain म्हणाले...

"It is serious business"

Hell yeah it is! Talk to anyone in the industry and they'll tell you 10% is way above average for big guys right now. Bidens have the best talent agency in the country right now!

Dude1394 म्हणाले...

He is full of it. Hunter enriched himself ( and Biden )like a mafia don. Trumps children first of all, lost money all over the place and secondly we’re not prior whore-mongers, drug addicts and deadbeat dads selling influence to Ukraine and others. Trumps problem was NOT being corrupt, he would have known how to play the game.

He is completely false. Pathetic excuse for a “journalist”. Goebbels level propagandist is a better description.

BIII Zhang म्हणाले...

The media is, of course, being deliberately obtuse about Hunter Biden's corruption.

Yes, it's a family affair when Hunter gets rich off his connections.

But that's not how the scam works.

You buy Hunter's painting for $500,000 ... then he rents Daddy's house for $50,000 a month. And that's how you launder a bribe to the President of the United States.

The media knows this, of course.

Lloyd W. Robertson म्हणाले...

What do the Trump haters really have on Jared and Ivanka? (Now that they're apparently forced to give up on Trump-Russia, Alfabank, "foreign emoluments," the 25th Amendment (what? what?), etc.) The $2B to Jaren from the Sheikhs--ostensibly a loan or investment? My guess is this has something to do with the Abraham Accords, a substantial advance in world peace, for which Trump and Jared deserve some credit. Matt? Hello? The various Arab countries have mostly opposed the existence of the state of Israel; the Abraham Accords establish trade relations, with an acknowledgment of Israel's right to exist. Some of the Sheikhs are probably grateful for the expanded trade relationships. Hello? Matt? Hunter's only career has been collecting bribes for his father. Matt? Are you there?

Humperdink म्हणाले...

"Perhaps it’s because, at bottom, the whole affair seems like less of a public scandal than a family tragedy"

Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees. The scandal is about The Big Guy, not some some 2-bit crack addled whoremonger.

Dude1394 म्हणाले...

I keep hearing about trumps family making money illegally from the same Russia Russia town criers. Prove it. All I saw were clothing lines being shut down, golf tournaments cancelled and legal bills. Dude didn’t even take a salary to pay for those legal bills. I hope he’s cashing his pension checks now to fend off our corrupt state.

Michael म्हणाले...

Matt is pathetic and his excuses for Hunter are pathetic. He misses the entire point. On purpose.

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

It's actually more shameful to make up such an absurd justification for an adult man's grotesque behavior, and worse yet to do so as a cover for continuing to lie about the Bidens' massive, continuing, world level fraud.

Matt Bai is the opposite of Matt Taibbi, and this column is the journalistic equivalent of the Twinkie defense.

Aggie म्हणाले...

A sincere phony. Great.

iowan2 म्हणाले...

I'm way passed finished with the broad non-specific smears.

If there are single incidents you care to debate, please lets talk. For me, I'm not interested in comparing the Trump family, with decades of international business experience to the Bidens, who's only experience is 100% dependent on Joe's influence.

The truth, Trumps only carried on things already in motion before winning an election, no one bet on Trump winning.

Shouting Thomas म्हणाले...

Hunter Biden seems to have been the point man for building bioweapons labs in Ukraine along the Russian border.

Trump was driven from office to protect Joe and Hunter Biden’s money laundering scams in Ukraine.

We being driven toward a full scale nuclear war by Hunter Biden’s actions.

Sally327 म्हणाले...

Hunter mistreats women and is a bad dad to at least one of his offspring. None of that seems to be true of the Trump boys who or Kushner. Why do lefties care more about money than they do women and children?

Jaq म्हणाले...

"Biden didn’t let his son anywhere near the center of power and decision-making..."

A lie, in this article is a picture of Hunter and Joe posing with two kleptocrats who stole hundreds of millions from Kazakstan, which Kazakstan wants back, BTW, and arranged to launder it through Biota, and it's bio-labs in Ukraine, which the administration lied about even existing.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/photo-biden-meets-hunters-alleged-partner-from-kazakhstan/

In the above article, they hadn't gotten as far as the Biota labs yet, but it's all in emails on the laptop. Anybody wants to call BS, I will be happy to provide more evidence.

Tom T. म्हणाले...

People like Bai will never forgive Kushner for successfully bringing peace to the Middle East.

Michael K म्हणाले...

The TDS is strong in this one. Trump made his money before politics, unlike 99% of DC politicians of BOTH parties. I thought the Clintons were the most corrupt Democrats until I learned about the Biden Crime Family.

FleetUSA म्हणाले...

Ah, but the WaPo audience take it all as gospel.

JAORE म्हणाले...

"Perhaps it’s because, at bottom, the whole affair seems like less of a public scandal than a family tragedy"

Ahh, we come to the point. The left is realizing Hunter is toast and the effort to hide it is failing fast. Now we have to separate anything Hunter did from dear old Dad. Nope, no payoffs, money laundering or personal enrichment. My word as a Biden.

He's just the loving Dad of a wayward boy (little scamp).

Bob Boyd म्हणाले...

You find yourself at the pinnacle of American journalism and this what you write?
And you do it day in and day out.
Pathetic. What a waste.

Goldenpause म्हणाले...

Nice of him to out himself as being an amoral shill for the left.

robother म्हणाले...

Matt Bai: Its different because Hunter wasn't officially close to the centers of power. What about Clinton putting his wife in charge of Clintoncare or JFK appointing his brother AG? Well, those were completely different, too, because [reasons].

There is a WaPO Macro on every writer's computer, It's different when WE do it. [Reasons to follow.]

rrsafety म्हणाले...

Regarding this "rich children enriched themselves further".
Is there an authoritative article on this topic?

Ambrose म्हणाले...

To me, it’s ok on a personal level to obsess over the Trumps and not care about Hunter, live and let live and all. But when you choose to be a political writer, I think you take on some obligation to care about your “beat.”

William म्हणाले...

Trump's daughter is appealing and likable. She seems to carry her wealth and privilege gracefully. Hunter Biden is a flat out degenerate. You really have to twist yourself in pretzels to find him in any way more sympathetic than Ivanka. Hunter just doesn't have any likable qualities.....At one time I was a big Kennedy fan. Not so much anymore. Ted Kennedy was the very embodiment of a spoiled scion. It pains me to say this, but it does seem that the various Bush children seem more balanced and relatable than the various Kennedy children.....The spoiled scion syndrome transcends racial and political lines. (Not class lines. It's impossible to be the spoiled scion of a working class family. I tried, but it's just impossible.) Among spoiled scions, Hunter really stands out for his utter degeneracy. He doesn't have Ted Kennedy's body count, but in every other area of moral turpitude he's stands out from all other spoiled scions.

Yancey Ward म्हणाले...

Bai conveniently overlooks the evidence from Hunter Biden's computer that he was kicking back money to his father. In other words, Joe Biden was in on the illegal graft.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"It must gall Biden to know that his predecessor, who never served a day in public service before becoming president, …"

Joe Biden's service to this country reminds me of how bulls service the cows.

Quayle म्हणाले...

The biggest scam of all is how much tuition Columbia University gets for their journalism school. Matt Bai was clearly scammed. He paid all that tuition and his journalistic justifications are no better than a three year old girl explaining why it was the baby in the bassinet that put the crayon on the walls and furniture of the house.

PB म्हणाले...

Hahaha! Biden didn't let the smartest person he knows get involved in political actions?

hombre म्हणाले...

Democrats and their mediaswine don't acknowledge the difference between innuendo and evidence, nor do they understand the gravitas of grifting with the nation's enemies.

RoseAnne म्हणाले...

Hunter Biden not only left a laptop at the repair shop but lost another one to who knows where. Ashley Biden apparently left a diary at a house where she was undergoing rehab.

I personally think they were cries for help.

Sebastian म्हणाले...

"It is serious business when a president’s family member enriches himself through relationships with foreign actors"

Hey, Matt, serious enough for prosecution? And hey, Matt, let's say Trump & Co. did the same thing: does the nature of the foreign actors make a difference?

Of course, the point is not that Hunter enriched himself, but that the foreign actors bought influence with the Big Guy.

"[But politicians' kids are] often haunted by crippling insecurity"

Well, you know, when the Big Guy expects you to bring home the foreign bacon, or showers with you while you were a girl, that tends to make you insecure. And the only way to deal with it, as we all know, is drugs and prostitution.

As others have noted, in all prog tu-quoque rationalizations, (D) is for Different.

But what was really different about Trump is that he lost money on the Prez deal. Might he be the only person in DC who did not enrich himself through government "service"?

Charlie म्हणाले...

You have my word as a Biden that nothing untoward happened......NOT A JOKE!

Jaq म्हणाले...

Remember when they used the Borat character, the kleptocrat from Kazakstan, who happily provided young girls to powerful politicians in the Republican Party to advance his interests

I wonder if Sasha Cohen is aware of the pedophilic content on the laptop, and the Kazakstan corruption into which the Bidens have dipped their beak, and it's all propaganda 101 use of projection, or if he is blissfully unaware that he has totally been used.

BUMBLE BEE म्हणाले...

Biden Family Documents?
“Please ensure that the boxes in your office in Boston remain secure in a locked space and are not accessed by anyone,” National Archives official Gary Stern wrote on Nov. 7 to Biden attorneys Patrick Moore and Bob Bauer.
Boxes... Boxes... Boxes.
How did WaPoo put that discovery?
File(s)?

Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

So the takeaway is that he was easily manipulated to “care” about Trump children but is too bored by his own empty life to care about Hunter, who he is also harboring great jealousy for. What an honorable profession journalist! Learn to code, Matt!

Oops too late. Learn to love chatbots then!

Drago म्हणाले...

Goldenpause: "Nice of him to out himself as being an amoral shill for the left."

All the Usual Suspects are simply going Full Sam Harris and openly admitting that all their lies, smears, cover ups, censoring of conservatives, weaponization of govt, defense of the indefensible etc is completely and thoroughly justified to support the dems against the "unique evil" of the republicans.

Remember, Sam Harris proudly stated he completely supported the suppression of the Hunter laptop story....because it was true and would help the republicans. Harris went even further by going Full LLR C**** and saying Hunter could have dead children in his basement and it wouldnt matter!

A decade ago admissions such as this would have caused a bit of an uncomfortable stir on the left, at least in public.

Now its the expected "respectable" default position of 99.9% of the left, dems and LLR's (but I repeat myself) and at least 1/3 of the GOPe.

rehajm म्हणाले...

Yah, this reeks like the dismissal of Rapey Bill Clinton when he was caught in a love triangle.

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

Once you are sold on the elements of a cold war against Donald Trump, as in -everything goes-nothing is out of bounds in the efforts to oust him, removing Trump, however, doesn't end the cold war. You just don't disarm, and go back to pre-war stands of fairness and both sides bla bla bla.

For now, the cause is - What if Trump comes back? We can't afford to take that chance no matter how remote it may seem. Remember how remote it was, before 2016?

Big Mike म्हणाले...

It must gall Biden to know that his predecessor not only shrugged while his already-rich children enriched themselves further

@Althouse, shame upon you and your TDS that you saw fit to include this piece of garbage in your extract from Bai’s article. Where is he evidence that the Trump children accepted bribes, let alone at the level of Biden père et fils? Is this another case of your finding it convenient to believe, despite all evidence to the contrary for the past seven years, that the likes of the Times and the Post have some basis for their assertions about Donald Trump. A touch of skepticism about everything you read in either piece of bird cage liner might help you.

Hard core Democrats might believe that the proper role of government is to provide opportunities for graft and corruption for sufficiently senior politicians who belong to their party. The rest of us — the deplorable, disrespectful normies — not so much.

n.n म्हणाले...

I wonder if Sasha Cohen is aware of the pedophilic content on the laptop, and the Kazakstan corruption into which the Bidens have dipped their beak,

Social progress. Does life intimidate art or does art imitate life?

n.n म्हणाले...

So, every money, power, speaker gig, academic appointment, library administration, or leverage scheme is equitable and inclusive?

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Maynard म्हणाले...

It must be crystal clear to anyone not a rabid partisan Democrat that the corporate media is no less than the propaganda arm of the DNC. WaPo and NYT writers are the exemplars in that respect.

They are shamelessly flacking for their side these days while calling for censorship of "disinformation" that contradicts their narrative. It was obvious to me several decades ago, but it is right in your face today.

Jersey Fled म्हणाले...

What we have here meets the clinical definition of self-deception, i.e.

a process of denying or rationalizing away the relevance, significance, or importance of opposing evidence and logical argument. Self-deception involves convincing oneself of a truth (or lack of truth) so that one does not reveal any self-knowledge of the deception.

It is a common affliction of the Left.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

Bai misses the main point. Via Hunter and Jim Biden, the President of the United States has been bribed by China and Ukraine.

Now America is paying the price for the Biden bribes. Joe let a Chinese spycraft float across the US and he's sent billions to Ukraine.

It is a big fucking deal when the President puts the interests of foreign countries over that of the United States.

Mcube म्हणाले...

Pathetic. But it is the Wash Post after all, where self-awareness and integrity goes to die.

Mcube म्हणाले...

Pathetic. But it is the Wash Post after all, where integrity dies in daylight.

Mcube म्हणाले...

Pathetic. But it is the Wash Post after all, where integrity dies in daylight.

boatbuilder म्हणाले...

He's not "noticing it." He's sending out the talking points.

Why the Hunter laptop, and the FBI, the "Intelligence Community", and the MSM (The WaPo in particular) lying and covering it up, are no big deal and we should all move on.

Because TRUMP!

As Donald himself so eloquntly put it--"Sad."

Rory म्हणाले...

1. Bully career public servants from serving the President.

2. Criticize the President for relying on amateurs.

pacwest म्हणाले...

Poor Hunter. Not really his fault with the pressure of being the son of a Great Man and all. It could happen to the best of us. But Trump and his children, that's a different story. /sarc

@MichaelK
For me the Bidens are more representative of the current state of corruption levels in our government. Second rate crooks at best. And stupid to boot. Pelosi and others were able to profit from their positions more. But the Clintons, they're the top dogs when it comes to corruption. While the Bidens were knocking over 7/11s the Clintons were robbing banks.

D.D. Driver म्हणाले...

Yes. The "real corruption" is the stuff that is open and transparent not the greasy, slimy stuff that happens in secret. That's just a tragedy.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"Hunter Biden not only left a laptop at the repair shop but lost another one to who knows where"

He left one at a shrink's office, and the FBI collected it as, presumably, a matter of national security. Weird if it has nothing to do with Joe Biden.

Gospace म्हणाले...

But once again cannot name any egregious conflicts in the Trump administration. Accusations without proof- without knowledge of what the accusations actually are, without... well, that could go forever. Versus a laptop filled with absolute proof of criminal acts.

Yep- exactly the same.

Quaestor म्हणाले...

American GI: You hid the death camps for years, denied their existence, called them Russian disinformation. But, we've seen them. We've seen the survivors, living skeletons...

Nazi apologist: The so-called death camps, Gottverdammte Scheiße!

American GI: Enough! We've seen them. We've smelled them.

Nazi apologist: Yes, some of those transit camps were mismanaged...

American GI: Death camps, you lying sack of shit! Murder factories. Designed by Nazis and built by slaves for one purpose, the extermination of the Jews.

Nazi apologist: I have this pamphlet called The Protocols of the Elders of Zion that you ought to read...

Quaestor म्हणाले...
ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.
Mike (MJB Wolf) म्हणाले...

Dear Natt Bai,

Please consider this set of facts when pondering your next column alleging to compare and contrast the Trump children vs. Hunter. Hunter has never in his life made a business deal, especially not a deal with other governments, without his father being in a key government position to assist him. The Trump children had preexisting viable contracts with a range of private entities to make and retail goods long before Trump was ever elected.

You may also want to consider the other obvious fact that you are very aware of every aspect of Trump family business because it was all widely reported and subject to partisan Democrat investigations yet are happily trumpeting your complete ignorance of Biden Family Business and citing that as a good reason to remain uninterested. A most curious pose for an alleged journalist.

Perhaps you should consider a job that does not require ethics like an accident lawyer or used car saleshuman where your well-honed skills at compartmentalization and situational shiftiness are prized assets. You are not suitable for public consumption under any type of news delivery system. AI can rewrite DNC talking points faster and better than you.

Sincerely,
MJB

Mary Beth म्हणाले...

Ever since Hunter Biden has become a national news story, I've felt a little sorry for him. He had a fractured skull in the car crash that killed his mother. I would not be surprised if that kind of head injury, especially at such a young age, caused permanent problems with his brain - poor impulse control, poor decision-making, for example.

I do not know what the personal relationship in the family was like, but from the outside, it appeared that Beau was the favorite son. He probably joined the family grift out of greed, but I could see where he would be more likely to do it in order to try to please a father who always made it clear he was second best.

I think Hunter is still accountable for what he has done, but it makes me view Joe as an abuser who manipulates his son in order to achieve his own ends, although it's probably more Jill or another family member now who's running things. The whole family seems toxic to me.

Not Sure म्हणाले...

The job of Matt Bai and his ilk isn't to bring truth to the masses. His job is to relieve the stress of cognitive dissonance that WaPo readers would have to endure if he didn't feed them comforting stories. It's preferable that these stories be at least plausible, but not necessary.

JK Brown म्हणाले...

"but actually installed his dilettante daughter and-son-in-law at the highest level of policymaking.... That’s real corruption...."

Yes, and when that son-in-law then negotiates the most significant change in Middle East peace and politics in 40 years, and I'm being generous to Jimmy Carter, that really irks the career politicians, their children and the career functionaries. How dare they do what the professionals, trained by the prior generation of failed professionals at status universities, couldn't even conceive as possible? And how did he do it? By asking the professionals in those countries what they needed and helping them work it out rather than dictating the theories of the loser American and Western European academic, as in real world, failures who haunt peace negotiations.

Randomizer म्हणाले...

The Trump allegations were indeed contemptible and serious. After about the 50th time the allegations fell through and it was clear that journalists and people inside the government were fabricating the allegations, a good brain would become more skeptical.

Sure, Trump employed his family and his own people. We should not forget that all of the Democrats and half of the Republicans were out to get Trump. He was a true outsider.

The accusations against Biden and his son are also contemptible and serious, and should be thoroughly investigated. I don't follow Matt Bai, but he c doesn't seem to be a credible voice in the national conversation.

The Vault Dweller म्हणाले...

[But politicians' kids are] often haunted by crippling insecurity... [W]hen every door magically opens for you, it’s never really possible to know which ones you might have been able to open all by yourself. They’re befriended by people with agendas, adored and ridiculed by people they’ll never meet.

Sounds like another victim of impostor syndrome.

tim maguire म्हणाले...

Hunter’s drug problems are a private issue for the Biden family. The selling of access to the president, even without the evidence that that access was delivered AND that the president may have been personally enriched, is a national security issue.

That journalists are willing to ignore the distinction of private vs. public concern partially if not entirely (although almost certainly entirely) because the Bidens are prominent Democrats, is an outrage.

Bai is worse than a hack. He is a traitor. As are all his fellow travellers.

Kevin म्हणाले...

“it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” - Upton Sinclair

Rollo म्हणाले...

Bai should have just said that he couldn't take the Biden scandals as seriously as they deserve, and leave it at that.

It's a cheap and fallacious excuse to say that Biden didn't let Hunter into the decision-making process because as VP he had no real power, but a more conscientious reporter or commentator would look into Joe and Hunter's activities, rather that just assume that they were innocent.

The greater scandal, though, is the horrible decisions Biden's made even without getting his 10% from his son.

RMc म्हणाले...

Because Trump is a Republican, and even worse, he's Trump! Biden is no prize, but at least he's not Trump. Or a Republican. Or Trump.

Michael Fitzgerald म्हणाले...

What chaps my ass is how all the leftist feminists who were so outraged by Donald Trump saying "pussy" in a private conversation 20 years ago that they organized a march on Washington are now completely silent about Hunter Biden withholding an employees salary until she made herself available for sex with him. I know the ready-made excuse they will use for their stunning hypocrisy because I've already heard it: Hunter Biden isn't running for president, Trump was. Such are the people who are Democrat Party members.

narciso म्हणाले...

he could afford his crack and other pastimes, because of the Ukrainian oligarch who looted the countries largest bank and owned Burisma, 6 billion dollars were lost including the 1.2 billion that papa biden had extorted from poroshenko, not to mention Chinese princelings, Kazakh oligarchs who participated in a coup attempt last year, Albanians who worked with said Princelings, like a one man Continental table from the John Wicks films

Lexington Green म्हणाले...

It’s like the old Onion story where the media wasn’t seeing a news peg when Obama went psychotic, heard demonic voices, and killed a bunch of people. You gutes seeing a story here? Nah, not worth writing about. Onion would not run that spoof now, sadly.

Jupiter म्हणाले...

Who is this guy Matt Bai? I kind of like the cut of his jib. Do you think he's for sale?

gadfly म्हणाले...

From Truth Social:

“According to polling [that never appeared in the media because there was no such poll], of the people who were made aware of the Hunter Biden laptop story, 53% would have changed their vote … this is the definition of election meddling … it’s collusion, it’s corruption, and it’s unconstitutional,” New York GOP Rep. Elise Stefanik — a known favorite — said.

But Trump's actions to illegally change the election results did happen.

And of course, the NY Post's tilted embellishments of the Hunter Biden laptop story were available to read for free every day on the internet

Gunner म्हणाले...

I am SHOCKED that pretend journalist and real Democrat Party flunky Matt Bai does not care about Biden corruption!

tim maguire म्हणाले...

The comments over there are depressing. I don’t know why I am still so disappointed at how mindless partisans are willing to be in defence of their party, but I am. It’s hard to accept that people can think like that and still fool themselves that they’re the good guys.

gadfly म्हणाले...

I suppose that Randomizer just missed the parts where Jared got a $1.4 billion bailout from Qatar to save the Kushner Company from default on 666 6th Avenue and another 2.0 billion from the Saudi Crown Prince for leaking information that assured that Mohammed bin Salman would keep his power.

PM म्हणाले...

"Objectivity has got to go."
Unbelievable that NSP editors would advocate it - but they do now.

Butkus51 म्हणाले...

When everybody is Sam Harris, nobody is Sam Harris.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Sure, Trump employed his family and his own people. We should not forget that all of the Democrats and half of the Republicans were out to get Trump. He was a true outsider.

After a few months, Trump realized that no one in DC could be trusted. He relied on his family too much but who could blame him? Kushner accomplished a lot in the Middle East but doubled down on the Covid nonsense.

Gadfly continues his pitiful war on the truth.

Gahrie म्हणाले...

Because Trump is a Republican, and even worse, he's Trump! Biden is no prize, but at least he's not Trump. Or a Republican. Or Trump.

I'm so old, I can remember when the Democrats gave Trump awards for his work in civil rights and for democracy.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"But Trump's actions to illegally change the election results did happen."

If it was illegal, why did Pelosi feel the need to change the law to make it illegal in the Omnibus? To make it "double illegal"? Or was it actually quite legal, just not traditional, even though lots of Democrats have objected to electoral vote counts, for instance in 2016. And did it happen?

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Gadfly poops out the talking point:
"But Trump's actions to illegally change the election results did happen."

Crap.
The vote tallies were stuffed and Trump was helpless to reveal the cheating. Not illegal.
Who is president? Your Crook - Crook Biden.

Who left office right on time Jan 21, 2021? Trump did.

effinayright म्हणाले...

gadfly said...
I suppose that Randomizer just missed the parts where Jared got a $1.4 billion bailout from Qatar to save the Kushner Company from default on 666 6th Avenue

>>>>>How is that 2011 deal "corruption" ? Trump hadn't even announced he was running. And....Arabs rescuing Jews? Whodathunkit?

and another 2.0 billion from the Saudi Crown Prince for leaking information that assured that Mohammed bin Salman would keep his power.

>>>>>what information, and now that Biden is in the WH and has called SA a pariah state, how is bin Salman "protected"?

Earnest Prole म्हणाले...

I think we can all agree our side’s double standards are really quite principled while the other side’s double standards are the rankest hypocrisy.

Drago म्हणाले...

The Poor Man's LLR Chuck, gadfly: "I suppose that Randomizer just missed the parts where Jared got a $1.4 billion bailout from Qatar to save the Kushner Company from default on 666 6th Avenue and another 2.0 billion from the Saudi Crown Prince for leaking information that assured that Mohammed bin Salman would keep his power."

LOL

Pure lunacy on parade.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Prole - how does that apply here?
It's the pro-democrat hack press who are consistent with their protection racket.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves म्हणाले...

Hunter Biden Asked Father's Top White House Aide To Help Serbian Businessman Campaign for UN Chief

hpudding म्हणाले...

Wow. I can’t tell you how glad I am to never check in to this swamp factory any more.

The crowd that says 60+ court rulings rejecting fraudulent election conspiracies by the disbarred Rudy Giuliani and disgraced Sidney Powell assures everyone that not only is Biden’s son part of a massive Ukrainian corruption scheme but that the journalist reporting on how no one cares to take their gossip seriously is somehow committing treason.

Maybe they don’t know what the word “corrupt” means. They throw it around like candy in a crack den.

Biden’s kid has a lot of personal issues but corruption isn’t just a synonym for lack of character.

In any event, in trying to find a single coherent theme amongst their many hate-filled complaints about the Bidens, I can’t identify a single one, let alone one that is credibly supported by evidence as legally improper. It’s like the African parable about the blind men trying to identify an elephant by touching different parts of its body. Each one thinks he has the answer, and it turns out they’re all wrong.

It’s a campaign of pure personal hatred toward an imperfect family by a faction with nothing to offer America.

P.S. I also read something about Trump making “his” money before being president. This is incorrect. Trump if anything lost a good deal of the money his dad Fred Trump actually made. Or at best grew the business at a lower rate of return than an average stock.

Drago म्हणाले...

hpudding: "Wow. I can’t tell you how glad I am to never check in to this swamp factory any more."

LOL

I'll just leave that right here for others to point at and laugh about.

Drago म्हणाले...

hpudding is like those thousands of dems/leftists/LLR's (but I repeat myself) who all promised to leave the US when Trump was elected and promised to abandon Twitter when Musk took over.....and we all see how that turned out.

hpudding म्हणाले...

Drago is like those thousands of right-wingers/incels/fascists (but I repeat myself) who all promised to leave the US when Biden was elected and promised to abandon his mother’s basement when the weekend rolled around.....and we all see how that turned out.

Mica म्हणाले...

I am not sure why it is difficult to admit: Jared and his play with "investments" provided ammunition to counter corrupt and crude behavior by ... well Hunter, Hillary, and, those Democrats in power in between. How is this investment qualitatively different from Hillary's son-in-law receiving money from random people suddenly praising his genius, except it is much larger in scale? Am I the only one who remembers, very early on, those attempts to sell visas by more remote in-law-relations, talking about peanuts-scale corruption? Pathetic!

It is sad, because Trump and his sons seem to be largely above board when it comes to this crude kind of political bribery and corruption, to the extent that they could not comprehend that even the "appearance of conflict" is problematic (offer to use his clubs at price, perfectly legal and legitimate, and well-meaning, but best avoided). Trump would benefit from having a full-time "naysayer" advisory position in his 2025- administration...

Tina Trent म्हणाले...

Gadfly: there were several polls with similar results. A national MRC poll after the election found that 36% of Democrats knew nothing about the Hunter laptop and evidence within about the "consultation" fee scandal, and 4.3% said they would not have voted for Biden had they known.

Considering the small victory margin in swing states, Trump likely would have won if the media had not lied about the story and social media giants had not banned discussion of it.

You are, as usual, conflating issues. The Post carried several pre-election stories confirming what we all know to be true about it now, but with near unanimously, MSM and especially DC, the Times, and multiple supposedly neutral facts checkers declared the laptop story and the information on it implicating kickbacks to Hunter for access to Biden to be either nonexistent or Russian disinformation.

By March, Rasmussen polling showed 65% of all Americans now believed the story; the Times admitted they were wrong about it, and the 65% said it was likely Biden was consulted about and possibly profited from his son's obviously fraudulent dealings overseas.

Those media, social media, and "fact-check" entities stole the election, just as they altered 2008 and 2012 when they outright lied about Obama's eight-year near-daily involvement with domestic terrorists and cops killers Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.