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४३ टिप्पण्या:
We could move on from Trump if only the media and the left would.
Ever-Trumpers need to wake up to the reality that Trump is toxic. It's not totally fair - but much of his toxicity comes from his own immaturity.... his own ego.
This is where Trump can destroy the Republican Party. I take no joy in being right a few months ago when I reminded people that winning the primary is not winning the general election. There was too much celebration when Trump’s people won primaries and not enough reality about their chances in the general.
DeSantis and Younkin are the future of the party now. Trump cannot win in 2024. One man is not a movement. Trump started the movement and it’s time to turn it over to a younger generation who can expand the movement. His message has become too much about him and not enough about the electorate.
I fear that Trump will continue his quest for revenge at the cost of the country’s future.
Hunter: "Trump is toxic."
That was evident in 2020. Will Trumpers learn this time, or do they want another hit of political fentanyl?
As Tim M said in another thread: "Last night may have saved the Reps from a Trump candidacy in 2024."
But he will try. So what do we do to block the insanity?
We could move on from Trump if only the media and the left would.
Trump is tough!
He can absorb all the hate and the "Nazi! Nazi!" stuff and DeSantis can get things done.
I don't know if it's God's plan, but the media might be destroyed in 2022. Because the fucking media can't call DeSantis a Nazi until they destroy the old Nazi, and he's hanging around.
So while it would be best for Trump to retire gracefully, for Republicans it would probably be best if the media hates on him for a year or two.
"God works in mysterious ways" is not in the Bible, but I kind of think we should add it!
I understand the personal loyalty to Trump. He’s the only politician to stand up to the Hate Whitey, Hate Men ideology.
The war between men and women has gone nuclear. How can the two sides even stand one another to the extent needed to mate and produce children? Men cannot be assured that their baby won’t be summarily executed… legally… and if their kid is allowed to survive, women can alienate and abscond with that kid at will, leaving the father with nothing except the bill.
Only one institution still respects men, that is the Catholic Church and many elements and parishes within it are apostate. It looks to me to be the only institution avenue for men to fight back. Choose your parish wisely.
The one that hurts the most is Fetterman. I don't understand why anyone would vote for a man who accomplished nothing, actually damaged his town, and has a questionable medical condition. The feeling of an absolute disconnect with those who chose him is painful.
Who runs the Republicans against Trump Twitter account? Liz Cheney? Bill Kristol? Charlie Sykes?
I'm going to start a new one today. "Democrats Against Late Term Abortion".
Politics ain’t beanbag, it’s corn hole.
@Althouse, so what do you mean by “Trumpism”? Do you mean economic policies that favor small businesspeople and people working at the lower end of the economic scale, at the expense of people like you and I who are closer to the upper end of the economic ladder? Do you mean energy-friendly policies that lead to energy independence? Do you object to peace in the Middle East?
Or do you short-sighted focus on Trump the person, who offended feminist doctrine by pointing out that many pretty young women throw themselves at rich and famous men (i.e., not just Monica Lewinsky or JFK’s conquests and Wilt Chamberlain’s self-estimated 20,000).
hahaha - Trump didn't make Florida red. DeSantis did.
Florida is a highly populated state, & they counted votes early and properly, too.
Sebastian said...
Hunter: "Trump is toxic."
That was evident in 2020. Will Trumpers learn this time, or do they want another hit of political fentanyl?
Did you Romney supporters learn after 2012?
I could support Lake, or Masters, or one of a dozen other candidates.
I wont support anyone that Mitch McConnell supports. In fact if McConnell is still in the party in 2024 it may not matter who the republicans nominate I probably wont support them.
The republican party sabotaged a lot of these candidates pulling support in the general.
So yeah have fun without us.
@Kate
"The one that hurts the most is Fetterman. I don't understand why anyone would vote for a man who accomplished nothing, actually damaged his town, and has a questionable medical condition. The feeling of an absolute disconnect with those who chose him is painful."
This.
People's Exhibit #43,228 of a declining nation. We're a few elections away from President-elect Camacho at this point.
Achilles says "us" like it's a big number. He's a fucking immature baby saying he's taking all his marbles and going home for the comfort and warmth of mommies skirt. Don't forget your Binky little man.
I suppose so. Trump is too much of an egotist and too inclined to get into petty quarrels, but it's hard to find people in politics who aren't "toxic" in one way or another. Trump was a pretty good president, much better than Bush or Biden, and not worse than Obama or Clinton. Post-Trump, will our politics and government really be less "toxic"?
There's an argument that DeSantis lost New York, by getting so many potential Zeldin voters to move out. I doubt it, but it's possible that Florida is an outlier and what works there may not work well in other states.
And everything the Lincoln Project touched also died.
@Kate
"The one that hurts the most is Fetterman. I don't understand why anyone would vote for a man who accomplished nothing, actually damaged his town, and has a questionable medical condition. The feeling of an absolute disconnect with those who chose him is painful."
My take: Fetterman had to stay in the race once he won the primary. If he resigns after taking office, Shapiro can appoint a replacement. Maybe Conor Lamb, but someone who agrees to toe the party line.
The Macs - McConnell and McCarthy - have gotta go!
New leadership needed now!
So we are going to blame Trump, rather than the insanity of places like Madison, WI? Milwaukee, WI? NYC? Chicago? Philly? Californians fleeing a state they fucked up and heading to AZ?
The liberal population centers will continue take themselves into further decline. Hopefully they don't drag the suburbs and rural areas with them.
Obviously for people who have periods, abortion is EVERYTHING. The referendums in CA and VT allowing abortion up until the moment of birth is sick. They codified infanticide. This is now America. It's got NOTHING to to with Donald Trump. Infanticide has more to do with Beelzebub.
Thank GOD Johnson won in WI, but under Tony Evers Milwaukee will continue its rapid descent into Detroit-ism. Madison doesn't give a shit about Milwaukee.
We'll see what happens with Kari Lake and Masters. AZ is one fucked up mess.
I can support DeSantis. That was awesome. But I'm with Achilles. I have ZERO interest in supporting the McConnell/Romney wing of the GOP. They are as bad as Democrats. I don't see a difference.
Ironic that the theme today is "Trump is irrelevant" and "Trump is toxic", but it's all we're talking about. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.... We will continue to do so.
CNN Exit poll showed:
GOP +13 for age 65 and older
GOP +11 for age 45-64
Dem +2 for age 30-44
Dem +28 for age 18 to 29 (Generation Z, my kids)
Generation Z is setting the table for their own demise and socialist future. I feel bad for my kids. Obviously the liberal indoctrination in Public Schools and American Universities is working quite well.
Of course teachers and professors who indoctrinate these kids HATE Donald Trump and all his supporters. You think they are going to wrap their arms around Ron DeSantis?
Achilles - move to Kentucky and vote McConnell out. Otherwise you sound like a whiny moron.
BTW - you've not answered me - who did you vote for in 2012?
My take: Fetterman had to stay in the race once he won the primary. If he resigns after taking office, Shapiro can appoint a replacement. Maybe Conor Lamb, but someone who agrees to toe the party line
Counter take: Fetterman will serve his full term in office occasionally will filling the airwaves with incomprehensible babble. The mainstream media will accept his utterances with a solemnity worthy of the founding fathers. It will make Biden seem competent.
Yay Trumpism! I can’t wait for Trump to announce he’s running for President again.
I suspect Gusty Winds would like to drop a couple of bombs on Milwaukee and Madison, the twin evil cities of Wisconsin.
Gusty Winds.
DeSantis will be vilified - but he won't turn people off with his immature name-calling and ego-centric rants.
What last night should have taught us is that without Donald Trump and the voters he has energized and mobilized we would be looking at overwhelming Democrat majorities in both the House and Senate to compliment the lying idiot in the White House.
As we approach majority minority status, and women and adult children increasingly vote on emotions stirred by the media, that's where this country is now, like it or not. The Trump Presidency was nothing more than a pause in the leftward drift driven by the media and the academics.
You think Ron DeSantis is the answer? They'll beat him like a rented mule. That tough, angry guy act might fire up the conservative base but it won't wear well outside that group. And there simply aren't enough of us remaining to beat the left and their vote buying schemes consistently.
So go ahead and dump Trump if you need a scapegoat. It's not going to matter in the long run.
tastid212 said...
My take: Fetterman had to stay in the race once he won the primary. If he resigns after taking office, Shapiro can appoint a replacement. Maybe Conor Lamb, but someone who agrees to toe the party line.
Even in his "normal" (pre-stroke) life, Fetterman was not a healthy man. He will probably suffer another stroke and at that point, the Dems will follow their usual formula - appoint the wife (in this case, the "defacto" candidate).
The good news is when LBJ said we'll have those ******** voting for us for 200 years he was right. We're one quarter through.
He didnt say that you say? Who knows, but he never ever shied away from using the word. Often
Dem +28 for age 18 to 29 (Generation Z, my kids)
Generation Z is setting the table for their own demise and socialist future. I feel bad for my kids. Obviously the liberal indoctrination in Public Schools and American Universities is working quite well.
Plus, this book helps explain it, too.
Back in 2008, Mark Bauerlein was a voice crying in the wilderness. As experts greeted the new generation of “Digital Natives” with extravagant hopes for their high-tech future, he pegged them as the “Dumbest Generation.”
Today, their future doesn’t look so bright, and their present is pretty grim. The twenty-somethings who spent their childhoods staring into a screen are lonely and purposeless, unfulfilled at work and at home. Many of them are even suicidal. The Dumbest Generation Grows Up is an urgently needed update on the Millennials, explaining their not-so-quiet desperation and, more important, the threat that their ignorance poses to the rest of us.
'nuff said
Blogger Inga said...
I suspect Gusty Winds would like to drop a couple of bombs on Milwaukee and Madison, the twin evil cities of Wisconsin.
Madison and Milwaukee are taking care of Milwaukee's implosion all by themselves. They don't need anyone's help.
What you don't understand, is Madison doesn't give a shit about Milwaukee's rapid deterioration and rising crime. They are separated by 60 or 70 miles. Madison can't see the hood from their tax and student debt funded Ivory Tower. They've got Teslas to trade in.
However, I would build a wall at 124th street which runs north-south and is a main border between Waukesha and Milwaukee Counties. It would be nice to keep the Darrell Brooks' they let run amuck on their side of the fence. Better than running over our Dancing Grannies. Run over your own.
This morning in Whitefolks Bay, a woke, wealthy, liberal, white community that borders Milwaukee to the north, they had a stolen car flip over doing 90mph on a main thoroughfare trying to get to no chase Milwaukee.
It'll get worse for folks in Whitefish Bay. And they can say "we voted for it"!
Blogger Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
Gusty Winds.
DeSantis will be vilified - but he won't turn people off with his immature name-calling and ego-centric rants.
Look. Trump is not a saint, and DeSantis obviously rocks. So do you.
But if anyone thinks that Generation Z (D +28), abortion lovers, or the woke and corrupt in Madison, WI, Philly, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta etc... are going to warm up to Mr. Anti-Woke...they're kidding themselves.
If Trump leaves the scene, DeSantis instantly becomes the left's next Nazi. In 3-2-1...
After all Trump has done to fight for the working class, give the fake news the middle finger...start no new wars....pass tax cuts...get Roe overturned...now we tell him to get fucked? Even after they committed MAJOR voter fraud in 2020 to install our current senile puppet?
The guy has had his home raided for us, had his business harassed and investigated for us, and taken a beating like a man over all their Russian Collusion lies and bullshit impeachments. He is single handedly standing up to a corrupt CIA and FBI. He rightly told the greenies to shove the Paris accords up their asses, and NATO to start paying their bills. Bottom line is HE IS RIGHT about the 2020 election fraud, and that's the biggest event in our lifetimes. Dude has BALLS.
If DeSantis becomes MAGA I'm in. If he cozies up with Paul Ryan, McConnell, and Romney...I'm out...for good. I'll just drink more beer, smoke cigarettes, drive down to Illinois for some gummy edibles, and watch the chaos.
btw- The GOP needs to get a handle on the abortion issue.
Americans are in the middle. Allowing it to say, 15 weeks, like in Europe, might take that issue off the table. If the GOP cannot agree to get it done - Gen Z is going to screw us over every election.
Just a thought. Correct me if I'm off base.
"GOP +13 for age 65 and older
GOP +11 for age 45-64
Dem +2 for age 30-44
Dem +28 for age 18 to 29 (Generation Z, my kids)"
My kids, too.
I'm old - 60's. I have enough money to live. If this is the future being chosen by those with a long future ahead of them, perhaps it's time to sit back, protect myself, and let things go. Tired of trying to protect the world for the sake of people who don't want it.
I know my head wouldn't hurt so often if I did.
Gusty Winds
Brilliant comment at 9:04. Thank you.
I don't know if y'all noticed this, but I have.
The big divide in American society is not racial.
Everywhere I look I see wonderful African-Americans who are happy to see me. Nice people!
Just smiling at people and being nice to people helps a lot.
I think maybe (maybe?) the Holy Spirit encouraged a couple of black celebrities to wear some White People Matter T-shirts. (And one of them really has paid a price for that).
I think maybe (maybe?) the Holy Spirit encouraged Mel Gibson to make his movie, The Passion of the Christ, and he paid a price for that.
The danger for our society is that we have a whole generation of kids who do not believe in God, and think they do not need God. They are Woke, they are monsters, they are scary as shit. And very, very angry.
Anyway, I think our current divide is not racial. I think it's a big generation gap, like we had in the 1960's (there wasn't much of a racial divide in the 1960's either, there was a lot of peace and brotherhood and harmony and shit).
So in my church, all the African-Americans I see are old people. The people who are going to church and trying to find God are old people.
Young people are lost as shit. They need help. They are angry, and bitter, and haters. They've been indoctrinated that way, to hate the other, to hate Republicans and White Males and shit like that.
Old black people know that's a lie.
Young black people see me and think I'm super-nice white guy, I must be a Democrat.
I tell people I'm a pro-lifer, they figure out I'm not a Democrat.
Young people have no idea they have been indoctrinated, or that they've been lied to. So that's the divide to think about, okay?
Millennials are lost. (Many of them, not all of them, obviously). Go out and save a child, man. And say a prayer for that atheist known as Bill Maher, who is trying his best to destroy the Woke Insanity.
Blogger Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
btw- The GOP needs to get a handle on the abortion issue.
You're right. GOP State Legislatures like in WI should put 15 weeks on Gov Evers desk. It's reasonable. If he vetoes it in favor of infanticide let the Dems in power own infanticide.
Generation Z is in the "Uh-oh better get an abortion" phase of their lives. Ages 18 to 30. If the GOP wants some of that D +28 they have to be reasonable. Generation Z is piss broke, and can't afford housing let alone raising children. Michels was hammered here in WI for saying no abortions even in the case of rape or incest. That was stupid.
Ok, I keep seeing the Gen Z "D +28" - but how many of them voted? Size matters. Gen Z "D +28" may help explain some things, but if the young 'uns only slightly incremented their usually-abysmal turn out then D +28 doesn't explain a lot. It may be important in future days (probably not, the tendency of the young to turn convservative as they age hasn't disappeared), but if turn out didn't skyrocket this go-round then it's just an interesting data point but not particularly helpful.
They're attempting to make Trump into Johnny Iselin. Totally different characters. Trump is closer to, but still vastly different from, Charles Foster Kane. And nowhere near Chauncey Gardner or Jack Ryan as a presidential character. Trump stands alone. Like the Cheese.
Blogger Hunter Biden's tax payer funded Hooker said...
btw- The GOP needs to get a handle on the abortion issue.<
Agreed. Here in Arizona the GOP legislature made Blake and Lake's task harder.
Methodical madness beats scattershot eccentricity. Democrats form a tight, well-disciplined phalanx around some questionable, often dangerous and absurd ideas, but republicans are undisciplined and as likely to attack each other as the other side.
Politics ain’t beanbag, it’s corn hole.
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and the game is to fit/toss one to other
there wasn't much of a racial divide in the 1960's
brain fart!
please ignore!
bobby said...
"GOP +13 for age 65 and older
GOP +11 for age 45-64
Dem +2 for age 30-44
Dem +28 for age 18 to 29 (Generation Z, my kids)"
My kids, too.
I'm old - 60's. I have enough money to live. If this is the future being chosen by those with a long future ahead of them, perhaps it's time to sit back, protect myself, and let things go. Tired of trying to protect the world for the sake of people who don't want it.
I know my head wouldn't hurt so often if I did.
11/9/22, 2:39 PM
THIS^^^
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