From "Gov. Gavin Newsom’s wife breaks down describing Harvey Weinstein’s ‘fish-like’ penis in court" (NY Post).
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"Jennifer Siebel Newsom, the wife of California Gov. Gavin Newsom, sobbed as she described Harvey Weinstein’s 'distorted' and 'fish-like' genitals during her bombshell testimony..."
"...at the disgraced movie producer’s sexual assault trial Monday.
Identified in court as Jane Doe 4, Siebel Newsom broke down in tears recounting how Weinstein allegedly raped her in 2005 at the Peninsula Hotel in Beverly Hills... When asked... to describe Weinstein’s physique, Siebel Newsom said: 'Lots of bruises, markings, yellow and green, lots of stretch marks on his belly, very not physically fit at all. Looked uncircumcised and strange though, kind of fish-like, the penis, something was distorted in the testicles … Lots of skin, lots of skin down there.'... Siebel Newsom, 48, said she agreed to meet Weinstein at his hotel suite to discuss a film project, and because 'he could make or ruin your career.'
Once they were alone in the room, however, Siebel Newsom said, Weinstein changed out of his suit into a robe, then started to 'manipulate' and 'threaten' her, while mentioning several actresses’ names...."
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She was SO upset she e-mailed him 2 years later asking for help handling a sex scandal involving her husband??? https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/jennifer-siebel-newsom-asked-weinstein-for-advice-2-years-after-alleged-rape/
Ah fishsticks!
Did it have teeth and scales? If it did that might be worth a look.
Uncircumcised?
Maybe he changed his name to take advantage of 'Jew privilege' in Hollywood.
Kanye wants to know...
Did the gals call him "muskie dick"?
Did anyone ask her about her husband fucking his best friend's wife?
Or the cocaine-fueled orgies?
Kimberly Guilfoyle could probably shed some light.
If Gavin is never nominated, she could take one for the team and sink him, but she better have 24/7 protection as I'm sure Gavin has Hillary on speed-dial : )
Harvey’s a monster. I feel bad for her.
Most of them knew and did nothing.
The Governor of California is married to someone who was alone with Harvey Weinstein in a hotel room once? I'm shocked.
Sounds similar to Juanita Broaddrick’s story aside from the physical.
why is it? That we ONLY hear about women that said no?
Wouldn't it be far more believable, if some of the women said that they'd said YES! (and were rewarded)?
Hollywood is actually controlled by alien fish people!
They Live (1988) wasn't fiction!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Live
Now, we only need to round up the rest of the invaders: Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, the corpse of Jeffrey Epstein, and those in Epstein's Black Book.
I'll paypal you $10 if you make a "fish dick" tag
If Weinstein had a pretty penis would this have been less traumatic for Ms. Newsome?
What kind of fish? This matters. A blow fish would be scary.
And some small type of minnow or goldfish would be really disappointing to matter how big the movie role is. Yeah that would be gross.
But a dolphin (yes I know it's not a fish) would seem friendly and inviting. It just wants to be your friend.
A shark might seem intimidating, but for some, that's part of the fun. I'd imagine there are plenty of men who think they're packing a killer whale in their jeans.
How did Renee Zellweger describe Harvey's penis? Did she also pick something from the animal kingdom??
Which STD(s) cause that condition?
A Tasselled Wobbedong perhaps?
Free Willy!
I seem to remember one of Althouse’s dopier commenters is a cheerleader for sexual extortion by deformed men.
Did she say 'no' to him???
So she was ok with the casting couch.... until his downfall.
can i in’trest you
in some *Sarcastic Fringehead?
it make you holler!
*Although usually less than 10 inches (25 centimeters) long, sarcastic fringeheads are fearless, aggressive, and extremely territorial. They’ve even been known to charge at divers that get too close to their burrow
get that lady in a lather…
looks like fish…
tastes like chicken…
Burma Shave…
He may be a monster, but isn't body-shaming wrong?
What if you had malformed genitalia or you had suffered some injury or disease? It would be hurtful to read him being described as disgusting because of this problem.
Jennifer knows male genitalia too well.
@Althouse
"What if you had malformed genitalia or you had suffered some injury or disease? It would be hurtful to read him being described as disgusting because of this problem."
I agree. She should've made fun of his private parts privately, preferably over tea and crumpets, much laughter, and in passing while the other ladies joke about that fat girl in Bio 201.
Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum
Holey Mackerel! That's what Harvey had.
Now 25 or so years ago a young Arkansas lady (I've forgotten her name--but her name was dragged through the dirt by James Carville who made some crack trailer trash and a hundred dollar bill) was roundly condemned for claiming that she could describe Billy Jeff Clinton's membrum virile.
And now the wife of the Governor California (but she's a Democrat doncha know) can describe Harvey's little mackerel with no downside to her testimony.
Ann Althouse said...
"He may be a monster, but isn't body-shaming wrong?"
If you don't want your dick talked about, don't whip it out at everything that comes through the door.
Newsom can sure pick 'em.
Lilly, a dog said...
Fish heads fish heads,
Roly poly fish heads,
Fish heads fish heads,
Eat them up yum
Boot to the head.
"She’s made herself a prominent victim in the MeToo movement … otherwise she’d be just another bimbo who slept with Harvey Weinstein to get ahead in Hollywood." Obviously, both are true. It's still a crime and should be.
Now do Jeffrey Epstein.
Ann Althouse said...
He may be a monster, but isn't body-shaming wrong?
What if you had malformed genitalia or you had suffered some injury or disease? It would be hurtful to read him being described as disgusting because of this problem.
Do you think she would have cried on the stand if Harvey looked like Brad Pitt?
This is just an extension of the sexual harassment laws as suppression of low status/unattractive men.
When it gets down to it Weinstein's crime was a little bit being fat and ugly, but mostly it was eventually losing the status that made him attractive to her in the first place.
mccullough said...
Harvey’s a monster. I feel bad for her.
How many women got raped after she did?
As you travel down that list chronologically I feel progressively worse for those women.
Well now. That is entirely more information than I needed to allow into my brain forever.
They didn't call him 'blobfish' behind his back for nothing.
I am less than sympathetic. Jennifer Siebel willingly went to Weinstein’s hotel suite and watched him change out of his suit into a robe and stayed put because she was there to discuss a film project and because 'he could make or ruin your career.'
No one deserves to see Weinsteins fish-like anatomy but Ms. Siebel —now Mrs. Gavin Newsom—had some agency here. I would have run out the door!
Once they were alone in the room, however, Siebel Newsom said, Weinstein changed out of his suit into a robe, then started to 'manipulate' and 'threaten' her, while mentioning several actresses’ names...."
Well, what actresses' names were mentioned!!!
I’ll take “things are not as described” for $500.
He may be a monster, but isn't body-shaming wrong?
No
What if you had malformed genitalia or you had suffered some injury or disease? It would be hurtful to read him being described as disgusting because of this problem.
Well, of course, mine is unusually long and thick. [Waits to see who gets the humor.] Seriously, normal or malformed, circumcised or uncut, he should not be engaging in non-consensual sex. A man should not be telling you this, Althouse.
Big Mike said...Well, of course, mine is unusually long and thick.
Thus...Big Mike. Some things on the Althouse Blog make perfect sense.
'If Weinstein had a pretty penis would this have been less traumatic for Ms. Newsome?'
Sounds as if he'll never grace the cover of 'Wedding Tackle Illustrated.'
A shame...
No one deserves to see Weinsteins fish-like anatomy but Ms. Siebel —now Mrs. Gavin Newsom—had some agency here. I would have run out the door!
Try to imagine this was Melania Trump. The coverage would be slightly different.
The more I read about these occurrences, the more I'd like to see this question posed:
"Ms. Siebel, on a scale of 1-10, how non-consensual was this encounter, with 1 meaning you kicked, screamed and scratched your attacker and 10 being- 'I don't really want to, but I really could use his help'".
Fish and genitalia ought to be women. Maybe that's the insult.
This will help Gavin in the upcoming campaign!
Not reading the trial transcript, apologies.
"Siebel Newsom, 48, said she agreed to meet Weinstein at his hotel suite"
Because, of course, that's the only place to meet.
"then started to 'manipulate'"
As in, touching her sexually?
"and 'threaten' her"
With what, how?
"while mentioning several actresses’ names...."
So this took a while. Did she try to leave?
2005 was the year after she was in "Dinocroc." That would have been a more colorful description.
ichthydickus
She should have made direct comparisons her hubby, getting white women wet for 2024.
Bombshell
I had a college buddy who went Vegan but had a "pescaterian" girlfriend. We all went out to a Thai restaurant and there was a very awkward moment when her fish entree arrived with head attached, mouth agape and eyes peering up.
I suppose the French Laundry wouldn't do that.
We always called it fingering, to distinguish it from feeling up or, for the unsuccessful version, groping. I don't think there was a term for unsuccessful fingering.
What came first, Newsom or Weinstein, Jekyll or Hide, Frankenstein or the monster? Some guys are sensitive, and some women aren't.
What kind of fish?
How did it smell?
Reminds me of the joke about the blind man walking past the fish market...
John Henry
Did you mis-spell "Who" there, n.n.?
Blogger rhhardin said...
We always called it fingering, to distinguish it from feeling up or, for the unsuccessful version, groping. I don't think there was a term for unsuccessful fingering.
Always listen to the experts:
"Ford's economics are the worst thing that's happened to this country since pantyhose ruined finger-fucking."
Lyndon B. Johnson
---why is it? That we ONLY hear about women that said no?
Jennifer Siebel Newsom didn't say No, Gilbar. She got him off. It was part of the deal and she recognized that.
It is disgusting that she then accuses him of a crime 15 years later.
Was all of that part of being a Democrat?
Did his fish-like unit sing out during your casting call?
Boop boop foo, foodly racky sacky
Boop boop foo, foodly racky sacky
Boop boop foo
And it swam and it swam back over your dam,
The one-eyed trouser trout.
......and what about all the bruising? Was there a dominatrix involved??
[Those] seeking bigential anatomy—or, both a penis and a vagina—call themselves 'Salmacians'...
Do Weinstein’s fish-like genitals make him a... Salmoncian?
And at that moment, she knew she should have purchased the Hunt/Fish combo license.
Yes, Kai.
It's all pretty fishy.
I couldn't help myself and "googled" penis fish. Guess what? That's a delicacy in South Korea. "The penis fish is not actually a fish but a particular species of marine spoon worm. The scientific name is Urechis Unicinctus, which is also known as fat innkeeper worm that is primarily found in East Asian countries, like Japan, South Korea, and China."
@rhhardin
"We always called it fingering, to distinguish it from feeling up or, for the unsuccessful version, groping. I don't think there was a term for unsuccessful fingering."
Using your finger while fishing is called 'noodling'. Or in this case, 'nudeling'.
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In the morning, Laughing happy fish heads, In the evening, Floating in the soup,
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One wonders whether any of this sees the light of day if Weinstein had looked like, let's say, Mrs. Newsom's husband? Probably not.
Somehow, all this will end up being a plus for Gavin.
He's a Democrat after all.
The fact that he's dyslexic and took years to learn to read property will earn him his place between Presidents Biden, Harris, and Fetterman
Now I know where the punch line, “outhouse door on a tuna barge” came from.
What came first, Newsom or Weinstein, Jekyll or Hide, Frankenstein or the monster? Some guys are sensitive, and some women aren't.
Did you mis-spell "Who" there, n.n.?
I suppose I could have preceded each item with an indefinite article to capture the modern model of diversity classes (e.g. people of deviance, fetal-baby).
This could almost be the plot to Shape of Water.
Harvey Weinstein was a hideous person both inside and out. That seems obvious. All these starlets coming out years later is pretty much bullshit. They did something which they are deeply ashamed of to get ahead. And now they want to claim it as rape. No, it was whoring themselves out. Sorry, but that is exactly what it was in most cases. Now they want catharsis through the courts. Put the SOB away for life for what he did....but let us not pretend that in most cases the women were just innocent victims.
Although I have no particular reason to doubt that she believes something like this happened to some woman, I don't find her to be particularly credible on her own. It's interesting to consider how much weight to give to no-physical-evidence testimony that is part of a piling-on.
In Cosby's case, he seemed to have done the stuff.
In Weinstein's, it also seems so.
But these accusers in such already-famous-perp cases are not independent of one another - whether it's because of a real pattern of Weinstein (legal or not) aggression or he's innocent of all (legal) crimes.
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