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"In a bid to prevent a surge of migrants at the southern border when a pandemic measure is lifted in May, the Biden administration on Tuesday announced its toughest policy yet..."
"... to crack down on unlawful entries.
The proposed rule... would presume that migrants are ineligible for asylum if they entered the country unlawfully, a significant rollback in the country’s traditional policy toward those fleeing persecution in other countries.
It would allow rapid deportation of anyone who had failed to request protection from another country while en route to the United States or who did not notify border authorities through a mobile app of their plans to seek asylum.
Administration officials said the policy would take effect on May 11 with the expected termination that day of Title 42.... Many migrants do not apply for asylum in Mexico, preferring to try their luck in the United States. The new policy was expected to erect a formidable barrier to those hoping to submit U.S. applications."
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It won't be funded or enforced.
It won't be funded or enforced.
An effing shitshow. Impeach Brandon!
Horses have left the barn, door finally locked. About 20 million horses too late. Polling data must be ugly for the Commie-Pinkos.
Pretty much guarantees criminal gangs, eh?
How much does it cost to arrest, jail, charge and release one criminal "migrant"?
Quite a legacy for "your children".
See also Malmo.
...the Biden administration on Tuesday announced its toughest policy yet...
Agreed. No policy at all is less tough than the suggestion of a shadow of a policy...
on a good day with the wind at your back.
It's amazing that Trump managed to wake up liberals to the problems of illegal immigration.
I was shocked when MSNBC(!) did a whole segment about illegal immigration and how many people were crossing the border.
Kudos to DeSantis and the other Republicans who got the idea of putting immigrants on planes and flying them to "sanctuary cities." Embarrassed the shit out of liberals.
Anti-Trump knee-jerk blind opposition continues to unwind. Was this precipitated by Eric Adams bussing a few migrants to Canada, where they were rejected by a second 'sanctuary'?
At this rate I expect the left to enshrine Trump as a saint within 5-10 years.
"Don't know what you've got until it's gone."
Joni Mitchell song: https://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=13
Cinderella song: https://www.loudersound.com/features/cinderella-dont-know-what-you-got-till-its-gone
"or who did not notify border authorities through a mobile app of their plans to seek asylum."
So all they need is a smartphone and they're in like Flynn.
Also, "would allow rapid deportation," is not exactly "require rapid deportation." Who thinks this administration would actually deport these illegals (unless they came in wearing MAGA hats)?
Things must be looking really bad for Democrats in 2024.
So if they use the app before crossing the border to notify the US authorities of their intention to apply for asylum, then none of this applies. That "or" that you put in boldface is doing a lot of work in the sentence. Use the app and none of these changes apply. Wow, that's getting pretty tough!
Six million new illegal aliens in the country during the Biden Administration. That’s the equivalent of three Nebraskas.
There's an app for that!
Fuck Idiocracy. The future is far far dumber and idiotic than man's imagination is ready for. Truth will be far stranger than fiction.
Ann, doesn't this get your "Biden is like Trump" tag?
Cosplay
Tina and I are in agreement. When we see a significant reduction in numbers then we'll celebrate.
Smoke, mirrors, some assembly required.
“Toughest policy yet”
In other words, the border wall will be made of dry tissue paper instead of wet tissue paper.
Old and Slow at 6:44 got it! Think any immigration activists will be hanging out on the Mexico side of the border with apps loaded and ready to go? And the Coyotes aren't stupid. But Biden is, and he thinks we are. And the NYT is hyping propaganda. So what are they?
Ugh.
I could swear I heard those same proposals (minus, perhaps the asylum app) from somebody during the campaign. Lets see, who was that...?
"Embarrassed the shit out of liberals."
I live in Chicago. The Libs and the North Shore Ladies ("Why can't everyone have what I have? I didn't have to work for it.") aren't embarrassed at all. They think this just demonstrates that all Republicans are worse than Hitler.
So we might have a kinda border.
Sounds a lot like the previous policy, just announced as new. Let me know when we just treat people who enter the country illegally s illegals, regardless of race, ethnicity, or country of origin. We certainly do so if they try to enter illegally at an airport.
Announced just as he announced his runaway from Afghanistan. He gives a date well in advance, which is like sending out invitations to a free-for-all. Watch the border going up to May 11.
Biden is 5 million illegals late, thousands of drug deaths late, dozens of crime filled cities late. He acts as if he's bothered by problems here in the US and hates to have to spend his time on domestic 'things', when he could spend all of his time fucking up the rest of the world as he plows into WWIII.
Maybe I just woke up angry today. Not sure yet and it's getting late.
Biden invited over 2 million "Asylum" seekers in - and they came!
now this -= because the D's are learning that citizens are sick of it. Plus - the 2+ million are enough to help them win at the ballot box.
"the country’s traditional policy"
Spit take on that one. I think that they love foisting absurd lies on us, just to see what they can get away with.
I expect the dope/human trafficking cartels will introduce an "application fee."
Basically Biden is trying to take all of Trump's issues away from him but opposition to the war.
My assumption is that Mr Five Deferments is simply lying though, but he may have had a true awakening when his neocon friends discovered that modern warfare requires an honest to goodness industrial base, that you can't order your weapons on Ali Baba, and wait for them to show up by the container load at the Port of Los Angeles.
He may also have noticed the recruiting crisis that our military is experiencing, given that nobody wants to fight for a country that its own president doesn't consider legitimate, or care about protecting its borders.
Or the simple fact that as of right now, Trump would beat him in an election. I have always assumed that they will simply steal the next election, same as the last one, maybe Joe has lost faith in the "largest voter fraud machine in history," his people put together.
Or maybe it's that his now departed chief of staff and actual POTUS, Ron Klain, didn't manage to engineer a replacement with the same exact views.
Ron Klain was using Joe Biden's political corpse as a battering ram, figuring that re-election was out of the question, so why not? Maybe now Joe is so invested in his war that he actually *wants* to be re-elected, because if he goes, the neocons will get thrown out with him.
Technically speaking doesn't every gay and woman in the Middle East have a legitimate claim for asylum in this country. George Soros and other like minded billionaires should set up processing centers in Iran and neighboring countries to facilitate this. I'm sure Iran would be just as glad to be rid of gays and restive women, and America would be strengthened by having millions of gays and restive women to bulk up its population. Such immigrants are not hetero white males and thus would do much to make America a better country. Win win for everybody.
"a significant rollback in the country’s traditional policy toward those fleeing persecution in other countries"
Now, why do they flee persecution in their own countries? Because the United States sucks the life out of them. We support the corruption that causes the persecution.
We like our drugs and cheap imported exploited labor very...very...much.
There are already plenty of NGO's & lawyers at the border to 'assist' migrants on their journey to the US. Do you think they might have smartphones? This new "formidable barrier' will be no barrier at all. AS INTENDED.
They are not enforcing existing laws, why are they going to follow a new rule?
We're desperate to help the world's most desperate, persecuted, down-trodden, helpless, starving and impoverished people, the poor people who have crawled in filthy rags and desperation to our shores in hopes of safety and salvation - aannnd, we've got this new app to help them get in!
First, I don't believe them.
Second, barn door meet horse...
Too little.
Too late.
But they will still get 'free' education, medical care, room, board, etc... and still be set free in the USA... narco-terrorist still be able to sneak in. Murders, robbers, insane, etc... still walk over the border. No idea who is coming.
How about instead BUILDING THAT WALL!!!!!
Oh yeah, the coyotes won't know how to use an app. Sure.
Oh yeah, the coyotes won't know how to use an app. Sure.
So, text ahead from Bangladesh that you are on your way, expect to enter illegally in a few months. Not much a "formidable barrier."
How many years of democrats vilifying Immigration and Customs? (ICE) - by all the usual radical extremist far left radical authoritarians like AOC and Pelosi.
Trump stepped on his dick with this issue - making his silly used car salesman promises about Mexico building the "big beautiful wall". He squandered so much. He had the right idea - but he only pissed people off with his ridiculous rhetoric.
Of course Biden and his band of corrutocrats are worse. Go listen to Biden's promise to open the border to Asylum seekers. He did so - and they all showed up. It's an abuse of the Asylum system which is in place to help only those who are fleeing persecution and death.
We don't need the Wall of china on our southern border. We need some walls - and we need strict laws and clear support of our Immigration Officers.
"It would allow rapid deportation of anyone who had failed to request protection from another country while en route to the United States or who did not notify border authorities through a mobile app of their plans to seek asylum"
As others have noted, "Biden" is eagerly embracing the power of or.
But the very fact that they have to put out this kind propaganda, at least genuflecting to the obvious notion that asylum seekers in safe third countries are abusing the system, is a tiny bit of progress. In practice, of course, the app is a red carpet.
Nothing will stop the invasion: progs want it. The Ukraine border must be defended at all costs, ours must be abandoned, also at all costs.
It is insane to think we have the funds to build the Great Wall of China on our entire Southern border.
Again - we need SOME walls and we need to purge the corrupt democrats being in charge of open borders while they lie about it.
We already have immigration laws! Laws that are ignored. We need stronger laws - like any other sovereign nation.
Sadly - the Woke authoritarian speech crime left will call you a racist if you dare desire a secure border.
Ron Klain was using Joe Biden's political corpse as a battering ram, figuring that re-election was out of the question, so why not? Maybe now Joe is so invested in his war that he actually *wants* to be re-elected, because if he goes, the neocons will get thrown out with him.
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My theory is that Joe was supposed to get BBB, Afghanistan withdrawal, and COVID vaccines as his big accomplishments in the first year of his admin. After that, he'd step back and let Harris be the face. However, Harris is a disaster, none of Biden's three accomplishments succeeded, and if Trump wins in 24 it would be an utter repudiation of Biden. He's refusing to step aside because he can't step aside.
How does identifying themselves in a mobile app help? They don't have U.S. drivers licenses or social security numbers, do they even have birth certificates showing full name and date of birth? How easy would it be to submit a small number of asylum claims, then hand out fake birth certificates?
And what's wrong with asking asylum seekers to wait in Mexico?
What?
Not Formidable barrier tag?
“Toughest yet” implies the existence of of current toughness.
I’d prefer something like “finally gives teeth to emigration policy”
iron will rust eventually if not painted perioically >> is there Tom Sawyer in WI school libraries?
iron will rust eventually if not painted perioically >> is there Tom Sawyer in WI school libraries?
Again, the MSM constantly lies about Border Security, the flooding of the USA with illegal immigrants, and Biden complete refusal to enforce the immigration laws.
The problem is the DC Republicans, Mitch, Miss Lindsey Graham, Mittens, etc. all support Biden either explicitly or behind closed doors. Trump tried to introduce some sanity, but was stymied by Ryan and McConnell.
Of course, the root problem, is the selfish nature of the american voter. If something doesn't hurt them PERSONALLY, RIGHT NOW, they don't care. They'd rather jabber about Guns or Abotion, completely oblivious to the fact that if enough migrant Democrat voters come over the border, your conseervative views on these issues won't be worth shit. The Elite are electing a new people. And they aren't stopping.
Can you legitimately write that this is Biden’s “toughest policy yet” when the policy only affects illegals who don’t have the app or don’t pay attention? Weren’t they passing out cell phones paid for by the U.S.? Does anyone expect Biden to hunt down the very few affected by this rule?
If Trump had proposed this rule the NYT would call it a meaningless rule that attempts to fool the American people into thinking he is doing something to control immigration.
Tina Trent said...
It won't be funded or enforced.
I predict "Sue and Settle"
Brandon sounds tough, but they already are funding NGO's who will sue to get this blocked.
The WH then claims "they tried"
Nancy said...
Ann, doesn't this get your "Biden is like Trump" tag?
2/22/23, 7:12 AM
Biden WISHES he was like Trump.
"Horses have left the barn, door finally locked. About 20 million horses too late."
You must be suffering a near-terminal fever dream if you belief 20 million illegal immigrants have entered the US since January 2021.
Why would anyone believe this lying regime about anything ? With the Austin destruction of the US military (begun by Obama), Putin might just decide that now is a good time for WWIII. China needs Taiwan's chip production. Anybody else notice how authoritarian regimes become less inventive ?
I agree this is largely lip service but I suspect some of the left's constituents are counting the money and recognize the economic strain leftie municipalities are suffering and/or that immigrants are receiving more in government graft than they are. Women and minorities hardest hit dontcha know....
If you wait until election season for this kind of lip service it looks hypocritical...
"Kudos to DeSantis and the other Republicans who got the idea of putting immigrants on planes and flying them to "sanctuary cities." Embarrassed the shit out of liberals."
No, it didn't. It exposed DeSantis and Abbot as being sadistic thugs, playing with the lives of desperate people (and their children), treating them like cattle. Those people were not "illegal immigrants," but legal asylum seekers. Many of them had appointments in US cities thousands of miles away from where Abbot and DeSantis transferred them after they kidnapped them. (Most illegal immigrants who try to cross our borders are either repelled and turned away at the border or are apprehended and held in detention.)
"Six million new illegal aliens in the country during the Biden Administration."
I don't think that's accurate. Can you provide citations supporting that figure?
"They think this just demonstrates that all Republicans are worse than Hitler."
Well...maybe not worse than Hitler.
So soon?
Could this have to do with House Repubs investigating border porosity?
"How about instead BUILDING THAT WALL!!!!!"
Didn't Trump already build that wall? Isn't that what he said?
I see Althouse noticed to highlight that "or". That is the only word in the entire article that matters about that "new" policy. All the migrant needs to do to get into the US is to show up at the border station having simply stated on-line that they are applying for asylum, and they will be escorted in and then released internally.
And, let's not kid ourselves- even the ones who don't follow those simple rules won't be deported if captured later. This entire policy change is a fraud.
We're desperate to help the world's most desperate, persecuted, down-trodden, helpless, starving and impoverished people, the poor people who have crawled in filthy rags and desperation to our shores in hopes of safety and salvation - aannnd, we've got this new app to help them get in!
I used to think this way, and then I did some research. It turns out that cell phone usage among the "poor" is actually pretty universal. When you trade in your old phone for a new one, that old phone ends up somewhere in the third world with a new owner. Even in India and South Africa, everyone owns a cellphone.
I sometimes wonder if I really am the last person in the world without a cellphone. Maybe I should contact Guiness...
All just in time to make it look like they’re doing something before the 2024 elections. Frauds through and through.
Its obvious the app will get around all of these super serious strict rules, guys, seriously.
Maybe people can just fly into America directly now and not use the borders.
That would remove the issue from the media.
Six million new illegal aliens in the country during the Biden Administration. That’s the equivalent of three Nebraskas.
That's a little under half the number of Black people in the United States. I don't understand why the Black community and Black leadership have allowed this to happen and to continue happening. If they think U.S. Whites are racist...
Michael said...
So we might have a kinda border.
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to be called cyber frontier
Joe Smith said...
First, I don't believe them.
Second, barn door meet horse...
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to be creative that could be ... 'barn door meet horse's backside'
“The new policy was expected to erect a formidable barrier to those hoping to submit U.S. applications.”
Barrier...hmm...you mean, like, a wall?
Send the illegals to East Palestine Ohio.
No, thats crazy talk.
If someone could attach Robert Cook to a generator, you could generate enough power to light a city.
Upthread: "Six million new illegal aliens in the country during the Biden Administration."
Robert Cook then posed this: "I don't think that's accurate. Can you provide citations supporting that figure?"
Are you kidding? Who could possibly give you or anyone an accurate number? No one knows how many your Commie-Pinkos friends invited into the country. It's millions, that we know. How's that for a citation?
Gahrie,
That's [6 million] a little under half the number of Black people in the United States. I don't understand why the Black community and Black leadership have allowed this to happen and to continue happening. If they think U.S. Whites are racist...
Nope, off by a factor of three and a half or so. Blacks are roughly 12% of a population of 330 million or thereabouts. So, closer to 40 million than 12 million.
Perhaps you were conflating this 6 million estimate with someone else's 20 million; if the latter were true, you'd be close. But that figure is almost certainly far too high, not only for Biden's two years, but likely for everything since the 1987 "amnesty."
Smilin' Jack said...
“The new policy was expected to erect a formidable barrier to those hoping to submit U.S. applications.”
Barrier...hmm...you mean, like, a wall?"
Maginot Line.
Beiden's ship of state is vast, and requires time to make a turn from: the world moves to America; to immigration is damaging my election prospects.
"I don't think that's accurate"
Well, they have only admitted to five million, so that's a big win for you on the gotcha front, but I think it's pretty safe to say that 20% got through undetected.
The proposed rule... would presume that migrants are ineligible for asylum if they entered the country unlawfully,
Which is, actually, the currently existing law and covered by treaties if they unlawfully cross a land border, as in from Mexico or Canada into the USA. They are required- by international treaties - to request asylum in the first country they reach.
Cuban refugees, and other island nations, crossing over open ocean are a whole other matter. There is no way for them to enter legally, hence that can apply for asylum. For Cuban refugees, political asylum is pretty bascially a given. Other island refugees not so much. And other island nations are- closer to other island nations. Which don't want anyone from the nations that they are fleeing. Hmm.. probably has nothing to do with racism and discrimination- that only applies to people of the caucasian persuasion in the USA. No one else anywhere in the world does that, right?
Cook -
It's millions and millions.
Note the date. 2021... it was 2 million. Since then, the problem has only worsened. You seem to be in denial.
Cook - You don't want it to be accurate because you have faith in the lair press and the lairs who make up most of the democrat party.
Arizona has a significant number of electoral votes.
Way to spam a thread Cookie! Have you written your new definition of woke yet? You should share it so we can compare it to Marx.
I'm thinking the busses to DC, Philadelphia, Chicago, New York, etc., etc and the plane to Martha's Vineyard may have had an effect.
"Liars"
erk
I wish "An Enemy of the People" was performed more frequently - it's considerably more relevant to the present day than "A Doll's House."
“It is insane to think we have the funds to build the Great Wall of China on our entire Southern border.”
Of course. A minefield is the way to go. They’re cheap, and you don’t need a lot to make a very effective deterrent.
But that figure is almost certainly far too high, not only for Biden's two years, but likely for everything since the 1987 "amnesty."
Maybe "too high" for now, but just wait. Blacks seem to favor aborting their babies. Hispanics? Not so much.
Right Cookie.
Neither do we have accurate number of deaths or rapes en route to Joementia's paradise.
Joementia promised to enable a "surge" at the border.
The least you could do is take in a few into your Manhattan digs.
"No, it didn't. It exposed DeSantis and Abbot as being sadistic thugs, playing with the lives of desperate people (and their children), treating them like cattle. "
You're wrong as always. It exposed the Biden administration for allowing cartels to enslave millions into sex, drug, and labor slavery. It exposed people like you who claim to want immigrants into admitting that you don't want them where you live. It exposed Nancy Pelosi who flat out stated that they are here to pick crops. You are wrong every single time you post, but for some reason that I can't fathom, you are given slightly more intellectual respect than Inga, Chuck, et al. Maybe it's because you can post in complete sentences with words more than two syllables.
So, is Biden in Ukraine to cover-up his role in Obama's World War Spring with "benefits"?
Y'all be nice to Cookie! He's my friend!
"Sadistic thugs"?
But it's OK for the Biden admin to deliver thousands of illegal entrants to secret cities in secret in the dead of night.
Immigration reform in lieu of emigration reform.
So. Robert. How many of these immigrants are staying in your home?
Rusty said...
So. Robert. How many of these immigrants are staying in your home?
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Neck and neck with Inga.
Wasn’t the policy to require migrants to apply for asylum in the first safe country they entered a Trump policy?
"... to crack down on unlawful entries. The proposed rule... would presume that migrants are ineligible for asylum if they entered the country unlawfully, a significant rollback in the country’s traditional policy toward those fleeing persecution in other countries
Bzzt.
If you were in fact a legitimate refugee fleeing persecution, you'd show up and say that.
If you say that only when you're caught, your'e lying
It would allow rapid deportation of anyone who had failed to request protection from another country while en route to the United States
If you are a refugee fleeing persecution in country A, then so long as A is not Mexico, you've excaped that persecution be getting to Mexico.
If your'e still coming to the US, it's because you're an economic "immigrant", not a "refugee"
who did not notify border authorities through a mobile app of their plans to seek asylum
Why would an honest refugee NOT want to tell the US that?
Many migrants do not apply for asylum in Mexico, preferring to try their luck in the United States.
Because they're economic immigrants, not refugees
The new policy was expected to erect a formidable barrier to those hoping to submit U.S. applications."
No, it's not going to do a damn thing. because they'll show up, say they're a "refugee", and then immediately be released into the US, never to be heard from again
Because the policy is Kabuki, and the NYT is just playing their part in the fraud.
Until the Biden Admin is willing to follow the law, and not just release people into the US, nothing else matters
The message from the whiners is:
We supported the Democrats in their lies about Jan 6, and are upset that the fraud is benign dispelled.
I appreciate creatures like Dan Crenshaw speaking up, and letting the rest of us know that they are utter scum
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