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Musk adds support to my hypothesis.

Me, in the previous post

Hypothesis: He didn't really have the story he wanted, so he went all out to churn traffic on Twitter.

Maybe he intentionally gets things wrong so his antagonists will tweet to correct him. And then everyone can fight about that. What a happening place Twitter is! Let's all go tweet little bits and pieces and see who wins or who's funnier or meaner. And that's how Musk wins. It's not about getting to the truth, but getting everyone on Twitter, tweeting one thing after another. 

Musk, just now:

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Kevin म्हणाले...

Love the graphic.

Very Apple, 1984.

Jaq म्हणाले...

It wasn’t the government using its official powers, that came out, and it also came out that there was never any legal finding of a hack, which the policy under which the laptop was banned required. Still the entire mainstream press, including your New York Times, simply went along with a rogue decision from a senior executive who did not tell her boss, that almost certainly swung an election and left us with a man in charge who refused to negotiate over Ukraine, a country with which he has corrupt ties, and now we are on the brink of WW3, as Joe Biden has staked our military prestige on a civil war on Russia’s border.

Chris N म्हणाले...

If you just bought a platform which is hemorrhaging money, but which had replaced the old AP wire, wouldn’t you do the same? He probably can’t afford not to.

I’m grateful he’s an engineer and a salesman who seems to respect property, speech and legal protections much more than the ‘Trust & Safety Council’

And much more than Bezos, who probably can’t afford not to but went for the captured WaPo; and who won’t stand up to the woke-scolds and true-believers.

Release your inner artist and cruelly neutral observer, allowing her to combat the humorless feminist within, and the present struggles make more sense.

Time will tell.

Breezy म्हणाले...

It is about getting to the truth, as messy as that may be, AND generating traffic. He may be proving free speech and debate is a formula for success on a public forum.

lane ranger म्हणाले...

Signs of cognitive dissonance. "I don't have to accept it until it's printed in the NYT." "I don't like the process or the motives of the whistleblower."

Gusty Winds म्हणाले...

Does anyone think Musk isn’t trying to increase Twitter traffic? It’s the whole point. This requires a hypothesis?

All media organizations try to increase viewership, readers, and web traffic in their direction.

Musk is now beating them at their own game, and he just entered the arena. Kick ass. So what?

Best part is, as demonstrated by CBS news...they all need Twitter.

Whatever shred of credibility the NYTs, Wash Post, and MSM have left is being diminished further. I’d imagine their remaining audience are the lifelong liberal loyalists wishing they were trustworthy sources. I wish the same. But...I know they’re not. So...fuck ‘em.

Duke Dan म्हणाले...

Just don’t cross the warp 10 threshold or you end up having salamander babies.

Amadeus 48 म्हणाले...

Elon's Tweets are classic hucksterism. Pretty funny.

wendybar म्हणाले...

"Whatever shred of credibility the NYTs, Wash Post, and MSM have left is being diminished further. I’d imagine their remaining audience are the lifelong liberal loyalists wishing they were trustworthy sources. I wish the same. But...I know they’re not. So...fuck ‘em."

THIS^^^^

Lyle म्हणाले...

So he is like the New York Times.

Temujin म्हणाले...

There is much more to this. The main thing I got out of this is that there was a long drawn out period between 5 pm (when the drop was to take place) and the actual leakage of bits and parts. During which time, I am sure, the White House and/or FBI stepped in to 'speak' with Elon about what he was about to do.

I suspect they came to an 'arrangement' in which he could release some things, but...it would be hard on him if he released all things. Just guessing, though I have not read all of the released bits yet, and more are to come (supposedly).

Still...it's clear with what has come that the Biden campaign team did ask/demand that Twitter remove or stop the NY Post article from being 'amplified' (their word). It changed the election. Of that there is no doubt.

The Bidens, while selling access to Joe for millions, pressured social media giants in this country to censor information that would reflect badly on Joe. And it worked. It altered an election.

And our country, and the world is a mess because of that move. Think of all of the damage done since Joe took office. My God.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Like the leaked Climategate emails, 'conspiracy analysts' could have predicted almost the entire thing, just as they could have written the emails in the Climategate leak, except I think that most people believed that the FBI had warned Twitter away from the laptop, and it turns out that it was only a former Democratic political appointee to the DoJ who worked there who did the deed. Just like it was former Democrat political appointees to the intelligence community who signed that letter to the New York Times, which also contained nothing but baseless suspicion, invidious innuendo, and a desperation that should the facts of Joe Biden's corruption become public knowledge, we were looking at four more years of Trump, and the Ukraine-Russia war would be put on hold again.

Peter म्हणाले...

What you call “churn” he calls “traffic”. And he needs the traffic for the advertising. And he needs the advertising.

lb म्हणाले...

Temujin @7:35. Exactly.

Peter म्हणाले...

Matt Taibbi explains the delay. He says he too would be annoyed!
https://open.substack.com/pub/taibbi/p/note-to-readers-8d4?r=8ascm&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Jaq म्हणाले...

I liked the part where the Democrat says "The first amendment is not absolute" in the context of disclosures embarrassing to his party.

Jaq म्हणाले...
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Jaq म्हणाले...

Apparently the FBI had warned Twitter to expect a "Russia hack" to help Trump, who, and he will burn in Hell for this, opposed their planned war with Russia, and so was "Putin's cock holster."

We also know that the FBI had the laptop for almost a year prior to its public appearance, and so knew that there was a risk that it would come out in the weeks prior to the election. So their warning of impending "hacks" and "disinformation" could very well have been based on their knowledge that the laptop was out there, and that copies might exist.

Of course they also had a year to establish whether the incriminating laptop was real or not, and by the time of the NY Post story, they certainly knew that the laptop was real, and yet they withheld this information from Twitter.

Jaq म्हणाले...

"As it happens, there may be a few more big surprises coming, and those will be here on Substack." - Matt Taibbi's Substack

Lurker21 म्हणाले...

A pity Smell-O-Vision never became a thing.

Someone is selling a cologne called "Elon's Musk."

Reports are it's Elon Musk himself.

Iman म्हणाले...

I’d even read this info with a keen interest if it was presented in the old “BurmaShave” format of signs along the road.

That how much I appreciate the sunlight given this Leftist donkey scat.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

The Dem narrative is that Twitter is unsafe for you and unsafe for your brand.

Christopher म्हणाले...

I read the thread sporadically as it was live-tweeted. In my experience, with any long, growing thread it's common for putside comments to break it up, but it takes just a little random hopping around to restore its integrity. The other option is to wait until the dude is finished when there's less such apparent interference.

CNN provided a tidy package that alternately masks and justifies Twitter's collusion. Are you grateful because it was well-organized, or because it confirmed your priors?

One interesting sideshow is that Taibbi's account does appear to minimize government directives to block distribution of the Biden laptop bombshell. But others have chimed in to say that they have documented direct federal intel admonitions.

Thanks for providing the space and freedom to discuss this.

CStanley म्हणाले...

It’s not like there’s nothing to the story so criticizing Musk for hyping it is off base.

So far it’s kind of a dog that didn’t bark story. No one was actively seeking clarification of whether the claims of hacking and Russian disinformation were valid or not, they were only having internal discussions about whether this would hold up as a pretext for the censorship of the story.

The other side to this is what the FBI was telling them and I wonder if that will come out. Musk won’t have access to show the internal discussions on that side though, and it’s certainly doubtful that that will ever see the light of day.

Temujin म्हणाले...

BTW- for actual reporting, news, and other interesting articles, Substack, and others like it, are in the process of replacing the old journalism model. Who goes to the NY Times for the facts on anything important anymore?

You know who: Politicians. Academics. And your friends who also get their 'TV news' from MSNBC or CNN. They, WaPo and others are all becoming the same thing, spouting the same versions of the same stories, albeit with differing approaches. More often than not, the stories are not The Story, but instead they are The Narrative. And it's funny to watch when all of them are onboard with a certain Narrative who's water they're carrying, and all of us outside of their bubble are watching the real story float right by them.

As such, Substack is booming. NY Times has become a place to go to play Wordle, or read about marriages.

Mark म्हणाले...

It's all just more trolling to generate traffic.

I bet the conspiracy theorists with their tinfoil hats are loving this as its a perfect format for them, little pieces of information that can be cherry picked.

Dave Begley म्हणाले...

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#TwitterFiles - FBI spying on Rudy Giuliani’s cloud in 2020 with a covert surveillance warrant. Had access to his emails from John Paul Mac Isaac and me. FBI had #LaptopFomHell and knew it was real. Looks like pre-censoring a legit story https://nypost.com/2022/11/02/how-the-government-hid-the-truth-behind-hunter-bidens-laptop/

MartyH म्हणाले...

This is akin to a Truth and Reconciliation process to move beyond the old biased Twitter and onto the new vision of Twitter as a free speech platform. Expect more of this type of exposure of the old Twitter as the Twitter files continue to roll out.

Michael K म्हणाले...

This is such an interesting story that even the Democrats will be able to suppress it. If Twitter had not complied with the demand to suppress the laptop story, the world might be a very different place right now. No oil crisis, no war in Ukraine, no coming food crisis. No or mild inflation.

A very different world. And a very different future. The Democrats burned the place down to keep power for the grifters like Brandon.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Blogger Mark said...

It's all just more trolling to generate traffic.

I bet the conspiracy theorists with their tinfoil hats are loving this as its a perfect format for them, little pieces of information that can be cherry picked.


Lefty Mark is unhappy that the truth is coming out. What a surprise !

RoseAnne म्हणाले...

I saw the responses from some major entities (journalistic and political) and all used much the same language to question its veracity.

Why do they never rewrite the thing to promote the same message but not make it look like a "cut and paste"?

Big Mike म्हणाले...

As I commented on the other thread, the most plausible explanation is that Musk — and probably Taibbi, too — realized that the Twitter servers could handle he projected traffic load while the Substack servers probably couldn’t. Time to stop kicking over rocks looking for nefarious motivations and remember that underneath Substack, Blogger, Twitter, and every other technology service there are real computers, real data storage devices, real cables, real switches and routers, and all powered by a Hell of a lot of electrical power to power the hardware and to cool the computer rooms, which requires its own infrastructure. Back in my day the rule of thumb was that 50% of your electrical input went to power the hardware, the rest to cool it below the point where the chips start to fail (84 degrees F back then). Perhaps in the seven years since I retired they’ve gotten it down to a ratio of 55%-45% through clever computer room layouts, but that’s still a lot of hardware to power up and to keep cool enough to operate.

Inga म्हणाले...

Nothingburger. Another one. Same as the Durham investigation and the investigations that the new Republican controlled House will be doing.

More to rile up the conservative wing.

Breezy म्हणाले...

Gonna be awful hard for Meta and Google to carry on censoring and suppressing while Twitter is coming clean. What will they do?

Mark म्हणाले...

Michael K demonstrates perfectly what this was meant to do, troll people with.

It doesn't prove anything nor verify his claims, but it gives ammo to trolls.

Show me on the doll where I claimed the things you are claiming I said, Dr Mike.

wendybar म्हणाले...

Mark said...
It's all just more trolling to generate traffic.

I bet the conspiracy theorists with their tinfoil hats are loving this as its a perfect format for them, little pieces of information that can be cherry picked.

12/3/22, 9:39 AM

Isn't it funny, how all your so called conspiracy theories are turning out to be true?? Stay in your little progressive bubble where you think Government is on your side honey. Your day is coming.

hpudding म्हणाले...

Along with the previous post, this just proves that Musk sees his troubled company, and mass communication in general, as serving no other purpose than to manipulate and castigate in his favor, Others saw internet communication as a way to disseminate truth and understanding, he and his fellow trolls are obsessed with its power to manipulate on his behalf.

dwshelf म्हणाले...

Not sure what the problem is. I read Althouse to experience being churned into Althouse site traffic. If Musk can churn me into spending time on Twitter, fine with me.

wendybar म्हणाले...


jimtreacher.substack.com
@jtLOL
All the journos who lined up two years ago to tell you Hunter Biden's laptop was fake are now lining up to tell you it was okay to censor the story because of the dick pics. Exact same hacks.
12:32 AM · Dec 3, 2022

https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp-313137/2022/12/03/braaaaaaakkkk-parrots-disguised-as-journalists-attack-matt-taibbi-for-reporting-news/

wendybar म्हणाले...

I can't hate the propaganda media any more than I do today. I hope their companies fail, and they all lose their jobs. They can learn to pick crops. Then we can deport the 40 million illegals here that they use for that.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/12/the_sound_of_silence_the_media_almost_completely_ignore_twitter_revelations.html

Inga म्हणाले...

“Twitter revelations”…I apologize for laughing like a hyena.

Readering म्हणाले...

By feeding a selection of internal Twitter documents to a single journalist operating under his undisclosed conditions, Musk seeks to replicate the maximally effective methods of 2020, where a single Murdoch newspaper obtains a hard drive of unknown provenance from Trump campaign aide Giuliani. Initial focus of contents...dick pics.

Drago म्हणाले...

Dumb Lefty Mark: "I bet the conspiracy theorists with their tinfoil hats are loving this as its a perfect format for them, little pieces of information that can be cherry picked."

Confession by projection.

You just described perfectly how the New Soviet Democraticals have run every sham-peachment/sham-"vestigation" for the last 6 years.

Lets start with the easy stuff Dumb Lefty Mark:

1) is the laptop in question really Hunter's? (Y/N)

2) is Hunter's laptop russian dusinformation? (Y/N)

Drago म्हणाले...

hpudding: "...Others saw internet communication as a way to disseminate truth and understanding,..."

LOL x infinity

The New Soviet Democratical censors only want "truth" and "understanding" to abound!

I think this hpudding moron really believes that.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Pretty lame, Puddinhead.

Drago म्हणाले...

Next up for the New Soviet Democraticals: declare the released twitter emails exposing the hoax "russian disinformation" lies used as the basis for censoring the sick and corrupt Biden family practices laid bare (so to speak) via cokehead Hunter's laptop as.....(wait for it)....(wait for it)....More Russian Disinformation!

Better yet, put the Official Deep State Report "proving" that (wink wink) in a dossier format!

The lefties love that dossier format thing. Its like catnip for them.

In a Ron Burgandy sense, the lefties will literally believe anything, and I mean anything, if its in a dossier format.

You could claim Elon Musk paid hookers to pee on a hotel bed that Jack Dorsey had slept in and within seconds the Inga's of the world would be screeching "kompromat! Kompromat!"!

Lem Vibe Bandit म्हणाले...

"Hypothesis: He didn't really have the story he wanted, so he went all out to churn traffic on Twitter."

He took a lemon and made lemonade. I don't think it rises to the level of cynicism.

Maynard म्हणाले...

A typical lefty reaction to the truth finally coming out is that it is a nothing burger. (That is, after the Russian disinformation ploy fails).

Bill Clinton is the maestro in this regard as he cleverly practiced letting the truth come out slowly. That is now central to the DNC media playbook.

Move on. There's nothing to look at here.

Michael K म्हणाले...

a single Murdoch newspaper obtains a hard drive of unknown provenance from Trump campaign aide Giuliani.

You are trying too hard. The FBI had had the laptop for a year. "Unknown provenance" is lefty speak for "I don't like it."

Michael K म्हणाले...

Blogger Mark said...

Michael K demonstrates perfectly what this was meant to do, troll people with.

It doesn't prove anything nor verify his claims, but it gives ammo to trolls.

Show me on the doll where I claimed the things you are claiming I said, Dr Mike.


Lefty Mark does not seem to be able to focus on the topic. You are approaching Inga territory.

Try to concentrate. Or take your meds.

Original Mike म्हणाले...

"Others saw internet communication as a way to disseminate truth and understanding, [Musk] and his fellow trolls are obsessed with its power to manipulate on his behalf."

Puddinhead got the story right, he just got the players switched.

Seriously, how you can write that when this story is all about Old Twitter suppressing news for the electoral benefit of the democrats, which even Old Twitter executives now (conveniently after the election) admit was a mistake?

Jaq म्हणाले...

Further context for readering’s comment. It was not of unknown provenance, the FBI subpoena for the hard drive was published with the story, and internal comms at Twitter show that they knew that it was genuine and not hacked. The NY Post is the nation’s oldest newspaper, BTW, and did its own due diligence, something Twitter did not do. It’s been admitted that the claim it was a hack was baseless, and that they did not follow their own policy.

Still readering believes in a dossier paid for by the Clinton campaign, which claimed it as a “legal expense” BTW, and had no problem with basing a two year investigation of Trump based on it, an investigation which predictably turned up nothing.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Even further context to readering, the FBI had the laptop for a year, as evidenced by the subpoena, and nobody thought to seek a comment, when the subpoena was part of the story. The FBI was silent on what they knew. The FBI is Biden’s goon squad.

Jaq म्हणाले...

Even further context to readering, the FBI had the laptop for a year, as evidenced by the subpoena, and nobody thought to seek a comment, when the subpoena was part of the story. The FBI was silent on what they knew. The FBI is Biden’s goon squad. The owner of the repair shop has said that the FBI agents who collected the evidence said that “people who stay quiet about these things, usually don’t get hurt.”

Readering म्हणाले...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-purported-hunter-biden-laptop-sources

I'm just saying Trump folks did not go about things the best way to get out the word. But as I have also already said, enough of it all came out before the election.

And now, this morning, 45 has the nut job take on it all.

Big Mike म्हणाले...

Hypothesis: He didn't really have the story he wanted, so he went all out to churn traffic on Twitter.

Big Mike (9:59 AM) has demonstrated this hypothesis to be FALSE.

Michael K म्हणाले...

Blogger Inga said...

“Twitter revelations”…I apologize for laughing like a hyena.


No need. We all know about you.

Achilles म्हणाले...

Temujin said...

BTW- for actual reporting, news, and other interesting articles, Substack, and others like it, are in the process of replacing the old journalism model. Who goes to the NY Times for the facts on anything important anymore?

People that want to be lied to.

People like Ann.

wendybar म्हणाले...

"I'm just saying Trump folks did not go about things the best way to get out the word. But as I have also already said, enough of it all came out before the election."

How could they, when we have propaganda media companies that conveniently ignore any story that makes them or their leaders look bad?? They lie....and you and others are dumb enough to believe their lies, and spew them to everybody to show how easily controlled you are.